More fact checking.....

Transcript from CNN last night:

FOREMAN (voice-over): A tax cut for every working family with less than $250,000 a year in income, tax incentives for businesses to create jobs, investing $15 billion a year in green energy, on it goes.

The biggest question that economic and tax analysts have raised, over and over, how will he pay for all this, without ballooning the deficit? Obama still did not give an answer.

In the same vein, he once again said he is going to save an average American family $2,500 a year on health care. Health care experts widely say, that is misleading. They do not believe his plan will produce such savings.

And one more quick item -- he said, we can create schools that work. And he had an example.

B. OBAMA: Three years ago, only half the high school seniors at the Mapleton School in Thornton, Colorado, were accepted to college. But, after a rigorous school reform program, this year, all 44 seniors were accepted.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COOPER: Tom, it sounds like a great school. What is wrong with that?

FOREMAN: Well, it is a great -- that is a great school, Anderson. It sounds wonderful.

"Keeping Them Honest," there is something he did not mention. The revolutionary changes at Mapleton School were financed by Microsoft billionaire Bill Gates and his wife. And, of course, Obama cannot promise that kind of support to every school in the country. It is right there on the school's Web site. You can see it easily. He presented it as if this were simply a reform in a school that worked really well.

It was a heck of a reform. It cost a lot, and it can't necessarily be replicated everywhere -- Anderson.

COOPER: All right. Tom Foreman, "Keeping Them Honest." Thanks, Tom.

• More fact checking..... - Chele
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    • John McCain has given a plan. - Chele
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affiliation of serial killers.  Sigh.  What do you think Osama bin Laden would register as if he could register to vote....ummmm....don't think it would be with the Christian right.....?  Are we going to try to list the perverts and see whose list is the longest?  Why even post this, when you have cigar-wielding Bill Clinton on your list?  Do you honestly think this man in the bathroom did what he did because he is a Republican?  If so, that means Billy must have wielded the cigar because he is a Democrat....?

I repeat...why even post this?

his watch every few minutes.

I agree.  I think the media is way out of line with that.  Judge Roberts and his wife should be commended and respected for having the love and compassion in their hearts to adopt these children.

The more I see of him, the more respect I have for him and the more I like him.

 The economy is growing. I don't care if it is exploding. The fact here is that more and more people are becoming more and more desperate. I think going to college is fine but what jobs are these people going to get when they get out of college. You mentioned something about trades...please, all the manufacturing jobs are gone. Small business...only a handful ever succeed. My guess is that most people wiped out of good paying jobs with benefits are supposed to go to Wal-Mart and just pretend everything is okay, and here in Florida, join the service industry. Money, the real god of our times, is what is killing a lot of people here in Florida. As an example, in my town, there are hundreds of small mobile home parks inhabited primarily by the elderly. The big money developers are coming in here, buying the parks and the people are out on the street. The owners of the park get millions of dollars and the people are usually offered a flat fee that would pay rent for about 2 years, or given 60 days to find a place to move their homes, On fixed income this, of course, cannot be done. Many of these folks lived all their lives doing the right thing, playing by all the rules. They moved to Florida, own a little bit of property and now they are expected to rent again and work again. An apartment 1 BR 1 BA that is decent would be around $1000. You do the math. Even those communities that are owned by the homeowners themselves have no say. Eminent domain comes into play and then they are really in trouble so...being elderly, forced out of your home, having Medicare screwed up beyond belief is okay because the economy is strong. I don't care about words or pie charts. I care about what I see and know to be true by looking at it with my own eyes. Just who is it benefitting from this growing economy??  Oh well, the market will straighten everything out, just wait.

Another thing is that everyone is not college material, even these days when a degree doesn't mean all that much anyway. It surely won't guarantee you a job and if you went to college after the 1970s you don't even have to be smart to get in; not that smart people are not in college, you just don't have to be anymore. You don't even have to know how to read..but that is for another day.  How many middle management degreed people have lost their jobs...quite a few. Airlines, GM, drug companies, utility companies...all these places hire degreed people. That old sheepskin won't save you anymore.

You say the poor will always be with us and I believe that as well. I do not believe that it is okay to walk over the additional bodies that greed has produced and there are legion. You call it lack of motivation on the part of the poor. I call it greed.

By the way, I see that the Iraq election is mysteriously mirroring the US election, split right down the middle.

Oh, and the drilling in Alaska. Why don't they drill in Detroit and make some cars that use some other form of fuel.  It just never ends.

Debacle...absolutely.

The teen was raised in that family, but as a human being she made her own decisions that her mother can't always control.  Just because she didn't fully coincide with her mother's platform of abstinence, she is with her pro-life stance and keeping her baby, marrying the dad.

that some of the associations he has had in his lifetime condone terrorist attacks on our country and others condone racism by spouting hate messages from the pulpit.  It has nothing to do with his name or his color.  It has to do with who he associates with.  If you want to know a true person.....look who they hang with.  Birds of a feather, my friend.

But putting all sketchy associations aside, the bottom line is that there are issues that I just don't agree with Obama on.  That is why I'm not voting for him.  I do not condone abortion.  I want to keep my guns.  I do not want to raise taxes for anyone.  I don't want to give welfare checks to people who are too lazy to get an education and work.  I want to stop government spending.  I want smaller government.  There are just so many issues where Barrack Obama and I do not see eye to eye that I really don't even have to use his race or associations as a reason to not vote for him.

I didn't say I was not a conservative.  I didn't say what I was as a matter of fact. It was the FACT that the poster ASSUMED I was something that frosted me.  This has nothing to do with the posts we are talking about, but you sure spent a lot of time looking for that didn't you?  How about finding the original posts that actually ARE being talked about?  It might take awhile, but they are there.  I know you either have a lot of time, or have printed off every post and have them neatly arranged in a three ring binder. 

it truly was a rhetorical question.

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unnecessary spending, but to get rid of all or most of the gov't programs would be devastating to the people who really need the help - not the deadbeats.  Maybe if we need to stop spending billions of dollars in Iraq.  Maybe we need to stop giving such big tax breaks and close some tax loop holes to big companies, that the gov't is ending up bailing out anyway. 

I don't agree with McCain or Palin on many issues, but I do agree with her on the her saying that the gov't needs to put out there like a list so we could see exactly where the money is going.  I don't remember her exact words, but that is the gist of what she said. 

I am still undecided who to vote for, leaning more towards Obama (put a sign for him out, mainly to T off a certain neighbor ).  I don't agree with Palin on any issues at all really, but I am still trying to research - though it is hard because you have to wade through all the mud slinging on both sides. 

that he cheated on his first wife many times before he met Cindy McCain and left his wife for her.  I also have a good friend who as a former fighter pilot actually knew John McCain.  He saw the philandering first-hand and has a very low opinion of him.  And he is a conservative republican. 

with a prominent and active member of the Chicago political community don't mean nuthing.  If there was any monkey business anywhere in Obama's past, it would have long, long, long ago been brought to light.  All you have is guilt by association and murky insinuations. Lots of people have contact with Bill Ayres.  Shall we bomb the city?