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Starcat, there have been nameless trolls on these boards for years. sm

Posted By: sm on 2005-10-14
In Reply to: Thanks to you both; yesterday's - incident made it clear ...sm - Starcat

Democrat knows it, too.  Or she has a very short memory.  I am just setting the record straight here, because I am really tired of all this innocent why is everyone picking on us posting here. 


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I can't, because they choose to remain nameless
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Add 3 more to the nameless troll category. So much for a truce. nm

What it probably is....is the ongoing effort of those who shall remain nameless...
but have a lot to gain by Obama losing this election.
Assuming I am the nameless one....and also for the umpteenth time...
not a Republican...I call Barack Obama a socialist because he is one, not because he supports social programs (the accused Republicans do also, to a point, otherwise there would be none), but because he wants to practice redistribution of wealth...taaxing one group of people and redistributing that money to people who did nothing to earn it...including people who already do not pay taxes.

I never said Obama was a communist. He has had communist influences in his life, that is proven, he mentions the man in his book Dreams of My Father. But I have never said Barack Obama was a communist. I don't know if he is or not. I do know he is a socialist.
The trolls appear to be gone anyway. Why leave now?
ta dum
The trolls are out to tonight..the trolls are out tonight
When they smell blood in the water they come swimming.
Don't feed the trolls
Makes them stay around too long :-)
One with fewer trolls than here, to be sure.
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Thanks and welcome Starcat! nm
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Yes, welcome, Starcat.
I enjoy your posts very much.  Thanks, and please keep posting. 
Thanks Starcat!
My daughter is holding together. the baby of course doesnt understand..She is visiting her mom-in-law now and then is coming here for a few months while she decides what to do. She is lost and so sad it breaks my heart. Since it looks like finally this country is waking up to the mess this admin has made, Im praying every night this ends before many more have to deal with what my daughter is dealing with. Looks like a lot of the Rep corruption is comingto light tho..Delay, Abramoff etc. So maybe there is some hope :)

I did get to spend LOTS of quality time with my grandson in the last month. what a pistol! I can say with complete confidence that I am right (as all grandparents are) that that baby is the cutest smartest kid ever in the known history of the universe :)
O, know, Starcat!
Now ewe have Nina hott on you're trale!!!  Quik!  Run four kover!!!  She iz a haitful won!!!
Thanks, Starcat.

It's an excellent article, definitely worth the read and just gives even more insight into how Bush thinks he is perfect and can make no mistakes, and if anyone dares to criticize him, they get canned.  The same thing happened with the first guy he hired to write his biography, a long-time family friend of the Bushes, Mickey Herskowitz.  Same kind of *swift-boating* pattern and punitive actions toward someone else who tried to tell the truth.  Here's the link: 


http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050620/why_george_went_to_war.php


Starcat is one of your own
and if France is so right why did we have to save their arses from Hitler? France right? Shows how distored your view of France is
Thanks Starcat :-)
It was very relaxing.  I shot a couple deer (with my 35-mm Minolta).  Almost got a bear, but he got a little too close for comfort and I chickened out and ran inside the cabin with my camera.  LoL.  There's nothing around for miles, and although I would have appreciated running water and no outhouse, the inconvenience was well worth it.  I hope I can get back in the fall again to feel that crisp air and see those beautiful colors.
Did you count the unnamed trolls?
Since you're into counting....that makes up the majority of the trolling that goes on on the conservative board.
There are more trolls over here lately, and driveby posters...sm
And some of them even post how amused they are to come over here and dump on us. I guess this is their only source of amusement in a day is starting a fight on the liberal board. Whatever floats their boats?!?!?!
I doubt it; trolls like you are always around no matter
many times you are told not to come here by the Moderator. Geez, get a life.
Trolls we may be, but the toilet part
Maybe instead of the White House a better name would be the Outhouse. HA HA HA
Excuse me, starcat said it

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In defense of Starcat...
Not that s/he needs defending but I think the general concensus amongst we liberals is what the heck is it going to take for some of you on the right to admit that this administration has gone too far too many times.  As the bumper sticker says, if you are not outraged, you have not been paying attention. It is just one thing after another after another and in my neck of the woods, you can't prove the economy is getting better or more jobs are being created either. Southwest Florida is a service community. If it were not for tourism our local economy would not survive. We are accustomed to people working for $6.15 an hour at service jobs. It has been that way a long time. Another one of those jobs created here or there is not cause for celebration. It's business as ususal. The University of Miami is in an uproar now, secondary to the STUDENTS' demands that the janitorial staff be paid a living wage. Thank God young people are getting it. The University of Miami is the fifth richest college in the US. I myself am not sure what that means...the student population comes from the wealthiest homes, the tuition is the fifth highest. Their budget is the fifth highest. I am really not sure what that means but I do know that the students found out their janitoral staff made $6-something an hour, no benefits and no raises in the last 5 years. They were shocked and have been bringing this to light, to the press. It seems that Miami contracts these jobs out (what a surprise) to the private sector and so they pass the buck to the contractors who say they can do whatever they like. The students are saying this is despicable and so on....anyway, I am rambling here, sorry, but my point is horrific abuses of power are happening one after another, the economy and the job situation are not getting better where it counts and that is in the paychecks and the benefits of ordinary Americans who are losing jobs in droves, working at low-paying, no benefits jobs, cannot afford to buy insurance, cannot afford to pay gas prices, watching billions being spent on a war of choice that has become an embarrassment even to Republicans, watching our elected officials lie, Swiftboat anyone who disagrees with them, put undercover people in harm's way, eavesdrop on  their own citizens, torture their detainees, and on and on and on. Our point is, what will it take for you to finally see what a debacle this administration is? What will it take for you to care that worldwide the United States and Bush are a joke or that an American city has been wiped out, promised the WPA on steroids and not a thing is being done, people are homeless by the thousands in LA, Mississippi and here in Florida and not only because of the hurricanes. What will it take??
Aw, Starcat, kut her a brake!
She gradyouated from the George W. Bush Skewl of Litterassy. 
Thanks for the laughs, Starcat. nm

Difficult to tell, Starcat
Your post was not very clear - glad you are not anti-French
I think this board has the market cornered on trolls. NM

Bye, Administrator. You have refused to control them, and your trolls have won.

You've been unable or unwilling to control these pests.  They refuse to stay on their own Conservative board because they're not happy unless they are personally attacking posters.


I can't begin to speculate how many other people you've lost because of this hateful group, but you've lost me.


To any thinking, intelligent people out there who woul like to visit a GOOD site where abusive trolls can be IGNORED, please visit Bill Maher's site.  The topics and information are limitless, freedom of speech is guaranteed for ALL, and although there are a few hateful people there, it's nothing compared to the hate and anger and rage that is found on this board.  You don't have to be subjected to personal attacks in a street gang mentality that happens here because you can simply click the ignore button.  All in all, I believe a truer, better representation of what America really is can be found there.


Bye, all. 


Democrat, you don't really expect fair from these trolls, do you?
They can't even stay off the liberal board let alone not attack. It's all the same old stuff...whining about *the left this and the left that* blah blah blah...I appreciate your optimism, but at this point it's probably waaaaaaaaay too much to hope for.
Toilet talking trolls unite!
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Excellent post, Starcat. (SM)
I suggest we don't feed the trolls.  They thrive on it.  I personally don't want to encourage them. 
Great post, Starcat!

My rule of thumb is to compare the credibility of Bush and Sergeant Major Haney.  Bush lies to me on practically a daily basis, so my inclination and common sense tells me to believe the Sergeant Major.


I often wonder if we will have another *terror* attack (maybe a small nuclear one) in order to (a) justify a nuclear war with Iran and/or (b) to frighten people into believing (before the November elections, with an instantaneous government *response*) that Republicans are the only ones who can keep us safe (if it looks like they will lose control of the House and Senate). 


I guess time will tell, and I pray that no more Americans will have to die.


To Starcat....GREAT POST...sm

Yours was a GREAT post.  I believe the entire thing was a scam and I am an evacuee of an airport *newark NJ* on 9/11 a.m.


Everything you said, about the warnings during the elections and then after the elections, all the warnings stopped...hit the nail on the head!!


The poster under us says that they think we are in the minority.......NOT SO....just today we have to shut our mouths.......because BIG BROTHER is watching.


This president is just plain stupid....do you see all the things that come out of his mouth?  David Letterman shows them, Jay Leno shows them, Conon O'Brien shows them....et al, ad nauseum.  Bush is an EMBARRASSMENT to ALL OF US, and for the ones who cannot *see* this?  Something is wrong with them too.


GREAT POST, Starcat!!!


GMTA = great minds think alike


Starcat, they are not true conservatives.sm
We do not support Bush. I wish everyone would just take the time to do some research on these political candidates, not only would you not vote for them, they would scare the hell out of you. I can tell by some posts on here that some have. We need to be united to get our country back, not fighting.
Trolls like YOU (and the lack of an ignore button) are the reasons

I can't stand it here any more.  You do nothing but troll this board, stalk and attack posters.  You add nothing of an intelligent or substantive nature to anything you post.  Coming to this board used to be nice, but now it's like standing in a field as flies leave a nearby manure pile and suddenly hover around me and my friends, and I wind up spending too much time swatting them away.  You simply can't be nice and civil to people.  Nobody wants to subject themselves to that all the time. You've been relentless in your attacks against gt, and all it does is make you look like a horrible person, whether you realize it or not.


As far as debate, I'd love to debate issues, but personal attacks based on one's views is NOT debate, and that's all you do.


Here's an example of a post on Maher's board by an intelligent conservative who I believe I could learn a lot from.  Note the EXTREME difference in this person's communication skills, compared to yours and those of your ilk on this board. 


This poster generates interest and respect.  Your posts generate disgust.


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The Republicans Here Are Fake





I just came to this board today. I watched Real Time with Bill Maher for the first time last night and really enjoy it. While I do not agree with him on his views, I enjoy listening to politcal arguments and he does make strong cases.

I have been a life long Republican and served on numerous state campaigns as both a volunteer and paid worker. I know the value of a true debate and what it yields.

I searched for Bill Maher this morning and immediatley found this board. I have spent the last couple hours reading through countless posts and views of people from both sides of the political aisle. It is truly a shocking and numbing experience.

I see that most from the left provide a rational view and expressed opinions, but then I see the right has no true representation here. I have come across a few posters that say they are Republicans, but as a Republican I can assure you they do not stand for our parties beliefs.

A couple of the names I have seen include; helloinfidels, ketchupholic, mudwhistle, and theraceman.

While I am only passing by, I wanted to share with you my views on these individuals, as a person with a strong politcal background. I have a few explanations into the actions of these individuals and would like to post them for you.

-These people only argue because they purely like to argue with no goal in mind except to upset other.

-These individuals are truly Democrats, posing as Republicans in an attempt to smear the Republican party

- These people truly do not know what the Republican party stands for

In any of the above cases, we would rather they not try to represent our party, as they are actually mis-representing it.

I have been a member of numerous political forums, and I assure you that we would not allow any of these people to exist on our boards. They give no basis of fact with their arguments and only make them to hear themselves self promote a disturbing agenda.

I hope the majority of the people on here do not lend credit to their foolish assertions and realize they represent no party in this country.

Thank you for hearing from me and I look forward to some civil political debate on here without the rhetoric those few seem to rely upon.

I agree. Trolls dont even deserve a response.
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Starcat made a very valid point.

You don't tolerate irresponsibility when it comes to pet owners (which I agree with, by the way), yet you seem to welcome it when it comes to your political party.  One has to ask why you continue to sing the praises of and support the most irresponsible administration in US history, yet you express outrage about a cat owner.  Just doesn't make sense.


And as far as you being tolerant, one only needs to take a quick look at the conservative board to see how laughable that really is.  You and your cohorts post the most intolerant posts I've ever seen anywhere on the internet.


I do agree with you about pet owners being responsible.  I am a pet owner and keep my pets under control simply because I love them and want to keep them safe. 


It has already been demonstrated that the two boards cannot mix.
To answer your question, no, I don't like to hang out with people who espouse my point of view, but the sniping was totally out of hand and no logical debate was taking place.  I go to other web sites for that kind of debate.
That is if political boards like this are
allowed to remain in existence when Obama's regime takes over.
I posted it on some other boards that
I visit that have a lot of traffic, so hopefully that will get a lot of signatures. I also forwarded it to my friends & family & asked that they sign & forward it. So many people have no idea this is happening. One comment on the petition site said something to the effect of we shouldn't start doing that... 'START' doing it! They have no idea how long it's been going on!
For this you have to wait at least 3 years and 8 months , maybe 7 years and 8 mohths...nm
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Okay. Thanks. I understand now. Different rules for different boards.
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The administrator did not say we could not post on other boards. sm
She said to be respectful.  Tell me where in my post I was disrespectful.   Why not get off of this and start an intelligent debate instead of whole threads crying about being kicked out of the sandbox.  
I never called anyone on these boards a liar. SM
That word is used and abused by many on this board though. Not by me.
What exactly does this have to do with lying on chat boards. nm

Some truth about ISP and message boards
Hey Observer, you are right to be concerned. ISPs are certainly available to administrators so that they can ban certain parties if they want to. This is not normally a problem if the administrator and monitors are fair and impartial, and posters stick to the rules.

We've seen in the past here however that certain folks had the ear of the Politics moderator and this led to vindictive bannings that shouldn't have happened in a fair forum. Some people were allowed to get away with abuse while others were banned for simply asking that they not be abused.

In all fairness to the moderator and administrator, however, they devised this new forum format and since that has happened, there's been very little interference and things seem a lot more equitable. I admit I haven't read down the posting list yet to see what you're referring to, so we'll see about that:)

I think the tighy Righties got very used to being able to bait, insult, and then kick off anyone they wanted and they really enjoyed it. Now they're screaming because people can actually talk back to them and give them a few doses of their own sour medicine. Regardless of what the posts below say, I for one thank the administrator and moderator for making this fairer play possible as much as they have.
That's why there are 2 boards for the conservatives who like the "yes man"
debates. I suggest to the people who don't like liberal ways go there. They will be able to high five and keep hope alive with the Bush yeppers and congregation.
I have visited a lot of chat boards.
But I have to say that of all the venomous and hateful posters, you are the winner.  Most of the boards I frequent would have banned you a long long time ago.  And that is left and right.  It's says something about the administrator and fairness that they allow you to continue to post.  I have no problem with differing viewpoints, it's just that you state yours in immature and horrific ways.  I never say someone so consumed with hatred.  It really must suck to be you.
The administrator came on ONCE not REPEATEDLY and she came on all boards.
She did not say to stay off the boards.  She said not to slam posters.  Now, if you can manage to take a second of your time and check out the conservative board, you will see the same thing is taking place there.  The only difference is that they are not whining about it.  Get real.
From looking on both boards, both sides are guilty.
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Things are dead on both these boards
because posters who have any interest in rational debate have either been driven away or have easily found better places to go for discussion. Congratulations.
Already been discussed on both boards. Catch up. nm
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I have read Sir Percy on other boards.
His posts are disturbing, and I absolutely do not mean they are disturbing in a thought provoking way.