This poster periodically goes on strange

• Outsourcing/China (warning - rant) - Pugmom
  • You lost me at Dems coined the phrase - I don't trust your facts
    • This poster periodically goes on strange - sm
  • All O is doing is trying to stripped Americans of ALL - TRUE civil liberties........ MsMT
    • Really? Can you name - just one?
  • Where do you see this domestic terrorist stuff? I'd be interested in sm - CDW
    • Where have you been the last 2-3 weeks, out of town??? sm - MT and worn out
      • What it really said about war vets - was it feared that dangerous
      • On vacation and not watching the news, thanks. I don't spend all my time sm - CDW
      • Sounds a bit too much like Bush's tactics. - Don't like that if it's true
  • Amen, sister! - CrankyBeach

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He received a Christmas card when he was recovering in the VA Hospital.  The card said it hoped he died.  A picture of the car and the article are on the conservative board.  Lots of GIs got spit on coming home during Vietnam.  I don't call that strange. I call it abominable and unforgivable.

I do not get.

Me need new insult, yes.

That it will all come down to us.

I certainly hope that's true because we hate Hillary AND McCain.

First reaction is if these issues, which have been posted on O's website ever since he launched his campaign, are of such sudden concern to the cons and femocons, why did they not get addressed during the RNC?  Do you not see the high-jack strategy as the cons try to talk out of both sides of their mouths and reinvent themselves as the new age liberals?  How is this different than the now exposed folly of the compassionate conservative Bush/Cheney ploy?   

Small business.  Either you can't read, you think that we can't or your spin cycle is stuck in high gear.  Go here:  http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#small-business.  Plans to give tax relief for small businesses and startups, eliminate capital gains taxes on them and provide a $500 new making work pay tax credit (one of many) for workers.  For all those IC MTs out there, this is aimed at reducing the burden of double taxation in the current structure where small businesses pay both employer AND employee side of payroll tax.  Obama will INVEST $250 million per year in support of entrepreneurship, by creating national network of public-private business incubators to facilitate start-up creation.  Your $250,000/yr figure applied to tax cuts on INDIVIDUALS who earn in excess of that amount.  Therefore, your offshore, job loss, and massive flight to lower income argument does not hold water on this point.  Please cite the right-wing rag you have taken this $6 billion dollar additional tax on small business claim.  I'm not finding that in O's plan.  The tax breaks to the "lower brackets" (losing their homes, can't decide whether to get medicine or food this month, and if they are lucky, can gas their tank once a month) is addressed below.    

On the plight of the struggling rich.  Define rich, please.  From the bottom, INDIVIDUAL incomes in excess of $250,000/yr might look about right.  From the top, $5 million a year maybe (one of McC's not-so-funny jokes, some would wonder).  The 90% of the federal tax bill claim must be a typo.    Go here for 2008 info: http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2008/04/the_rich_and_their_taxes.html. Our top 1% of filers pay 40% or tax burden.  An accurate argument would include these facts as well.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distribution_of_wealth.  In the United States at the end of 2001, 10% of the population owned 71% of the wealth, and the top 1% controlled 38%. On the other hand, the bottom 40% owned less than 1% of the nation's wealth.  Let's say that one more time.  Top 1% gets 38%, bottom 40% get less than 1%.  Since they are not earning a living wage, probably that is why they cannot afford to pay tax.  Got the picture?

There is only one reason our long suffering corporations are taking their business overseas.  Greed.  They do not want to pay their share and they get tax incentives currently for outsourcing.  Do not take us down the path of needing to address sweat shop working conditions, 7-day work weeks, $2/day wages in developing countries where US labor laws do not apply.  Greed is not a universal American value.    

There you go again.  Please try to keep this discussion in the context of McCain plans and how they are different than Bush plans.  You are spinning way out in right field without a paddle on that ridiculous statement about keeping people in lower brackets.  What in the world make you think this kind of ignorance is going to help JM/SP win the election. 

Preying on discontent, fear and division was a blatent and nauseating subtext for the RNC this entire week.  I do agree with inspecting history, and the history that is under the microscope now is Bush/Cheney and JM voting history.  Do you really want to bring up govt "borrowing."  Again, Bush is the record setter in this regard and while we are talkin' W, don't forget the Bush slash and burn policies toward our seniors.  Here's a link for you to a rather exhaustive analysis on 12 reason privatizing social security is a bad idea.  http://www.socsec.org/publications.asp?pubid=503.  You can get back to me on that one with your rebuttal.  My question would be putting WHICH people before WHICH party? 

Survey Americans on which party they associate election fraud with in the past, say, 30 years or so and tell me what you come up with.  So you forgot to mention what JM's plan is on this one.   Again, just saying no to personal attacks and steering you back on course.  JM's plan for lobbying and earmarks is what exactly.  I see O has one. 

JM hate war?  LMAO.  So what was all that military service orgie this week all about?   The entire McCain family for generations have shown to us just how much they hate war.  Where is his war prevention strategy?  Did I miss the part where he sang Give Peace a Chance?  Sam, really, do you care nothing about your own credibility or that of your candidates?  Am laughing too hard to comment further on this. 

Here's a link for you to serve as a primer on the Patriot Act controversy.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act#Controversy.  Will not address the attempts you are making to minimize the unconstitutional aspect of this legislation.  I would like an explanation as to how RNC protestors engaging in destruction of private property, vandalism, resisting arrest, disturbing the peace and such have suddenly been charged with terrorism?  The we have not been attacked yet defense does not make me feel warm and fuzzy about standing legislation that violates the constitution 9 ways to Sunday.  Far mongering does not a justification make.  O's plan demonstrates ways to tackle terrorism that do not involve trashing the constitution. 

There are many issues swirling around the separation of church and state.  Christian theocracy will be kept in the marginal fringes where they belong.  Religious principles will not be incorporated into laws that seek to remove a woman's right to control her own body.  Freedom from religion is also at stake here as are hate crime definitions that provide protection for Moslems in the US.  That is the freedom the cons overlook every time. 

The link to this video is somehow automatically rerouted to a different one so every time I cut and paste it, it goes to the other video. 

If you search for "I invented the Internet Obama" that is the correct video that I was trying to share.

I don't know who it was, but those *in the know* have pegged him/her as an alcoholic.

Whoever it was, the person was definitely radical, no doubt about that.  If you respond with your email address, I will email you and tell you what it was, as well as the alleged *profanity* that Stephen used.  Then you can judge for yourself whether it was legitimate or blown out of proportion.

beat you in a BE-AU-TY contest or something? here kitty, kitty.

was referring to.  Not sure because this article refers to Palin being there and not McCain, but maybe the poster meant McCain as a whole and not the ind.  Anway here is the link.

www.newsminer.com/news/2008/sep/09/palin-headlining-fundraiser-california-billionaire/

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Something is not right about this election.

First, Obama does not defeat Clinton, but is nominated anyway.
Second, ACORN is openly engaged in massive voter registration fraud, and the authorities are doing nothing to stop it.
Third, Obama is awash with millions donated from abroad.
Fourth, the global banking system suddenly collapses, oh, just a month before the election.
Fifth, the Republicans are holding back?!

I think the entire sham is being orchestrated. Are there supranational forces behind the scenes, coordinating the seizure of U.S. banks while propping up a candidate with zero substance? What’s this “change” we keep hearing so much about?

the primaries who waxed about how wonderful with Obama as president it would be to walk out to the mailbox and get another stimulus check like the $600.00 one received previously under the Bush administration, although the poster just knew it was going to be much more than $600.00.  Life was exciting just to look forward to another check in the mailbox.  Sort of like the woman who said, "Obama gonna pay my mortgage and put gas in my car" entitlement attitude.

I guess that old adage is still true:  There's a sucker born every minute. 

The only thing Americans are going to get from this porkulus package is higher taxes, more lost jobs, and a day of reckoning, the day Obama gets on TV and finally announces what every clear-thinking American already knows, we are bankrupt, and our biggest debt holder, China, is calling in the debt and taking us over.  Well, somebody's got to pay the debt to the biggest debt holder.  Considering China's treatment of its own people, just how do you think Americans will be treated?

I can just hear the weeping and gnashing of teeth from the Obamatons when they finally have to say, "He lied to me."     Instead of MT jobs going to India, they will all be in China.  Better visit Rosetta Stone, the fastest way to learn Chinese.

Obama is nothing more than a merchant of false hope.  At least 49% of our population had the good sense to recognize it. 

After Obama throws at least another trillion dollars we don't have at the economic problems, puts some people to work building new roads, institutes another dozen or so failed plans by the top economists of our day, it will become apparent that he has no real answers to our economic problems.  Of course, that is because it is not really an economic problem but a spiritual one.

Can anyone doubt God's judgement is upon us? 

wished any poster to die and burn in hell.  I remember someone so frustrated with Bush that she once said that Bush will burn in hell.  She was frustrated, just like Pat Robertson, who your gang chalks up to freedom of speech.

The comment wasn't aimed at one of you, but yet you have to twist it and turn it into a total LIE before it's fit for you to write. 

I, for one, wish you WOULD go back to your board where hatefulness and lies are a way of life.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I've caught you in enough lies that i will NEVER believe anything you say.

P.S.  I thought you said you were going to Iraq.  YEAH... RIGHT... Add THAT to your never-ending list of lies, as well.  You don't have the guts to do it any more than you have the guts to tell the truth about anything.

You're putrid.  Just go away.