Pelosi is even more phony than Obama
Posted By: I think she is made of plastic. nm on 2008-09-26
In Reply to: LOL. I don't like Nancy Pelosi either. - Chele
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This guy gets it. Sees through the phony Obama
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I dont hate Obama, but he seems like a phony.
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I really don't see Obama picking Pelosi for
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In reading what Obama and Pelosi want, anything
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But you look UP to Obama? Pelosi? Reid?
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If this is true...Obama is no better than Pelosi when she went to Syria...sm
http://washtimes.com/news/2008/oct/10/obama-sought-to-sway-iraqis-on-bush-deal/
Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et al.....are set to truly burn our
constitution to ashes, as well as our flag. Obama did that in real life, too, didn't he? Stood and watched the American flag being burned?
Bushy did his fair share in some eyes, I wager.
That's nothin' compared to what the incoming regime wants to do.
Come back in a year or less, and let's see who's right on this issue, hmmm?
Obama's Nancy Pelosi Problem
Only 2 excerpts posted here. Read the whole article. Interesting. This may have been posted before and if so, I'm sorry to repeat it.
"...Pelosi has also embraced—even encouraged—her role as Republican enemy No. 1. GOP leaders know better than to go after Obama, whose approval ratings still float around 70 percent. According to Rasmussen, Pelosi is at about 35 percent. "She believes in the president and is willing to take any punches she needs to for him," says a Democratic leadership aide.
But Pelosi isn't taking those shots without getting something in return. In ways that have not always pleased the White House, the Speaker has made it clear to the president that when it comes to House business, he has to go through her. "We are an independent branch of government," she has said repeatedly. Though Pelosi's office denies it, an administration official tells NEWSWEEK that the Speaker asked to be informed whenever the White House contacts a Democratic House member. She also wants to know what the conversation was about...."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/186961
If you go there, please include Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Obama, McCain....the list goes
You can't be selective. If you insist on putting blame for the current situation our country is in, you must put the blame on each and every person that was a part of it.
With the help of a whole bunch of dems...Pelosi, Reid, Franks, Dodds, Obama...
Ya, thanks for your phony thanks...sm
saw your other post below on links......
You're the phony.
And you're the one who has issues..severe anger management issues. You've been up and down this board throwing hissy fits, one right after another, being rude, crude, angry and obnoxious to anyone who dares to disagree with you, and you even had the audacity to suggest to someone (who has put up with your crap and tried to discuss issues with you) that they have anger issues. YOU are the one with an obvious anger problem. You act like a 3-year-old who is throwing a tantrum because she can't get her way. You're the one who is phony. You must have a pitiful personal life, and it must really suck to be YOU because you are obviously miserable.
I saw the big phony. Why donate? He gets enough
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Romney is a phony, but at least not a lunatic. sm
McCain will bomb Iran the day after he takes office. There really is no difference in voting for either one - they will both assure the status quo, but I do not want McCain anywhere near a button for a bomb.
phony outrage coming from the
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Oh, I know. Al Gore is the biggest phony
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More Bush abuses: Phony 9/11 Loans
Nevada tanning salon gets 9/11 loan: audit
By Jim WolfThu Dec 29, 3:10 PM ET
A Texas golf course, a Nevada tanning salon and an Illinois candy shop were among small businesses that may have improperly received U.S. subsidized loans intended for firms hurt by the September 11 attacks, an internal government watchdog has found.
The Small Business Administration's inspector general said in a report made public on Wednesday that in 85 percent of the sample of loans it reviewed, a company's eligibility to receive the money through the program could not be verified.
A leading Senate Republican called for further investigation, but the Small Business Administration said the program was properly implemented.
The one-year, $4.5 billion Supplemental Terrorist Activity Relief, or STAR, program offered loan guarantees to small businesses adversely affected by the September 11 attacks.
However, the Small Business Administration had failed to properly oversee lenders to make sure that only eligible borrowers obtained STAR loans, the watchdog's report found.
Money may have gone to businesses that were not adversely impacted by the terrorist attacks of September 11th or their aftermath, wrote Robert Seabrooks, assistant inspector general for auditing.
Congress authorized the program in January 2002, and set aside $75 million to cover potential defaults. The program was operated through the Small Business Administration's main loan-guarantee program and the loans were made by participating banks. In all, 8,201 loans were approved totaling $3.7 billion, but only 7,058 were actually paid out.
Of 42 STAR-loan recipients interviewed by the inspector general's office, just two said they were aware they had obtained a such a loan. In cases where eligibility could not be established, 25 of 34 borrowers interviewed stated they were not adversely affected by the attacks, the report said.
GOLF COURSE
The report's examples included the Texas golf course, whose owner was cited by a lender as saying people were more interested in staying home and watching the attack on television than playing golf. However, the course was owned by someone else when the attacks took place and the justification for the $480,000 in loan guarantees did not apply to the new owner, the report said.
The tanning salon's lender blamed the September 11 attacks for hurting the Las Vegas casino industry which employed many of the salon's customers.
However, the inspector general found the salon's business had grown by 52 percent in 2001 and 32 percent in 2002 and said there was no evidence the owner could not borrow outside of the program. The SBA guaranteed $437,000 in loans to the salon, which were used to expand.
The Illinois candy shop received $21,250 in guarantees but could not back up its claim that the attacks had delayed the shop's opening, the report said.
Senate Small Business Committee Chairwoman Olympia Snowe, a Maine Republican, said her panel would look into the program.
If abuses are discovered, many questions must be answered by the parties involved, beginning with how and why was this allowed to happen, she said in a statement.
SBA said it has told lenders it will not honor guarantees on defaulted loans that fail to document the September 11 link.
SBA implemented the STAR program as Congress intended, Administrator Hector Barreto said in a statement.
The inspector general said it appeared qualified borrowers were not shut out of STAR loans.
(Additional reporting by Diane Bartz)
Pathetic are people who would follow this phony.
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Rush cant stand a phony spouted scripted
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Anyone know why Pelosi is so against this?
It seems every other day we're getting new information that needs to be investigated. I don't understand what the problem is with impeachment?
I guess Clinton should have learned his lesson - it was wrong to lie about who you had sex with, you should've just claimed executive privilege instead!
Think what you want about Pelosi
The facts are the facts no matter your opinion of Pelosi.
More like what was up with Pelosi
I'm trying to concentrate on what Mr. Obama was saying and she kept getting up and down and up and down and up and down. I was getting nauseous and dizzy watching her. She detracted from him, and his speech was important, but I couldn't focus because every other second she kept jumping up and clapping her hands and moving around like a child with that stupid grin on her face. I don't know if anyone else noticed it but it was very distracting. DH and I kept saying we wished Biden would have grabbed her arm and told her to sit still. Either that or if Mr. Obama would have turned around and told her to sit still and quit acting like a child. This is one of those times I would have loved to see him turn around and slap her and told her to behave like an adult not a child. I really wanted to listen to him but instead all I could focus on was her. At one point I closed my eyes to focus on what he was saying but I ended up falling asleep. I wish they'd move their chairs off to the side and not right behind the president's podium. I want to look at the one who is speaking, not the two behind him.
What I would have really have loved to hear Mr. Obama say is - Every senator and person in congress starting with myself, the VP, and Pelosi is that everyone is taking a 25% pay cut and we're putting it back into the economy. No, instead they can all grin up there because none of what happens to us affects them.
Anyway...that was off the topic. Just wondered if anyone else noted the Jack-n-the-box behind him.
Pelosi wants another
"stimulus package." However, since people have gotten wind of this, a lot have been complaining and I think congress has backed off a little on this. However, it wouldn't surprise me if this happens. Obama needs to reign her in before she makes a huge stain on his presidency.
Some of Pelosi's new rules sm
This is from an article before the elections. This sure would be a good start in the right direction.
The act is a tough document, authored by Nancy Pelosi, the San Francisco-area congresswomen who has been the Democratic House leader since 2002. She will likely be the House Speaker if the Democrats win next Tuesday.
Here are some of the new rules Pelosi wants:
No House member may accept any gift of any value from lobbyists, or any firm or association that hires lobbyists.
No free travel, which means an end to the corporate jet line every Friday at Reagan National Airport.
No free tickets to Redskins games; or no meals of any value, even at a McDonalds; no front-row seats at entertainment venues. No, no and no.
Temptations resisted
To reduce temptations to cheat, Pelosi's bill attacks the usefulness of members to richly endowed lobbyists.
House members will no longer be able to slip in special-interest projects on unrelated legislation. Such measures will no longer be allowed on a bill once negotiations between the Senate and House are complete.
Further, all bills will be made available to the public a full 24 hours before a final vote; presumably this gives watchdog groups a chance to flag any skullduggery.
Under the Pelosi rules, lobbyists will no longer be able to use the House gym (you'd be surprised how much gets negotiated in a sauna). Lobbyists will no longer be allowed onto the House floor or to use the cloakrooms just off the floor, preventing last-minute arm-twisting.
What's more, no member or staffer will be able to negotiate for employment in the public sector without disclosing such contacts to the House Ethics Committee, and within three days of such contact being made.
Finally, all of this will be audited and investigated by a new Office of Public Integrity, and that office reports, directly and only, to the U.S. Attorneys Office.
At this point, you'd be entitled to ask, heard this before, what makes you think it will be accepted by Congress?
Can it work?
No doubt there will be attempts to water down some of these new regulations. In fact, many of these proposals have been in other bills that have been defeated in the recent past.
But several key congressional experts tell CBC News that Pelosi means business and might just be able to push this through. They put it this way.
Pelosi and the congressional Democratic leadership are not likely to get much credit simply for gaining control of the House.
Conventional wisdom already sees such a victory, should it happen, first and foremost as a repudiation of the Bush administration and the Republicans.
This Honest Leadership and Open Government Act is a way of hitting the bricks running. Plus, it could be enormously popular with voters of all persuasions.
They point out Pelosi herself has little national profile and wants quickly to paint some bold strokes. She promises the act will be the first legislation tackled if she leads a new Congress.
Also, Pelosi can and will extract promises of support from those getting leadership positions and plush committee chairmanships and the like.
These new rules will apply in the House as soon as they are passed by simple majority.
The Senate has different rules, but for Republicans and Democrats there, the pressure to comply with the Pelosi standards will be huge.
Pelosi - NO impeachment.
See video link.
Defying Pelosi...
Good for them. It bears out the notion that most of the seats the Democrats gained were taken by the more conservative Democrats...not the far left like Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Murtha. There is a new wind blowing in America...yes indeed.
LOL. I don't like Nancy Pelosi either.
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Pelosi and Palin
Nancy Pelosi has NO charisma but she is both knowledgeabe and competent. Both parties agree. Even the diehard Republlicans in both houses are embarrassed by John McCain's choice of Sarah Palin and many are now calling for her to be replaced. I genuinely feel badly for her.........she was chosen only to prove he is a "maverick" and did not strictly follow party lines.She was not given much time to prepare before being thrust in the spotlight. This will probably destroy what could have been a bright future for her.
Seriously, did anyone see her interview with Katie Couric? She has to get "her head arount Putin's"??? I was genuinely embarrassed for her.
 I also wondered can't she just look in his eyes like George Bushi did and see his soul?
Are you kidding me? I don't like Pelosi
either but to say Palin does a better job is comical. Let's see how SP does after a few days of stress like Pelosi and the senate have been in, and then give an interview. Palin can't give an interview without days notice to rehearse every possible question.
You are saying then that Nancy Pelosi would...
make a better President than Sarah Palin. Are YOU kidding ME???
Pelosi and Palin
I will NEVER post again to this board. Such vitriol from some of the posters and it is not worth it. I do not like the feeling of being attacked for a simple statement.
We all have our own personal beliefs and opinions.I am just wondering, though, how many people running for a powerful office are routinely filmed being blessed by their pastors for "protection against witches".
I also wonder how many "Christians" would slash their state's Special Olympic budget and then objectify their own special-needs child for political gain.
Actually, Pelosi makes it look like a
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I can't stand Pelosi
but don't ya recall who's been in the White House for the past 8 years, well make that 20 of the last 28 years. Obviously the Republican trickle down wealth hasn't worked so well. And don't give me the Democrats for the past 2 years. Obviously they haven't done anything either but for the previous 6 years, as I seem to recall Republicans had total control of the government and look where we are?
Pelosi is in a hurry because....(sm)
just like with every other election, the sooner you can pass stuff the easier it is. The government is under more scrutiny from the public at the very beginning of a term because they expect to see some changes immediately. Americans aren't exactly a patient people. As far as the stimulus plan goes, she needs to be in a hurry because the sooner something is done, the sooner people can get back to work. We don't have the luxury on this one to sit around and wait to see what kind of bait needs to be there for pubs to sign on like we did with the first bailout. Two words --- wooden arrows.
Nancy Pelosi should have been
thrown out a long time ago.
Pelosi's mice
Wah, wah, wah - sounds like a whiny liberal!!
Nancy Pelosi
With her election as Speaker, Nancy Pelosi is the first female Speaker of the United States House of Representatives. She is also the first Italian-American and first Californian to serve as Speaker. As Speaker of the House, Pelosi ranks second in the line of presidential succession, following Vice President Joe Biden, which makes her the highest-ranking female politician in United States history.
He is President Pelosi's
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Did you get your "words" for the day from Pelosi?
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What a bunch of Pelosi!!!
In other words...what a bunch of bu!!sh!t.
so you don't think pelosi lied?
You think she's above board, an asset to her party?
Pelosi Bungling Democractic Win?
Pelosi Bungling Democratic Win With Hastings Appointment
Sunday, November 26, 2006
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The first time I met Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., in 1984, she announced that she was the new counsel to the Democratic Platform Committee and henceforth would be advising its chairwoman, Geraldine Ferraro, and since she was older and more experienced than I was, she wasn’t looking for direction from me, even if I had put the whole thing together.
Sort of like a truck going 90 miles an hour—and she proceeded to tell Geri exactly the opposite of what I’d agreed to for the first vote with my friends on the Mondale campaign, who controlled a majority of the delegates. I explained the problem to the late Paul Tully, one of the greats in politics, Mondale’s representative, who ambled over to Geri and said it would be a good idea if she listened to me.
Jane insisted. Geri ruled. The chair promptly got overruled. From then on, I told Jane what to tell Geri, and we got along just fine, and have ever since.
Clearly, Nancy and Jane never worked it out.
But that is still no reason to appoint Alcee Hastings to chair the Intelligence Committee, and effectively sacrifice the corruption issue before you’ve begun.
That was the conclusion at my Thanksgiving table, where virtually everyone was friends or fans of Nancy Pelosi, the incoming Speaker, and Jane Harman, who should be the incoming chair of Intelligence, were it not for what everyone seems to concede is a personal problem between the two women.
Now, we all know that when two men hate each other, what do we say? Do we walk around looking for animals to compare their disagreement to?
Do we say these two are caught in a dog fight, and belittle them for it?
The fact is that the fight between Pelosi and Harman reflects badly on Pelosi herself. She is inevitably one of the “cats” in the catfight. It hardly elevates her as a leader to be thought of as a petty woman counting and comparing her Sunday television appearances with the other prominent woman in the delegation.
After all, she is about to be in the line of succession for the presidency. If she is still worried about having other women in the room, then the women who are supporting her have reason to worry about her.
There is also, of course, the question of Harman herself. Yes, she is aggressive, as I found out, and everyone has. But she is also smart, tough and realistic, exactly the sort of person Democrats need to put out front— and yes, a woman in a world in which they are few and far between.
Since Pelosi is not going outside the system to appoint women, the least you might expect is that she would appoint the women who are rightfully in line according to the traditional seniority system.
But perhaps most important, there is the question of corruption and Rep. Alcee Hastings, D-Fla.. Corruption was the number two issue mentioned by voters as a reason for not returning the Republicans to control of Congress. Democrats have an opportunity to do something significant about ethics reform. It doesn’t cost money. Why blow it before you start?
When you go back and reread the history on Hastings—who, prior to his election to Congress, was impeached and removed from office as a U.S. District Court judge— it just doesn’t sit well. The vote to impeach him in 1988 was 413-4, with not a single member of the House standing to defend him. While he had been acquitted of bribery charges at trial, a post-trial investigation by the U.S. Court of Appeals concluded that he lied at his trial and faked evidence, and he had in fact plotted with a lawyer to take a payoff for reducing the sentence of a supposed racketeer.
In his Senate trial, John Conyers, a leading black liberal, was one of the prosecutors.
He said: “We argue that he must be removed from office so that he does not teach others that justice may be sold. In 1989, he was convicted by the Senate and removed from the bench.
Is this who Pelosi is going to pass over Jane Harman to put in charge of the Intelligence Committee?
The fact is that whatever rivalry Pelosi and Harman have had over the years is over. Nancy won. She can afford to act like a winner, and appoint Jane. Alcee Hastings is more of a threat to her than Jane.
Nancy Pelosi has 5 kids....
maybe she should have aborted a couple? Geez.
Let's not forget Pelosi's "experience" in...sm
visiting heads of states sponsoring known terrorist organizations, namely, Syria, in 2007, against the current administration's policy and wishes.
She was a traitor to her own country. Period.
Can't stand watching her.
connection with Pickens & Pelosi
Check it out for yourself. They both stand to make even more $ than they already do. It's all about power and an even larger ego than they already have.
AIG thumbing their noses at us again! Also, Pelosi
They took a trip to the UK for partridge hunting and it cost us $88K. Aren't we so kind to them. Yeah, go ahead AIG, take all the trips you want. We don't mind. You all need that time to think up another trip.
Pelosi wants another $300B from the bailout. Don'cha just love her? She's so wonderful.
We all know Pelosi is a crazed nutjob but they
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I heard Pelosi and Reid
both say they demand a PLAN from all three before they will agree to give them any money, that they wanted full accountability and transparency. (I had to DOUBLE-CHECK to make sure it WAS Pelosi and Reid I was hearing.)
I think this is a good idea. Maybe if those conditions had been applied to Paulson, the Wall Street crooks would have had to toe the line a bit. Instead, sadly, Wall Street gets a blank check, NO oversight, NO transparency, and Paulson keeps changing his mind about what to do with the money.
I don't want to see America lose GM, Ford or Chrysler. They have the technology available to them to manufacture cars that can get 50 miles per gallon. (I bought one in the mid 1980s.) Maybe they need to spruce up the old ཽ Mustangs, or even the beloved ཱུ Chevies with that kind of gas mileage for those of us who can't afford the expensive hybrids they want to offer.
The main problem, though, seems to be the arrogance of the CEOs of these companies (particularly with the private jet issues). One of these CEOs (I can't remember his name now) was asked if he would resign if it was for the good of the company, and he flatly refused and indicated there was nothing wrong with his performance. In my opinion, the cockier their attitude, the less they may be likely to get.
The other option of bankruptcy would force restructuring, and I believe would force out the incompetent CEOs and managers, developing a viable plan and starting from scratch, while still operating and not needing to lay off so many workers.
I've known for well over a year now that we were in a recession. I used to watch the Dow every day, did a happy dance and sang a little song (with apologies to Neil Sadaka): "Dow, doobie do, Dow down. Come on, Come on, Dow, doobie do, Dow down. Goin' broke is hard to do."
I think those of us with the least noticed this trend a long, long time ago. I realized then that until and unless the richest of the rich started to feel the "pinch," people like us would never have a chance because we were the invisible Americans. (I guess this is the "bottom-up theory.")
In a convoluted sort of way, this might help some Americans. I know it's going to hurt a lot of people, as well, but the less money people can spend, the more prices will be forced to go down. That old "what the market will bear" kind of thing. So working from the "bottom up," as Obama has mentioned, seems to go along with the way I've been thinking this for a long time now.
Regulations must be put back in place regarding Wall Street. They all will be getting their Christmas bonuses this year -- quite hefty ones -- and you and I are paying for them. Meanwhile, Christmas in my home is looking very bleak this year.
I read somewhere that the CEO of any company, by law, shouldn't be allowed to earn more than the President of the United States earns.
Sounds like a good place to start.
My wishes for a great evening to you all. 
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We KNOW O doesn't...Pelosi's are bigger, but still no..nm
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I love Nancy Pelosi!
I think she is doing a wonderful job and hope she continues to do so for years to come. We need more people like Nancy Pelosi in government. In case you are not aware of what she has accomplished during her career, here is a link that you may find very educational.
http://www.house.gov/pelosi/biography/bio.html
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