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O'Reilly is not a "Pub". He's an independent.

Posted By: He will defend EITHER side.nm on 2009-05-29
In Reply to: What I find interesting....(sm) - Just the big bad

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I'm not a "pub" but you're not in the know
Already hospitals and healthcare in general have gotten much needed info on what Obama is wanting to do. Medicare, since it is government owned, will make sure elderly receive ONLY a certain number of drugs for any particular illness, even if they need more to recover and even if they need a certain procedure to survive, they will be "allowed" only so much, and if that isn't enough meds/procedures to do the trick, who cares.....in other words, the elderly mean nothing to Obama (good thing his poor grandma doesn't have to see how her grandson has lowered the elderly to throw-aways)and now your precious Obama will take it upon himself to limit how many pills of a certain drug your grandmother gets and whether or not she should just be allowed to die, so government can save a few bucks!!!

Wise up!!
I'm not a "pub" but you're not in the know
Already hospitals and healthcare in general have gotten much needed info on what Obama is wanting to do. Medicare, since it is government owned, will make sure elderly receive ONLY a certain number of drugs for any particular illness, even if they need more to recover and even if they need a certain procedure to survive, they will be "allowed" only so much, and if that isn't enough meds/procedures to do the trick, who cares.....in other words, the elderly mean nothing to Obama (good thing his poor grandma doesn't have to see how her grandson has lowered the elderly to throw-aways)and now your precious Obama will take it upon himself to limit how many pills of a certain drug your grandmother gets and whether or not she should just be allowed to die, so government can save a few bucks!!!

Wise up!!
I am independent....independent of either party.
I am registered with neither. And I am not really interested in your interpretation of what a Republican is or is not.

I was talking about Obama's stand as an Illinois state senator. Since I do not live in Illinois and was not one of his constituents that rather rude indictment of what I would or would not do is moot. Had I been a resident of Illinois you can bet your sweet bippy there would have been plenty of senator/representative contact.

Not voting for Obama DOES give me a clear conscience. Whatever calamity he wreaks, it will not be because I put him in charge. If he gets his way we will become a socialist state. That is something I do NOT want to be a part of. PERIOD.
O'reilly

I cant stand to watch O'Reilly, he tries to portray that he knows everything and yet he is just a blow-hard..Someone who professes to know all but knows nothing..


 


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He was on O'Reilly
last night and he didn't say he wanted the elderly to fend for themselves.  He said that their benefits should be cut back because people are drawing out much more than what they paid in and it is going the bankrupt the whole thing.  I know it doesn't exactly sound pleasant to say but he is right in the fact that some people are getting twice as much as what they paid in and there won't be anything left for those of us paying into the system now.  Yes, the elderly paid their dues but why should they get twice as much what they paid in when the working class who is contributing to it now for when we get older...we WILL have to fend for ourselves because there will be nothing.
I don't watch O'Reilly. ?????
duh
O'Reilly quitting?

O'Reilly quitting, Woo..Hoo..Watch Olbermann dance around his desk, LOL!


 






Bill O'Reilly calling it Quits?

ABill O'Reilly calling it Quits?


The possible news made Keith Olbermann stand up and do a little dance.


                                  Video-WMP


                                  Video-QT



O'Reilly can't be trusted

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/06/01.html#a8537


The right jumped all over Dan Rather when he made a mistake one time, yet they don't even whimper over something even more irresponsible and egregious happening twice with O'Reilly. 


Obama/O'Reilly

BIll O'Reilly is a mysoginistic, race-baiting bigot who believes that everyone who is a guest on his show should kiss HIS butt.  IMO he gives real journalists a really bad image and should have been kicked off Fox eons ago


He patiently sat with O'Reilly

I don;t think he should have done that.  To pretend that Fox is actually a news outlet does the voters a disservice.  But hey, that;s the kind of guy he is.


 


Frank/O'Reilly

I was cheering that Bill is BACK!  I've been fit to be tied over his lingering lethargy for the last period of months, and have written to complain, too. 


There's a lot more on the web about Barney Frank and how filthy he is (in more ways than 1) this whole thing.  He should've been put in jail along with Chris Dodd and Palsen, etc.  Barney Frank's former lover worked for this outfit before they split many years ago.  I've read so much on it that I don't recall which place I read it, but obviously you won't find any of this investigative stuff on the driveby channels.  Even FNC doesn't put some stuff out there, which ticks me off.  But I find it, anyway between the conservative blogs, sites, talk radio, etc.  And these sources can be easily checked, so the libs can throw all the hissy fits they want.  If they honestly think it's okay to give literally ANY party a free pass just b/c it has your letter or preference behind it, that's just nuts!  I'm dying to clean out the RINOs in "my" party.  They don't belong there.


O'Reilly yesterday
Did you see O'Reilly yesterday, it was hysterical watching Joys face and hand motions
Coulter vs. O'Reilly...(sm)

Okay, I almost laughed myself to death watching these two morons go at it last night.  My favorite part of the interview would have to be:


COULTER: No. No. I said more books.


O'REILLY: I sell more books than you do.


COULTER: No, you don't.


O'REILLY: Yes, I do.


COULTER: No, you don't.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,478046,00.html


 


O'Reilly said last night that
Barney will be on the factor tonight.  Barney Frank is a moron and a crook.  I also wish he would buy himself some teeth.  Surely he makes enough money to get a decent pair of dentures.
O'Reilly: Twisted spin, again.

A quote:


 


O'REILLY: Massive neglect? Let's take a look at that bit of overstatement. Halfway through President Clinton's tenure in office, the poverty rate was 13.7%. Halfway through President Bush's tenure the rate is 12.7, a full point lower.


[COMMENT According to statistics obtained from the U. S. Census site, when Bill Clinton began his term as President in 1993, the poverty rate was 15.1%. By the time Clinton left office the poverty rate was 11.7%. By 2002, under George Bush the rate began to rise again to 12.1% in 2002, 12.5% in 2003 and 12.7% in 2004.


According to the Christian Science Monitor this most recent increase was unforeseen by analysts who expected the number to drop along with unemployment and may indicate a disturbing trend. While the poverty level for Asians declined and it remained stable for Hispanics and African-Americans, the only group that saw an increase was non-Hispanic white Americans living in the midwest. In other words there are 1.1 million poorer red state residents this year than there were last year.]


O'REILLY: In 1996 the Clinton budget allotted $191 billion for poverty entitlements. That was 12.2% of the budget. ... However, the Bush 2006 budget allots a record-shattering $368 billion for poverty entitlements - 14.6% of the entire budget - a huge increase over Clinton's spending. Did the elite media mention that? Jesse Jackson mention that? Of course they didn't. Because it's much more convenient for Evan Thomas and others to imply that America under President Bush has turned its back on the poor. But it's absolute nonsense. Even in the midst of the war on terror [Note: Did he mean the war of choice in Iraq?], this country is spending a massive amount of money tryin' to help the poor. So why the lie? Because political gain can be made off the suffering of others, that's why. Those who oppose the Bush administration don't care about the truth. They only want to advance their own agenda, so once again the No-Spin zone rides to the rescue.


Hard-working Americans are providing the poor with Medicaid, food stamps, supplemental security income - that's free money - child nutrition programs, welfare payments, child daycare payments, temporary assistance to needy families, foster care, adoption assistance and health insurance for children. But, it will never be enough for the Jesse Jacksons and Howard Deans of the world. Never! If they told you the truth, they'd go out of business.


Now, I fully expect to be attacked by the far-left media for tellin' you all this. I'm sure they'll label me a racist, a shill for Bush, stuff like that. But, I don't care. The dollars don't lie. We are a generous nation. And that is the truth.


COMMENT


Most of the poor in this country WORK, many of them hold down two and three jobs. If you want to read a damning book on this topic, I suggest you get Barbara Ehrenreich's Nickeled and Dimed: On (Not) Getting by in America. Ms. Ehrenreich went underground and worked at minimum wage jobs for a year. She discovered a few unpleasant facts about life on the lower rungs of the economic ladder. Self-satisfied, replete, rich men like Bill O'Reilly sit in their posh offices and scare hard-working Americans into believing that their taxes go to indigent scofflaws who sit at home guzzling beer, smoking pot, eating chips and watching TV. Those of us closer to homelessness know this is not the case.


When he mentioned that SSI (social security supplemental income) is free money, he neglected to say that it is money that goes to disabled Americans or that providing health coverage for children reduces trips to the emergency room!

Sometimes I wonder how many poor people Mr. O'Reilly actually knows or has associated with on a long-term basis? For the past 15 years I've been involved in a local program that offers music scholarship to needy families. In that time I've taught 7 different children from 7 different poverty situations and I came to know the families personally. Most of the adults in the family work really hard. Sometimes the kids worked, too, after school. Some had parents trying to break a drug habit (yes, they held down a job) or schizophrenic parents (who were incapable of working) or an abusive parent (who worked, then took it out on the family), but most were blessed with caring parents who were doing the best to provide for their children against almost impossible odds.


So when I hear guys like O'Reilly spout their simplistic tripe implying that the poor are sucking the lifeblood out of hard-working Americans, I see red.


Also, I don't trust O'Reilly's numbers on entitlement programs simply because he never once used the words inflation-adjusted dollars. If he was simply quoting raw numbers, I'd like to remind him that 15 years ago the dollar went farther. Additionally, he did not indicate through graphics or verbally whether or not there was parity between the two budgets, i.e., was he citing figures that included exactly the same programs in both figures?


Given O'Reilly's dubious track record, one cannot accept his statements without independent verification.


O'Reilly was on the Daily Show
the other night.  Did you see it?  It was pretty funny. 
I'd hardly call O'Reilly journalism, now would you? sm
He has a talk show.  That isn't journalism and most conservatives I know don't care for him. 
O'Reilly vs Obama, tomorrow pm. So much for those
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obviously Bill O'Reilly or Rush

Humboldt is spoon feeding the FOLKS this federal reserve nonsense.  Sign. Blink. Startle. Jerk.


 


Yeah, like when Bill O'Reilly had this to say sm

He first said this about the Spears situation:


"On the pinhead front, 16-year-old Jamie Lynn Spears is pregnant. The sister of Britney says she is shocked. I bet. Now most teens are pinheads in some ways. But here the blame falls primarily on the parents of the girl, who obviously have little control over her or even over Britney Spears. Look at the way she behaves. And by the way, the mother, Lynne Spears, has reportedly already sold pictures of the upcoming baby of her 16-year-old for a million bucks. Incredible pinhead."


And this is what he had to say about the Palin situation:


"Millions of families are dealing with teen pregnancy, and as long as society doesn't have to support the mother, father or baby, it is a personal matter. Some Americans will judge Governor Palin and her family, and she will have a hard time running for vice president if there is much more chaos. For the sake of her and her family, we hope things calm down. This country needs a vibrant policy debate, not a soap opera."


I am not defending Spears at all, but that is 1 example of a pinhead. 


I saw clips of that on The O'Reilly Factor.
I was cracking up.  "Your name is Joy.  You're supposed to be joyful."  LOL!  If she wants to be on a TV show like that, she really does need to lighten up and at least add to the conversation instead of just acting like she has a severe case of PMS.
Beck and O'Reilly and Hannity...
and for that matter Olberman and Matthews are not journalists, so-called or otherwise. They are commentators, which means they comment on the news, not report it. They share their opinions about news stories and have other people on their shows to discuss their opinions. It's not news, it's not reporting, it's simply opinion and people that watch it know that.

People that watch Fox are not uneducated or 'dittoheads' - it just so happens that our opinions and feelings about government and what's going on in this country and the world jive with most of the opinions on Fox. If you watch MSNBC or others it's because your opinion jives with what they're saying.

It doesn't give either group the right to say the other is brainwashed or pathetic, it just means we are of a different mindset and personally, I don't think that's a bad thing - if everyone was always of the same mindset, the Revolutionary War would have never been fought and we'd all be singing God Save the Queen.

You just have to remember to respect that people have different ideas and beliefs than you do - you don't have to agree, but at least have some respect.
Also Rep. Hoekstra was on Bill O'Reilly

last night.


What I believe is this is going to be one world government with the U.N. being the governing body.  Yet, the U.N. owes the U.S. millions of dollars for the building and land they meet in. They haven't paid in years (at least since some time in the 1990s).


Saw O getting off the plane and he didn't look very happy. First time I didn't see him with that big smile on his face. He looked a bit worried. Could it be that he now realizes being Prez is not so easy?  That not everyone in the world is wowed by his charm?


Actually Bill O'Reilly debunked this.
ACORN is not taking over the census for entire states or the entire US......however, they will be conducting the census for certain areas.  So they won't be in charge of the whole shebang, but they will be doing this for some areas.....which in itself is scary considering the fraud that went on during this past presidential election.
Bill O'Reilly is not right-winged.

He is in independent and he does lean to the conservative side.  I basically state something that happens to be similar to what O'Reilly says and it instantly makes what I said stupid, huh?  Is that how it works? 


I couldn't care less how ACORN competes for grants, etc.  If they are dishing out money to the dems, you don't think the dems will push for them to get said tax money.  Just like the unions and the dems pushing for more union control.....why.....because unions pay big bucks to democrats and their campaigns....duh. 


As for ACORN...there are people within ACORN itself who don't like what is going on.  I truly feel that there is something seriously wrong going on with that organization.  What exactly it is....I don't know, but I sure has heck know the news media won't even try to uncover it.  They are too busy kissing Barry's mixed butt.


You have spoken out against O'Reilly frequently...
polls do prove more and more people are listening to him, so that must be saying something about how they are truly feeling about Obama and it AIN'T positive.

For the most part, people who voted for him are NOT happy with what he is doing. I can name 10 neighbors on one side of my cul-de-sac alone who voted for Obama and is now regretting that vote. They have seen exactly where all this debt is heading, straight to their wallets and they definitely don't make 250K or more a year. It is going to grab them elsewhere but tax them to death none the less. If that's 10 out of my small cul-de-sac alone, I won't even bother to tell you how many at our community pool over several blocks of our neighbors are now openly regretting their vote.

They are definitely not happy with how he is handling anything because he isn't capable of handling anything..... he's nothing more than a puppet and someone else is pulling his strings.

If he gets healthcare reform through, you won't have to worry about who gets in the white house, because you'll be too taxed to death to care.
Wow, you've learned a word from O'Reilly
  tells me you must watch.  Again, exactly what does Rush say that is wrong?  I'm waiting. 
He is afraid of Bill O'Reilly, it's as easy as that....
Obama can handle the butt kissing and egg shell walking of Olbermann and Matthews but when it comes down to it, Obama can't answer real questions that would be poised to him by Bill.
Karl Rove, Bill O'Reilly, et al. sm

Hilariously shows how the hipocrasy knows no bounds: 


http://www.indecision2008.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086


This above is a link to the Daily Show with John Stewart.  I love his show, and Stephen Colbert's.  I'm not a political junkie (yet) so I need a *lot* of comic relief with my politics in order to stomach it. 


Both sides are hypocrites, it's true.  But I swear, the Republicans are so much funnier.  The mental gymnastics they're having to go through in order to claim SP has "experience" alone is a sight to see.  (Watch the clip above if you don't believe me.  Oh, and you can see S. Palin making a good point near the end of it for all of you who are fans of hers.)  In fact, Jon Stewart said he's putting "county first" in supporting Obama, because McCain being the pres. would make his job (as a comedian) so much easier...


Oh, and have no fear, anyone.  I balance out the political comedy with a healthy dose of serious political coverage too.  The most serious I can find lately is the stuff on PBS.  You know, the calm, old-style journalism type, free of the crawl at the bottom of the screen, free of all the hype and wild graphics at the bottom of the screen, free of people shouting because they actually take turns letting each other talk.  Anybody else miss that kind of reporting, where it's kinda boring to watch and you have to actually listen and pay attention to more than sound bites?  Ah, well.  I'm rambling...


I caught a clip of Bill O'Reilly
chewing Barney Frank a new butt during an interview.  He basically told him to claim the blame instead of trying to push it on others and called him a coward.  I was just sitting on the couch with my mouth open in shock.  I'm glad someone told the stupid SOB though.  Needless to say, Barney Frank didn't get to say much.  Also, if Barney Frank got all that money from these banks, why can't he afford to get some dentures on the top?  I can't stand to hear him talk.  PUT SOME TEETH IN!  SHEESH.
OMG! Bill O'Reilly was on the View today!!!

Joy was hateful through the whole thing. I used to like her but not anymore.


She's always arguing with Liz and now she even told Bill that she doesn't hate him, she just dislikes him. You know why? He tells it like it is and she even seemed furious that he and Barney Fife got into it on his program. It makes her sound like she likes Barney and she definitely doesn't believe he had anything to do with the downfall of FM/FM.  Bill tried to explain it but you think she would listen? Heck no.  I just can't believe how hateful she can be!


 


O'Reilly is obnoxious and everyone smart hates him nm
liz is polish what do you expect
O'Reilly, etc. are not "the regular news."

Try watching the morning news at 6 a.m. or during the day until 5-6 p.m. That's the news I'm talking about.


O'Reilly and the others are like Chris Matthews, Keith Oberman, and all those other fellas. They are more like a political talk shows. That's not news.


I have no problem with O'Reilly calling this guy a baby
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Bill O'Reilly did not promote violence.

Liberals don't promote violence, huh?  How about the gay rights protestors who physically knocked a cross out of an older woman's hands because how dare she oppose their opinion? 


8 October 2005, Seattle, WA:
Veteran's Home Vandalized
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/jamieson/243...html?source=rss

4 September 2005, Louisiana:
Democrat Senator Threatens Violence Against Bush
Mary Landrieu: I'll Punch Bush, 'Literally'

1 September 2005, National:
Leftist Radio Host Encourages Looting
Sean Hannity

25 April 2005, National:
Leftist Radio Threatens to Assassinate Bush
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadA...le.asp?ID=17878

17 February 2005, Portland, OR:
Former Pentagon Adviser Assaulted at University
Protester throws shoe at Richard Perle - Politics - MSNBC.com

24 January 2005, Milwaukee, WI:
Five Democrats Charged with Election-Day Tire Slashing
JS Online: 5 charged in GOP tire slashings

8 November 2004, San Francisco, CA:
Muslim/Democrat Mob Attacks College Republicans
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadA...le.asp?ID=15855

30 October 2004, Durango, CO:
Liberal Professor Assaults Conservative Student
http://www.durangoherald.com/asp-bin/artic...ews041030_1.htm

22 October 2004, Tuscon, AZ:
Conservative Commentator Assaulted at University
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/artic...ch22-ON-CP.html

5 October 2004, Orlando, FL:
Democrat Mob Storms GOP HQ, Injures Staffers
Protestors Ransack Bush/Cheney Headquarters In Orlando - Politics News Story - WKMG Orlando

October 2004, National:
A Pattern of Leftist Hatred
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=40898

17 September 2004, Huntington, WV:
3-Year-Old Girl Attacked by Democrat Thugs
Washington Times - Democrats accused of ripping Bush signs

20 March 2003, Madison, WI:
Republican Heaquarters Vandalized
JS Online: GOP headquarters in Madison hit with bricks, paint bombs


11 March 2003, Los Angeles, CA:
Peaceniks Destroy 9-11 Memorial
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=31473

1 April 2005
Violent leftist/Democrat physically assaults conservative Pat Buchanan at Western Michigan University
http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/002026.html

13 February 1996
Liberals steal press run of conservative newspaper Carolina Review in an effort to preserve victory for their liberal candidate
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/colu.../16/12704.html

1 March 2002
Liberals steal entire press run of a monthly conservative publication at the University of California-Berkeley and harass and intimidate its staff
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=26652

30 November 2004
Entire run of the November issue of the Yale Free Press, a conservative student publication, was stolen over the Thanksgiving break
Yale Daily News - Editors say Yale Free Press stolen

October 1999
Liberals at California State University at Sacramento stole 3,000 copies of the student newspaper. They were enraged because the paper, The State Hornet, had published the picture of a Hispanic man being arrested and charged with resisting arrest at a football game.
Nat Hentoff

1992
Liberals vandalize offices of The Collegian at the University of Massachusetts
http://collegefreedom.org/95press.htm


Happy Hanukkah, Bill O'Reilly! (see article)















Happy Hanukkah, Bill O'Reilly!
Barbara Ann Radnofsky, Texan for U.S. Senate 2006
No lyin'
No cheatin'
No stealin'

Held my nose and watched the same O'Reilly blather
made his pathetic atempt to delcare war on the NY Times, Rasmussen, etc. This is what sore losers do when they feel themselves in freefall. O'Reilly got his drawers in an uproar because he and Focks are down in the ratings and is'nt used to the idea of being #3 behind Olbermann, Cooper et all. Poor Bill.
Phil Donahue is the man. Had Bill O'Reilly shaking in his boots.nm
He makes good points and the only thing you get from his stance is that he doesn't want to fight the taliban, which is unfortunate for you NOT true.

Give a quote where he says the US should not fight the taliban.
The Sweet Jesus I Hate Bill O'Reilly page sm
is a great idea. O'Reilly, Hannity, Coulter, and Malkin are at the top of my list for rabid vermin. There are some other great links there too, some funny.
I saw Kirsten Powers, a democratic strategist, on O'Reilly last night. She says
pretty much stick a fork in him, he's done. I think so, too.  I saw some of those two women's posts. They were beyond hateful, anti-Christian, virulent Bush haters, foul, foul gutter language.  What was he thinking! 
According to Bill O'Reilly...Obama moving ahead in polls! (nm)

I watch Daily Show & O'Reilly and split the difference! NM
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Sam, how can you say you are an independent? sm
From your posts it appears you are a staunch republican. You know the saying, if it walks and quacks like a duck, Quack, Quack!
I too am an independent
In independent to me means not belonging to either party. You can be an independent and fervently support one candidate over the other. It means finding the better of the worst and not buying into the party line. I think people need to start comparing Obama's expereince with McCain's experience. If you want to compare Palin with anyone you need to compare her with the opposite parties VP candidate. But people are comparing Obama to Palin because there is no way they can win if they compare him to McCain. I am an independent, but the more I read, the more I listen to all the networks, the more I hear Palin's family getting "politically gang raped" the more I want to know why and the less I trust the liberals. I am an independent. Years ago I supported Bill Clinton til the end, I didn't support either Gore or Bush and the next term I didn't support either Kerry or Bush. Now I support McCain. That is because I can stand back and look at what both McCain & Obama have done. How they have voted in the senate, what they have done with their careers, how they want to lead the country, etc. and I can view it all with an open mind. That makes me and independent.
I am an independent with....
conservative values and some liberal ideas. Extremest? Don't know what that means. Never been called an extremest. When I hear that I keep thinking about some person who ties themself to a tree so it won't be cut down, but if it means I'm open to anything and will listen to all viewpoints and think on my own then yes that I am and glad to be one.

There's a lot I don't like that the republicans have done, but so much more I don't like that the democrats have done. However, what's worse is I don't like what the media and some of the posters on this board have come to. It is unbearable and they just pick and pick about absolutely nothing and spew lies and because of them I don't think I would ever vote for Obama.

As for Ms. Couric? She is a complete and utter moronian. No she is not running for president. She is not even qualified to give a decent interview and be respective of the people she interviews. If she thought Kissinger said that they she didn't do her research and should be the last person to interview anyone. She should go back to the morning show and gossip. She is a far left liberal and her condescending attitute exuberates. She is never that disrepectful to the democrats that she interviews. The media is so one-sided (on both sides - I'm not excluding anyone from blame), but at least I have the fortitude to listen to both sides and decide for myself who I like better.

I made one comment and you think I'm going to vote for McCain? Oh, boy do you have that one wrong. I have mixed feelings about the debate and I thought Obama did well on certain issues and I thought McCain did well on other issues. I hear the liberal media trashing McCain and for what (the way he looked, because he wasn't wearing a flag pin?) The liberals are too interested in "looks" they ignore the issues. I close my eyes and listen to each candidate, that way I don't see if they look to the right when the should look to the left, smile at an inapproate moment or any of that utter nonsense each accuses the other of.

I'll tell you I do not like the democrats proposal to the bail out. They want to give a free pass to the people who created the mess and have the average working american pay for it. Maybe seeing as you are so "for" this, you can supply your address and they can bill you the $10,500 it will cost each family and you can pay my share cos I don't have that kind of money!

As for the debate, I understood Obama more on what he was saying. McCain's answers were too complicated and left me wondering what he was talking about. However, it does not mean I liked what Obama was saying. As for foreign policy, sorry but taking a vacation in a foreign country doesn't qualify you as being knowledgeable in foreign policies.

McCain stated perfectly well and it's on record that he voted against a lot of what Bush was proposing. To say its going to be more of the same is a scare tactic and lie and you are just going along with the party line.

I hate Rush Limbaugh! I think he's a biggoted pig who can't listen to the truth if it stood in front of his face, and he puts down anyone who doesn't agree with him. At the same time I can't stand Sean Hannity, Alan Colmes, Mike Savage, Ray Talafero, Keith Oberman, Rachel Maddow (well she's actually not too bad) or any other right or left wing slime-bag who doesn't look at the whole picture with open eyes and trashes one side with false information while propping up their side with inflated opinions.

I do have to admit - Obama does seem to be on the side of the average americans, but cripes....look at his voting record. Sure, anyone can say their going to do this and that for you, but look at what they have done in the past, how they have voted, etc.

Here are my likes and dislikes -
What I like about Obama - He seems to have fresh ideas (which we can use right now). He's a very eloquent speaker, nice looking, nice looking family. When he says he cares about you I believe it. If he becomes president I can deal with that. I'm not against him, just people need to know what are his plans and he needs to stop lying to us. When he lies about one thing what else is he lying about. And he never said he would cut out unnecessary things that we don't need. So that tells me he's going to have all these programs and we will end up paying for them just like when Clinton was in.

What I don't like - I don't trust that he will do all the things he promises. We will be taxed to the hilt to pay for all the programs that we will not benefit from. While I like that he is willing to talk to our enemies I don't think he's knowledgeable enough about foreign policies, etc.

While I like that he's knowledgable about the economy I don't like his solutions for how to fix it (it screws us while keeping his rich friends rich!)

What I like about John McCain - He doesn't vote straight republican. He is in the middle. His comment about Obama being so far to the left he couldn't reach over was stup!d. To call someone left or right is just a gimmick. It means nothing (at least to me). I like and feel safe with McCain's knowlege of foreign policies. I feel that McCain will fight for the Americans so we don't end up paying for congresses mistakes. To say that if McCain gets in only the rich will get richer because its the same exact thing if Obama gets in there. Obama is rich and surrounds himself with the rich and those 1% rich they are always talking about with the republicans, well they have their 1% richest friends too. We saw it when Clinton was in office.

What I don't like about McCain is I wish he was younger (although Biden is around the same age). I wish he had a little more color (his skin is very white). I wish he would talk in simpler terms I could understand, and I wish he would stop saying "my friends" in every other sentance.

All in all I believe presidents are just talking heads. They surround themselves with the people who make the decisions. They don't think on their own. They carry out their orders from their superiors.

As for "big government getting cutbacks under Bush". Big government was getting cutbacks under Clinton. This is not anything new and not prone to one party or the other. However Clinton's legacy is that we saw NAFTA and the beginning of our jobs being shipped overseas.

As for talking about Obama and Palin's inexperience. They are both inexperienced. But I also remember...so was John Adams, George Washington, and all the other leaders in the beginning. The difference for me is that Obama is running for President. Palin is only running for VP. And I trust the people that McCain will surround himself with more than the people that Obama will surround himself with.

So because I bring up that I heard Kissinger interviewed and he said that he never said he would sit down and talk to enemies without preconditions you make an assumption that I'm an extremist and conservative. If I heard on the news that something McCain said was a lie you would probably be cheering me on. You just don't like when your candidate does something wrong and points it out.

I think you should read a post and keep your hatred to yourself, and who is Henry?

I am independent and a free thinker and I am proud of it!
I am independent as well and see what happens
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I am an independent. s/m
I lean left sometimes, yes.  Sometimes I lean far right.  I personally do not believe in abortion and I believe homosexuality is a sin and a choice people make.  That's pretty right, isn't it?
My take......from an independent
When you factor in ALL the illegals that should NOT be voting that were voting and then factor in ALL the pushed in fraudulent voters who didn't even know who Obama's running mate was (they thought it WAS Palin), then it's no surprise Obama won. After all, he did promise all "illegals" they could get a drivers license and all moochers they could get free money, so gee, what motivation! A no-brainer!!

Factor in the hard working folks who were voting out of shear fear of the economy, the women who were afraid they wouldn't have the "right" to murder an unborn child, and you have yourself a president, for good or for bad.

Flame all you want....the truth usually does incite.

I still say Ron Paul would have been much better for this country. Much smaller government, no IRS, close our borders against illegals....the list goes on and on.
I'm independent
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Independent?
It does not sound like you (sm) are an Independent.  I don't see anything but praise for Obama and hate for Republicans and Bush.  Where are your posts supporting anything conservative?
I am independent as well, which is why
I don't fall for all this garbage going on!! Where did you get off with the Palestinian people? We weren't talking about the Palestinian people... if you wanna do that, then start a thread on that! And, somehow, I doubt seriously you know better than me! HOW POMPOUS!

I am definitely not confused! If Obama wants to stay out of Iranian problems, then he should stay out of everything else as well.... he can't simply pick and choose when it's a Muslim country involved, which is exactly what he does.