There are plenty of misspeaks to be found
Posted By: Hello on 2008-04-01
In Reply to: Obama Contradiction - sm.
from ALL the candidates from both parties. That doesn't make it right but arguing over whose misspeak is the worse doesn't get us anywhere.
So don't bother to duck. I'm not gonna throw anything.
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Misspeaks misspoken.
CNN is only a little less conservative than Fox, but not by a whole lot. Neither one of them is “fair” or “balanced.” It not so much a question of what they do report, rather one of what they don’t. It takes a dem to know a dem and those guys on Fox are what Fox calls "the other side" in a lame attempt to justify their "fair and balanced" slogan. On the rare occasion that they have a dem on their programs who is not on the Fox payroll, Fox commentators proceed to interrupt, talk over, pan to other panelist and cut off all together. For an independent, you certainly seem to spend much your spare time digging up dirt on Obama. Dems and independents are recognized by their ideology, not their labels.
About those gaffes. The dates cited are helpful to place all these statements in the middle of a frenzied primary schedule. McCain gets this same consideration when examining his gaffes. Eight out of ten of Obama’s gaffes have been addressed and answered and will be left up to the reader(s) to accept, reject or ignore. That leaves 2 out of 10 misspeaks that Obama appears to be unaware of (the NAs). The issue is not misspeaks in the first place. It is the legitimate concern over senility and Alzheimer’s, which was addressed in the post below, “Don’t be Scared…Get Smart.” At age 46, for Obama, this will never be a concern, even if he serves 8 years, but for McCain, it has the potential to be a problem within 8 minutes of his inauguration speech and that is a really scary proposition for many.
We are stretched so thin in Iraq and Afghanistan that he is perfectly correct to say “we do not have the capacity.” Capacity for what? Obama still has this crazy notion that Bin Laden and Al-Quaeda/Taliban/ are responsible for 9/11, not the late Saddam and the entire population of Iraq. Efforts to capture the mastermind have been unsuccessful to date and he would like to wrap up that unfinished piece of business. Demoralizing his followers would be a nice perk. Chances are we could find a whole lot more Al-Quaeda/Taliban leaders and operatives hanging around in an Islamic Shiite country like Afghanistan rather than a secular Sunni country such as Iraq. “Not just troops.” Arms, tanks, surveillance, air support and so forth could come in handy. So would funding.
The passage about translators and agricultural specialists appears in this link:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/14/obama-stumbles-on-iraq-afghanistan/
Hot air. How appropro. A corrected mistake does not a mistake make. Obama mixed up a language and corrected himself. McCain mixed up country, religion, terrorist groups and their geography in one fell swoop, and had to be corrected by an aide.
The oil field resource assistance statement is misleading. Obama said nothing about poppies in Iraq. Hot air did. With regard to the agricultural specialists and US assistance, might want to skim over these links for starters, instead. Google “food security Iraq” for more.
http://antiwar.com/jamail/?articleid=10554
http://www.fas.usda.gov/icd/iraq/iraq.asp
http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/accomplishments/foodsec.html
Go here to see a map of how the wall separates the UT at Brownsville main campus from its International Technology, Education and Commerce Campus. Seeing is believing.
http://notexasborderwall.blogspot.com/2007/09/brownsville-no-border-wall-pachanga-in.html
Sunshine/Sunrise: NA
Sioux City/Sioux Falls. Corrected himself. Didn’t need an aide to do this for him. Not only did he know where he was, but he offered to explain and apologized. The rest of the statement is omitted in this post: “I said it wrong. I’ve been in Iowa for too long. I’m sorry.”
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/16/obama-to-sioux-falls-thank-you-sioux-city/
DOMA: Nothing inconsistent in Obama’s statement. Go here to read the nature of the act: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Marriage_Act. You will find this passage, with which Obama agrees. “DOMA Section 2 is occasionally argued to be unnecessary, regardless of whether it is constitutional. If the legal pronouncements of one state conflict with the public policy of another state, federal courts in the past have been reluctant to apply the law of another state in contravention of its own public policy. The public policy exception has been applied in cases of marriage such as polygamy, miscegenation or consanguinity.”
Grand Rapids/Rapid City: AGAIN, he is aware of himself, without the help of an aide, and jokes about his “mistake.”
57 states: This dead horse has been effectively addressed in the post below, “Don’t be scared….Get smart.” No need to repeat it here.
Matt/Tim: NA.
Obama never misspeaks, does he?
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McCain misspeaks on Iraq
Dems pounce when McCain misspeaks on Iraq GOP candidate erroneously claims Iran is training AL Qaida in Iraq JERUSALEM - Senator John McCain’s trip overseas was supposed to highlight his foreign policy acumen, and his supporters hoped that it would showcase him in a series of statesmanlike meetings with world leaders throughout the Middle East and Europe while the Democratic candidates continued to squabble back home. But all did not go according to plan on Tuesday in Amman, Jordan, when Mr. McCain, fresh from a visit to Iraq, misidentified some of the main players in the Iraq war. Mr. McCain said several times in his visit to Jordan — in a news conference and in a radio interview — that he was concerned that Iran was training Al Qaeda in Iraq. The United States believes that Iran, a Shiite country, has been training and financing Shiite extremists in Iraq, but not Al Qaeda, which is a Sunni insurgent group. Claim, correction Mr. McCain said at a news conference in Amman that he continued to be concerned about Iranians “taking Al Qaeda into Iran, training them and sending them back.” Asked about that statement, Mr. McCain said: “Well, it’s common knowledge and has been reported in the media that Al Qaeda is going back into Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran. That’s well known. And it’s unfortunate.” It was not until he got a quiet word of correction in his ear from Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut, who was traveling with Mr. McCain as part of a Congressional delegation on a nearly weeklong trip, that Mr. McCain corrected himself. “I’m sorry,” Mr. McCain said, “the Iranians are training extremists, not Al Qaeda.” Democrats pounce Mr. McCain has based his campaign in large part on his assertion that he is the candidate best prepared to deal with Iraq, and the Democrats wasted little time in jumping on his misstatement to question his knowledge and judgment. “After eight years of the Bush administration’s incompetence in Iraq, McCain’s comments don’t give the American people a reason to believe that he can be trusted to offer a clear way forward,” Karen Finney, a spokeswoman for the Democratic National Committee, said in a statement. “Not only is Senator McCain wrong on Iraq once again, but he showed he either doesn’t understand the challenges facing Iraq and the region or is willing to ignore the facts on the ground.” Brian Rogers, a spokesman for the McCain campaign, responded: “In a press conference today, John McCain misspoke and immediately corrected himself by stating that Iran is in fact supporting radical Islamic extremists in Iraq, not Al Qaeda — as is reflected in the transcript. The reality is that the American people have deep concerns about the Democratic candidates’ judgment and readiness on matters of national security, and that’s why the D.N.C. launched their attack today.” The Democrats noted that Mr. McCain, Republican of Arizona, had made similar comments about Iran training Al Qaeda in an interview with “The Hugh Hewitt Show,” a radio program he called from Amman. “As you know, there are Al Qaeda operatives that are taken back into Iran, given training as leaders, and they’re moving back into Iraq,” Mr. McCain said, according to a transcript posted on the show’s Web site. Previous missteps It was not the first time that Mr. McCain’s remarks during a Congressional trip overseas have caused headaches for his campaign. It was nearly a year ago that his talk about the improving security situation in Iraq made headlines, after a trip he made to a marketplace there was guarded by more than 100 soldiers in armored Humvees and attack helicopters, becoming fodder for Democrats and critics of the war. Mr. McCain later said he misspoke. And in a speech he gave last April about the need to succeed in Iraq, he made light of it. “I just returned from my fifth visit to Iraq,” he said. “Unlike the veterans here today, I risked nothing more threatening than a hostile press corps.” The latest trip was a Congressional fact-finding mission, but Mr. McCain, a presidential candidate, planned to hold a fund-raiser on Thursday at a stop in London. He traveled with two senators who strongly support his presidential bid: Mr. Lieberman, an independent of Connecticut, and Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina. Their trip to Iraq on Sunday coincided with one by Vice President Dic*k Cheney; both trips, in which the visitors spoke about the improvements in Iraq, were somewhat overshadowed by a bombing on Monday that killed more than 40 people in Karbala. From Iraq, Mr. McCain traveled to Jordan, and then here to Israel, where he and his colleagues paid their respects at Yad Vashem, the Holocaust museum, and then met with President Shimon Peres of Israel at his residence. Mr. Peres called Mr. McCain a good friend of Israel. And noting that Mr. McCain had been hopping all over the Middle East, Mr. Peres told him, “I really admire your courage and stamina.” http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23697639/
Oh, I have said plenty here.
You just don't read it.
Oh, I appreciate them plenty! sm
I was raised on them. Had a big ol' pot of beans with cornbread and homemade bread and butter pickles yesterday for dinner. Sho 'nuff wuz good, too!
You can have my portion of possum, though. Gives me indigestion. ;o)
Well, there has been plenty of that...lol (sm)
And I'm sure there will be more. The reality of the situation is yes, she was thrown under the bus. She also made the DECISION to put herself in the limelight, knowing (just like everyone else in that spot) that she would be scrutinized. It was a JOKE! Lighten up....besides, I told you not to look.
Ah, but that's not all. She has plenty more
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LOL! No, there's plenty.
In fact, there's a new "crow," it seems, every day!!
Thanks for the good wishes, GP. 
Well, so far there's been plenty with O to keep you
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There are plenty of us who get
TechSupport. Just because you lack the intelligence or refuse to stop drinking kool-aid...doesn't mean the rest of us are like you. If you don't like TechSupport....don't read his posts. If you can't reply without being petty, don't bother replying. The childishness is getting old here.
Yup, he's got plenty of constituents who'd like him out.
Nothing like earning respect like this:
http://philly.metro.us/metro/local/article/Who_wants_to_be_Santorum/3165.html
Again, there will still be plenty who will carry her. sm
She isn't going to change and she shouldn't. She is no more outrageous than Molly Ivins and some of the far left pundits. She will always have a following.
Wrong...there were plenty (sm)
who were telling her to get out. Like I said earlier, I do not support any of the current candidates. Based on the length of your posts, it seems that you spend way too much time focused on something you have no control over, but that's just my opinion.
Here is some...you can research for more yourself...there is plenty
on the net.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-08-24-Biden-son_N.htm
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/5965332.htm
More on MBNA connection to Biden:
http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=ZDU4OTdhMTFhN2YwZTY3MmMzNGFhYzc3ODdhOTA0ZjQ
More on lobbyists...they all have them on staff:
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/lobbyists-on-obamas-08-payroll-2007-12-20.html
http://www.newsweek.com/id/138519
There is plenty of blame to go around...
However, Bill Clinton is not trying to rewrite history and take credit for keeping the United States safe since 9/11.
He has to do this so he will have plenty of people
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We have had plenty of terrorist
AND after 9/11.
- USS Cole.
- 2000 New Year attack attempt at Los Angeles Airport, but stopped at Port Angeles, WA ferry terminal during Clinton.
- New York Bomb Subway in 1997 with Clinton in office.
My gosh, there is a whole list of terrorist attack attempts.
I am sure there are plenty of them who use prostitutes sm
in the District of Criminals, left and right. They only out them when they become a problem - i.e. Eliot Spitzer blowing the whistle on Wall Street before the election.
Wrong - there are plenty
You go ahead and think there are no people who can "hold a candle to him". C'mon you really need to stop drinking the kool-aid. Do you know every single politician in this country? I don't think so. There are a lot of unknown politicians out there who are much better than what is in there and also a lot of well known politicians more qualified. Right now we just have a continuation of the Bush Admin.
At the rate he's going he'll be lucky if he isn't impeached for bringing the country down.
So unless you know every single candidate (republican and independent because we could be seeing the first Independent President in history in 2012) it would be wise to keep these uneducated statements to yourself.
As Ben Franklin once said -
"It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt".
And, unfortunately, you have plenty of "inane"
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Yes, i have plenty to keep me busy. Your attitude
just makes you seem somewhat sexist and I really was just curious?
No problem. Plenty of time for that.
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Yeah, and plenty of them are on this board. sm
I don't relate to them, or SP, whatsoever. I do relate to the women commenting on that blog, and I believe others who visit this board will too, which is why I gave the url. Enjoy.
i've seen plenty of comments
regarding religion... obama and mccain.... seen it a bit more with obama with good reason, when you hear what his pastor of 20 years has said.
I know plenty of kids in our schools who would
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I have said plenty of things against Mccain
And if it wouldn't be just a wasted vote I would write in another candidate. But the bottom line is Obama is way to liberal. If there was a democratic candidate who was more middle of the road and upheld Christian values I would most certainly vote for him or her. I could care less about republican or democratic parties. Heck this is my first year voting! I think the voting age should be 21 because most 18 year olds are not intelligent enough to go out and really learn about the candidates. They just want to vote for the rock star who promises change. Forget what the change is. He's just so COOL.
Last time I checked COOL wasn't on the lists of requirements for presidential candidate.
There was plenty of mean spirited on the O side too
The last three days of his campaign reeked of mean-spirited.
oh, they'll change plenty!
It just won't entail anything you're requesting! Now that all 3 tiers of DC will be run by the Dems, and let me clarify the far-left wing of that party (Obama #1 most lib, Ted Kennedy #2, Joe Biden #3, clearly documented if you don't believe me).
The election is over, and I'm not here to start a fight over anything. But what I'm saying can be proven in a year from now, 2 years, etc., so I'll make a point to keep this as a reference. Those who voted for this tax-loving group (x3: House, Senate, WH) apparently doesn't mind doing the "American" thing, per Joe Biden. That's what he said about paying taxes. So make a side-by-side comparison for each pay check you get so you can see how much more you'll be taxed once the Dems are running what may turn into a filibuster-proof Senate (the only reason they took Joe Lieberman back). Of course, they have John McCain as well, the man who is more comfortable dissing the conservatives than he is trying to pretend he's one (other than nat'l security & pro-life, basically).
The Republicans got exactly what they deserved, too. Conservatism didn't and will never die, but the GOP took conservatism out of its party the past several years, and this is why they were punished in a big way. That's the only way the GOP can rebuild itself from the gound up.
When I saw the less than 10-minute "movie" called HowObamaGotElected, it was more shocking than I had even realized. Every voter should see this, then give whatever news station(s) you prefer should get a huge reprimand from all the voters who were spoon-fed all this stuff.
Maybe DC will bail this industry out, too. After all, it's free money, right? I've been down this road with Columbia. I picked myself up and moved on down the road. One of my closest friends worked for Enron and lost well over $100K, which was nothing compared to many more there. She, like I, didn't waste her time saying things about the players. She certainly didn't expect the gov't to bail her out, either.
What makes you say that? There's plenty of time.
More than a month before the new administration even gets its feet wet. Besides, there is no statute of limitations on war crimes, and Bush is going to be around for quite some time.
Plenty of what? Lies? Propaganda?
You don't sound like a very thoughtful person. Have you ever stopped to consider what life under occupation has been like for the past 3 generations (60 years)? Probably not. Please notice that that would encompass nearly 40 years of time BEFORE Hamas ever showed up on the scene. If you are OK with having your tax dollars bankroll a blood-thirsty fascist apartheid occupier and have no regard for the suffering it has caused, that speaks for itself. BTW, Hamas is not invading itself.
Let me leave you with this little piece of info to ponder. Hamas weapons amount to stones, home-made pipe bombs and rockets that cannot make their mark. Israel's arsenal includes Assault rifles, submachine guns, machine guns, sniper rifles, shotguns, pistols,
Semi-automatics, breach grenades, SWAT rifles, Isherman, Sho't, Magach, Sabra and Merkava tanks, Davidka, Makmat and Soltam M-66 mortars, Soltam, Rascal, Sholef and IDF howitzers, cargo, sea scan, fighter and trainer aircraft, Shaldaq, Dvora and Super Dvora patrol boats, Sa'ar 3, 4 and 5-class missle boats, Sa'ar 5-class corvettes, Gal class and Dolphin submarines, Trophy and Iron Fist protection systems, Flight Guard airborne countermeasures systems, Machbet anti-aircraft weapons, Barak surface-to-air missiles, SPYDER air-defense system, Arrow anti-ballistic missiles, Tactical High Energy Laser, Iron Dome short-range rocket defense system, David's Sling medium-range rocket defense system, B-300 and Shipon shoulder-launched missiles, shoulder-lanched multipurpose assault weapons, FGM-172 SRAWs, MAPATS, Spike, Nimrod and LAHAT ATGMs, Shafrir, Derby and Python air-to-air missiles, Gabriel naval anti-ship missiles, Popeye air-to-surface missiles, LORA theater and Jericho ballistic missiles, Nimda, Trail Blazers, IDF Nagmachon, IDF Nakpadon, IDF Puma, IDF Achzarit, Namer IFV, Nemmera ARV, AIL Storm, Plasan Sand Cat, Wolf Armoured and Golan Armored fighting vehicles, IMI Mastiff, Casper 250, IAI Searcher, IAI Hary, IAI I-View, IAI Ranger, IAI Heron, IAI RQ-2 Hunter, Elbit Skylark, Elbit Hermes and Aeronautics Defense Dominator unmanned fighter vehicles, Typhoon close-in weapon system, Kilshon anti-radiation missile launchers, Caterpillar D7/D9 armored bulldozers, Enhanced Tactical Computers, LITENING targeting pods, Spice EO-GPS PGM guidance kits, Shavit spaceflight launch vehicle, EROS earth observation satellite and Ofeg reconnaissance satellites. Oops, I almost forgot the WMDs, including chemical, biologic and, of course, the nukes.
Any reasonable person who compares the arsenals and fatalities, including my 10-year-old, can figure out who the terrorists are.
We showed plenty of patriotism..(sm)
last Nov 4. Now THAT was a grass roots movement. Maybe you guys just didn't have the right kind of leadership for this thing. Maybe next time you should look into getting a community organizer.....
Excuse me, but plenty of us ARE paying
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You spend plenty of time cat fighting when
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NO kidding he gets plenty of media attention without them...
I am surprised that the other media doesn't have nymphs throwing rose petals on his path. But wait...we haven't had Invesco field yet. Maybe that is where the nymphs will come in. The Obama girl is in Denver I hear. lol.
As far as Fox being biased...I saw at least two of them tearing up talking about what a historical moment it was that a black man had ascended to being the first to be nominated by a major party. It WAS moving, for that reason.
This post is extremely intolerant. How is saying he doesn't do well in unscripted situations mean that I hate him and am trying to dig up dirt? Seems more like the poster hates anyone who doesn't say something positive about Obama. It is an observation...I have seen him in unscripted situations and he does not do well. If he thinks O'Reilly is tough, wait until he sits down with Medvedev.
Campaign politics. Plenty of hate to go around.
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I am plenty old to vote, study all the issues, as well
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You made plenty sense, Marmann.... sm
I hope you feel better soon!
And plenty of American-made weapons!
It's a shame when the only place you can find "Made in the USA" any more is on weapons!
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/CNN_U.S._weapons_create_Gaza_civilian_0102.html
I read plenty, thank you. History will prove your
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He gave her plenty of time to answer
He talked and then he shut up and let her talk and answer the question. And all she said was I believe all woman have the right to run for office. He did tell her that if she can prove that she defended Palin he will apologize to her. My bet....she will not be able to prove it. She's a hypocrite pure and simple.
You know it's like listening to Chris Matthews and Chris Matthews came out when a question was thrown at him about not letting his guest speak. He told his guest. I will let you speak but if I think your giving me the "B" I'm going to keep drilling you until you speak the truth. No different than O'Reilly.
The public deserves the truth.
He gave her plenty of time to answer
the question and she just kept saying the same crap. She never directly answered his questions. Bill nailed her though on not sticking up for Sarah Palin. If you are going to stick up for women's rights.....stick up for all women and not just the liberal ones. That isn't fair or balanced either. That organization is hypocritical.
As for what he said about Helen....who cares. I'm sure she is a tough enough woman that she doesn't care what Bill O'Reilly says about her. And truly....what is up with the "so-called terrorists." They are terrorists...not so called ones. Who can really dispute how creepy that woman looks....I mean....come on. Helen has been around long enough that I'm sure she has thick skin and didn't give a rats behind what O'Reilly says about her. I mean....come on.
This is petty. Get over it. More important things to discuss than whether or not Bill O'Reilly was overly rude by saying her voice sounded like the wicked witch on the Wizard of Oz.
Sadly, there are plenty of wimpy miserable little
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Plenty of non-religious folks that believe homosexuality
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There is plenty of conservative activity there. Stop whining.
Biden has plenty of foreign policy experience.
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He was on a board with Ayres and so were plenty of repubs, no biggie
I dated someone who was a liar and I'm not a liar. This is just a bunch of crap because they can't get anything on My SWEET OBIE.
I read plenty thanks! You can blame loss of life
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Plenty! Intelligent People Can Find Volumes
Others...well, they just obviously don't know where to look. Sorry about you.
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You call that an excuse? There are plenty of churches that offer those things!! nm
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Ohhh, yeah! I still have plenty duct tape and candles left over, so I should be aiight :):) nm
What I found so far
I see where Perle and Rice take exception to some of his statements, but that's all I could find. And I guess that would expected as they do have to protect themselves. Also, it's very hard to find opinions that do not have a noticeable right or left slant. If anyone out there has suggestions on middle-of-the-road, non-politically-sided information sites please let me know.
My point was how many people have to step forward and report that the White House manipulated the truth before it gets addressed? How many can you dismiss as saying they had a book to sell, or they were protecting their careers, etc.? At what point does some of what they are saying (Clark, Tenet, Powell to name a few) become believable?
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