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That's what I'm talking about....Thank you question marks...sm

Posted By: Democrat on 2006-06-12
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9/11 Panel Gives Gov't Poor Marks on Reform

9/11 Panel Gives Gov't Poor Marks on Reform





By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press
Writer
35 minutes ago



More than four years after the Sept. 11 attacks, U.S. intelligence agencies
still are failing to share information while Congress battles over security
funding, a panel that investigated the terrorist hijackings will conclude in a
new report.


In interviews Friday, members of the former Sept. 11 commission said the
government should receive a dismal grade for its lack of urgency in
enacting strong security measures to prevent terror attacks.


The 10-member, bipartisan commission disbanded after issuing 41
recommendations to bolster the nation's security in July 2004. The members have
reconstituted themselves, using private funds, as the 9/11 Public Discourse
Project and will release a new report Monday assessing the extent their
directives have been followed.


Overall, the government has performed not very well, said former commission
chairman Thomas Kean, former Republican governor of New Jersey.


Before 9-11, both the Clinton and Bush administrations said they had
identified Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida as problems that have to be dealt with,
and were working on it, Kean said. But they just were not very high on their
priority list. And again it seems that the safety of the American
people is not very high on Washington's priority list.


A spokesman at the Homeland Security Department declined to comment until the
report is issued Monday. Rep. Pete King, R-N.Y., chairman of the House Homeland
Security Committee, acknowledged that some areas continue to be vulnerable but
have not been addressed due to disagreements with the Senate.


Congress established the commission in 2002 to investigate government
missteps that led to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. It found that the United
States could not protect its citizens from the attacks because it underestimated
al-Qaida. Since June, the former commissioners have held hearings to examine
what they described as the government's unfinished agenda to secure the
country.


Among the main concerns, which former Democratic commissioner Timothy Roemer
said would receive the worst grades:


_The United States is not doing enough to ensure that foreign nations are
upgrading security measures to stop proliferation of nuclear, biological and
chemical materials. Such materials could be used in weapons of mass destruction,
and over 100 research reactors around the world have enough highly enriched
uranium present to make a nuclear device.


We've seen that Osama bin Laden likes to do spectacular things, said Roemer,
a former Indiana congressman. Is a dirty bomb next? ... We're not doing enough,
and we're not doing it urgently enough.


_Police, firefighters, medics and other first responders still lack
interconnected radio systems letting them communicate with each other during
emergencies. Responders from different agencies at the World Trade Center were
unable to coordinate rescues — or receive information that could have saved
their own lives — on 9/11.


Congress last year approved spending nearly $1 billion on interoperable
systems, but King said the matter is a very difficult issue.


_Both the Bush administration and Congress have continued to distribute
security funding to states without aiming most money at high-risk communities.
The Homeland Security Department gave $2.5 billion in grants to states and 50
high-risk cities last year, but some rural states, like Wyoming, received more
money per resident than terror targets like New York.


The House and Senate have been unable this year to agree on a funding formula
that distributes money based solely on risk, threats and vulnerability. King
said the Senate's proposal is still living with a pork-barrel formula. But
Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairwoman Susan Collins said in statement
that her bipartisan plan provides a meaningful baseline of funds to each state
so that the nation as a whole can achieve essential levels of preparedness.


Kean said information-sharing gaps among turf-conscious federal intelligence
agencies continue to exist. He also chastised the Transportation Security
Administration for failing to consolidate multiple databases of passenger
information into a single terror watch list that would make it easier for
airlines to screen for suspicious travelers.


Moreover, expanded governmental powers to seek out terror-related
intelligence have not been adequately balanced by civil liberties protections or
oversight, said former Democratic commissioner Richard Ben-Veniste. He said
President Bush was tardy in naming a civil liberties protection board, whose
funding is anemic and which has not yet been met to get underway.


A bright spot in the government's performance is the creation of a national
intelligence director to help coordinate all government terror information,
Roemer said.


Generally, the grades range all the way from A to F, Kean said.

Still, No parent would be happy with this report card, said former Democratic
commissioner Jamie Gorelick.

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On the Net:

9/11 Public Discourse Project:


http://www.9-11pdp.org/


Rep. Dingell Marks 50 Years in House

Rep. Dingell Marks 50 Years in House


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Rep.

At age 79, Rep. John Dingell is known for his prickly demeanor and blunt words, which have earned him respect. Rep. Dingell's Web Site


 

 

Morning Edition, December 13, 2005 · John Dingell (D-MI) marks 50 years in the House on Tuesday. Only two others in history have served longer.


Dingell came to Congress in December 1955, when he won a special election to replace his late father. Dingell speaks fondly of working on massive, important legislation he helped shepherd through Congress, including Medicare, food stamps, student loans, consumer product protection and the Endangered Species Act.


There are a few disappointments, Dingell says. In every single Congress for the last 50 years, he has introduced a bill to create a national health care system -- and it has never passed. The Patient's Bill of Rights he championed in the 1990s also failed. And now, with Republicans in control of the House, Senate and White House, Dingell worries they're dismantling the earlier work of his career.


But you have your choice between sitting back and being depressed and letting it go forward, or standing and fighting, he says. I choose the second course.





Newspaper Marks 1000 Days of Iraq War with Key Stats
Newspaper Marks 1000 Days of Iraq War with Key Stats

By E&P Staff

Published: December 13, 2005 10:30 AM ET

NEW YORK To mark what it called the 1000 Days of the Iraq war, the London daily The Independent offered extensive coverage today, featuring a by-the-numbers approach.

Here are some of their calculations:

$204.4 billion: The cost to the U.S of the war so far.

2,339: Allied troops killed

15,955: US troops wounded in action

98: U.K troops killed

30,000 : Estimated Iraqi civilian deaths

0: Number of WMDs found

66: Journalists killed in Iraq.

63: Journalists killed during Vietnam war

8: per cent of Iraqi children suffering acute malnutrition

53,470: Iraqi insurgents killed

67: per cent Iraqis who feel less secure because of occupation

$343: Average monthly salary for an Iraqi soldier. Average monthly salary for an American soldier in Iraq: $4,160.75

5: foreign civilians kidnapped per month

47: per cent Iraqis who never have enough electricity

20: casualties per month from unexploded mines

25-40: per cent Estimated unemployment rate, Nov 2005

251: Foreigners kidnapped

70: per cent of Iraqi's whose sewage system rarely works

183,000: British and American troops are still in action in Iraq.

13,000: from other nations

90: Daily attacks by insurgents in Nov '05. In Jun '03: 8

60-80: per cent Iraqis who are strongly opposed to presence of coalition troops

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In an accompanying piece from Baghdad, the newspaper's Patrick Cockburn adds one more stat: A BBC poll yesterday showed that half of the Iraqis questioned say that Iraq needs a strong leader--while only 28 per cent cited democracy as a priority.

Iraqis are cynical about their political leaders, Cockburn writes. The election results are likely to show that the great majority of Iraqis will vote along ethnic or religious lines as Shia, Sunni or Kurds. The country is turning from a unitary state into a confederation.

There is no sign yet of the thousand-day war ending. Every month up to a thousand fresh corpses arrive at the mortuary in Baghdad. A new Iraq is emerging but it is already drenched in blood.


Verrry boring. Antifeminist women easy marks
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to see McCain's pictures click on the red cross marks, disregard the 1st...nm
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When McBush is talking, he isn't talking to you unless you are wealthy or CEO

 


who provides campaign funds.  Do you know why lobbyists are making the headlines?  Because they are bribing the politicians of both parties - lobbyists work for private interests (AIPAC) along with the pharmaceutical company ($280.00 for a bottle of pills?  Only in America, folks), oil industry (record profits at your expense) credit card companies and unethical banking procedures (Funny isn't it how Visa wrote the reformed BK bill, making virtually everyone end up in ch 13 (garnishing income, including SS) after raising credit limits and offering transfer balances at 0 percent to everyone with a last name and a roof over their head?  Along with mtgs that were bound to turn into bad loans when house prices dropped which they always do after a bubble.  God, I could go on and on here but I get tired.  The nation is in such trouble.  Serious serious trouble.  There is a huge loan to an unfriendly country (did you watch the Olympics?  did you ever see Bush look more uncomfortable other than during the Stephen Colbert roast during the national press conference.  lol.  


Well I want you to know what fascism.  And I want you to know that those treasury notes are backed up by the taxpayers (you) and real estate including roads and govt buildings and parks.  Have you noticed why Save-Mart Center is owned by savemart and not a community business or the community itself?  There is somethign happening slowly and surely and it is NOT going to benefit middle class america one iota.  You must know that as a poor person, you have no power, no voice.  Elections are rigged and the politicans cease to care whether you like them or not - oh wait, that has already happened. 


THINK ABOUT THIS!!!!  Your 401Ks and investments/assets are what at are stake! 


Fascist governments nationalized key industries and made massive state investments. They also introduced price controls, wage controls and other types of Soviet-style economic planning measures.[12] Property rights and private initiative were contingent upon service to the state.[13].[14] Fascists promoted their ideology as a "third way" between capitalism and Marxian socialism.[15] Fascists in Germany and Italy claimed that they opposed reactionaries, and that they were actually revolutionary political movements that fused with conservative social values.


Talking to them is talking to a brick wall.
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I am, not talking about Clinton, I am talking
about the torture of prisoners, crimes against the Geneva conventions.

It seems that you did not read the last sentence in my former post.

Are you saying that crimes from the near past should all be forgotten?
Not really, you'd have to know what they were talking about
which I didn't know about the incident of the soldier accidentally killing other soldiers.

Thanks though.
Wow! what are you talking about???nm
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What are you talking about?
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I was talking about myself when I said that.
You might want to re-read my post.
What are you talking about?
I am sure I don't know.  I know your game though.
Not what I was talking about

Wasn't referring to WMD, as stated in my post.


Saddam had gotten rid of the WMDs, said his son-in-law, quite a few years earlier.  If your theory of invading a country that no longer is a threat, then would you also advise invading Germany since they used to have a Nazi regime?


If you are talking to me...
which question did I not answer?
who are you talking to?
I don't understand the anonymous post... there are plenty I think it could be addressed to, why did you not point out what you mean? PS you are just stirring the pot more right?
Exactly what I am talking about. Think for yourself.

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Talking about yourself again, huh?
nm
what are you talking about?
straight out of left field... you random people!

Yes the baby has Down's syndrome...
He is so adorable did you see him when she held him on stage?
Babies are so amazing!
Okay, what are you talking about?

I just mean in terms of the baby being passed around.  That's what people do with babies.  They share the love. 


Doncha have any babies in your family?


What are you talking about??
And you still have nothing positive to say about Obama.

All I'm asking for is something positive and you can't even do that.


You know exactly what I'm talking about; no need
You'll just produce your own figures (be they real or imagined) to 'back up' your own claims. But if you truly think the number of priests who have turned out to be sexual predators isn't a little fishy, then maybe that blindness is part of the problem.
No, I don't think he is talking about ...
the same sex ed for high school as he is kindergartners. However, it did describe talking about "sexual intercourse" and how HIV-AIDS is spread. I don't know how that is appropriate in any case for a kindergartner. The bill was specifically intended to open it up to the lower grades...it was already being taught in the upper grades. Why would you open that up to elementary school kids, let alone kindergartners? That was my point. If you want to establish a program for elementary school children about right and wrong touches, I am all for that. But introducing sexual intercourse and how HIV-AIDS is spread makes no sense to me for elementary school children. If they did not intend to teach it to elementary school children and kindergartners, why pass a bill to open it up to them?

Apparently many in the state senate agreed, because the bill did not pass.

That was my point. He in essence did vote for sex education for kindergartners and it was not just right and wrong touching. Thankfully, at least in my estimation...it did not pass. You saw the video...if he meant limited to "right and wrong touching" he would/should have said so.
I was talking about
appointing new justices to the supreme court. I would love to have lots of liberal justices seated on the bench. Has nothing to do with put babies in a closet, but hey, whatever.
Now that's what I'm talking about!
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This is exactly what I am talking about. nm
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Who do you think you are talking to?
from the experts to figure out tax structure, credits, cuts, deductions, incentives, etc, and certainly know myself, my beliefs, my principles and my values by now. I also know my party, their platform, my candidate and my choice.
Well am I talking to myself LOL
I meant this to go under the post of sm-m!
So, what will you be talking about
just curious
What are you talking about?!

Biden answered each and every question very completely and very eloquently.  They were more like accusations than questions, and the whole thing resembled an ambush more than an interview.  Please WATCH THE VIDEO OF THIS INTERVIEW (link below) and tell me just which question Biden DIDN'T answer.


I wouldn't waste my time being interviewed by this woman, either.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X346U109Chs


 


What are you talking about
"Fox news is barely legal"
He's right, we ARE talking only to each other now UH OH, what now?
Seriously, what do we do now?
What R U talking about? sm
Joe Biden has been out doing rallies every day!  Did you not know about Joe the Plumber standing up John McCain at his rally today?  Oh, yeah, guess you were too busy looking up bogus trash about Obama online.
First of all, you don't know who you are talking to.
Second, the kind of ignorance displayed in your other post cannot strike any chord anywhere, except maybe a gag reflex. Obama has exactly the same "it" factor that JFK had. Furthermore, he challenges us to dig deep down inside to become our better selves. His faith in the American people to rise above division to unite is strong and unwavering.

His record of civil rights and community organizing belies your impotent claims regarding socialism...something I refuse to debate with someone who obviously has no clue as to the meaning of the word. It is your job to educate yourself, not mine.

I have lived long enough to understand exactly what I will be getting when Obama takes the oath and I am counting the days until we turn the corner on W's slash and burn and strike out on our journey to a better America. I am not threatened by the idea of equal opportunity for ALL Americans and I expect my leaders to fight to achieve that...that includes the poor.

I'm afraid I am not the one with disappointment in store, my dear. The pubs will not be able to steal another election, despite their best efforts. Third time is not the charm...not this time. They tried the same shennanigans in 1960...cried vote fraud, demanded recounts, which they got. The result? The original Nixon state of Hawaii moved over to the Kennedy side and he won 303 electoral votes to Nixon's 219. No need to defend an HONEST election. Why are the pubs always so paranoid to think that everythng MUST be rigged when they are clearly the losers? Sore losers, at that.

You are wallowing in negative energy whether you realize it or not. There is nothing "positive" about the pathetic witch hunt the pubs have been conducting now for months, all to no avail, currently in one last desperate attempt to save a candidate who cannot even put a decent campaign together. Try not to feel too badly. The party didn't really have a whole lot to work with from the get go.
She knows what she is talking about
and she knows how to deliver it. It is all in the delivery, not so much in the words. This is called charisma.
Smooth and velvety, like Obama.

What are you talking about?
http://www.economist.com/vote2008/index.cfm

You must be talking about....(sm)

The Financial Services Modernization Act (which really started it all).


http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=1&vote=00354


Funny, I don't see a whole lot of "nays" beside the R's in the list.


about whom are you talking?..nm
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what are you talking about?...sm
It did not work for 8 years, so we try it differently, we needed change and we hope that it will work this way.
We were talking about this the other day...sm


But heck, then we got to thinking....we DO live in a foreign country, on the top of a mountain, in the wilderness....where no one can touch is if we don't want them to.


We're gonna hunker down for the next four years, and pray for the best.


If the worst happens, we'll be prepared.


Now that's what I'm talking about !
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That is not what we are talking about.

civil service where my 16yo daughter goes to the barracks for 3-4 months to learn training as if a war was coming.  That is what Hitler used to do to his country.


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80829


This was posted on 2nd page and already discussed the link above.


What are you talking about?
May I repeat myself again. The plan will operate like any other private group plan. O is only going to insure ACCESS to the existing plan that is now used by the House, Senate and federal employees. You choose your own doctor under a PPO or you can elect HMO which will function exactly the same as HMOs currently function. You choose from 4 or 5 different levels of coverage according to your desired deductible amount and level of coverage. This is NOT modeled after European socialized medicine. The government will not have ANYTHING TO DO with decisions regarding your health care. It is simply a plan to give all Americans affordable access to EXISTING plans.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????s/m
I just want to state that I am pro-abortion till the 3rd month.
THAT'S IT.
Umm, Hello? No one was talking about
Except for you, of course.
what are you talking about
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Okay so everyone is talking about
abortions versus abstinence and saying nasty things about Palin's daughter.  To me all of that is not the point.  The point is....WHY SHOULD WE FUND FOREIGN ABORTIONS.  Who cares!  I mean...they know what causes pregnancies surely.  If they can't control their hormonal urges....why should that be our problem and why should we fund it?  I mean really?  For all I care, they can make their own law stating only oral sex is allowed.  LOL!  Why is this even a concern for us and why do we feel the need to fund it?  We have enough problems...do we not?  I think I would be much more concerned about our country's problems then whether or not foreign countries can stop knocking their women up.
What are you talking about?
Nobody agrees with you. Why are you keeping misunderstanding posts?
You know EXACTLY what I'm talking about
You know very well that I am not speaking of the working class who have fallen on hard times. My family has always hunted to put food on the table as long as I can remember and we grew a garden for all our vegetables. And, I have always gone into the cheap grocery stores because that's how I was raised. My husband is a white collar worker as well and is diagnosed with a medical condition in which his medications will now cost out of pocket $1500 a month, of which we do not have. Needing help is just that, needing help due to circumstances that have caused a family to fall on hard times; that is what food stamps, etc. is for and I certainly have no problem with that.

The welfare you call propaganda is not propaganda, it is a WAY OF LIFE for many if not most people living in this community. This is a generation to generation to generation way of living with as many opportunities afforded their children as mine to better themselves but it is turned down because of not wanting to actually work hard for anything. They are used to a free check, free groceries, free healthcare, and it has been that way for several generations. That is not propaganda, that is the facts that I see every day.

You never saw me post anything about the working population who have fallen on hard times. You obviously DO NOT live where I do or see what I see, or you would know what I am talkinhg about without bringing up the word propaganda.

What I speak of is called lazy and baby breeders. Your situation is completely different........two different situations entirely.

Who, O? WTH are you talking about? nm
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