So why does a future plumbing business owner
Posted By: need a publicity mgmt agent? sm on 2008-12-03
In Reply to: YOU have no facts. You believe what you want. - You are wrong, potato.nm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_the_plumber
BTW, he can't own a plumbing license without a license.
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No business owner in their
Come on...paying back the employees that actually do the work that makes the company succeed?? Creating an atmosphere that makes the employees feel that they have made a contribution to the success of the company and acknowledging their contribution in a financial manner...that is so 1950's.
I agree. As a business owner now, if
my taxes are raised, I'm just going to go to work for someone else and close my business down. ALL of my employees will lose their jobs, their benefits, their insurance.
It is the business owner's profit that he...sm
takes home after all expenses are paid.
And think of the small business owner...sm
The SBO who has a small staff, who then would have a jump in payroll but no jump in income, unless of course he raises prices, but the SBO already has trouble competing with the huge box/chain stores. Raising the min wage ends up screwing the SBO who are the backbone of free enterprise in this country.
It's not propaganda. I know one small business owner...sm
who says he will have to do this, should he get over that hurdle of his business growing to being over 250,000, he will then have to pay more taxes under Obama, and won't be able to. I believe him when he tells me this. I've heard other similar stories in the news (and not Joe the plumber either).
Why must you call it propaganda, when some of us know real, live people who run these businesses, who will be forced to cut back on employees, and/or decide not to expand. They won't be able to put money back into their business to grow it because they'll be taxed to death. and may eventually go out of business or go elsewhere, because they won't be able to afford being in business under Obama.
These are real people, with real concerns, not propaganda.
That's why a lot of them are voting for McCain next month.
Kenya has no business in the business of the U.S.
I may be an idjit myself and I am certainly the most cynical of the cynical. While I'm about it, I think Obama's mom was a bit of an idjit for making the decisions she made in life but I guess that was her business.
As for GWB, he certainly does deserve some discussion. Like why did he not straight away pardon those 2 border patrol agents who were the target of the worst miscarriage of justice I have personally ever seen? Could there be something synister there? I think so.
I am most certainly NOT a liberal and by the heart of conservatives, I am NOT a conservative either. I do agree with them (if they really believe it) that abortion and gay marriage are wrong. HOWEVER, my opinion being stated, I believe those are moral issues and as such belong to God and not the government. I also do not believe God requires my assistance in passing judgement on them.
Soooo....with all the problems we were facing, t here are many more important issues than Obama's birth certificate. I drug my feet in voting for Obama but I do have a glimmer of hope that he is working to at least get some plan in place for the day he is inaugerated. Everyone deserves a chance. The American people have spoken so it's time to put this b/c nonissue to rest and get to the business of importance...like millions of people projected to be unemployed and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, which if something isn't done and soon we are headed for the worst times most of you have ever seen and you'll have enough to worry about just wondering how you're going to put food on the table.
The owner is responsible for her pet.
I do not hate cats, but I don't particularly like them either. And I especially do not like doing my puttering in my flower bed and unearthing a nice fresh pile of cat poo. It's disgusting. But back to the issue at hand. Is there a reason why this woman cannot keep this cat in the house? Other than the fact that she is secretly enjoying this in some perverse way? It's really pretty simple. Keep. The. Cat. In. The. House. Period.
It was probably the previous owner.
Geez.
Are you the new board owner? I must have missed that. nm
I say at the very least the owner should get some kind of punishment.
I hate cats. They poop all in my flower beds, kill my baby birds and baby squirrels and prey on my mourning doves. We live on a farm and we have cats that people dump out here. We catch them and take them to the pound when we can, but I just can't stand them. Cat bites are really bad and cause a lot of illness. I don't blame these people for having had enough. If she can't keep him in the house, he needs to go or she needs a heavy heavy fine. It's not funny and it's not cute.
I can't refinance it as a rental. It has to be owner..
occupied to refinance a mobile home.
I can't refinance it as a rental. It has to be owner..
occupied to refinance a mobile home. And, since my husband is in the Navy and no longer stationed in Washington--I can't refinance it unless I fall behind on payments and take the government's out.
If the certain owner of the certain ranch did open up his home...sm
I'd vote for him if he could run again.
Not gonna happen though.
Not only him though, it is too much wealth in America for these people to have no where to go. Just my opinion....
Future
Lesbian couples use artificial insemination now. Why would the future make any difference? In return, they could be surrogates for gay male couples. sorry just don't follow your reasoning.
the future
I am amazed at how many psychics we have on this board. I have never seen so many people who can predict what the future holds for our country.
I'm also shocked to learn that only right-wing conservatives and others who vote for McCain/Palin are the only ones who care about our country.
Thanks for clearing things up for me.
If you want to know the future
Read up on the Lincoln presidency.
Last night on Charlie Rose guests called Obama obsessed with Lincoln and determined to not let us down.
So read up, I am sure there were no "everybody gets a goodie bag" lines with him, but I will read up and find out exactly what he did do if that is my president's hero.
This is concerning. This is about the future of our
After all, Obama stated he wanted to become president for his children and for other children. Oh, I guess I must be wrong.
How can you say this? Can you see into the future? ...nm
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Yes, madam QA.....I will be sure I do so in the future...
pardon the heck out of me. :)
future wrongdoing
And since when can you predict the future? LMAO!!
Past and future
Stop dwelling in the PAST.
Look into the FUTURE.
The last past 8 years did not work for anybody.
What we need is change. REAL change.
Summon it up, we do not need
your pagelong lectures. Who has time for this?
The election is tomorrow, thanks God.
Go, Obama!
Thanks, GP, let's all have hope for a better future.....nm
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If a brighter future ever comes your way
to recognize it.
I wish I was hopeful for the future.
I am actually not proud to be an American. I actually want to move to another country, maybe Canada, Switzerland, Italy, Ireland? US scares me now with all these human rights. I wish it was back in the 50's.
Maybe not but our future could have started 5-1/2 years ago.
Bush's policies in all areas are making it look pretty bleak. 
It is nice to look to the future and not the past.
You are quite wrong about my stance on Vietnam. Don't make the presumption that you know me at all.
One thing that I do know is that you cannot change the past. You want to bog yourself down with useless information knock yourself out. Our government tends to not pay attention to those details of the past in the way they operate today. If they did, Bush would have never invaded Iraq. Perhaps you are making your speeches to the wrong audience? You will never convince a liberal that war is just.
As I have stated before, I am strictly anti-war, no matter who, what, where, and why. War does nothing but fund hate and line pockets of men who profit from them and kills the innocent as an after thought, and it's excused because, hey, that's war isn't it?
The longer our troops stay in Iraq, the more hate it is going to foster. This military pseudo occupation has to stop and the humanitarian effort needs to start, period.
Or better yet, why don't you go there and explain to the Iraqi people and our military men and women who are doing their fourth or fifth tour and tell them why they are still there. There's your audience, try and convince them.
And this makes any wrongdoing in the future okay???
OH BROTHER.
Sorry, Moderator...I will be more careful in the future.
Thank you for deleting it, thereby letting me know it was inappropriate. Again, I apologize.
Exactly, you don't equate future president with
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"I am sorry your future is so dark and meaningless"
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O was elected the future president, so....sm
the only thing that we can do NOW is sit back and WAIT for O's actions.
But give him ROOM FOR ACTION, without criticizing every little decision.
You know, he IS the future president, time to accept it and, as Kaydie's father states, to adapt to it.
John McCain's future
After seeing Cindy smooching some biker dude, maybe John should check in at home more often.
the future of imported items
anything imported, which is basically everything will cost more next year or will simply be unavailable. Manufacturing orders are down for China, inventories are shrinking at retail stores. Even Wal-Mart is cutting back on inventories. I was in a Super Walmart the other day and one half of the store was full, the grocery and clothes half. The rest of the store was abandoned.
AIG/Future of American Healthcare
I've written a few times on this board that I think employers and insurance companies should be completely taken out of the picture when it comes to healthcare, that our very lives shouldn't be profit-driven commodities.
In my opinion, what's happening at AIG with greedy executives gives us a window into what could happen again (or probably already is happening) with health insurance companies.
I did a quick Google search and found the following two articles that address this. The first link is more current and probably the better of the two links, but the second is worth reading, as well. There may be better ones out there, but I didn't have much time to do my search, and these are two that caught my attention. If you find others, please post them.
It seems to me that before a new healthcare plan is implemented for Americans, we need to insure (no pun) that greedy executives can never do this again to Americans, particularly if our very ability to live or die lies in the balance.
I plan on writing my Congressman and Senator. I DON'T plan on having my concerns taken seriously (or even being read, for that matter).
Can you imagine -- just for a moment -- how much money could be saved by eliminating the profit factor in healthcare? It might just pay for a new healthcare care system itself, or at least put a big dent into the cost of one.
http://blogs.webmd.com/mad-about-medicine/2007/08/ceo-compensation-who-said-healthcare-is.html
http://www.harp.org/hmoexecs.htm
Well, if teabagging is in your future, you might have to get on those knees, anyway.
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If you CARED about your country and its future,
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Totally excited - He gives us hope for a better future
Obama is the first candidate in my entire life that gives me hope of getting our country back on track. Here is why I am against Clinton and as a citizen will never vote for her (it just goes against all my beliefs as a human being and how I think other human beings should be treated). Here are some of the quotes she had made in the past. There are way too many so will limit it to just a few. I know I was sick after reading these....
“We just can’t trust the American people to make those types of choices, Government has to make those choices for people “ - Hillary to Rep. Dennis Hasert in 1993 discussing her expensive, disastrous taxpayer-funded health care plan.
“You know, I’m going to start thanking the woman who cleans the restroom in the building I work in. I’m going to start thinking of her as a human being”
“I am a fan of the social policies that you find in Europe ”
“If you want to remain on this detail, get your f***ing *ss over here and grab those bags!” - Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident.
“F***ing Jew Bast**d. – Hillary’s remarks about Fray (who ran Bill’s campaign) while in a rage after Bill’s run for congress failed. This slur was heard by many people.
“Where is the G-da**ed f***ing flag? I want the G-dam**d f***ing flag up every f***ing morning at f***ing sunrise.” – Hillary to the staff at the Arkansas Governor’s mansion on Labor Day, 1991
“F*** off! It’s enough that I have to see you sh**-kickers every day, I’m not going to talk to you too!! Just do your G*dam job and keep your mouth shut.” - Hillary to her State Trooper body guards after one of them greeted her with “Good Morning.”
Her rages continued when she moved into the white house and the secret service more than once had to pull her off of her husband after she attacked him.
And this is the thing that people actually want running the country? Sheesh! That's enough to make me sick. I live in America, not some country being run by a socialist - just say NO to Clinton.
Any suggestions on how to keep my sanity if she actually does become president? I've thought about citizenship to another country but not sure if that would solve anything.
At age 60, I'll hand over the future of my children
They deserve at least that much, since they will end up bankrolling the deficit debt left behind by W and 90% for generations to come. We are leaving them a world WORSE off than the one we inherited from our parents for the first time in US history. My vote goes to O, skeletons and all.
We need to vote as if our entire future depends on it,
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Speculation over her future role in the R party
This kind of ignorance is no bash...unless former candidates can inflict them upon themselves. Let's make a deal. Palin will be a bash-free zone just as soon as Obama is. When election politics dries up from the board, Palin comments will follow in kind. Don't hold your breath.
But here is another question, if you make NO INVESTMENTS in the future....sm
how do you expect to prosper and make money for the future of our country? I am the first to agree that there are things in this package that i believe should have been yanked out of there, but there are many sound investments in our future, in education, in health care, in securing our borders, in job programs, etc. If you hide a dollar under your mattress, in ten years you will still have that same wrinkled up old dollar. But make an investment with that money, and you at least have a chance at growing some of your investments, and growing the future of this country. Why were you not screaming when W. was literally blowing up piles of money in Iraq????
At tea party 9 year old says he is worried about his future.
Host asked him if he skipped school today to attend and he said yes. The host then asked if he really wanted to be there because of how he felt or if he just wanted to skip school and the kid truthful said about half of each. Hehe.
Roberts: Iraq Will Affect Future War Votes
Fool me once, shame on you....etc.
I feel better knowing Congress is smart enough to not believe BU_ _ SH _ _ twice from this farce of a president.
Roberts: Iraq Will Affect Future War Votes
Experience With Faulty Data Has Made Senators More Wary, Panel Chairman Says
By Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, November 14, 2005; A04
The Republican chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence said yesterday that one lesson of the faulty prewar intelligence on Iraq is that senators would take a hard look at intelligence before voting to go to war.
I think a lot of us would really stop and think a moment before we would ever vote for war or to go and take military action, Sen. Pat Roberts (Kan.) said on Fox News Sunday.
We don't accept this intelligence at face value anymore, he added. We get into preemptive oversight and do digging in regards to our hard targets.
He said that agreement has been reached on the Phase 2 review that the intelligence panel is doing to look into whether the Bush administration exaggerated or misused prewar intelligence. The review may not be finished this year, he said.
The intelligence panel vice chairman, Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), also appearing on Fox, called the review absolutely useful because if it is the fact that they [the Bush administration] created intelligence or shaped intelligence in order to bring American opinion along to support them in going to war, that's a really bad thing -- it should not ever be repeated.
Appearing on CNN's Late Edition, national security adviser Stephen J. Hadley said the White House is supporting the study, adding: I think that what you're going to find is that the statements by the administration had backing at the time from accepted intelligence sources.
He said that when administration statements turned out to be wrong, that was because the underlying intelligence was not true, but that's not the same as manipulating intelligence, and that is not misleading the American people.
Sen. Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.), appearing with Roberts on Late Edition, said that Iraq became the center of terrorism after the March 2003 invasion.
I'm afraid we're going to see Iraq is not only the center of the war on terror, which it was not before we attacked Iraq, but now it is going to, I'm afraid, export it.
He added that Iraq has become the heartland of terrorism. It was not before we attacked.
Levin, a member of both the Senate intelligence committee and Armed Services Committee, has been a leading critic of the Bush administration's handling of the war.
Levin also said that the United States must get allies, as many as we can, including in the Muslim world because this is a form of fanatic Islam which has to be defeated by the moderate Islamic people.
In a column in yesterday's Washington Post, former senator John Edwards (N.C.), the Democratic vice presidential candidate in 2004, said the failures of the Bush administration turned Iraq into a far greater threat than it ever was. It is now a haven for terrorists [and] has made fighting the global war on terrorist organizations more difficult rather than less.
The president and his senior aides have said since before the invasion that Washington went to war primarily because Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and was a threat to the United States and its neighbors because of his connection to terrorists. Once fighting began, they argued that Iraq was the central front in the battle against terrorism.
In his Veterans Day speech on Friday, the president turned his original argument around, saying, The terrorists regard Iraq as the central front in their war against humanity, and therefore, We must recognize Iraq as the central front in our war against the terrorists.
Yeah, you're right; I'll try to ignore them in the future.
Yes, that's what you're doing. Predicting the future and turning a blind eye
Losing your parental rights is a reality in the near future.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=87929
First Iraq and now Bush leaves New Orleans rebuilding to future President.
Bush: New Orleans may need a decade
NEW ORLEANS, Aug. 28 (UPI) -- As he headed for the Gulf Coast on Monday, U.S. President George Bush told an interviewer he expects the rebuilding of New Orleans to take a decade.
Bush planned to spend the anniversary of the U.S. Gulf Coast landfall of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans after a visit to Biloxi, Miss. It was his 13th visit to the devastated area.
We can rebuild buildings, the question is can we rebuild its soul, he told April Ryan of American Urban Radio Networks. We can. I believe, 10 years from now April, you and I will be thinking about our time here, and trying to remember what it was like 10 years ago
Bush came under fire last year for apparently ignoring Katrina immediately after New Orleans flooded and then flying over the city in Air Force One.
Later White House spokeswoman Dana Perrino said she wasn't aware of a specific time period but that the president has said all along that it would take more than a year to rebuild New Orleans.
In terms of like, 10 years, I don't know about exact time frame, but it's certainly going to take several years, Perrino said.
Bristol's future MIL arrested on 6 counts of felony drug charges.
Palins can't seem to catch a break this past week.
It is none of your business!
Mind your own business.
of course it's our business, she put herself in this
to be under a microscope.
I think that they will go out of business
when any baby boomer without insurance goes out and buys it once he/she has been diagnosed with cancer. Then, when your child needs insurance, there will be no money left to pay for him/her.
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