There are just too many weird things

• From a founding member of Delta Force - see article inside - Starcat
  • There's a few things no jiving with this guy - Skeptical
    • What if your skepticism is - misdirected? sm - Starcat
      • I hadn't thought about it but we haven't heard much, if anything about whether we are yellow, - Democrat
        • red or green. I guess everything is all right now. - Democrat
      • To Starcat....GREAT POST...sm - conspiracy theorist here
        • There are just too many weird things - with this - sm - Starcat
      • I think you are in the minority - Skeptical
        • Again, what if? That was my question to start with. - sm - Starcat
          • and *what if* you are wrong? - Skeptical
      • Great post, Starcat! - PK
        • Yes, PK, too many lies too many times - nm - Starcat

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Why are you so preoccupied with slutty women?  Who cares!  You have some underlying phobia regarding women and sex.  Weird!   

"Scarborough, no longer obligated to toe the pathetic Republican Party line, says it's totally irrelevant if Joe Wilson is a preening partisan who misled investigators about the role his wife played in recommending his Niger trip. The frantic efforts of the GOP attack machine to change the subject to Wilson shows how scared Republicans are that the master of their universe will be held accountable for Rove's destructive carelessness.

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So, Joe Scarborough and this columnist is admitting that Wilson mislead, but it's irrelevant.  So, what's I'm getting out of this is that it does not matter what we know Wilson did but it matters a whole lot about what we don't know for sure Karl Rove did.

That's just not passing the smell test one bit with me.

1:  His approval rating as I write this has now decreased to 29%.  (However, by the time you read this, it may be even lower yet.  He is most definitely *a work in progress,* and the number of Americans who are waking up and smelling the proverbial coffee is increasing at a rapid rate.

2.  The fact that the government has been tracking phone calls of hundreds of millions of Americans may be nothing more than a political *parking ticket* compared to what we might discover next week.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/12/19380/1332

NSA Whistleblower: There's More, People Are Going To Be Shocked

by georgia10

Fri May 12, 2006 at 04:38:00 PM PDT

From the subscription-only Congress Daily, Chris Strohm reports that NSA whistleblower Russell Tice will make some on bombshell revelations on Capitol Hill next week:

A former intelligence officer for the National Security Agency said Thursday he plans to tell Senate staffers next week that unlawful activity occurred at the agency under the supervision of Gen. Michael Hayden beyond what has been publicly reported, while hinting that it might have involved the illegal use of space-based satellites and systems to spy on U.S. citizens. Russell Tice, who worked on what are known as special access programs, has wanted to meet in a closed session with members of Congress and their staff since President Bush announced in December that he had secretly authorized the NSA to eavesdrop on U.S. citizens without a court order.  In an interview late Thursday, Tice said the Senate Armed Services Committee finally asked him to meet next week in a secure facility on Capitol Hill.

Tice was fired from the NSA last May. He said he plans to tell the committee staffers the NSA conducted illegal and unconstitutional surveillance of U.S. citizens while he was there with the knowledge of Hayden, who has been nominated to become director of the CIA. Tice said one of his co-workers personally informed Hayden that illegal and unconstitutional activity was occurring. [...] I think the people I talk to next week are going to be shocked when I tell them what I have to tell them. It's pretty hard to believe, Tice said. I hope that they¹ll clean up the abuses and have some oversight into these programs, which doesn't exist right now. [...]

Tice said his information is different from the Terrorist Surveillance Program that Bush  acknowledged in December and from news accounts this week that the NSA has been secretly collecting phone call records of millions of Americans. It's an angle that you haven't heard about yet, he said.

1. My eyes watching Scooter's conviction..  2.  Valerie Plame, the person who knows her situation best.  3. Patrick Fitzgerald.  Now there's a guy with a high IQ that was not manufactured by professional fact fixers.

Can someone explain what those things are outside the RNC.  I understand wanting to protest and you hold a sign up showing your viewpoint and maybe you yell out something you believe in, but I can't understant what those things are that are wearing masks, being dragged away, having to be hosed down by the police.

What a nonsense and insane world they must live in.  I'm all for freedom speech, but this is beyond my understanding. 

Also - don't they have jobs?  Do their employers allow them to take time off work to go do this and get arrested?  I want that job.  HA HA

You do not have the right to call someone ignorant just because they interpret those quotes as racist.  If you don't think they are racist, fine.....after all we are all entitled to our own opinions.  If you can't handle people having a different opinion than your own, don't bother reading or posting on the board.  Calling people names does not prove your point. 

Obviously there are other people on the board other than the original poster who feel those quotes were racist.  I have always thought Obama and his wife were racist and these quotes are just more proof of that.

posting for discussion.  they are recycling the old attacks about flag pins and trying to provoke silly discussions to distract from the precipitous plunge of the McClain campaign in the face of the wall street debacle.

turned around and said about Obama.  The lack of his experience.  He has never run anything.  He has consistetly voted present instead of making an executive decision of yes or no.  He has only been in the senate for 4 years and has spent more money on pork and earmarks in those 4 years than McCain has his whole political career.  Palin got rid of the personal jet the prior governor had.  She has made her state a success and she has given money back to her constituents.  She has the highest approval rating as governor.  You care about the money the RNC spent of Palin's clothes which will be given to charity and you don't comment about the millions and millions of dollars that Obama has spent during his campaign....not to mention the 2 million dollar shindig they are planning in Chicago during election...who is paying for that?  you bring up troopergate with Palin and yet you refuse to see Obama on committees with terrorists who gave money to radical groups.  All the money that Obama raised for educational purposes didn't improve the schools in his district at all.  The housing that was in his area for community organizer....especially the ones owned by Rezko were so bad that people had no heat during the Chicago winters.  The same Rezko who he had sketchy dealings with in order to buy his mansion for way less than what it is worth.  Obama the same man who attended church for 20 years where  the preacher did nothing but preach about how America sucks because it was run by whitey and blacks should take over.  Not to forget his cousin in Kenya who Obama campaigned for and gave money to and when his cousin lost the election....his followers rioted and killed innocent people.  Obama campaigned for him when he visited kenya.  What has Obama run successfully?  The housing in his district were not up to snuff.  The school he pledged to help with the committee he was on did not improve.  Are you not seeing a pattern here.

So go spout your BS somewhere else because this person, who has done her research, isn't listening.  Obama has many more sketchy things in his life than Palin and he has just as little experience.....and he is running for president....NOT VP. 

To me there are 2 glaring problems with this (besides the fact that she can't care for that many children)

1.  She is supposed to be on workers comp for her back, but she can carry a pregnancy of octuplets?  I would think workers comp would be investigating that.  It's one thing to have a bad back and accidentally get pregnant, but this was intentional.

2.  I think she's a certifiable nut, but isn't she majoring in psychology? 

factor into the car industry crisis.  First off, unions, in my opinion, are the bane of the car industry.  States that force unionization show a lower number of production, lower number of job growth, etc.  The states that do not force unions have a higher rating in production and job growth.  When the economy was booming, the unions didn't help but they weren't running business into the ground.  Now that the economy sucks....the unions are sucking the life out of the car industry. 

Next we have Americans buying foreign cars.  Not only does that send money to other countries but it is hurting American auto makers, etc.

Then you have the legacy costs that, just like the unions, were okay during a good economy but are now sucking the life out of the car industry.  To allow people to retire at 50 and then receive that kind of pension is insane.  They shouldn't be letting people retire that early....unless their health doesn't allow them to work.

Then you have the CEOs making huge amounts of money and other higher ups who are making millions to do absolutely nothing.

Now our economy stinks and people can't afford to buy cars and the ones who can are too afraid because the car industry is struggling as well as they are also scared of their own finances if this gets worse. 

All in all....we have succesfully killed the car industry.  Dealerships are closing doors like crazy.  Dealerships go a whole day with no traffic on the lot.  People are losing jobs left and right.  Factories are closing.  People are forced to take a week off each month, etc.  It is truly scary and we have greed to thank for this whole thing.  Greed in government.....greed in the unions.......and greed in CEOs, etc.

that will have to change and happen before I give much praise to the current administration.  As for Nasdaq going up....that is great but we will all have to wait and see if it stays up.

No matter what rhetoric you preach or how much kool-aid you drink, the fact of the matter is common sense.....you can't spend and borrow your way out of debt.  The current administration is making a huge mistake spending all of this money

Obama says he wants better education and yet he does away with vouchers and the teachers union does nothing but keep bad teachers employed.  You cannot let the teachers union control things and make education better at the same time....it just won't happen.  If we held teachers accountable and fired them for poor performance, the teacher's union would scream and shout. 

He wants national healthcare.  Who wants the government to decide how long people live and whether or not they should receive treatment or not?  Who wants government to tell you what procedures you can have done and when you can have them no matter how urgent your need is? 

He wants bigger government.  I don't want everything controlled by government.  That gives them too much power and they obviously are too greedy to handle such empowerment wisely for the sake of the American people. 

So what if the market is up.....whooptee do.  There are still so many things that Obama wants to do that I cannot agree with.  There are still too many crooked things going on in Washington with Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Tim Geithner, Pelosi, etc. 

For once I want a president and politicians to actually do things that are best for the American people.  Not what is best for the executives who gave them money for their campaign but the American people who work hard everyday and are struggling right now.  I'm tired of having a president in office who is being pulled by puppet strings. 

1.  I believe she meant that Glenn Beck had a heart for the soldiers.   Which he does. 

2.  There are a whole lot of us in the deep end with her.  And we like it here.   

1.  I understand your insecurity about having a president who can't think for himself as we've just been through 8 years of that.  However, this one actually has a mind of his own.  Imagine that.  Now that's what really scares you.  He thinks for himself and isn't swayed by the ridiculous temper tantrums of the party of NO.

2.  You are correct in saying that other countries didn't know what Bush would do next, he!!, WE didn't know what Bush would do next.  Kind of like the way we look at North Korea and Iran  --- we call them rogue nations, but when we do it, it's supposed to be the right thing to do?  Get real.

3.  Yes, I laugh at what you guys try to pass off as facts because the rationale for most of the statements on this board (which are usually just repeats from Fixed Noise) are absolutely comical.  Heads up...here comes Beck with a gas can!  I wonder how long it will take before they put him in a padded cell?