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Starcat, they are not true conservatives.sm

Posted By: Donna on 2006-06-01
In Reply to: No, you don't tolerate anyone - other than a con - sm - Starcat

We do not support Bush. I wish everyone would just take the time to do some research on these political candidates, not only would you not vote for them, they would scare the hell out of you. I can tell by some posts on here that some have. We need to be united to get our country back, not fighting.


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Your statement was *they* are not true conservatives.
I was merely asking who *they* are. 
Thanks and welcome Starcat! nm
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Yes, welcome, Starcat.
I enjoy your posts very much.  Thanks, and please keep posting. 
Thanks Starcat!
My daughter is holding together. the baby of course doesnt understand..She is visiting her mom-in-law now and then is coming here for a few months while she decides what to do. She is lost and so sad it breaks my heart. Since it looks like finally this country is waking up to the mess this admin has made, Im praying every night this ends before many more have to deal with what my daughter is dealing with. Looks like a lot of the Rep corruption is comingto light tho..Delay, Abramoff etc. So maybe there is some hope :)

I did get to spend LOTS of quality time with my grandson in the last month. what a pistol! I can say with complete confidence that I am right (as all grandparents are) that that baby is the cutest smartest kid ever in the known history of the universe :)
O, know, Starcat!
Now ewe have Nina hott on you're trale!!!  Quik!  Run four kover!!!  She iz a haitful won!!!
Thanks, Starcat.

It's an excellent article, definitely worth the read and just gives even more insight into how Bush thinks he is perfect and can make no mistakes, and if anyone dares to criticize him, they get canned.  The same thing happened with the first guy he hired to write his biography, a long-time family friend of the Bushes, Mickey Herskowitz.  Same kind of *swift-boating* pattern and punitive actions toward someone else who tried to tell the truth.  Here's the link: 


http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050620/why_george_went_to_war.php


Starcat is one of your own
and if France is so right why did we have to save their arses from Hitler? France right? Shows how distored your view of France is
Thanks Starcat :-)
It was very relaxing.  I shot a couple deer (with my 35-mm Minolta).  Almost got a bear, but he got a little too close for comfort and I chickened out and ran inside the cabin with my camera.  LoL.  There's nothing around for miles, and although I would have appreciated running water and no outhouse, the inconvenience was well worth it.  I hope I can get back in the fall again to feel that crisp air and see those beautiful colors.
Excuse me, starcat said it

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In defense of Starcat...
Not that s/he needs defending but I think the general concensus amongst we liberals is what the heck is it going to take for some of you on the right to admit that this administration has gone too far too many times.  As the bumper sticker says, if you are not outraged, you have not been paying attention. It is just one thing after another after another and in my neck of the woods, you can't prove the economy is getting better or more jobs are being created either. Southwest Florida is a service community. If it were not for tourism our local economy would not survive. We are accustomed to people working for $6.15 an hour at service jobs. It has been that way a long time. Another one of those jobs created here or there is not cause for celebration. It's business as ususal. The University of Miami is in an uproar now, secondary to the STUDENTS' demands that the janitorial staff be paid a living wage. Thank God young people are getting it. The University of Miami is the fifth richest college in the US. I myself am not sure what that means...the student population comes from the wealthiest homes, the tuition is the fifth highest. Their budget is the fifth highest. I am really not sure what that means but I do know that the students found out their janitoral staff made $6-something an hour, no benefits and no raises in the last 5 years. They were shocked and have been bringing this to light, to the press. It seems that Miami contracts these jobs out (what a surprise) to the private sector and so they pass the buck to the contractors who say they can do whatever they like. The students are saying this is despicable and so on....anyway, I am rambling here, sorry, but my point is horrific abuses of power are happening one after another, the economy and the job situation are not getting better where it counts and that is in the paychecks and the benefits of ordinary Americans who are losing jobs in droves, working at low-paying, no benefits jobs, cannot afford to buy insurance, cannot afford to pay gas prices, watching billions being spent on a war of choice that has become an embarrassment even to Republicans, watching our elected officials lie, Swiftboat anyone who disagrees with them, put undercover people in harm's way, eavesdrop on  their own citizens, torture their detainees, and on and on and on. Our point is, what will it take for you to finally see what a debacle this administration is? What will it take for you to care that worldwide the United States and Bush are a joke or that an American city has been wiped out, promised the WPA on steroids and not a thing is being done, people are homeless by the thousands in LA, Mississippi and here in Florida and not only because of the hurricanes. What will it take??
Aw, Starcat, kut her a brake!
She gradyouated from the George W. Bush Skewl of Litterassy. 
Thanks for the laughs, Starcat. nm

Difficult to tell, Starcat
Your post was not very clear - glad you are not anti-French
Excellent post, Starcat. (SM)
I suggest we don't feed the trolls.  They thrive on it.  I personally don't want to encourage them. 
Great post, Starcat!

My rule of thumb is to compare the credibility of Bush and Sergeant Major Haney.  Bush lies to me on practically a daily basis, so my inclination and common sense tells me to believe the Sergeant Major.


I often wonder if we will have another *terror* attack (maybe a small nuclear one) in order to (a) justify a nuclear war with Iran and/or (b) to frighten people into believing (before the November elections, with an instantaneous government *response*) that Republicans are the only ones who can keep us safe (if it looks like they will lose control of the House and Senate). 


I guess time will tell, and I pray that no more Americans will have to die.


To Starcat....GREAT POST...sm

Yours was a GREAT post.  I believe the entire thing was a scam and I am an evacuee of an airport *newark NJ* on 9/11 a.m.


Everything you said, about the warnings during the elections and then after the elections, all the warnings stopped...hit the nail on the head!!


The poster under us says that they think we are in the minority.......NOT SO....just today we have to shut our mouths.......because BIG BROTHER is watching.


This president is just plain stupid....do you see all the things that come out of his mouth?  David Letterman shows them, Jay Leno shows them, Conon O'Brien shows them....et al, ad nauseum.  Bush is an EMBARRASSMENT to ALL OF US, and for the ones who cannot *see* this?  Something is wrong with them too.


GREAT POST, Starcat!!!


GMTA = great minds think alike


Starcat made a very valid point.

You don't tolerate irresponsibility when it comes to pet owners (which I agree with, by the way), yet you seem to welcome it when it comes to your political party.  One has to ask why you continue to sing the praises of and support the most irresponsible administration in US history, yet you express outrage about a cat owner.  Just doesn't make sense.


And as far as you being tolerant, one only needs to take a quick look at the conservative board to see how laughable that really is.  You and your cohorts post the most intolerant posts I've ever seen anywhere on the internet.


I do agree with you about pet owners being responsible.  I am a pet owner and keep my pets under control simply because I love them and want to keep them safe. 


Starcat, there have been nameless trolls on these boards for years. sm
Democrat knows it, too.  Or she has a very short memory.  I am just setting the record straight here, because I am really tired of all this innocent why is everyone picking on us posting here. 
No conservatives either
The last time I looked at cons board there were no conservatives there either, just extreme right-wing nuts.
I mean conservatives. sm
True conservatives.  The ones who don't believe in abortion, believe our money should be ours to spend,  are fiscally conservative, and believe in smaller government.  The true conservative Reagan Republican. I seriously doubt any of them were there.  And yes, libertarians are conservative as well, for the most part.  I don't know if they were there are not.  The conservative pundits I follow who are libertarian were definitely not there. 
If the conservatives think SP is sm
so great, why does the conservative talk radio in my city basically treat her as a sex object, wanting to see her naked or in suggestive clothing, etc.?  I even think they put a suggestive picture of her on their web site.  I think its so disrespectful and I'm not even going to vote for her!  Talk about sexist.  Does this go on in other cities?  I can understand ratings and revenue but we talking about possibly the second most powerful person in the country and they can't even be respectful! A man isn't treated this way. Maybe conservatives are the ones afraid of a strong woman.
That's true - and Barack Obama is a true Patriot too.
Again we can agree to disagree. How John McCain has voted goes against everything I want as a President, but there are an equal number of people to me who feel opposite. That's the way it goes.

Your last comment brought to mind how true that is. Being a true patriot is not harmful in a candidate. John McCain is a patriot. So is Barack Obama.
I just love it when Conservatives are

WOW the Conservatives are hateful here.
I was looking on the conservative board and there is so much aggression and anger there.  What is up with that? WHY?
They don't call them CONservatives for nothing!

Con means to deceive or mislead.  That's how they communicate, from Bush right on down to his peon worshippers.  They deceive, lie, mislead, twist, manipulate.  They do everything except speak the truth.  This is a perfect example.  You asked them above to see the post.  You didn't get a response, did you?


Now they'll just continue to troll this board with more outrageous fictional tales conceived in their tiny little minds, all for the purpose of demeaning and attacking liberals.


It's really sad, irritating and definitely bothersome, but they are their own worst enemy because they are getting more and more out of control every day.  In a way, I guess I will really be worried if it stops.  If I no longer see those angry hateful posts here, I will fear that they finally snapped in real life and either hurt someone else or got hurt themselves.


conservatives and stinks
Conservative and stinks..nah, at least not what the poster below stated..Dont ya know, Libby, per conservative post below, it is us liberals/democrats/anti war people who dont bathe and have a stench about us?  Yeah, right.
The conservatives want to have their cake and eat it too...sm
It's OK for a church to be prowar and not lose their exempt status, but not against it. Hypocrisy is reeking.

Stuff like this is the reason there is a separation between church and state to begin with. Give it an inch and we all lose.
Maybe the FBI is preventing conservatives from seeing it.
LoL. 
I doubt a lot of conservatives were there. sm
True conservatives would not have been caught dead there.  Maybe some RINOS.
I hear, and I think most of the conservatives on these
boards...here what you are saying. We just do not agree with you, so we counter the points. That is what debate is. It is working just like it is supposed to. Do you consider debate to be working only if the other side capitulates and you *win?*
Why is it such a challenge for conservatives to
and take personal responsibility for their actions and their consequences? This has nothing to do with libs. It has everything to do with the connections between racial, bigoted hate speech, violence, crime and cold-blooded murder.
Yes. Do tell how conservatives would lead us
out of the darkness and into the light.
The conservatives should put down their martinis
and start smoking weed. Whole lot better'n being a mean drunk, and they might even start thinking clearly enough again to figure out what 'fiscal responsibility' really is.
Here are some celebrity conservatives.

Kelsey Grammer


Gary Sinise


Stephen Baldwin


Patricia Heaton


Dennis Hopper


Craig T. Nelson


Ben Stein


Tom Sellek


Kurt Russell


Ted Nugent


Elizabeth Hasselbeck


Angie Harmon


John Ratzenberger


Are they blaming conservatives
and pro-life people for one person who lied?  It seems to me like these pro-life people were trying to be supportive and be there for someone that they really thought needed them.  How where they supposed to know that they were being lied to?  Instead of blaming conservatives as a whole on this one, why aren't they placing the blame on the ignorant woman who was addicted to blogging and made all of this up?  I just don't get the logic some of you people have.  One person lied and so all these pro-lifers came to her aid thinking she needed it and somehow it isn't the liars fault.....it is the pro-lifers.  Yeah...makes perfect sense.....sheesh
because conservatives stick to the old,
boring stuff and it is the independents and liberals that breathe fresh air into life.
And Google also has 896,000 entries on conservatives and
Excuse me while I take leave to invent some "facts" based on that.
You have demonstrated why conservatives cannot post here. sm
Are you schizophrenic.  Your posts are some of the some inflammatory, hate-filled screed it has ever been my displeasure to read.  Wishing people to burn in hell?  Calling children of the president ugly and alcoholics?  THAT is debate.  You don't fool me.  I didn't say she COULDN'T come here. I said ther poster demonstrated why she would not want to.  Get a little insight into your bizarre behavior.
And that is largely due to the fact that the conservatives SM

have afforded them the courtesy of not posting here, as has been said before.


That's why there are 2 boards for the conservatives who like the "yes man"
debates. I suggest to the people who don't like liberal ways go there. They will be able to high five and keep hope alive with the Bush yeppers and congregation.
Conservatives don't care about the poor...






NOT!


America and the Poor...


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America and the poor, that is the subject of this evening's “Talking Points Memo.”


The aftermath of Katrina has produced a debate over poor Americans. There are about 37 million people living below the poverty line right now. The issue was described this way by Newsweek (search) reporter Evan Thomas (search), a liberal guy but not alone, who writes, Liberals will say [the authorities] were indifferent to the plight of poor African-Americans. It is true that Katrina laid bare society's massive neglect of its least fortunate.


Massive neglect? Let's take a look at that bit of overstatement. Halfway through President Clinton's tenure in office in 1996, the poverty rate was 13.7 percent. Halfway through President Bush's tenure, the rate is 12.7 percent, a full point lower.


In 1996, the Clinton budget allotted $191 billion for poverty entitlements. That was 12.2 percent of the budget and a whopping amount of money. That's why Bill Clinton (search) was called the first black president by some.


However, the Bush 2006 budget allots a record shattering $368 billion for poverty entitlements, 14.6 percent of the entire budget, a huge increase over Clinton's spending on poverty entitlements.








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It's more like that the conservatives know history and are better informed.
I am amazed that you people are not challenged more.  I don't care about the political aspect but this is just ridiculous. Capitalism is superior to socialism in every way.  Socialist societies have never prospered.  Never.  Socialism remains a failed experiment.  Capitalism was implemented in West Germany and West Berlin following World War II. West Germany and West Berlin prospered and living standards became much better. Socialism was implemented in East Germany and East Berlin following World War II. East Germany and East Berlin stagnated and living standards deteriorated. The split turned German into an experiment that could be observed, studied, and used to show the differences of how capitalism and socialism affect a country. This is a matter of fact.  Anyone who opts for socialism is a fool. 
Here are some the conservatives forgot to add to his list...sm
The Shoelace Scandal - Clinton tied his shoe laces to loose and Monica had to tie them for him. Whoaaa!

The Walking the Dog Scandal -
Clinton was walking his dog and it exposed it's pee pee to a conservative's poodle. Whoaeee!

The Toothbrush Scandal -
Monica brushed her teeth with Clinton's toothbrush. Whoaaa!

Did I leave anything off!

Had to joke for a minute!

While some of the scandals during his presidency were very legitimate, more than a few of them were off the chain crazy during Clinton's time in office. Bush has had it very easy in this department, if you ask me. I think republicans are just better at digging up scandals.
Yep those mean conservatives are over there helping Israel

Yep, they'll be back when all the Lebanese are dead, because all us conservatives are evil like that.    



Don't think you can blame it all at the feet of conservatives....
runaway social programs are certainly not the fault of conservatives...raiding of social security was not done by conservatives...Democrats did that. You can't blame the moral relativism of today on conservatives either. Pre-emptive war was also something started by Democrats (Viet Nam). Democrats kept blacks from having the vote until the 1960's. So please...let's not try to blame EVERYTHING on conservatives...because that is a crock. No one group of people got us where we are today. It was definitely a combined effort.
Who gives more to charity? Liberals or conservatives? sm

Charity's political divide

Conservative give roughly 30% more to charity on average.

http://philanthropy.com/free/articles/v19/i04/04001101.htm


Who gives and who doesn't

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2682730&page=1


Who gives to charity:

http://townhall.com/columnists/JohnStossel/2006/12/06/who_gives_to_charity



Conservative philanthropists are more generous, experts say...

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/204/story_20419_1.html


Conservatives give more to charity:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20080327/news_lz1e27will.html




It seems to me that this study shows that conservatives (sm)
are MORE concerned about others than democrats. They see a picture of SOMEONE ELSE who is hurt or dead and they react more than the democrats. I used to think of myself as being fairly liberal, but if that means being associated with the type of people many of the democrats who post on here appear to be, then no thanks, I'll call myself conservative. Actually I always vote for the candidate I agree with most, regardless of party.
History of liberals and conservatives

I posted this on the comedy board too - its half political/half comedy.



Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter.




The two most important events in all of history were:


1. The invention of beer, and

2. The invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer, and the beer to the man.


These facts formed the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:

1. Liberals & 2. Conservatives.


Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.


Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to barbeque at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement.


Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly BBQ's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girlie-men.


Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy and group hugs, the evolution of the Hollywood actor, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide all the meat and beer that conservatives provided.


 Over the years, Conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jack@ss.


Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of liberal women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most are social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood, and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat.


Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.


Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America . They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing.


Here ends today's lesson in world history.......

It should be noted that a liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it.


A conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other true believers, and to more liberals...just to yank their chain.


Have a great day!


and here I thought conservatives had the market on
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Conservatives better pray that regulation will be ENOUGH.
swift and smart, it probably won't be enough.
"Bashing"? All you do is bash conservatives,
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