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Thank you from the bottom of my heart ...sm

Posted By: oldtimer on 2008-10-23
In Reply to: T How Lame Are You/What a Joke RE: Racism - So much ignorance, such little time...sm

for posting this, though I feel that it falls on deaf ears. Sadly the bigots and racists are still in denial. I am old and white and it is hard to pull the wool over my eyes too. I voted today for Obama/Biden. The going will be rough for whoever wins, but I have hope with Obama and I have not had this much hope in a long time.


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There are bottom feeders of all...
stripes, tis true, but we are talking about Coulter here. She also is an embarassment along the lines of Rush and O'Reilly. There are many conservative personalities who do not engage in outright cruelty directed towards specific individuals or groups.
Rush's new bottom.
 I do not listen to Rush but I saw this on television and read it in the paper. Michael J. Fox has done a commercial for the democrat running in Missouri who is pro stem cell research. He is obviously having a really bad day or his Parkinson's has progressed since I last saw him. Anyway, Rush said that Fox was **acting,** flailing all over the place, that he knew Fox had Parkinson's but that he has never seen any symptoms of it before this political ad. He said Fox might have stopped taking his medication so that he would flail around more, but if not, then he was acting.  Unfrigging believable. I have seen Fox unable to sit still or stop moving many many times even while taking medication over the years. I think he was diagnosed in 1994 so 12 years later he has probably deteriorated quite a bit. This just struck me as so mean-spirited. Knocking the homeless, the mentally ill, etc. is one thing, disgusting in my opinion, but to accuse a sick man of faking it is snake belly low. People in glass pill bottles should not throw stones.
The bottom line is....
from 1870 to the 1960's the majority of elected Democrats in Congress, with the help of a small minority of southern Republicans, effectively denied African Americans the right to vote for 90 years FOLLOWING the civil war. If you are saying that seeking their freedom and giving them the right to vote is a "liberal" movement, then it was the Republicans in majority, not the Democrats in majority, who were the "liberals" of that time.

In my mind, we are all tied up in semantics. The passion and commitment to something that to each of us is morally right is not liberal nor conservative. It is a human characteristic. None of us, I suppose, are truly liberal or truly conservative. It is a mixture. Some "liberals" agree with me that abortion is morally wrong and are against it for that reason, yet still consider themselves liberals. Some "conservatives" (such as Guiliani) do not agree on abortion and are pro choice, yet still call themselves conservative. I made a comment on the conservative board regarding the fires in California and was accused of sounding like a "bleeding heart liberal." So, in essence, over time people have identified certain characteristics and tried to put them in a liberal or a conservative box. And because we are human, and because we are different and have different ideas, we do not fit into boxes and ideas cross over. Hence, no true liberals or true conservatives....and that fact does not bother me at all, though it does bother some.

It is just that some of us love the labels more than others, I guess; the labels make them feel good, like they are affiliated with something noble...and what the labels mean to us individually, and some get very angry if someone questions the label.

I guess my prefrence is not to be labeled.

And that is what it is...a label, in the grand scheme of things. Because no one can really agree on what it means. Everyone puts their own personal spin on it. That is the nature of the human condition.
Bottom line
Obama is going to win, that's what counts.
He must do something right, if the majority wants Barrack Obama.
try this one. Look at the table at the bottom
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/senator_obamas_four_tax_increa.html
bottom line...
After the attack of 9/11 something HAD TO BE DONE.

What other options were there?

Doing nothing was sure not an option.






That IS the bottom line...
That's the only reason it is being offshored. It has nothing to do with "free trade" and everything to do with corporate greed.
The bottom line is....(sm)

Torture does not provide reliable confessions.


Torture has not and will not "save American lives."  If it has done anything, it has put more lives at risk.


Waterboarding was used in WWII against US personell by the Japanese.  We prosecuted those who used torture and executed them.  Why?  Because it was against the law.  And what did the Japanese get for their efforts with torturing?  False information and a bad reputation.  What makes you think we'll get anything different from that?


The only thing torture is good for is revenge.  That's not what this country is about, and its not what I'm about.


Then on your list of bottom feeders

Don't forget Al Franken and Michael Moore just to name a few examples.  Oh, and don't forget liberal internet columnist  Deborah Frisch who told a conservative foe:


*if someone shot you and your 'tyke' it wouldn't slow me down one iota.' She also wrote that she hopes 'no one Jon-Benets' the child* -- a reference to the brutal murder of a young Colorado girl ten years ago -- and made disturbing sexual remarks about the boy.   *I reiterate: If some nutcase kidnapped your child tomorrow and did to her what was done to…Jon-Benet Ramsey, I wouldn't give a damn.*


That is bottom feeding in all its glory.  Ann may have a big mouth, but I don't think she's ever threatened to kill someone's kid and/or sexually abuse them.


Bottom line, Taiga....
did Murtha or did Murtha not say "The surge is working?" Yes, he did. Why did CBS choose not to print all the disclaimers? You got me, I don't know. As to Murtha adding the disclaimers, he probably suddenly remembered he is going to have to talk to Pelosi come Monday. I don't blame him, I would be backpedaling too. lol.
Okay. This is exhausting. Bottom line...
I did not say Teddy you are a liar. Nor will I. Only you know for sure if you are lying. And you have said ad nauseam you don't care what I think or say, so why do keep protesting so much? Sigh.

What I believe or do not believe does not matter at this point to anyone but me. I vote we stop whipping this dead horse.
i like the idea of starting at the bottom
giving the common people a break rather than sticking us from behind. I don't know what the monetary amount should be per mortgage. I heard Whoopi this morning throwing out the idea of 25% to the people who have taken out mortgages since 2003. One of the gals on the view also talked about these people who were given these loans that were very low interest at the beginning and then after a few years had the interest raised. Why can't the mortgage companies offer them a lower interest rate again? At least they would be getting something!! They are all greedy. I think the idea of bailing the mortgage companies out is disgusting. I realize people should never get in over their heads to begin with but these mortgage companies and any government official who had a hand in it were out for themselves, thinking in the end they were going to win..... no loss to them.... well guess what? they got a little too greedy and I think rather than slapping their little hands, THEY should be the ones to pay the price. I don't care if it's Rush's idea, Whoopi's, etc... How about for once our government listens to the PEOPLE of this country rather than looking out for their own butts.
tax cuts?? just look at the table at the bottom
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/senator_obamas_four_tax_increa.html
Well said. That is the bottom line. I have already voted....sm
for Obama/Biden and am proud of my choice. No one should ever legislate what a women can do with her own body, or a man's for that matter, but abortion is the subject here. As is with everything in life, I believe we will all have to answer for all our choices throughout our lives. That is between you and your God. Abortion could definitely be dramatically reduced if there weren't so many barriers to education and birth control and less talk about the "welfare mother" when women do choose not to have an abortion. I think that the main problem is that people are very judgemental. I am old, and, overy the years, I have learned that the old saying "walk a mile in my shoes" before your judge me probably should be either one of the Constitutional Amendments or one of the Ten Commandments.

I think that when judgement day comes, God is going to ask me, what did you do for your fellow human beings out of the goodness of your heart that did not benefit you directly in any way. Did you love your neighbor (even your enemies) as yourself? Did you bear false witness against your neighbor and spread rumors, get down and dirty because of differences of opinion in an election or in your daily life? That is what I imagine God is going to ask me in a few years and I am thinking about how I am going to answer.
The bottom line is that he's not lying about it. It's just
z
where do you people come from? the bottom of the gene pool?
in anyway!!!
Geez. Well, just proved that the bottom of the barrel...
had not been reached until just now. What a nasty, sick comment.
Bottom line: Either way, WE lose. At least, if the bill
doesn't pass until it strips the wall street & banking criminals of their ill-gotten gains, then EVERYONE will have to pay. But as the bill is currently written, WE have to pay. We're screwed, either say. Once this dies down a bit, I'm pulling every cent out of the stock market forever. I don't want my hard-earned savings, what little there is, going to making shysters rich.
GAME OVER!
Bottom line...are you in favor of infanticide? nm
nm
Bottom line....O will raise DH and my taxes, sorry, it's not for

those who are lazy. Try working hard for a change and not expecting the gov't to give you a handout for once. WAAAH, please pay for my healthcare, pay for my kid's college, help me out because I don't want to take responibility for myself, I would rather let the gov't do it all and then when it doesn;t work out, I can blame them too. When O wins I can't wait to see this board in a year with all the people complaining about the broken promises, higher taxes, etc. It will be worth the wait.


Bottom line, no one can renounce the citizenship...sm
of an American citizen, period, whether they are adopted by a noncitizen or not. Obama had the right to claim Nigerian citizenship at age 21 but did not.
Bottom line here. O does not claim to be messiah
Anybody who subscribes to such nonsense on any level whatsoever is the one who is confused.....VERY confused.
Aren't we NOWat the bottom? How much lower can it get?
Therefore we need CHANGE.

'You don't seem to understand.' Favorite sentence of McCain addressing Obama.
But, it did not happen with Clinton and that is the bottom line
Why, oh why do the people continue to uphold a president who has wound up at the bottom of the barrel as far as what kind of presidency he had. Very good riddance. Yes, we can.
So,. bottom line, I am European born
and I have proven that my grammar and spelling is better than yours.

Sometimes I make some typos, but last not least this is a froum and on this forum there is no 'typo police' applied, not even 'grammar and spelling police.'

Go and take your meds, I bet you swallow tens of those every day and night, and pray!


Geeeezzzzzzz. And I thought they had already found the bottom of the barrel...
I don't believe that, but if she did, what the heck difference would it make???
Geezzzzzz.
maybe if you would have paid better, you wouldn't have had to scrape the bottom of the barrel -nm
:)
and jobs that pay min. wage often have to scrape the bottom of the barrel - nm
:)
I saw that clip earlier today and it is exactly right. And you can bet your bottom dollar on this...
Alarmist video? Who knows. Scare tactics? Who knows, but one thing I believe is there will be class war fare, food riots, and when Obama has taken all our guns away, then what???

It has happened in the UK with Sharia Law, in Australia they confiscated all guns, France with their huge Muslim population, and it sure as H.E. double-hockey sticks can happen here. And if Obama gets elected, you can take that to the bank. He will strip mine our country to its bones.

My DH has a saying..the tree of freedom has to be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots. Or words to that effect.
Perez Hilton is a troll and bottom feeder.....
He serves no useful purpose in this life or any life. I agree with Miss California though. Marriage SHOULD be between a man and a woman. Sorry Perez, but I guess I would lose the pagent too.


Take heart, MT ME -
...Maybe they will knock the comet into the earth on July 4th and we won't have to worry about SCOTUS anymore, LOL!

or hopefully not, heh...
Take heart, AG. sm
Not all Jews believe like this poster.  I was reading recently about a conference in Washington by conservative Jews, Ben Stein being among them, and a lot of others, including many Rabbis, who are distressed at the pro-abortion stance of some Jews, including the partial birth abortion stance.  Not all Jews believe the same, just as not all Christians do.    According to the Mishnah (Sanhedrin 4:5): Whoever destroys one life is as if he destroyed a whole world, and whoever preserves a life is as if he preserved the whole world.  This was quoted at the conference.  No one person speaks for all.  Thank God. 
ive got more heart than you ever will
you have no idea about my life so don't assume i haven't seen someone (MANY) with a lot less than me.

2 things i lack? you're one class act i can tell. again, you have no idea about my life so to make a personal attack is ridiculous, ruthless, and sad
Please take this old saying to heart - sm.
"If one person tells you you're dead, seek a second opinion.

If 50 people tell you you're dead, lie down."

Do you think maybe there's a reason the overwhelming majority of people on here think JTBB is a douche? So, when "ONE" (gee, I guess that would be YOU) person starts stroking her monkey and kissing her a$$, don't be surprised that the "MOB" calls you on it.
Bottom line...they made a 68 million dollar PROFIT.
PROFIT is AFTER expenses. So I am thinking they are doing pretty darn well, don't you? They are not in it for the goodness of their hearts.

And it says plainly on the website they will take checks for anything but abortions. So that says to me cash or credit card. IF there is another explanation for that, please share.

It has been awhile since there was a bombing or a shooting, and I don't condone either. Killing abortionists or bombing clinics is not the answer. Changing minds and providing alternatives is the answer. But going with the flow and remaining quiet while mass murder of the unborn goes on is something I cannot do, and sorry if I find it horrifying that PLanned Parenthood makes such a KILLING for killing. THere is THAT.
heart of darkness?
Heart of darkness?  Because I want all to have their share in life and not suffer?  Heart of darkness?  WOW.  I would call the super rich who give nothing back to society the heart of darkness.  And to me Kruschev saying that was a dark mark on America that he was questioning how we, the richest country on earth, can have homeless when, Russia doesnt.  Yes, I believe in socialism.  Capitalism never has survived, it has always destroyed itself and from the way the world and America is going, Capitalism isnt gonna be around too much longer..It cant.  It is an ideology for the few, the rich few, not for the working masses.  No other industrialized country has capitalism like we do.  they meet the basic needs for their citizens..Do you know what some super rich call the working class..**the unwashed masses**.  I have a quite well off friend and he actually calls them that.  I was shocked when he said it in front of me..So you go ahead and defend the capitalist fat cats who think of us as **unwashed masses**.  I will defend the people.
Crushes my heart, actually
Doesnt it just crush your heart to think there are people out there that no matter how bad the country is being run, no matter that thousand are dying for a lie, no matter that hundreds died because FEMA just couldnt do the job, that senior administration officials outed a CIA operative, which endangered the United States and all who worked undercover with this operative, that Cheney met with oil officials, no doubt to create an energy policy favorable to the oil industry, on and on and on and on..they still defend this administration when the FACTS are in and more are coming in day in and day out.  An upright person would see what is going on and even though they are die-hard republicans, they would realize it is time to bring this administration to task because it is THIS administration not the whole republican party..but no, instead of attacking and questioning this administration, they choose to attack us, *little people* on numerous political boards throughout the internet..
Yes I have a heart and a brain
which are 2 things you lack.  If you were raped by your father would you have the baby?  Take a walk (not a ride) through the homeless or less than privledged areas in your community.  Get a grip lady - deal with reality and stop turning away every time you see someone who has alot less than you.  It's not murder you jack a-hole!
and she has a beautiful heart
to go along with her beautiful self
murderous heart
sounds to me as if you have the heart of a true American -NOT.  How fitting for you to say such a thing on 9/11- typical democrat?   I hope not.  shame on you for wishing someone's death.
Well, bless your heart.
Don't you talk pretty, now? Did I mess in your post toasties?

Townhall meetings = can't prepare because you don't know what the questions will be. Obama will NEVER agree to that. If he has nothing to hide and he is prepared, why won't he do it?

ACK! HEART ATTACK!
Did someone just apologize on this board?!?!??!


By golly I think we are gettin somewhere! Maybe we ain't all rurnt!

(South Georgia :-D )
Bless your heart! nm
xx
Government take God....either he's in your heart
$$
This is so heart-wrenching. I know there is nothing I can say (sm)
to change your feelings on this. I am sure in many ways you are a very good person.  But this is just so sad.  Because I know there are many who agree with you....and the babies cannot speak up for themselves.   But earlier you did say that the baby moving around inside a mother is alive, just doesn't have a soul, just like you feel your cat is alive but doesn't have a soul.  Which would make abortion killing a human being who is alive.  The law doesn't know when a person gets their soul and neither do you or I.  God forbid we should kill a child and be wrong.
here's a girl after my own heart. I have
done my share of camping in the winter inside the house, too. We will probably have a cold winter, we usually do after a hurricane. I had whiskey barrel planters outside that had filled with water and never got any plants put in them and they froze solid that winter; I am 20 miles off the coast. My girlfriend went "skating" on the stock pond that winter and broke through the ice. She says her feet have been cold ever since. Looks like I will be spot heating again this winter, just where I happen to be in sweats and sweaters and an electric blanket or small heater. My son is a train engineer and he tried to tell the boys at the coal plant what would happen, but they were dems and their daddies were dems, etc., and oh, the ripple effect that is coming.
be still my pounding heart
Obama's personal habits are really no one's business but his own.  He is honest about the difficulty of giving up an addictive habit especially during the most stressful part of his life so far.  Your gripe tells us way more about your values than it does about Obama's.  Camel, needle, stone.
Wow! What has this to do with 'grow a heart?'..sm
Do you want to tell me that I should be 'merciful' in judging Michelle?
This your sentence shows me that you do not find her beautiful.
I would not say that she is ugly, but beautiful she is certainly not.

MAYBE it was just the heart of a much better woman!!
nm
The mainstream media hogs you speak of are actually those bottom dwellers at MSNBC and
broadcast news, NOT Hannity or any of those to whom you refer. 
A socialist's heart revealed. sm
No socialist society has ever flourished. You must know that.  Kruschev.  My God. I can't believe you said that.  Well, I am but a passing visitor and I just saw into the heart of darkness.  Woweee.