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Quick to judge, aren't you? At least you apologized....

Posted By: nm on 2009-02-20
In Reply to: Yes, I see it says that now. - Marmann

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Way too quick to judge!
I was simply passing on a story, like the OP. I'm not Republican because my dad is. I'm a conservative and if those beliefs happen to go along with the Dem candidate, then that's who I'll vote for. The story was meant to show how people's idea of "spreading the wealth" can sound like a really good idea - everyone haveing an equal share - but when you get down to it, it goes against everything our country was founded on. The American Dream - come sign up to get your welfare check! No thanks!!!
Maybe if you had just apologized
Instead of the saying that the deaths mean nothing to you, I would have just accepted it. Where I come from, we apologize and don't lace it with a bunch of other stuff to make it sound like it wasn't a real apology after all. That is a lot more graceful in my opinion.
I know. I overreacted, and apologized. nm
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I know....I was overreacted, and apologized. nm
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Ok, so they jumped all over DePass and he apologized....sm
And David Letterman makes an obscene comment about 14 year old Willow Palin and gets a bye? Plus gets his contract renewed for another 2 years? Does anybody see anything wrong with this picture?
I COPIED THIS FROM A BLOG, AND APOLOGIZED ONCE. TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT..NM

So Christians aren't supposed to political? Or we aren't supposed to let our morality, faith

our conscience guide us politically?


I'm sorry, that is a separation I cannot make.  My faith and religious convictions are part of the whole person that I am.  I vote my conscience.  I want political leaders who reflect my morality.  I also happen to believe there are many Christians out there like me.  There is no "separation" of church and state for me, which by the way was a concept (nowhere specifically mentioned in the constitution) meant to protect the church from the government more so than the government from the church.


There is absolutely nothing wrong with that commercial.  There are condom commercials, "personal" lubricant commercials, and penis and sexual performance enhancing commercials -- why would anyone be offended by a pro-life commercial?  The fact that anyone would be offended is a testament to just how twisted society has become!


Why are you so quick to believe he isn't is the
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I just quick read this but
it seems these were Saddam henchmen not *9/11 perps* as was claimed above unless you all are finally conceding that Iraq had something to do with 9/11.

However, I agree that these people shouldn't just walk free. If they are connected in any way with Saddam and/Al Queda/Hamas or any known terror cell they should never see light of day again be it in the depths of a prison or from their graves.
Just one quick question...
where is the iota of value in this post? And, as it has been explained on numerous occasions, we are allowed to cross-post. Liberals also post on the conservative board. I asked a simple question of a liberal poster and was rewarded first with condescending comments alluding to the superior intellect of the liberal poster, and rewarded second with accusations that I was a cliche (my native american heritage). And after all that....refused to answer my question. I suspect because the posterior was incapable of doing so. Perhaps you can explain to me why many liberal posters post something, and when you ask them a question about it and they cannot, the resort to condescending and hateful comments. Talk about not having one iota of value in a post other than to talk down to someone asking a simple question. Wouldn't the best thing to do be just not answer the post at all? Don't understand the defensiveness. All that tells me is that they are not secure in what they believe and without talking points to refer to are lost as a goose. That is not an accusation...it is an observation.
Just another quick observation...
when Clinton came to OKC after the Murrah bombing, even though he is not anywhere on my list of favorite people, I was happy that he came and represented the office and spoke to we Oklahomans. It was moving and I was very, very happy that he came. What I did NOT do, and what NO conservative I was aware of did, was complain that why did he come there and NOT go to the funerals of those soldiers who were killed and their bodies dragged behind Jeeps in Somalia. Why, you ask? Because the two had absolutely NOTHING to do with each other. And to try to make political hay out of what happened at Virginia Tech is immature, thoughtless, and another hurt to add to those poor folks in VA trying to deal with this. War is awful, hateful, and NOBODY wants it; however, death has always been associated with war. However, going to your class innocently on any April day and having a lunatic come in and shoot 32 of you is FAR different. And if you really cannot see the difference and the emotional effect, not just you but a great many on the left, need to really sit down and examine your values. Seriously.
Quick question for you
How can McCain vote with Bush 90% of the time when Bush does not have a vote in the senate? Also, a lot of the votes in the senate are unanimous so that means that democrats are voting "with Bush" too. Please research these things by looking at actual voting records of folks instead of believing whatever the media says, left or right.
Quick definition..sm


Marxist-Socialist

A philosophy-turned-governmental-ideology, usually mistaken for Stalinist/Leninist-Communist. This philosophy, although greatly misunderstood, is nothing more that the belief that the strong, the capable, and the powerful should support those too weak to support themselves. This philosophy, created by Karl Marx, was meant to be the fundamental building block for a utopian society, but was later taken up by a man named Lenin, who twisted and warped the pure isea of Socialism and turned it into Leninist-Communism. Later adopted by Joseph Stalin, who made the idea of Socialism a cruel cycle of death, hatred, and intolerence.
Quick question
I can't believe that I am going to get involved in this, but I have to stand up for the truth..

1 Peter 3:15 "but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence".

What do you think makes you a Christian, bcuz you were baptized? Never in scripture does it say to be a Chrisitan you have to be baptized. Being baptized is the outward sign that you are a christian. It is all based on believing in Jesus who died on the cross for your sins. John 3:16; John 3:36; John 6:40; John 6:47 the list could go on.

Women Deacons:
God never once said deacons were to be women. It is talked about in 1 Timothy 3:8-13. However, you need to read the scripture in contexts, bcuz this is where a lot of people think when he says "wife" he is saying "deaconess",however, this is not the case. You need to take the words back to the original language to understand their true meaning. Also if you search out 1 corinth 14:34 and 1 Timothy 2:12. If you have a lexacon, I suggest using it, and if not buy one.

For homosexuality:
Sin is sin, all sin is equal to death (Rom. 6:23)unless you have trusted the Father. Once you have trusted the Father then you also have the Holy Spirit housed in you. With the Holy Spirit, you will feel convicted over your sins and ask for forgiveness. This does not mean that you will never sin for all sin. There is none righteous, not even one (Rom. 3:10). However, if you ask for forgiveness it will be granted to you (1 John 1:9).

This does not mean that homosexuality is right. This was never what God intended. (1 Corinth 6:9 and 1 Tim 1:10) Just a few passages.

I do not hate homosexuals, as hate would be a sin in God's eyes. However, we need to love them and show them that God loves them too. If they would trust in God, he would forgive them and help them to turn away from their sin.

Tithing:
Tithing is an old testament law. Once Jesus' blood was shed on the cross that was our payment of sin and no longer holds us under the law of the old testament. However, this is one law that churches like to hold onto. If you practice this law of the old testament, then you know that it is not only 10% of your earnings, but 10% of everyhing in your possession.


Pro choice:
As you stated this is everywhere in the bible. God never wanted abortion. All children are His children. Refer to the Ten Commandments, "Thou shall not commit murder". This is all over in the bible.

As a professing Christian, I hope that you brush up on what scripture teaches us. You are hurting the Christian race by blasphemying Christ; going against His word. (Matt 12:31) We need to keeps God Commandments (John 14:15;). I could go on.

As for things are different today then they were back then, read Hebrews 13:8 "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever".

True Christian's beliefs should not be different. There is only one bible (different translations), but if you studied it and researched it back to its original language, you would know that "religion" does not make us Christians, believing His word does.

I am not trying to bash you, I am merely trying to help you.

I attend a free grace church. If you or anyone wants to learn more you may email me and I will give you the church website. We have free sermons to download and listen to.

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life".
Sad that some Americans always want a quick
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Unbelievable is all I can say, Everyone so quick to...sm
believe and condem. Does not anyone know that what you read on the internet is not gospel? I have not heard a thing on the national news, so I will wait and see.
Why are you so quick to discount this but you
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Quick question.

Did they know Rock Hudson was gay back then?  I didn't realize that was public knowledge back then.  I thought that came out later. 


I still say that teaching children tolerance of others different than they are is one thing.  Teaching acceptance of such a controversial topic is another story.


As for not teaching 5 year olds...what was with the story about the same-sex penguins who raised a baby penguin together?  If that isn't teaching kindergartners about homosexuality...well then I don't know what is.


Tolerance can be taught without teaching acceptance of homosexuality in public schools.  Besides, since homosexuality is much more out there than it was when I was in school, you would think kids would be used to having them in their schools anyway.  I keep hearing about how same sex marriage is more acceptable especially by younger people and yet here you are telling us that homosexuality acceptance should be taught in public schools because it isn't accepted by young people.  So which is it?


That was quick. Sorry I missed (*%*'s MySpace.
nm
how about a quick tubal ligation
dontcha think?
My quick explanations of my comments --
I did not blindly follow Obama. I did not vote for Obama because he is black. Actually, my vote may have been more of a vote against McCain than for Obama.

Next, to the points that I can address quickly - he is now not going to raise taxes on the "rich" because of the current economic condition, but that he is still intending on giving tax breaks to the middle class families.

He also said during the campaign that he is going to bring the troops home, but it has to be in a safe manner. You cannot just say that they are pulling out on a certain day - that would be crazy and extremely dangerous for our soldiers. It has to be arranged. He had a timeline in the beginning - people just jumped on what he said and took things out of context and listen to what words they want to hear, not every word.

I for one will support him as long as he is doing a good job and then I will be the first to stand up and say I should not have voted for him if things go bad. And the whole point of sending them to other countries, we all agreed in the beginning that we need to get Osama Bin Laden, so why not do it now? I think he needs to be gone and I think we need to do whatever it takes to get him. I, however, think that Obama's point of view is the same as mine, we should not be in Iraq wasting our time when that is not where the problem is...

When I say "love him or hate him", I mean that nobody is lukewarm for his policies. It seems as if everyone is either gungho behind him or gungho against him. That has been proven time and time again just on this board, not to mention other places out in public that I have been. The people who are for him are for him and the people that area against him cannot be objective to sit down and listen to his whole speech or his whole idea.
Don't be so quick to bash Bush.... sm

This is near the bottom of the article I posted.  Maybe you just missed it.


"To gain access to the emergency loans, GM and Chrysler must also agree to a wide range of concessions, including limits on executive pay and the elimination of their private corporate jets. "


Everyone put it on Bush's shoulders to do some thing about this and now that he has, still he gets bashed.  He's not my favorite president by far, but I think he should be afforded some kind of recognition for doing something to help the economy.  As far as pay cuts for the UAW, the article says that they will have to bring their wages more in line with those of foreign auto makers, which is still a danged good salary.  Would the UAW rather have a pay check or be completely unemployed?  That is pretty much what it all boils down to.  I wouldn't particular want to take a pay cut either, but in light of the situation and the current economic picture, I think I would thank my lucky stars that I at least would HAVE a jo


Like the old saying goes "You can please all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time."


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Wow, you sure are quick! BTW...love grapes! nm
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Someone help me quick, I think I am turning Republican!!!!.......psm
Okay, lifelong Dem, coming from a family of generations of lifelong Dems, loving my country and always supporting my party......I have been watching C-Span for many, many hours over the past few days....while I believe we have to save our economy (and our people) very quickly, with prudence and accountability, the pork grease that I see dripping off this bill, despite its good points, is making me ill.  Please, will some of the Democratic leaders cut the pork, cut the BULL, get down to the necessary and proven, INSURE AND GUARANTEE accountability in every area of this bill, and put my faith back?????  Wow, this Bill is starting to stink more than my Grandfather's dairy farm on a hot summer day, and for the same reason, lots of bull $h*t.  Help???  I like blue so much better! 
Someone help me quick, I think I am turning Republican!!!!.......psm
Okay, lifelong Dem, coming from a family of generations of lifelong Dems, loving my country and always supporting my party......I have been watching C-Span for many, many hours over the past few days....while I believe we have to save our economy (and our people) very quickly, with prudence and accountability, the pork grease that I see dripping off this bill, despite its good points, is making me ill.  Please, will some of the Democratic leaders cut the pork, cut the BULL, get down to the necessary and proven, INSURE AND GUARANTEE accountability in every area of this bill, and put my faith back?????  Wow, this Bill is starting to stink more than my Grandfather's dairy farm on a hot summer day, and for the same reason, lots of bull $h*t.  Help???  I like blue so much better! 
A quick look at this board shows...
me exactly where they are.
After a quick scan of the board...
...I respectfully and totally disagree.
Quick - can you see this author's logical
Whether someone says "You shouldn't be able to do in your bedroom" or someone says "You should be able to do in your bedroom", it's just opposite sides of the same thing, i.e. someone offering an opinion about your bedroom activities. Whether it's "may" or "may not" doesn't change the fundamental character of the statement.

Got brain?


Quick b4 they melt. She thinks global
nm
quick get out your remote lie detector tester
and tell us all from your isolated, secret location what is true and what is not. 
Here, hold up a mirror, real quick....you just described...sm
how almost every liberal on this board holds their fellow members, you know, the ones so cherishingly called "repugs" and "rabid pubs."


You sound a lot like Ann right then....in reverse.


So predictable.
That really isn't for you to judge. sm
This is a chat board.  You people perceive lies in the slightly statement.  You must have a really really low tolerance to differing viewpoints.  I would say, having kept an eye on it, Suzie is probably the only one who has escaped being called a liar, but I remember a post that named her with some others as a liar, so I guess I am even wrong on that one.  Wait...maybe I am a liar!
judge not lest

ye also twitch, snort, flinch and giggle.


 


Who are they to judge?
I won't accept criticism from countries that refuse rights for women, have lax child labor laws, and routinely torture and kill their own people for either religious or political reasons.

As far as I'm concerned, anyone associated with a terroist group has no human rights because they aren't human, IMHO.
Let's not take it on ourselves to judge
Non-Christians are not qualified to judge whether a Christian's faith is genuine, and Christians are strictly prohibited from doing so.
Quick question about the "sex" marriage thing...
So, if married MEANS you can if you want have children, what if I married a man who was NOT ABLE to have children and I knew this.  Could I still marry him?  Would we be considered "married" in the eyes of others since we could not have children?  Or a woman unable to have children, should she be able to be married?  Just a thought!
Quick question about the "sex" marriage thing...
So, if married MEANS you can if you want have children, what if I married a man who was NOT ABLE to have children and I knew this.  Could I still marry him?  Would we be considered "married" in the eyes of others since we could not have children?  Or a woman unable to have children, should she be able to be married?  Just a thought!
Judge Roberts

Have you even bothered to take the time to notice that EVERY SINGLE POST ON THIS BOARD about Judge Roberts is a POSITIVE POST???


What planet are you from, anyway?  Is your life so pathetic that the only pleasure you get is from stalking people on this board in the bizarre way you do and constantly put them down personally?  Dang.  You need a Happy Meal, dude. 


judge roberts
To the conservatives who just have to frequent our liberal board..I have been told, conservatives, that you attribute posts questioning your beliefs or attacking you as coming from gt..THEY DO NOT COME FROM ME.  I do not go onto your board as it is too disheartening to read the way you would like America to be and your continual attack on liberal sites and liberal news articles..So, get over me, I AM NOT THE ONE POSTING ON YOUR CONSERVATIVE BOARD..

Secondly, to my democratic friends, have any of you watched the John Roberts' confirmation hearings?  I have been watching for two days now..In fact, right now they are in recess, so I thought..let me check out the MTStars political board..MSN news video site on the computer has live hearings and they are fascinating..I have to tell you, so far I kind of like Judge Roberts..My only hesitation is Bush recommended him..


If you judge O by his followers....
'nuff said.
I don't know....but I don't think it is our place to judge....
I knew girls in high school who did not want to ask their parents about birth control, intended to stay celibate, had the same boyfriend through school let hormones override their better judgment and got pregnant. Not their parents' fault. And as you said, the boy could have used a condom, and we don't know that he didn't, because we know the success rate for condoms is not that great. That we are even having this discussion to me is ludicrous...if Chelsea had become pregnant while Bill was in the White House I don't think Democrats would be attacking Bill and Hillary's parenting skills. I certainly would not have.
Judge not does not mean go with the crowd
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Just assume and judge all you want. I AM
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Well, that judge is right legally
I mean, really, do we all here check the little box on our tax forms that gives extra money to whatever it is they're asking for? I try to keep up with all changes in the tax law looking for things that I can deduct.

Part of the shenanigans of the big companies, however, is that they can hire alchemist accountants who can turn lead into gold, finding ways to create deductions that is far different from the original intent when the deduction was entered into the tax code.
Are 4 months enough to judge O, especially in these
so difficult times?
It is said that the economy is already in a slight upswing and the unemployment rate went down bit.

I guess we have to give O at least 1 year to be able to judge his decisions and actions.
I'm sorry but for this judge to throw

out the tests for those firerighters who studied hard and earned those promotions and didn't get them merely because they were all white with one hispanic man.  To me...that is racism right there.  They didn't get the promotions because of their skin color.  Had they been a more motley crew of races, they would have gotten those promotions.  It is truly a sad day when hard work and studying doesn't benefit you because your skin color isn't that of a minority. 


I'm all for equal rights between the races and all of these firefighters were given the same studying materials and the same amount of time to study.  How can you take away those promotions from the people who studied hard and scored the highest merely because most of them are white? 


This doesn't present a very good opinion of this judge so far to me.  She also made a comment about how with her experience and her being a latino women, she could make better decisions than a white male.  Racism?  Hello?  If  a white man had said that he could make better decisions than a black man, woman, or latino.....OMG.....the race card would have been thrown out and that would have been the end of his career.  Why is it that minorities are allowed to say racist things and be racist and that is okay, but the moment a white person says something remotely racist.......that is the end of that person's career.  More double standards.


Prejudice: To pre-judge

without knowledge, based upon appearances. 


Can't see how this has anything to do with how I feel about Obama.  He has done and said quite enough for me to base an opinion on my knowledge of his actions.  Find another word to sling around.  Prejudice won't work.  Neither will racism. 


Quick! Someone call the pound. AG's pit bull broke loose from

We can't be quick enough. You've seen how they're passing enormous bills -
- that they don't even read within a matter of hours. First the stimulus, then the tax bill on executive bonuses, etc.

Meanwhile, it's taken them over six months to investigate some very straightforward charges against Charlie Rangel.

CORRUPT!
Judge Roberts and Roe vs Wade
I, too, am pro choice and I can remember when I was still in high school, there was no right of termination of pregnancy..It was left up to each state to decide and NY state did not allow a woman to choose.  I remember Congresswoman, Bella Abzug, was one of the strongest voices for women back then..That, I guess, is what got me into politics to the max, cause none of my sisters are political, nor my mother..They vote democrat and sure agree with me on issues but I am the one who marches and protests, etc, LOL.  I think back in about 1973, I was astonished that a woman had no right over her body, no decisions about her body..That seared my brain, I guess.  Then, thankfully the Supreme Court understood a woman has a right to decide about her body..I think if Roe vs Wade was ever overturned, we would have women in the streets, and also some men who have a higher consciousness and understand the implications of overturning Roe vs Wade.  The majority of Americans want to leave the decision alone, so hopefully the Supreme Court will leave it alone..I do not believe in abortion at late stages, only in case of a woman's health, however, in the first four months, I believe a woman should decide and, if it is wrong, the woman will explain it to her maker..far be it for me to judge, ya know?
I never ever judge people by their families. sm
I hope no one ever judges me by mine!  No, I don't think he meant what he said.  I believe they mean he was a deputy for 17 years.  It said 17-year, not year-old.  :)