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McCain wins Debate! (Even before doing it) sm

Posted By: Ole' Miss on 2008-09-26
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This internet ad was posted this a.m. on The Washington Post, even before McCain said he was going to go through with debate.  He really suspended that campaign.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/images/26Sep_Friday_WSJ.JPG


 




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If McCain wins?

All I hear from the McCain supporters on this site is their bashing of the Obama/Biden ticket.  I have a question for all the McCain supporters.  My question is:  "What is your candidate, John McCain, going to do for this country that will benefit Americans?"  Let's see how many of you can leave Obama's name out of your answer too.  Just tell me what John McCain has proposed to help Americans get out of the recession we are facing.


That's why I'm hoping McCain wins. Then - sm
nobody in America will ever ridicule anybody ever again.
If the McCain-Palin ticket wins...sm
the actuarial tables say McCain has 1 in 5 chance of dying in office and Palin becoming president.  Oh, no, Mr. Bill ! !
If McCain wins, as I hope and pray he will....sm
will you and your party put away the hatred and viciousness and try to come together as a nation?


I know I will if it is Obama.


But I expect no less if it is the other way around.
If McCain wins, I'll be moving to Canada...Montreal

Tina Fey said if McCain wins she is leaving the earth. Glad she won't have to. nm
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McCain to attend debate.
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I agree - it WAS McCain's best debate. And if that's
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McCain is afraid to debate Obama.
First, McCain tries to lower peoples' expectations of his debating abilities as compared to Obama's (see link). Now, he finds a way to weasel out of the debate while trying to convince people that it is for a noble reason. Who does he think he is kidding?

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/23/mccain-lowers-expectations/
Debate, lets debate
Honey, I dont know if your problem is Alzheimer's or Parkinson's but I have debated all over this board..I have tried and tried again and again to debate with your cohorts..It starts out okay and then your conservative friends start attacking and it continues through the debate to where then there is no longer a debate.  I ask for you to check the archives and you will see this..nothing but personal attacks against me, which then I attacked back..Debate..lets debate..I WOULD LOVE TO DEBATE WITHOUT ATTACKS..Place an issue and lets debate..Who knows..my consciousness might be raised or yours might be..Lets do it,,
So what happens to you if O wins? Are your
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if he wins, i don't think he will be
for long... and then the republicans will be blamed for that too....
If Obama wins, it has nothing to do with God.
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I hate to say it but I think if Hillary wins the nom
*sigh*
Well, if your team wins, at least we'll all be

When Barack wins, you guys are never going to let up are you........nm
ridiculousness
Can't wait until Obama wins so I can be
hahahaha
Not only Richardson. If he wins, that is when we will see it I guess.
Colo. Democrat govenor just lowers Obama's tax plan to $120 K




Well, here we go again. We have gone from 250, to 200 to 150--today Colorado democrat governor Ritter--stated that Obama's tax plan--meaning no one who makes over 120,000 K will get a tax hike.

I know this didn't come out of Obama's or Biden's mouth--but it is worrisome, as Govenor Ritter has been in constant contact with Barack Obama, as CO is considered a swing state & of course the DNC convention was in Denver, CO.

Democrat Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico--just stated the $120K figure too.




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Obama does it again!!! Wins 3 states tonight!!!
is anybody else as excited about this as much as I am!  I hope he gets the nom
yes the only reason she wins these dinky little states

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Sam will be silenced in November when Obama wins!
Rest assured, I will not waste one more moment discussing issues that require thoughtfulness and intelligence with women who have none, such as you and your fearless leader sam! I will sit back quietly and wait for you both to be silenced in November when Obama and Biden are elected President and Vice President of these great United States. In the meantime...talk amongst yourselves.
Question....if Obama wins the election...
and it is determined that Iran is on the brink of a nuclear weapon, and Obama decides to go to war before they use it (pre-emptive war)...and he has said he would never take the military option off the table...if he and Congress decided to invade Iran...would you guys support that?
Gonna go to Alaska if McPain wins and
let a polar bear have me as his last meal.....
Your post wins the BEST COMEBACK award!
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Palin wins hands down 73% to Biden 25%

Way to go Gov. Palin!  Bright, confident, knowlegeable, cheerful, intelligent, aware of what's gone wrong with our economy and how to fix it, knows foreign politics, knows the voting records of Obama, Biden & McCain.  Knows how to help the every day americans get ahead in life.  Smart on education, highly intelligent about being energy independent.  Knows that America needs to take back Washington and make it work for us and knows how to get it done.  Already has the experience of being governor.  Anyone notice that whenever she said that Obama/Biden would raise your taxes Biden never said disagreed.  Gov. Palin connects with everyone and that will come out.  Biden made at least 6 mistatements tonight and I think Americans will see that Obama/Biden will say anything thinking they'll get people's votes.  I'm waiting for them to come out with Clinton's old line "I feel your pain".


Gov. Sarah Palin is going to be very good as Vice President Sarah Palin.  I can't wait!   


If Obama wins we cal all learn Farsi -
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I am praying that Obama wins this election
I do NOT want a president/VP that condones racism, hate filled rhetoric, anti-american views.  Palin supports the Alaska Independence Group and they are anti-government and want a separate america and now Palin and McCain are basically encouraging the same thing.  Obama brings unity and diversity and I am glad that he is running.  What a breath of fresh air.  I dont care about what anyone here has to say about the rumors of this and that concerning Obama.  They have all been started and expounded upon by McCain/Palin campaign and they are lies.  And WHY is it okay to give the wealthy the breaks in this world and that is an acceptable republican concept but as soon as someone says they are going to look out for the little guy and SPREAD THE WEALTH of the ecomony evenly, they are suddenly a socialist?   Did McCain NOT approve the bailout plan that is buying STOCK into our banking system?  Did McCain NOT approve the plan for the goverment to own half of America's mortgages?  Dont talk to me about socialism McCain until you look at yourself.  And by the way, people try to associate Acorn with Obama and voter registration fraud.  What about the GOP intimidating people to change their party and telling them they HAVE to change their party in order to vote for a sexual predator law?????  That is voter fraud and McCain is the GOP. 
R. Murdock on the economy if Obama wins

This would not only affect our economy, but also the economy of other countries.  I learned something new.


http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=081101041202.azy6f08j&show_article=1


Yeah, and if he wins, I will be pulling my 401K

I don't want to pay any more taxes on my 401K than I have to. O wants to tax it. We already pay taxes on it when we take distribution, so that's double taxation and I want no part of it.  I don't have much but I sure want to keep what I have.


A lot can happen in the next 2 days and hopefully, things will go from blue to red where needed.


Polls mean nothing. Wait till election day, to see who wins.

Biden is the biggest fool out there this campaign, wins hands down.nm

Obama/Biden ticket wins, more dems elected to congress...sm
and something will FINALLY get done.
meaning=history repeats...the PRESIDENTIAL OFFICE will be tested...no matter which one wins...nm
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Why are you McCain people so desperate? You are just like McCain. No plan. Just criticism of the
other candidate.  I guess you want the same old thing we have had for the past 8 years.  God forbid McCain win with that wild woman, Palin.
The problem is he says "world". If he wins he will be pres of the US, not the "world" n
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You do not know how to debate

you are the biggest hypocrite ever.  I was debating with you, but just because you didn't like what I said you said I was attacking you.


Again, you're are a sad individual....hateful sad individual.


As far as I see it, there is no debate.
This country has gone to the dogs. We are now just another  *invading* country, with no morals, no Constitution, nothing of which to be proud.  We have a lying, warring regime taking us down with them, taking our freedoms, spitting on the Constitution, tearing the very fabric of this country, and you see nothing evil about that?  That, my fellow American, is what I cannot comprehend. Furthermore, Iraq was not our enemy.  The Bush Family MADE him our enemy so that our very DEMOCRACY would be eroded to the point that we won't even recognize by the time he is out of office.  And you don't see any EVIL in that?  WAKE UP, Smell the coffee, or even the stench that wreaks from this regime. 
Debate
One of the biggest problems that we have today is our inability to have intellegent discussions. The previous commenters irrational, over-wrought statements, frought with conspiracy theory, does an excellent job of proving that point. There is plenty of grist for calling those in power to task for their actions and decisions without foaming at the mouth. Oh, how I long for the days of the old boy's club of the congress before the eighties when people of conscience could disagree on substance, still be fast friends and treat their political opposites with respect and decorum. I'm contuinally amazed how the most vocal and extreme ascribe nefarious motives to others. This seems to be, almost exclusively, an affliction of the left. Without this intellectual pollution, we might be able to actually find common ground.

Debate me...

First it was that **we couldn't debate,** now it is ** persecution.** When did I say I was persecuted. I merely said the Crusades have been seen in a negative light for as long as I can remember and suddenly they are being seen in a good light. That's all, kaput, the end. Martyr...don't think so.


I don't know how you can live with such disdain for all liberals and all Arab peoples and have any peace or joy in your life. That is a full-time job, being angry.


debate
Hillary all the way -
No need to debate this...because I see it as the same and you do not....
I listened to AL Franken on Air America quite a few times...that was mild, and it was not a joke. He meant it when he said it. I find that offensive. You do not, probably because Ann Coulter did not say it talking about Democrats. Face it, if Ann Coulter had made the same comment Al Franken did, substituting Democrat names and Democrat for Republican, you would not say Ann Coulter was obviously joking and ignore it. That is what I am talking about...you can see exactly what Ann COulter did wrong, but blow off Al Franken as obviously joking. I just don't get that kind of rationalization, sorry. No offense meant...just don't understand it, and it seems so prevalent on the left side of the house. I mean, I can say Ann Coulter was wrong and that both statements by both people were offensive and wrong. You can agree that what Franken said was tasteless and classless, yet he gets a buy as *obviously joking." I just don't get why you can't just say both were wrong and leave it at that...Coulter has to be worse and Franken gets a buy.
Debate

Once again, this is a subject I feel very strongly about.  I applaud anyone who broadens their education by learning a foreign language or learning anything new for that matter.


That being said, I believe that anyone who wishes to immigrate to THIS country should wish to embrace our language, our customs and our way of life, not the other way around.  I am speaking here of the illegal INVADERS.  I imagine that those who become citizens through legal channels, most likely learn English.  I am sick to death of hearing babbling everywhere I go, to the grocery store, to restaurants, everywhere.  My ancestors immigrated LEGALLY from Ireland and Germany.  The other side of the ancestors were herded up and driven to a reservation like so many cattle.  I live next door to the Cherokee Nation and not once have I heard them speaking in their native tongue outside of their Powwows, although they strive to keep the language alive. They don't require a press 1 for Cherokee on every telephone message system. 


If this language issue isn't enough, it infuriates me that the Mexicans can come here to OUR country and march in their demonstrations while waving their MEXICAN flag.


Unfortunately, the reason we have to learn THEIR language to commuicate is most likely the majority who enter our country illegally are ignorant in even the most basic education and thus not likely to be able to learn a foreign language i.e. English.


You are correct, if we aren't willing to stand up for the heritage of our country; we may as well learn the language as one day we will most likely be part of Mexico and Spanish will be the official language.


debate is on

per debate commission and Obama. Let's rock.


 


debate
i will probably watch on cnn. i do not want to miss a word or a fumble/jumble confused silly look on anyone's face. I am my own best commentator and so will listen to the commentators after the debate.... one candidate is really not overly intelligent. i will see how well he was briefed...looking forward to the comedy !
I too think that this debate could have

been more indepth and not just the same old ho hum we have been hearing since the start.  Then again, it was only the first debate and hopefully they will get better.  We have a right to hear specifics from both candidates.  We have a right to see them put on the spot to see how well they handle themselves.  I want specific questions directed to each candidate and I was specific answers with details.  I don't want just a pleasant little Q&A session of fluff. 


On the debate....

I was kinda struck by how Obama kept harping on the 10 billion a day (was it?) spent in Iraq...but talking about more troops to Afghanistan.  Three brigades I think he said he would send.  Okay.  So, we are just going to transfer the 10 billion a day to Afghanistan instead of Iraq.  Still going to spend it, just in a different place.  I was almost yelling at the TV at McCain...ASK HIM ABOUT THAT.  lol.


All kidding aside....what I took away from it was Obama leans heavily on Joe Biden for the foreign policy stuff because he is just out of his element.  I thought Obama looked uncomfortable, and I got really tired of the smirk after awhile.


On the other hand...in all fairness, John needs to drop the "Miss Congeniality" line.  I was talking to the TV again..."we know, John, we KNOW."  lol. 


I think what makes Obama dangerous is his world view.  I do not say that to be mean....I just don't think he is realistic about it.  On the one hand he praises General Petraeus (that he got right), and turns right around and won't own up to the fact that the surge worked (even though O'Reilly got him to admit it).  Just goes back to the war was wrong.  The country is still divided on that.  You can't turn back time...and to lose it now would be wrong.  Petraeus DID say Obama's plan for a timetable was wrong.  I would think more of him if he would say "okay john, you were wrong about the war, but we're there and can't change that.  And I was wrong about the surge."  I know...dream on...lol.


It was a little alarming to me, facing what we are facing with this "rescue" bill, he STILL talked about spending bazillion dollars.  He would not, when pressed, name ONE thing he would put on hold.  That just makes NO sense to me, with the "rescue" bill, the deficit, owing money to China yada yada....and wants to fund that stuff with stiff taxes for business...in a down economy.  Sorry, I think that's NUTS.   Sorry....that also tells me he is either not real smart, or trying to get the vote of people who can't see past "he is going to lower my taxes and give me free health care."  I really don't think he is not really smart, so if he gets selected he will be saying  "I wanted to do these things, but the economy won't let me."  


I have heard people talk all morning (on the Dem side) about how he mentioned the middle class and John McCain didn't.  Frankly, the way it appeared to me, was Obama was pandering to the have nots and McCain is not going to promise something he knows he couldn't deliver in the economic situation we find ourselves in.  I thought it was kinda patronizing actually.  McCain understands that small businesses and yes, nasty corporations, drive this economy and employ a huge number of Americans.  In an economic downturn higher taxes on businesses does not work.


Another thing I think McCain should have JUMPED on is that Obama supports the Hank Paulson rescue plan endorsed by Bush and John McCain doesn't like it as it stands.  Obama is siding with BUSH!  Oh well....lol.


in this debate

the results would be the same no matter who the moderator or modulator or referee or interpretor was.


 


Debate

After watching the debates I have finally made up my mind.  We can not afford to have the angry, unstable John McCain in the White House.  He was not only angry, he was sarcastic.  My husband and I kept laughing waiting for him to explode.  I happen to live in a state that is leaning toward McCain.  I notice on the local TV station's forum, 5 people who have been avid McCain supporters have said they changed their  mind after watching the debates.  It was evident that Obama was angry a couple of times, and I don't blame him but he never lost his "cool."


The race issue is going to play a part in this election but I wonder, has anyone considered that Obama is both black and white?  Maybe, just maybe, he could be the one to finally put the race issue to rest.  Many blacks will vote for him because he is "black."  Many whites will not vote for him because he is "black."  Ridiculous.  He is equally black and white.  Since Lou Dobbs is not running in the first place, he has no chance of being elected.  I have decided I will take a chance on Obama.  If he turns out to be the worst president in history, well, I'll come back and say I helped elect him.  The only real issue I have with him is that of  his church affiliation.  I noticed that was not brought up in the debate so I can only assume that McCain has investigated that thoroughly and found that there is nothing there that would benefit him.


And as for "Joe the plumber"........I have no doubt that with his notoriaty he will own his own plumbing company but what about my son, "Bill the plumber" who also aspires to own his own plumbing company?  My son, "Bill the plumber" has been inclined to vote for McCain but doesn't think either candidate will help him own his own company and neither do I.


I didn't hear anything about "Jane the MT."  What about all the MTs who can't find a job?  That might be a good talking point.......did anyone notice that Obama wants to reduce medical costs by putting medical records on the internet?  Can anyone say bye-bye medical transcriptionists?  Of course that is already in the works so really won't make much difference.


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I agree. McCain cannot hide his shifty, deceiving body language. He blinks more often and quicker, and he doodles on paper rather than being comfortable making eye contact with Obama.

No one in this world can perform miracles, per se, but I feel that Obama has integrity and diplomacy and really wants to try and better the multitude of conflicts this nation is under, in a realistic but motivated fashion.
Actually during the last debate
He said "when I am president" quite a few times. Just FYI.
Thanks for the debate, its been fun
I think we both have valid concerns.  Here's hoping things turn out better than they are now.