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We are about to be on the hook for billions...

Posted By: sam on 2008-09-28
In Reply to: Tina Fey spot on again. sm - Anon

orchestrated by the Democrats in Congress and ignored by both Biden and Obama...both supposedly savvy politicians who care about the middle class...well guess what...the middle class gets royally screwed over in this just like everyone else...and you want to make fun of Palin. I guess that shows priorities are.


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The liar ticker is off the hook on that one. sm

They weren't 'LET OFF THE HOOK"
For starters, Obama did not dismiss these charges, Susan Crawford, described as a TOP LEGAL AUTHORITY for military trials did. Obama orders were to simply FREEZE the court proceedings (hello) PENDING the results of ongoing reviews of Gitmo operations.

Crawford's dedcision seems perfectly appropriate to me since dismissing the charges (ahem) WITHOUT PREJUDICE means he can be charged again once the results of the reviews are in, ESPECIALLY in light of the fact that Abd Al-Rahim will remain in custody.

Good dodge, but it doesn't let you off the hook with regards to the point
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I say they'll be in the White House by hook or crook

same as W.  Gore wimped out.


And you've swallowed it all, hook, line and sinker.
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I don;'t think McCain/Palin are the ones winning by hook or CROOK,
That would be Obama/Biden
They have bought into Bush's propaganda hook-line-and sinker.
"If you are not with us, then you are with the terrorist." - pres Bush

That's why anytime they hear an adverse opinion to Bush's war in Iraq, they start their spill about liberals being with the terrorists.
I just get very angry when I see BILLIONS of...

dollars being given away to Wall Street crooks with absolutely NO accounting as to who is getting how much, yet the MOST important Americans (again, IMHO) are the troops who are sacrificing their lives for us, and they receive the least in return.


I'm copying and pasting the text of the article below.  The interview, I believe, is very powerful, but at least if I can copy the text, you'll have some notion of what this is about.


(May I just say God bless you and your husband and your entire family.  I hope he returns to you soon.)


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CBS: KBR knowingly exposed troops to toxic dust







David Edwards and Muriel Kane
Published: Tuesday December 23, 2008



A CBS News investigation has obtained evidence that a subsidiary of Halliburton, the giant energy company formerly headed by Vice President (bad word - can't post) Cheney, knowingly exposed United States soldiers to toxic materials in Iraq.

CBS interviewed Commander James Gentry of the Indiana National Guard, who is dying of a rare form of lung cancer that he believes is the result of "months of inhaling hexavalent chromium" after his battalion was assigned in April 2003 to protect contractors from Kellogg Brown & Root (KBR) working in Iraq at a local water plant. Other members of his unit are also suffering from cancers or rashes associated with the toxic chemical, which was all over the plant.

"We didn't question what we were doing," a grief-stricken Gentry told CBS. "We just knew we had to provide a security service for the KBR. ... We would never have been there if we would have known."

CBS has obtained documents which indicate that KBR knew about the danger months before the soldiers were informed. KBR employee depositions show there were "concerns about the toxins in one part of the plant as early as May of 2003," while later minutes detail symptoms of exposure, including bloody noses and rashes.

It wasn't until the end of August that the Indiana National Guardsmen were informed that the plant was contaminated, and some say they have only just learned about it this year.

Indiana Senator Evan Bayh told CBS, "I think the burden of proof at this point is on the company to come forward and very forthrightly explain what happened, why we should trust them, and why the health and well-being of our soldiers should continue to be in their hands."

KBR has issued a statement saying, "We deny the assertion that KBR harmed troops and was responsible for an unsafe condition."

KBR, which was spun off by Halliburton in 2007 as a separate corporation, has previously been accused of providing contaminated water to troops in Iraq, taking kickbacks, and sending workers to Iraq against their will.

The full CBS story can be read here.


This video is from CBS's Evening News, broadcast Dec. 22, 2008.


billions for killing Iraqis okay
not one red cent for the poor! 
Hopefully we will no longer be spending billions on the
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Billions More Needed for Rescue?

 This is over and above the new so-called stimulus package.


In my local newspaper, it states "More proposals waiting in wings" then it goes on to state "The obama adminstration is developing proposals to help rescue the banking system that could cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars beyond the $700 bililion bailout Congress already has approved.


Details are still being worked out but the administration is looking to spend hundreds of billions more to address the foreclosure crisis, help banks get out from under weighty bad assets and expand liquidity programs."


I'm really starting to get sick literally over this. We can't spend billions of dollars when the money isn't coming into the treasury.  We can't printing money without anything to back it up.


If any of you think these packages will not help the economy, please, I'm almost begging you, email or call your reps and get it stopped.


 


What about the Billions Bush spent
Giving millions to companies without overseeing how the money was spent. You think that is responsible? You should at least give Obama a chance. We had to suffer through 8 long years of Republican ridiculousness... Can you not be gracious enough to allow this man some time? At least he has a plan to help American PEOPLE - Not INSTITUTIONS...AKA Bush Cronies.
Wow, spot on . . .10 billions dollars a month . . .
for that war.  For what?   OIL.  That money could go a long way to making sure EVERYBODY had healthcare and dramatically speed up the process of developing alternative energy sources!  Why can no one see how much sense this makes?
I just heard billions of dollars in bigger government...
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Yeah, lets spend billions, go into more debt while
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So a FREE society cuts billions from the army corp of engineers....
so, literally, whole cities drown but we can spend trillions on a war based on lies and support corporations like Halliburton. Sure, why not. It has worked very, very well.
Kind of like the mega-rich CEOs that see nothing wrong in billions in bonuses...sm
while the company disintegrates, faithful workers pensions and futures are taken away, and they basically rape the company for all it is worth, to he!! with the workers who made the company prosperous! In my mind, it is the same mindset---ENTITLEMENT. Get as much as you can as fast as you can and screw everyone else! FDR DID devise welfare as a safety net so families would not starve to death in desperate economic times, it was never meant to be a career or a way of life, we as a country have looked the other way, as with the illegal alien problem, far too long and must make sure our legislators DO something about it OR GET OUT!
Yes, SO easy. Which is why the diet industry in this country rakes in billions each year. nm
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