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LOL. Yeah, and they claim to be fair and balanced. NM

Posted By: PK on 2006-01-15
In Reply to: Fox News is pro-Bush, pro-war in Iraq. sm - Democrat




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Yeah. That fair and balanced claim
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I am a Fox fan, because I believe they are fair and they are balanced...
and I think they really did the right thing in this case. I hope nobody airs it. It will get ugly enough without that kind of thing floating around.
Yes fair and balanced. sm

I disagree - it is well known that they are extremely right-slanted.  Fair and balanced.  What a joke.  Why do you think people in the know refer to them as Faux or Fixed news - just a coincidence? 


Chris Wallace's vicious sucker-punch attack on Bill Clinton (wherin Wallace got his rear end handed to him on a platter). 


Fair and balanced....LOL (sm)
That must be why they tried to pass off that GOP press release like it was their own....complete with the same typos...
Truly Fair And Balanced
Something here for everyone.
Yep - looks fair and balanced - NOT

Definitely more fair and balanced than the mainstream media...
surely you can admit that??
fair and balanced . . . fair and

balanced . . . we're looking out for YOU . . . we're looking out for the FOLKs . . . fair and balanced . . .


 


Fair & balanced - they give both sides equal time
They let both sides speak. They have equal guests meaning 2 pubs & 2 crats, or 1 pub and 1 crat. Unlike the other liberal stations who have 5 crats and 1 pub.

They tell the news like it is. There is more to Fox News than O'Reilly and Hannity. I'm watching Shepard Smith and others who are reporting news stories. These are the same news stories I see on other channels. They are fair because they give a chance for the opposing side to explain themselves and they are balanced because they have equal number of people. What liberals don't like is that the conservatives have anything to say at all. The liberals want to control the country (getting one heck of a start too), which would be an economic disaster to the country (thank you Pelosi with your pet pig projects you keep hiding in the stimulus and Reid for slipping in a pig project that does nothing for the rest of the country). The liberals are trying to shut down anyone with opposing viewpoints than theirs, and they are having their lawyers re-write the laws and change to consitution. - Not good for America. The only thing this stimulus plan is good for is to get people re-elected into their position. Congress does not give a hoot about America....

Pelosi: "Hurry fellas lets vote, I'm off to Rome". Hey there Pelosi, have a good trip, while we all wait for our pink slips and food stamps. Have yourself a great time at our expense.
Yeah! Could I rob and bank and claim to be
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Yeah, kinda laying claim to maverickism
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Fair enough....notice especially the word FAIR. nm
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and balanced.......sm
as a matter of fact, he is terribly unbalanced or imbalanced...he wanted to blow up the Coit Towers in San Francisco last month.........or in November.  I hate him.
FOX makes no attempt to be balanced, they just SAY that
It's so obvious, my goodness.

whats fair is fair
Truth is, what is good for one is good for the other.  If Palin puts herself out there, she is a target.  But then so is Obama.  The problem is that when you say anything about O people go crazy.  When someone says something about Palin, its just true. 
Mainstream media are Bush apologists, hardly balanced.sm
We get Bush propaganda 24/7. They say the same thing over and over and over again until people believe it. At least Russians realized the stories Tass told them were stupid and censored. Here, if the government and news says its so, it must be gospel even if the stories can't possibly be true. They have you convinced it is patriotic to be a fascist and loyal to the state instead of to your fellow Americans. If there really is a liberal media out there, I sure wish they would speak up.
Excuse me, but during Clinton administration, we had a balanced budget for the first time in ......s
American history, plus a surplus. I am not saying that everything that Bill Clinton did was good, and keep in mind that you were living in one of the most expensive areas of the country (I used to be a Californian, San Francisco is outrageous), for most of us, there was relative prosperity and peace, even though the Terrorists were were already threatening, but that also went back to Daddy Bush's time. How anyone can think that things are better now, I can't imagine! I am happy for you if you feel you personally are better off,that is great, but area you even seeing the hundreds of thousands of Americans who are filing for unemployment, many for the first time in their lives? Every day more lay-offs and closings? Banking deregulation under the Republican adminstration killed this country in so many ways, not to mention trillions for a war where.....we accomplished what? Why can't the Iraqi people fight for their own independence and freedom, as we did, and as the French did? We got rid of Saddam, and yes he was evil, but Osams is still on the loose. Afghanistan I could see, to get that demon, but going into Iraq? That all came down to oil interestes, IMHO, and Halliburton made a bundle. IMHO
Great and balanced post, so very true, this crisis did not develop.....sm
overnight, and certainly will not be fixed in a short amount of time. And we are All going to have to work together and forget party lines, and forget about the blame, work on a long-term cure and get provisions in government so that this type of unobstructed GREED and thievery CANNOT happen again! Free enterprise yes, runaway deception, elitiism, and legalized loan-sharking and theft, no!!!! Thank you for posting, Z!
Really good, balanced, historical report, SO GLAD you posted!! Something for everyone to learn in t
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've said before that you're leaving, but you and your goons can't sta

I don't claim to no everything about him.

I have never claimed that.  Did I vote for him....no.  Have I given him a chance?  What chance is there to give him?  Look at what he has done in this short time.  I don't want to wait another term in office before I see the huge mistakes that are happening now.  And please correct me if I am wrong but I do recall many of you putting Bush down for every little thing that he ever did.  I didn't vote for Bush either and I do believe he made some huge mistakes as well.  You people have no problem cutting people down and not giving them a chance unless we are talking about Obama and then all of a sudden we are all horrible for opposing government spending MORE of our money.  That makes us instantly prejudice.


You ridicule Bush for the war in Iraq and Obama said he would pull our troops out ASAP.  We are still there and Obama has pushed back the time line to pull them out.  Now we are in Afgan fighting the Taliban....which are the same terrorist freaks we ran out of Iraq.  Gitmo is still open with no plan of where to put these terrorists.  The usual rules in bankrupcty were changed in Chrysler's dealings so that the unions came out top dog....which is not supposed to happen like that.  Obama has spent more money than Bush ever did and he wants to spend more.  He promised no taxes of any kind to 95% of Americans and yet he wants to institute cap and trade which will tax everyone.  The jobs that he claims will be created with the spendulous package are not sustainable jobs.  Only 1 out of 10 green jobs are sustainable long term.  He is capping what CEOs can make.  He has done nothing but apologize for the US wherever he goes and yet he fails to comment on all the good things that we have done for other countries or how much we gave relief to people after natural disasters.  A man who gives abortion rights but takes away the rights of doctors and hospitals to deny performing a procedure they don't believe in when those patients could easily go elsewhere for that particular procedure.  Our government is getting bigger and taking over too much.  What right does our government have to cap pay for anyone?  What right does our goverment have to okay bonuses for AIG and then turn around and demand the bonuses be taken away.  I don't agree that they should get bonuses but congress approved it in the first place.  Did you sleep through all of this?  They are talking about taxing health care benefits to help pay for universal health care when Obama ridiculed McCain during the campaign stating how ridiculous it is for McCain to want to tax someone's benefits.....hello? 


ARE YOU LISTENING?  How much more time should I give him because I can say that he sucks?


You did not claim to have a right to

smoke anywhere but you did mention nonsmokers not being content with banning you from smoking in public places and this is a constant argument I had with my dad for many years.  A lot of smokers are very inconsiderate.  More often than not you see them smoking at ball parks that have no smoking signs just because they think it is their right to smoke no matter how many children are around them at the time.  I've been in my car at a stoplight and my car filled with a smell of smoke and I looked over to see the person in the car next to me smoking.  Smokers just do not realize how far their smoke carries and how really harmful it is to nonsmokers.  Parents who continually take their kids to the doctors for ear infections or respiratory problems and yet continue to smoke around them.  My dad used to smoke in the car with all three of us kids in the back but he thought we would be fine because the window was cracked.  All that did was blow unwanted ashes back towards us.  Amazingly none of us three kids smoke.  We all vowed never to pick up the habit and none of us married a smoker either.


I wasn't trying to be rude.....but smoking is a very sore subject with me.  Not only did I lose one grandpa to lung cancer and another grandpa to emphysema but I lost my dad 2 years ago to emphysema and I just absolutely HATE cigarettes.  To think of the years those stupid things robbed me of my 2 grandpas and my dad.....I just loathe cigarettes.


uranium claim

This morning I was thinking this Rove thing over and the main issue is the deception by this administration over the wanting to buy uranium claim.  When Wilson went to check it out and reported back that the claim was incorrect, it still was included in the State of the Union address, to scare the American people into war.  That is the main issue, the lies for going to war. 


This is getting better every minute, MT. You claim to know who's AGAINST you when you can't

even figure out who's WITH you, as evidenced by the little hissy fit above between you and another CON!!!


Please keep posting.  You're getting whackier with each post and revealing yourself for the nut case you truly are!!!


Plus, I'm intrigued by all the different voices in your head who surface at different times.  I guess tonight TM is doing the talking, and TM seems to be even more rude and angry and hateful than you usually are.


Why so angry, MT?  Roberts was confirmed today.  Why aren't you happy?  Or do you just have a terminal case of chronic bitterness, no matter what? Have you ever been nice to ANYONE?


PLEASE keep posting.  You're quite entertaining, even if in a pathetic sort of way.


One way to claim innocence
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_22/b3986068.htm
Every bit as substantiated as your claim that
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and would you be 1 of those people that claim the
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when you claim you are so smart
it gives quite the opposite impression. When you brought up your intelligence, claiming to have an abundance, you opened it up for discussion, and my fellow MT, i take issue with you lording it over me and others.
socialists won't claim him -
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28645
turned down claim
My husband went through that too, what you need to get is an attorney who only gets paid, if he gets disability.  We did and finally thank God, we finally got it and boy did we ever need it.  You also get a retroactive amount from the first time you applied, so there was some money involved and now every month it goes into his account by direct deposit and each year it goes up a little more.
Just think about it, his claim to fame sm
is that he did all this damage in just a little over two months! What a guy! NOT!!!!!!!!!!
Especially the ones who claim they can read...

...your mind, claim to know how well you "scan," etc.  They're the scariest of all. 


Have fun, kids.  I need another break from the board for a while.


I wonder how Gourd Painter is doing.  Looks like she was chased away by the bullies.  Too bad.  I enjoyed her perspectives. 


yeah, yeah, yeah.....what he failed to mention...
is that the Dems are responsible for the mortgage meltdown which is responsible for the wall street meltdown. Chris Dodd, Barney Frank...totally to blame. Blocked every attemmpt by Bush Admin and yes, McCain, to regulate fannie/freddie. Dems certainly have selective memories...convenient bouts of amnesia. lol.
Please provide substantiation for your claim.

After all, you are not GW who can manipulate the truth as he pleases.  But anyway, please provide the "burn in hell for eternity" quote that seems to appear over and over.  I notice that this "quote" also changes slightly each time it is "quoted."


Saying it don't make it so. Back up your claim
Put up or shut up.
Fact check on Sam's claim that

For those who can read and decide for themselves.  http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_bill_clinton_pass_up_a_chance_1.html


well richard morris would claim

that made her well rounded!!!


 


Reply to pub claim that O's accomplishments

When a senator sponsor a bill, he originates the concept, surveys the landscape for support or lack thereof, identifies targets for persuasion, and works for bipartisan consensus.  This would involve extensive research on the content of the bill, assessment of benefits versus cost, knowledge of past voting records of constituents and fashioning persuasive arguments using pros and cons, according to who his individual target is and where he or she is coming from.  He determines constitutionality, legality and any possible conflict of interests.  He authors the bill.  He introduces the bill, debates the bill in the chambers, takes and answers criticism, compromises, rewrites and so forth until passage is achieved.  He then turns around and goes through much the same process to promote the bill in the house.  Then he holds his breath and hopes the president from his opposition party does not wipe out all his hard work with the stroke of a veto pen.  When he cosponsors a bill, he does much the same thing with a partner or partners. 


 


The accomplishments I listed under the state experience section actually were Obama's initiatives.  The US senate list does not just reflect legislation.  It also demonstrates varied committee membership, which reflects a completely different type of experience, much along the lines of study groups and research focused on strategy building of national and internation consequence.   


 


Two final observations.  Every single item listed under O's experience indicates the issues he takes most seriously and aligns consistently with the platform he now proposes on a national level in the presidential campaign.  Thus, this addresses the trust issue so often raised by his detractors.  O obviously has been a quick study, or he would not have been able to successfully seize the nomination of his party. 


 


I do not understand how SP's so-called executive experiences trumps this record.  In fact, my question would be where then DID she get her consensus-building experience from if she was so totally in charge of people she expected to simply fall in line.  Lastly, I am still wondering exactly how SP's record is comparable in this regard...or in words of one syllable...how does she stack up?


Apparently NOT. Your claim. Your citation.
no credibility. Got it? Just wondering what other verifiable examples you can come up with to support you claim of "Christian discrimination."
The math is based on Sam's claim
If Sam is talking 80% approval rating in Alaska, that would imply that she is talking about people who actually are familiar with her policies, programs, credibility, how she conducts herself and soforth...in other words, approval rating among those who actually know her/voted for her. That is what a governor's approval rating is.

The math shows us how much of an overall approval rating of these same factors she has nationwide. SP was only in the governor's office for 20 months. She is still an unknown quantity here and will remain so. The only people who can rate her job performance are the one from her state, since she is not known in the lower 48. The math merely points out exactly what that means within the context of a national approval rating of job performance, since the rest of the 49 cannot possibly be included in that figure. Thus on a national level, that 0.182% means next to nothing.
Al Qaeda did claim responsibility for 9-11 sm
and I believe they were. However, AL Qaeda was not in Iraq until we invaded. Rather, they were in the mountains of Afganistan and Pakistan. Invasion of Iraq gave them a venue to distract from where Islama Bin Ladin was and keep him safe.

Those who claim to have 'come to Jesus' as
Or else brainwashed.
Or both.
That claim is SO old. Anyone playing that old record
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Still looking for legitimate source on the OP claim.
No comment on the inconsistency between NM, Saks and the hypocritical Joe the Plumber message?
Care to go toe-to-toe on that bogus claim?
and watch the old farts bury you in the sand, along with your heads, with their hands tied behind their backs. Smut and smears don't qualify as ligitimate debate. It has to be a current campaign issue....you do remember what they look like, right?
Oh, right! You guys are the hypocrites if you claim
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I agree with that - but you can't claim illegalities yet - nm
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Obama denies this claim.
Looking at his credibility and then looking at the credibility of those that continue to invent stories to smear him out of rabid hatred and rage, I'll believe Barack Obama -- every time.  No contest. 
If we claim to be a nation of laws, then
we need to BE a nation of laws. JTBB has said it all and said it well.
You want to claim bias? Might want to rethink that.
Pictures and videos can dispel those myths.

The first 3 links are a few more articles on civilian casualties. You will notice they do not come from Al-Jazeera. Below that, THE LAST 9 LINKS ARE VIDEO accounts from a variety of sources. WARNING. These videos are extremely graphic and quite disturbing. If you are faint at heart, have just eaten or if there are children in the room, DO NOT VIEW THESE ACCOUNTS. However, if you are interested in this an unsanitized report of this conflict as seen by everybody else outside the US, take a deep breath and take a look at our tax dollars at work.

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,3922951,00.html
Details Israeli ground assault road kill, all in a day's work, some including entire families.
1) 13 in the Assamouni family including mom, dad and 8 children ages 4-15.
2) Abu Ashais family, mom, dad and 5 children.
3) 29 civilians on the Gaza City Strip, 17 of which were children from 3 families.
4) 4 civilians in Beit Hanoun.
5) East Gaza City, a mom and her 4 children.
http://www.countercurrents.org/habeeb050109.htm
1) 5 civilians at a mosque in the northern Gaza Strip
2) 17 members of the AL Atatra family in Beit Lahiya.
3) 3 paramedics and ambulance driver in Shikh Ejlin.
This article goes on to document 55 civilian fatalities in various places.
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/day-11-israeli-war-gaza-620-dead-3000-injured
Day 11 of Israeli war on Gaza: 620 dead, 3000 injured. This is what a local news story documenting the civilian deaths looks like.

http://vodpod.com/watch/1268366-more-children-killed-as-war-on-gaza-continues-05-jan-08
More Children Among Gaza Dead
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/06/gaza-israel-death-un
Dozens dead after Israel bombs UN school in Gaza. Short clips of UN school bombing.
http://vodpod.com/watch/1268366-more-children-killed-as-war-on-gaza-continues-05-jan-08
Norweigian MD says he has only treated ONE Hamas military among the other hundreds of injured and dead.
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/the-holocaust-of-gaza-part-one-/3978540845/?icid=VIDURVNWS02
The Holocaust of Gaza (Part One)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHjJAS9L8iE
Gaza Holocaust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=028fbRTpxaY
Gaza Holocaust, same name, different clip
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/israel-attacks-on-gaza-dec-27-2008-first-images-cnn-report/2305843012760637851/?icid=VIDURVNWS01
Israel Attacks First Images
http://uk.truveo.com/Raw-Israel-steps-up-its-strikes-on-Gaza/id/1194450857
One Man's Grief
http://palestinevideo.blogspot.com/2009/01/latest-from-gaza-1609-from-democracy.html
Parts 1 and 2. In depth 21-mnute investigative report by Amy Goodman.

So, you claim she is a racist? Same old bull.
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