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I hadn't thought about it but we haven't heard much, if anything about whether we are yellow,

Posted By: Democrat on 2006-03-29
In Reply to: What if your skepticism is - misdirected? sm - Starcat




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hadn't heard about this. sm
What do you think about it?
Thank you, Sam. I hadn't heard of that...

BTW, it's great to see you back!!!!!!


I hadn't heard about Ben's comments either..sm
And one place I read that happened 5 years ago.
I hadn't thought about that............ sm
but I do believe you are right!

Have you looked at pictures of Bush from the beginning of his first administration and noticed how much he has aged? The stress of the job has to be unbelievable. I wonder what the youthful and vigorous Obama will look like in 4 years..........Rev. Wright? hahaha
Evidently you hadn't heard the latest.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
and
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76933

Good. I hadn't heard the news yet that he's finally
going up for trial. I've listened to all the stations but haven't heard it yet. It's about time. There's plenty that crowd needs to be held responsible for. However, this post was not about Bush is was about the messiah. How convenient for you to switch the subject.
I haven't heard anyone besides me say .....sm
good grief Gertie in a LONG time! hahahaha
There is nothing there I haven't heard
As I said, if this guy is so horrid, there has to be more than the same tired opinions about him than we have heard repeatedly for the last 2 years. As you said, thousands of people agree with these opinions, but millions of people voted for Obama. I didn't, in part because I was convinced there was something that hadn't been dug up yet. Now, I am not so sure. Everyone keeps blowing smoke, but no one has found the fire. Maybe there just isn't one.
Details please. I haven't heard about this
It seems pretty odd that he's offering to help low-income Americans since it seems he's an America hater. Do you have an article or documented info to back this up? Not that I don't believe you, but I haven't seen anything about this. Thanks!
I haven't heard that one - will have to check it out
I just think if she's (HC) is out there and has decided she should be president and she doesn't care how the people voted so she's going to have a bunch of people march and disrupt the convention, then I think every candidate who ran against Obama should do the same thing. Hey, why not just have the whole US vote again, and again, and again, and again until she gets the results she wants. Last I knew this was a democracy not dictatorship. I know exactly what she is trying to do. She's trying to tear the democrat party apart so McCain will win then she can run again in 4 years. She's ruthless....and worthless.
I guess you haven't heard
Kenya is not part of the US.

This copy of a bc is not official and not real. I've also heard he also has a Canadian birth certificate.

You gave a link that led me to the LA times. That is not a credible source as they are trying to get him elected and are suppressing vital information (i.e. in the form of a videotap). They are part of the cover up.

If BO was born in Hawaii he would have an official bc. He does not! He can't produce one because he doesn't have one.
they may be lost (haven't heard that though), but
at least she doesn't blatantly stand there and say So what, your not going to get them and there's nothing you can do about.
Actually he's the messiah - haven't you heard
I tried pulling up your link but it directed me somewhere else and not sure what you were reading.

However Farrahkan says he is the messiah and most O lovers believe that so they must follow Farrahkan too.

As for alien? Maybe he was sent by illegal aliens, but you never know. If O was not an American born citizen and never even applied to become an American citizen, he may indeed be an illegal alien himself. Time will tell.
Haven't heard that one yet - no message
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You obviously haven't heard the audio or seen
it was put out by a black radio reporter. He wasn't being racist. He had a reporter out in Harlem, which is where his studio is, and was asking questions and he got some really ignorant answers. HE was making fun of them.

Why is it posters on this board who have been slammed by obvious racist remarks towards whites haven't complained but you seem to think something that wasn't racist but put out on an audio is racist?
You haven't heard about the sudden explosion
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So did Joe Biden....and we haven't heard from him in awhile since.
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Haven't heard a word about Palin being "caught in the act." s/m

Funny, haven't heard of any crowds of 100,000+ like Obama.
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Just when I thought I'd heard it all . .
now someone is being criticized for being nice?  The human race never fails to disappoint me on a daily basis . . . so sad.
I briefly thought something similar when I first heard of him,
and the 'funny name' became a total non-issue. And I'm voting for him specifically BECAUSE he's had less 'experience' (i.e., he's not corrupted like all them good ol' boys.)
I heard this solution and thought it was interesting
Someone proposed that instead of bailing them out, you give 3.5 million to each American citizen. You let them tank (which they should and deserve), and those Americans who now have 3.5 million dollars can spend it in the economy, save it whatever way they want (back into the banking industry, etc), and the economy would build back up. Of course don't know all the details, just heard that and thought it was a pretty good solution and I can bet you all Americans would say yes to that plan.
I heard that too and thought he was talking about this country
Because he's saying they should do that, but yet he's not applying the same rules to the U.S.

Can we say...hipocrit. He needs to keep his mouth shut. I think he's changed his mind about three times. No wonder they are saying we are meddling. Oh, and then he says there is no difference between the two that were running against each other. Talk about speaking about something you are totally ignorant in. What's that saying from B. Franklin. - Better to keep one's mouth shut and appear foolish than to speak and remove all doubt". (not the exact words but I can't think of it right now.
I had heard about the tent cities, but never even thought about the increase in arsons. nm
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That's yellow dog DEMOCRAT to you.
Yellow dog DEMOCRATS. Get it straight.
Except for that the yellow cake
documents were a forgery. Whether anybody knew his wife was covert or not, the Niger yellowcake documents were a forgery. And that is part of the reasoning they used to to get us into the War. Its a real mess no doubt about it. Murky I guess would be a good word for it.
Better than a yellow dog attack by a liberal. SM
And if you would look, Cindy Sheehan and Robert Kennedy Jr. said it.
I have a yellow unicorn named Goldenrod...

See, anyone can make things up.  Some of the comments on this board are just insane.  Just because your fingers will allow you to type lies does not make them true.  How would you like someone to run around your community saying equally hateful, untrue things about you?


To be honest, I don't necessarily agree with McCain or Obama, so I'm not trying to defend one or the other, just trying to inject a little dose of reality. 


Maybe everyone who is spreading these things should try to back it up with a referrence to a reliable source. 


There was more outrage over the Dan Rather forgery than the yellow cake documents..sm
Pretty much sums up the state of affairs we find ourselves in.
I knew there was a reason I hadn't gotten my check yet...
I'm not dead!

Leave it to the Feds - this one is classic!!
If they hadn't lied - we wouldn't be in this war with a faceless enemy....nm
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I really agree with you, but since "they" have not extended the hadn across the aisle,......sm
so to speak, I felt that SOMEONE has to, we have to get this thinking ingrained and replacing this old, worn-out, stupid arcaic partison bullying and namecalling, and SOMEONE has to be the bigger person...why not an old Democrat like me??? :-) but I truly believe what I am saying also, friend!
There have been lots of states who have elected candidates and wished they hadn't. sm

I, too, find the Viggo mortensen tie-in a little strange. I had to reread the entire thread and I only saw Hollywood, no one specific named, was there? Other than Willie and he isn't Hollywood.  Anyhow, I don't like Dennis either.  I can remember when he was all over the news going to do something about the gasoline prices and never heard another word out of him after he was elected.  He's no different than most of them and no better than any of othem.


Follow the yellow brick road....follow....
the yellow brick road. The great and powerful O will take care care of you. Watch out for those flying monkeys he is surrounding himself with tho....LOL. You folks kill me. This is ALL on you. You gave him the power. Remember that....
I just thought it might be nice to hear an original thought. sm
I guess I was reaching.
Thought this was good so I thought I'd share

Down the drain?  Beware of Obama's plan to 'spread the wealth around'


By Betsy Newmark
High School History and Government Teacher/Blogger


If the McCain campaign can’t use this Obama quote to raise doubts about his attitude towards wealth and success, then they deserve the shellacking they seem headed for.


“Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed “more and more for fulfilling the American dream.”


“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too,” Obama responded. “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”


Plumbers of the country, unite! Forget about the work and effort you put into building up a business or the scummy work that you do that many of us don’t know or don’t want to do. If you have succeeded, you should be willing to give up more of what you earn to help those who haven’t had the great good luck that you have had to be a successful plumber. Remember how Obama is going to give 95% of all of us a tax cut even though over 30% of the population doesn’t pay taxes?



He might call it a tax credit, but what he’s really doing is his vision of “spreading the wealth around.” It sounds a lot like Huey Long’s 1935 plan to “Share the Wealth.” And when he finds that he can’t tax the top 5% of the population to gain enough wealth to spread to the 95% of the rest of us, do you really think that he’ll stop with that 5%?


Remember…This is the guy who said in the ABC debate during the primary season that his approach to raising tax on capital gains is not based on whether it would provide more revenue but on his idea of what is fair:


GIBSON: All right. You have, however, said you would favor an increase in the capital gains tax. As a matter of fact, you said on CNBC, and I quote, “I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton,” which was 28 percent. It’s now 15 percent. That’s almost a doubling, if you went to 28 percent.


But actually, Bill Clinton, in 1997, signed legislation that dropped the capital gains tax to 20 percent.


OBAMA: Right.


GIBSON: And George Bush has taken it down to 15 percent.


OBAMA: Right.


GIBSON: And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down.


So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?


OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.


Just what we need in these fragile economic times — a guy who wants to raise taxes because he thinks it’s a matter of “fairness” and time to “spread the wealth around.”


That will be some incentive for other plumbers who want to work hard and build up a successful business.


But don’t worry - according to Joe Biden, it’s the patriotic thing to do.


Haha! I thought I was the only one who thought he looked

I told you what I thought he thought....
and thank you so much for reducing it to "a piece."

That being said, here is link to article from Wall Street Journal about both candidates and outsourcing...Obama is not going to stop it either. He has said on the stump the answer is more highly educated American workers to compete.

It seems to me, and although you may think this is also a "piece," that if you put our corporate tax rates lower, if that corporation is inclined to hire Americans and not outsource then they will do so.

You honestly think the majority of corporations just WANT to outsource and taxes don't matter?


How do you know they haven't?

That's the whole point.  Bush acts like a dictator in complete privacy.  Of course nobody can name names because this president thinks he can spy on whoever he wants without ever telling the person.


The sooner they impeach him, the safer this country will be.


No I haven't
but I'll try to remember to check it out.

At church last week our preacher had just gotten up to preach and he had just told us to turn to a Bible verse. So we all looked down to turn to the verse and when we looked up he was gone. Apparently he had stepped through the side door to go get a drink of water. Of course he came back out two minutes later, but someone made the joke that the rapture had come and he was the only one taken. It was pretty funny. Of course if it had really happened we'd have all of been with him (well hopefully, as I'm sure you know there are people in church who aren't really Christians!)
No, I haven't but
I'm seriously considering it...on a local level, of course, where I'm qualified.  If I were younger............
I haven't seen that but I have seen others
There are just some very strange people in this country who think nothing of putting themselves on youtube giving their opinions (no matter what the subject). In today's world I would never ever put my face out for all to see stating my opinion. On this board is one thing (and even then I'm always concerned about what I post and who is watching it), but sometimes it's best to keep ones feelings to oneselves, especially if it is negative. The thought police are out there and you just never know what will come back at you for the worst.
I haven't seen her lately
When the election was going on (still when Hillary was running against Obama) and even shortly after the primaries ended I really enjoyed her. I thought she was level headed and brought out some good discussions and issues, but then towards the end of the election (maybe a couple weeks before 11/4) I found her starting to become opinionated and she jumped down someones throat about something that I thought she was clearly wrong on. She just became irritating and got under my skin a bit. I also really used to like Keith Olberman, but his coverage of the election was so unfair and between Keith and Rachel I just found them opinionated and not reporting facts and stuff so I kind of lost interest. Maybe I should try watching them again. It's funny about Hannity and Colmes. I cannot stand Hannity. He's just too uppity and goody two shoes and even D Morris would tell him stop focusing on certain issues and report on the other important ones and he doesn't listen. He annoys the you know what out of me. But Colmes...this guy is a crack up. I used to not be able to stand him. Now I enjoy listening to him. I don't agree with a lot of what he says, but I'll listen. I can take him a lot more than the others because he doesn't gloat about the O winning whereas the others do.

So I'll have to catch her show again and see if she's gotten better. Thanks for reminding me about her.

I'll tell you...if Bush is able to pardon himself....I think there is going to be a huge uproar. Mind as well just let the criminals decide what punishment they should get.
I haven't seen that.........sm
and don't know when it was made, but you can bet your bottom dollar that at the time it was made, that statement was probably meant to be comic relief.  The average US citizen would have laughed at such a statement prior to this presidential election. 
sorry, no they haven't......
There is tons of pork barrel in that package. Even the moderate democrats are sickened by all the crap in there and refuse to pass it. Obama must have forgotten the part where he said absolutely no pork barrel spending! Yea, right!
I haven't seen any
poll takers out asking mainstream America their opinion, only the fabricating media and perverted judges telling us how wonderful homosexuality is. The rest of America finds the act of homosexuality deplorable. ;-)
Really? You haven't?

Just to take the first point:  How about a speech he gave in 2008 which he criticized the US because most of us speak one measly language, while Europeans often speak 2 or 3?  There is actually a pretty good reason for that, by the way.  A person could drive in Europe a distance equal to the trip from Cincinnati to Chicago and pass through several countries.  Some countries even have several dialects. Many European countries are tiny.  Being multilingual in Europe is very practical.  America is huge and people a couple of thousand miles away can understand one another in a single language, from youse guys to y'all.


I don't remember ever hearing a US president or presidential candidate publicly criticize his country the way this one has (well, maybe Kerry).  And of course our foreign critics simply lap it up.  I think Michelle Obama has some foreign language skills, but I've got to wonder in what second and third languages Barack himself is fluent.  Surely he must be.....


I was unable to find the full text/location/date of the speech I am referring to, but here's a link to an article on it.  Sorry, it does seem to be an piece that is overall critical of the great man, but then the mainstream would probably not have mentioned this at all


http://www.libertylounge.net/forums/32918-obama-again-shows-how-out-touch.html


Oh, by the way, no spam file, I wrote it.  Whether or not you find it witty, it's the way I view O's public criticism of the US, as though we are a collection of bumpkins he's stuck with and trying desperately to fix up.


Hey! Haven't seen you in a while...nm
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What makes you think they haven't.
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I haven't been here that long but
long enough to see clearly how immaturely they operate.  PHEW!
Then you haven't been listening.

I have seen at least four conservatives express concerns about Bush on several occasions, and they even elucidated them. Of course, you would have to take off those blinders to see them but you aren't about to do that.  What a joke.  As far as your remarks about racisms, I consider your remarks extremely racist.  And never mind the fact that black Americans, one of whom was quoted here, are also defending Bennett.  Their voices don't count because they must be Uncle Tom's, right.  AGAIN, a racist way of thinking.