Sing it sister!! Earned income tax credit most defintely is welfare.
Posted By: ginger on 2009-02-25
In Reply to: Don't we want to live like our founding fathers did? - sm
But I bet very few people who receive it think of it that way. They just happily cash that refund check.
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okay - what do you think earned income credit is?
My sister pays no taxes - she has no taxes taken out of her check every week - she works a full time job, but she still every year gets back $5000-6000. Now why do you think that is any different than what you are talking about now? It is the same thing...
Yes, earned income credit, we pay our taxes....
Whaddya you make? 7 cents a line? LOL. You call that paying taxes? HAHAHAHA!
No, it's more than jus the earned income credit and kids.
This is adding in things like tuition and related school expenses, but not claiming the grant money they've recieved to pay for that - which you legally have to do. That's what makes me so mad!
Sorry, earned income credit, I have to pay taxes.....
I have no dependents, alas. I don't get food stamps or Welfare, either. Unlike you, the prophet, I will wait and see what direction our President takes us. You might be disappointed or I might be disappointed, but, obviously, it will all roll out in the end, won't it? Yes, I know about gas. Unfortunately for you, it has no escape route because you are too full of $hit to allow its escape. Sorry about the blockage.........honest, it isn't brain matter - it is fecal.
Time to stop the earned income tax credit
No more WELFARE period. Everybody can plant a small garden - even in pots. Go fishing and deer hunting for your meat. Tents are cheap - can walk or hitchhike to warmer climates so you're more comfortable. Live off the land! And let govt get smaller - no more handouts to ANYONE! If we did that, we wouldn't need roads or bridges - end that spending habit. Get rid of government completely. Everybody arm yourselves and live like they did in the old west. We are already well on our way to being a 3rd world country (even airports are dingy). Everybody is on their OWN. Consumerism would end. Who needs TV or iPods or computers or anything else? We're all gonna die anyway. Some sooner than others, but there's no way outta that one. If you don't make any money - you won't have to pay taxes.
How much did you make on your "earned income credit" this year? Welfare momma......
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Are you complaining about the "earned income credit?" nm
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Check out his income tax returns. Bulk of his income
royalties he gets from his books, which are selling like hotcakes. Besides, he gets to spend his own salary, yes? Your second paragraph is incoherent and inaccurate. McC's age is an issue NOT because of his "image", but rather because of his ill-advised VP pick and the truly TERRIFYING idea that SP could ever get that close to the oval office. SP's beauty pageant competitions have little to do with image either, rather with perceptions. Your parting shot is ridiculous. Obama gives twice the average American to charity and his jet is something his contributors think is key to his ability to "spread himself around" and get the vote out. You or I cannot pretend to know what he will do with it once the election is over. One thing for sure is that he will not be lying about selling it on Ebay.
The 2008 credit has to be paid back (no interest), but not the 2009 credit.
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and you sing like a turkey
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lets all sing about Jesus
As MT you should know better. Are we talking about a procedure or the morning after pill?
Catholics think the Mirena is abortion, the birth control pill is abortion. You know what? If the republicans stay in charge, no one will have any money to take care of their kids. They will all be driving to Nebraska to drop them off. Give me a break. You want to prevent MURDER, go to Congo this week and preach to them!
No, let's just sing the praises of Obama nm
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Class envy at its best. Bet you would sing a different tune...
if you were one of those rich people. You do realize Obama is rich....right? Ten thousand dollars for kid's camp? 1.2 million house? Just so you know...he's one of those fine benevolent rich people. There are rich Democrats...lol.
And all hold hands and sing kumbaya....
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credit for safety = credit for 9/11
If Bush wants takes credit for keeping us "safe" from terrorist attacks since 9/11, then he has to take credit for the fact that we experienced the largest terrorist attack in US history under his presidency, as well. He can't have it both ways!
I gave credit where credit was due.
I think Obama did a good job not saying anything about the hostage situation with the captain and I commend him for giving the order to the Navy Seals to do what they did. But still.....I think the heroes and the biggest thank yous need to go to the ones who risked their necks to save the captain.....and that would be the Navy Seals.
All in all, I don't like a lot of things that Obama has done. I know Bush didn't do us any favors in his 8 years either, but Obama is now in office and I do not like the way our country is heading.
As for not giving Obama any slack....how many of you people gave Bush slack on anything even when he did something good....cuz believe it or not.....he did some good things too. It goes both ways.
What we were taught though was to SING the Star Spangled Banner...sm
Hand over the heart and sing the words. It amazes me that not everyone does that, but that is what I was taught. Most people do not even know the words.
Respect has to be earned...it is not a God-given right!
You cannot demand respect, you must earn it! I have the right to respect or not to respect whomever I want! If you are one of the people I do not respect...too bad! Apparently, I do not feel you are worthy of my respect, which is my right!
if he was a farmer and earned sm
money from it he must have paid taxes and paid into SS somehow. If not, she would not be eligible for SS benefits.
DH and I have worked hard and have earned everything
that we have and WE should decide who to give it to, not Nobama. We are living the American Dream and will be penalized for it. If your child got all A's in school and the teacher told you that some kids got C's and B's and your child would have to give up some of their A's so the others would be on equal ground, would you object? Probably so. There is no incentive in socialism to work hard to acheive things when you can have the gov't provide everything for you. Don't you people know that you are playing right into the hand's of more gov't? You are being fed a bunch of lies and you won't even realize it until it is too late.
I think he has earned a bit more respect and credibility
so sue me.
My dad was one of the "fat cats." And he earned
and deserved every penny he made. Sometimes he took naps at work, sometimes he played cards at work, but that was the nature of his job. They wanted the skilled labor guys there in case they were needed. If they weren't needed, then oh well. You act as though they were goofing off and not doing their job. The reality is they were there to do their job when it was asked of them.
The guys and gals on the assembly line weren't doing their jobs half the time or were drunk or drinking when they came in and worked. Building cars while drunk. And if you want to know what the problem is with auto industry you don't have to look farther than Americans buying foreign made cars and the SUV.
Obama won't. Bush has earned
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AS IF BUSH EARNED RESPECT???
Oh now that was funny....thanks for the laugh, I needed that!!!!
But Bush is soooo bashable and he has earned
No matter how hard he ties to rewrite history and author his own legacy, he is destined to trump all previous contenders for the dubious distinction of the WORST president in history. You watch.
Respect is earned. John McCain can....
respect him if he wishes; I will respect him when he earns it.
I do, however, respect his accomplishments. He has truly lived the American dream. That is one of my problems with him. He knows that you can, through ambition and hard work, go anywhere you want in this country. No one helped him, no one redistributed wealth to help him. He should try to guide people to take the path he took, not take from others to pay people to stay where they are. THAT I would respect.
There was a lot about McCain that I did not like...however, I did trust him and respect his lifetime of service to this country.
Only time will tell (to quote OP) what an Obama presidency will do to....or for...the country.
sorry, he has not yet earned my respect and blind faith ..
I did not decide who to vote for until 3 days before the election.
This blind faith people are espousing for OBama scares me as much as SOME (not all) of OBama's ideas!
My biggest concern -- so many promises .. that always is a red flag to me.
We should by nature be hopeful but wary at the same time.
HE will have my undying blind faith and support once he earns it.
He has my respect for being in the office of president, and I will try to honor his wishes and comply with what he "changes" ...
Respectable? Hah! He hasn't even earned trust yet!
Give it a few months for the media orgy/love fest to end then the scandals will begin (quite a few already).The dems are already at each other throats....this is gonna be good!
Income between 31K and 63K ?
Poster tried to get you to read this before but obviously ignored by most. You might want to remember this at the polls......... This was just back in March when this was attempted by Obama.. your hero!
WASHINGTON - Presidential candidates John McCain, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton interrupted their campaign schedules to return to the Senate for votes on taxes and spending likely to become key points of contention in the race for the White House.
Votes on tax cuts and on a one-year ban on pet projects topped the Senate’s agenda before an expected late-night vote yesterday to pass a $3 trillion Democratic budget blueprint. The nonbinding plan predicts a balanced budget in four years and promises generous increases for many domestic programs, but achieves those goals only by assuming major tax increases when President Bush’s tax cuts expire in about three years. This was found out and release the morning after they tried to get this passed in the mddle of the night back in March.
Obama(D-Ill.) and Clinton (D-N.Y.) both promise to reverse Bush’s tax cuts for wealthier taxpayers, but the Democratic budget they’ll be voting for would allow income tax rates to go up on individuals making as little as $31,850 and couples earning $63,700 or more.
right - available to the low income -
You said that the insurance program to everyone would become a free program. That is not what it is. It is going to cost. My point was that Medicaid was already there as a government program for free.
Income tax
Rich are given lots of stuff for free. There is no way to hold them accountable to declare it all. Look at the goody bags they get at the award shows. They are worth tens of thousands of dollar. Only just recently has it been taxed.
It will be just like the income tax
1. They'll sell it "for a good cause". The income tax was supposed to be a temporary tax that was sold to the people on the basis of paying off war debts.
2. It will start off small and end up big.
3. It will never end.
4. It will prove incredibly burdensome to whoever has to actually keep all the records and submit the tax to government.
5. It will act as another drag on economic growth.
6. It will serve as yet another brake on the entrepreneurial engine that has always been unique to America.
If a tax revolt of one kind or another isn't coming, I'll eat your hat, with or without feathers. It's gone way past the point of ridiculous now.
I'm with you, sister! nm
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Sister, Sister.
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my sister was here
and she said she has big plans if Obama gets in... She and her husband are going to quit their jobs... she is going to have another baby... they are going to live on government assistance.... LOL..... you know, I seriously think there are people with that mindset. WOOHOO... I WON'T HAVE TO WORK AND LIVE IS GOING TO BE GRAND.... whatever.
My sister and the BIL
decided to move into the parents' place after the parents passed on. There was some (a lot of) rehab work to be done.
So she and I were patching and painting in the living room. BIL was working on cabinets in the kitchen. Sis and I were having a good time and laughing in there. Playing music, dancing and carrying on, but actually accomplishing what we needed to do. BIL actually came in and YELLED at us for having 'too much fun.' I believe he must have thought we were laughing at him. (Which actually we had not been, until he came in and made an absolute doofus of himself. After which we could hardly keep a straight face.)
Nope, he really never did not fit in. Fortunately, the humor gene was passed on to their daughter; must have been X chromosome linked.
My MT pay is certainly not the main income....
in this household. Sure, we could lose our jobs, however, we are quite prepared for something like that. We have an emergency fund in place that would last at least a year (a year's worth of mortgage and utilility payments), we don't have a car payment, all credit cards are paid off and we have CDs, retirement funds, etc. It's called planning for the future and planning for the unexpected. We have paid into unemployment, so of course we would take it if we had to.
It is based on income . . .
not on grades. You have to keep your grades up to keep receiving it, BUT the primary requirement to receive it is low income. So do you thing those who have done well for themselves should be required to give money to those who are below them if they are trying to do better? Because that is what is sounds like. As long as it is benefiting you, it is okay because you are trying to do better?
No matter how you slice it, you are still taking from those who have and giving it to havenots. Just stay consistent with your argument. Who is to say who HONESTLY deserves aid?
Well sure, look at the source of her income or
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this is phased out at $47,000-50,000 income nm
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One income already does not pay the bills! nm
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Amen my sister...NM
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Amen to that sister!!!!
Amen to that sister
I have a gay son who is a wonderful example of a human being and one of my favorite people in the world. I would hope that one day he could find a life partner to have a happy, loving life with and have the same rights as everyone else. I am sick to death of these closed-minded, ignorant, "all in the name of religion" fanatics who believe that this kind of love is a sin. HOW CAN AN EXPRESSION OF LOVE BETWEEN TWO CONSENTING ADULTS BE A SIN?!!! My God does not judge and condemn people that way.
AMEN SISTER!!!
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Can I again an AMEN sister . . .
These haters seem to forget where their ancestors came from and why they came in the first place!! Duh, is it because they wanted the opportunity to better their lives, or practice their religion freely? I wonder if when our forefathers wrote the Constitution they intended there to be an expiration date? And those same ancestors are the ones that came over here, killed all the Native Americans they could, and the ones they didn't forced them into their religion and then put them on reservations. Kind of sound like history repeating itself.
Amen, sister!
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you have never been to my sister's church
and she is not going to look for a different one either. You don't speak for God and neither do they.
These churches have their own agendas. Anybody can be brainwashed if they do not question authority.
Amen, sister!............nm
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Good for you - you tell them sister
I'm sorry for what you went through but sounds like you made the best of your situation and made the decisions necessary to survive.
Everyone should keep their nose out of every else's business. Nobody knows what other people are going through, hence they should mind their own business.
Yeah! Here you go, sister!...nm
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