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It's a shame you feel you have to negatively judge me rather than debate intelligently.

Posted By: Liberal on 2006-08-14
In Reply to: To answer your question - huh?

But I agree.  We have definitely reached an impasse.  Have a nice day.


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It's a shame you feel that way.

I don't think it does you or the rest of world any good.


Just my opinion.  I will not be debating with you or posting to you again.


I feel it is a shame really.

The liberal media is too busy trying to blame Bill O'Reilly and people like him who are pro-life.  They have used Tiller's death to portray conservatives as hatemongers.  I think what Tiller did in his profession was disgusting and wrong, but he will have to answer for those decisions he made.  I would never condone someone gunning the man down and I do feel bad for the family.


However, here we have the other story about a young man at a recruiting center who had just finished basic training and was willing to fight for our country and he was gunned down because of another wacko who didn't agree with our involvement with this war.  Yet no news has been made about this.  Why?


One man who had no problem killing babies who could survive outside of the womb and was gunned down was reported all over the media but a young man who joined our military to fight for our country and was gunned down outside of a recruiting center and not a peep is mentioned......what does that say about our country?  How much more bias in the media can you get? 


I feel Obama should have made a statement on the young man gunned down at the military center.  It is only right especially if he is going to make statement about Tiller the baby Killer.  I mean....come on!!!  Show some respect to people who want to fight for our country, Mr. President.


Would much rather intelligently question than blindly follow. NM

LOL! Not bright enough to respond intelligently to a wonderfully written

Shame on those who perpetrated this crime and shame on you....am
....for posting a link. I for one, will not be going to "gawk" at the governor's personal life that has been hijacked by extremists.
Heartless people, that's what YOU are! Shame, shame ! nm
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and I feel like makin *du du duu du du duu* feel like maaa-k-in love to YOU!
ARGH!!


Debate, lets debate
Honey, I dont know if your problem is Alzheimer's or Parkinson's but I have debated all over this board..I have tried and tried again and again to debate with your cohorts..It starts out okay and then your conservative friends start attacking and it continues through the debate to where then there is no longer a debate.  I ask for you to check the archives and you will see this..nothing but personal attacks against me, which then I attacked back..Debate..lets debate..I WOULD LOVE TO DEBATE WITHOUT ATTACKS..Place an issue and lets debate..Who knows..my consciousness might be raised or yours might be..Lets do it,,
You feel someone should be forced to do something they feel is wrong? sm
Sounds like communism to me.
That really isn't for you to judge. sm
This is a chat board.  You people perceive lies in the slightly statement.  You must have a really really low tolerance to differing viewpoints.  I would say, having kept an eye on it, Suzie is probably the only one who has escaped being called a liar, but I remember a post that named her with some others as a liar, so I guess I am even wrong on that one.  Wait...maybe I am a liar!
judge not lest

ye also twitch, snort, flinch and giggle.


 


Who are they to judge?
I won't accept criticism from countries that refuse rights for women, have lax child labor laws, and routinely torture and kill their own people for either religious or political reasons.

As far as I'm concerned, anyone associated with a terroist group has no human rights because they aren't human, IMHO.
Let's not take it on ourselves to judge
Non-Christians are not qualified to judge whether a Christian's faith is genuine, and Christians are strictly prohibited from doing so.
Judge Roberts

Have you even bothered to take the time to notice that EVERY SINGLE POST ON THIS BOARD about Judge Roberts is a POSITIVE POST???


What planet are you from, anyway?  Is your life so pathetic that the only pleasure you get is from stalking people on this board in the bizarre way you do and constantly put them down personally?  Dang.  You need a Happy Meal, dude. 


judge roberts
To the conservatives who just have to frequent our liberal board..I have been told, conservatives, that you attribute posts questioning your beliefs or attacking you as coming from gt..THEY DO NOT COME FROM ME.  I do not go onto your board as it is too disheartening to read the way you would like America to be and your continual attack on liberal sites and liberal news articles..So, get over me, I AM NOT THE ONE POSTING ON YOUR CONSERVATIVE BOARD..

Secondly, to my democratic friends, have any of you watched the John Roberts' confirmation hearings?  I have been watching for two days now..In fact, right now they are in recess, so I thought..let me check out the MTStars political board..MSN news video site on the computer has live hearings and they are fascinating..I have to tell you, so far I kind of like Judge Roberts..My only hesitation is Bush recommended him..


If you judge O by his followers....
'nuff said.
I don't know....but I don't think it is our place to judge....
I knew girls in high school who did not want to ask their parents about birth control, intended to stay celibate, had the same boyfriend through school let hormones override their better judgment and got pregnant. Not their parents' fault. And as you said, the boy could have used a condom, and we don't know that he didn't, because we know the success rate for condoms is not that great. That we are even having this discussion to me is ludicrous...if Chelsea had become pregnant while Bill was in the White House I don't think Democrats would be attacking Bill and Hillary's parenting skills. I certainly would not have.
Way too quick to judge!
I was simply passing on a story, like the OP. I'm not Republican because my dad is. I'm a conservative and if those beliefs happen to go along with the Dem candidate, then that's who I'll vote for. The story was meant to show how people's idea of "spreading the wealth" can sound like a really good idea - everyone haveing an equal share - but when you get down to it, it goes against everything our country was founded on. The American Dream - come sign up to get your welfare check! No thanks!!!
Judge not does not mean go with the crowd
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Just assume and judge all you want. I AM
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Well, that judge is right legally
I mean, really, do we all here check the little box on our tax forms that gives extra money to whatever it is they're asking for? I try to keep up with all changes in the tax law looking for things that I can deduct.

Part of the shenanigans of the big companies, however, is that they can hire alchemist accountants who can turn lead into gold, finding ways to create deductions that is far different from the original intent when the deduction was entered into the tax code.
Are 4 months enough to judge O, especially in these
so difficult times?
It is said that the economy is already in a slight upswing and the unemployment rate went down bit.

I guess we have to give O at least 1 year to be able to judge his decisions and actions.
I'm sorry but for this judge to throw

out the tests for those firerighters who studied hard and earned those promotions and didn't get them merely because they were all white with one hispanic man.  To me...that is racism right there.  They didn't get the promotions because of their skin color.  Had they been a more motley crew of races, they would have gotten those promotions.  It is truly a sad day when hard work and studying doesn't benefit you because your skin color isn't that of a minority. 


I'm all for equal rights between the races and all of these firefighters were given the same studying materials and the same amount of time to study.  How can you take away those promotions from the people who studied hard and scored the highest merely because most of them are white? 


This doesn't present a very good opinion of this judge so far to me.  She also made a comment about how with her experience and her being a latino women, she could make better decisions than a white male.  Racism?  Hello?  If  a white man had said that he could make better decisions than a black man, woman, or latino.....OMG.....the race card would have been thrown out and that would have been the end of his career.  Why is it that minorities are allowed to say racist things and be racist and that is okay, but the moment a white person says something remotely racist.......that is the end of that person's career.  More double standards.


Prejudice: To pre-judge

without knowledge, based upon appearances. 


Can't see how this has anything to do with how I feel about Obama.  He has done and said quite enough for me to base an opinion on my knowledge of his actions.  Find another word to sling around.  Prejudice won't work.  Neither will racism. 


Judge Roberts and Roe vs Wade
I, too, am pro choice and I can remember when I was still in high school, there was no right of termination of pregnancy..It was left up to each state to decide and NY state did not allow a woman to choose.  I remember Congresswoman, Bella Abzug, was one of the strongest voices for women back then..That, I guess, is what got me into politics to the max, cause none of my sisters are political, nor my mother..They vote democrat and sure agree with me on issues but I am the one who marches and protests, etc, LOL.  I think back in about 1973, I was astonished that a woman had no right over her body, no decisions about her body..That seared my brain, I guess.  Then, thankfully the Supreme Court understood a woman has a right to decide about her body..I think if Roe vs Wade was ever overturned, we would have women in the streets, and also some men who have a higher consciousness and understand the implications of overturning Roe vs Wade.  The majority of Americans want to leave the decision alone, so hopefully the Supreme Court will leave it alone..I do not believe in abortion at late stages, only in case of a woman's health, however, in the first four months, I believe a woman should decide and, if it is wrong, the woman will explain it to her maker..far be it for me to judge, ya know?
I never ever judge people by their families. sm
I hope no one ever judges me by mine!  No, I don't think he meant what he said.  I believe they mean he was a deputy for 17 years.  It said 17-year, not year-old.  :) 
your opportunity to judge Clinton's

behavior by voting for/against him is officially over.  Break on through to the new millenium.


 


Gee wilikers....but the judge won't dismiss
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It's called prejudice, as in pre-judge.
except to say it is a real drag.
I don't know the whole situation, so won't judge his decision nm
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Didn't He also say judge not lest ye be judged? nm
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How can you already judge that he is messing things up? nm
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Wow, why don't you post your picture so we can judge you, too?
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Since when are you the judge of what is more stimulating on a LIBERAL board?

I don't find anything you write to be stimulating, intelligent, educational or worthy of debate.  And as far as patting people on the back, that's what you do on the Conservative board.  You bash liberals, ALL liberals, EVERY LIBERAL IN THE WORLD, and then the people with the crudest, rudest insults against liberals are patted on the back and high-fived by the rest of you.


Liberals don't discuss things like Repuglicants do.  We would rather be civil with people and find you incredibly distasteful human beings. They obviously call you neoCONS for a reason.  Your posts are nothing but litter...trash...garbage, and I for one, can't relate to and don't want to communicate with people who do nothing but prove how ignorant, childish, hateful, nasty, untruthful and uncouth they are.  Is this really the image you want to portray of your party?  Because that's what you're doing.


Why can't you just be happy on your own board and stay away from people who have asked you repeatedly to stay away because we're not interested in your rhetoric and your attacks?  Or, like your president, aren't you happy unless you're destroying things? 


Who's to judge credibility? Certainly not you or I on a chat board.
Just seems like a lot of negativism about nothing really.  But whatever.  Not worth worrying about.  In 100 years, who will care.  You waste way too much energy on here.  Get a real hobby.  It will improve your outlook!
Judge spares Lewis' life.sm
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20060620124809990015&ncid=NWS00010000000001
Judge Nixes warrantless surveillance

A brief respite to people who respect the law and want to see warrants utilized.  Of course, All the President's Men in the Supreme Court will probably strike this down, so enjoy lawfulness while it lasts, no matter how brief it may be.


To everyone who claims liberals are on the side of the terrorists:  Note the word warrantless.  Liberals aren't against the use of wiretaps.  They're just against any President ignoring the law and having no oversight regarding his actions.  It doesn't take much time to fill out a boilerplate warrant.  If Bush doesn't want to employ an American to do this, maybe he can outsource this job to another country at a cheaper rate (please note sarcasm here), as is done with the confidential medical reports of Americans.


Judge nixes warrantless surveillance





By SARAH KARUSH, Associated Press Writer 9 minutes ago



A federal judge ruled Thursday that the government's warrantless wiretapping program is unconstitutional and ordered an immediate halt to it.


U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor in Detroit became the first judge to strike down the National Security Agency's program, which she says violates the rights to free speech and privacy.


The American Civil Liberties Union filed the lawsuit on behalf of journalists, scholars and lawyers who say the program has made it difficult for them to do their jobs. They believe many of their overseas contacts are likely targets of the program, which involves secretly taping conversations between people in the U.S. and people in other countries.


The government argued that the program is well within the president's authority, but said proving that would require revealing state secrets.


The ACLU said the state-secrets argument was irrelevant because the Bush administration already had publicly revealed enough information about the program for Taylor to rule.


I don't judge people based on religion.

"Muslim is wrong?" "I don't judge anybody or their beliefs?"
explaining away the conflict in this statement TO YOURSELF before you take it upon yourself to explain it to others.
I have a friend who is an election judge in the next county over...... sm
And he actually had to ask people to either go home and change shirts or turn their shirts inside out so that the political statements (for one side or the other) could not be read. Isn't there something about no political statements or voter influence within 100 feet of the polling place, or is that on a state by state basis?
Quick to judge, aren't you? At least you apologized....
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What's pathetic and "UnAmerican" is being judge and jury
THAT is what is truly pathetic.
It is a d*** shame.
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Shame on you
Shame on you Army Mom for wanting your child to be in harms way over an unnecessary criminal war..Shame on YOU
Shame on you

Do you know *any* of the 9/11 widows?  What would *you* be doing if your loved one had been murdered as theirs were in this manner?  Take the goverment payoff to sit down and shut up?  Or would you stand up to the collosal cover-up of the events of that infamous day and demand answers?


There is only *one* person looking to clean up here - and that would be the shrew bitch who makes a living mining the apparently endless wells of hate of her followers.


She deserves not to be mentioned and certainly never to be given free air time. 


The widows, at the very least, deserve the benefit of the freaking doubt!


 


The shame should go to

you people on both sides who can't even see how ignorant you sound.  On the one hand you call Obama a terrorist because McCain's campaign has accused him of such.  On the other hand you absolve Palin of any wrong doing.  I don't KNOW if Obama associates with terrorists.  I expect he does associate with shady characters of some kind.  I expect Palin is guilty as charged but I don't know this.  Unless you live in Alaska and followed this story BEFORE she became the VP nominee, you don't KNOW either.


The shame goes to you people who can only see 2 colors....blue and red!!!!  Never mind what is behind door #1 or door #2.  It is you people who have elected the dirtbags that are running this country and you're fixin' to do it again.  YOU have helped to bring this great country to it's knees and it isn't even on its' knees yet!!!!


I support LOU DOBBS FOR PRESIDENT.


Yes he did and more shame upon him! n/m
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well then shame on us
for being that way.  Too bad they couldn't fix it to where you couldn't physically see the candidates but could just hear them speak.  If we were blind to their appearance and color, maybe we could make a better judgment call.
It is a shame that all you have to do is
ignored so you can make more hateful jabs. As far as being here in the real world, honey, you don't even have a clue! It is so comical listening to you make a fool of yourself here trying to show us how intelligent and intellectuant you are and what small little peons we are because we do not accept your opinions. Why would someone of your caliber even need the MT world? Can't even be just for the pleasure any more, there is none there now, just work for a living. This poster's opinions are just as valuable as yours. Anyway, you're funny, but you're no more intelligent than anyone else here.
They have no shame

I already know the O worshipper and lovers are going to cut down the article, so I really don't care what they think.  But for those interested who have an open mind and willing to read and listen to everything here is a good article.  All the rest say what you want, I don't care.


I was also just going to cut and past the article here because of course the O worshippers will come back with a lame excuse about who wrote the article, but I'm at a point now that I don't care either.  It's an important article for all those who want to know the truth.


http://www.rense.com/general84/has.htm


 


 


Shame
It's you who has no shame.

Gimme A Break.