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Well apparently he has some on this board fooled. nm

Posted By: huh? on 2008-09-24
In Reply to: McCain is afraid to debate Obama. - I smell a chicken!

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Guess you fooled us. All dems sound alike these days on this board.
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Apparently other posters on this board do not share your view...
of free speech. Thank you for your permission, even though it had to be in the form of a potshot. That being said...I would equate fanaticism more with being on board for killing 1.2 million babies a year rather than being against it...but that is just me. I would think that liberals so concerned about war and the innocent killed during one...might show as much concern for innocent babies being killed like shooting fish in a barrel. But alas...not so.
You were really fooled then.......
This happened at a local college but when I went away to another college, I saw much of the same attitude with the exception of partying. The guys partied a lot but one thing never changed. They believed that all western women were whores and sluts and even relayed this information to the other male students, who certainly let us know about it. They even tried to tell the guys that women in this country do not like to be treated like that, they expect equal treatment and all they got in respones was a laugh. Now, keep in mind, these Iranian/Iraqi students certainly had no problem partying and "sleeping around" with these girls they do despised, but don't be fooled; their true feelings were right there in front of you!
You sure had me fooled then!
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Anyone fooled by Palin and McBush
deserves them and the chaos they will create if 'hired'...
And Dems are FOOLED by Obama -
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You could've fooled me. Must have been thrown
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Bush turned out to be a socialist and you were fooled by him
Our banks are under socialism now.
Obama followers are so easily fooled....nm

Yep, and now other countries can see how most Americans can be fooled by their media, etc - nm

So you and your buds bash us on *your* board and suddenly, once you reach this board,

some respect?


You publicly post on the other board that you *try not to visit the bog of eternal stench.*


Well, doesn't look like you are trying all that hard. Or is that another example of Conservative honesty, like your buddy on the other board lies 3 times before suddenly deciding to be *up front* (in her own words) about the whole bogus line of crap she was spouting.


You and your 2 friends don't respect anyone unless they're a member of your little club, think exactly as you think, belong to the same political party as you belong, and believe in the very same little narrow SUBsection of one particular religion.


That's what I interpret from YOUR WRITTEN WORDS.  Your posts don't show respect.  They only show twisted *facts*, ignorance, anger and hatred.


You can't be *respectful* on your own board but suddenly, when you come here - HERE - the place YOU call *the bog of eternal stench* you suddenly discover some respectability during your mouse click from there to here?


Please.  Some of us aren't as stupid as you think we are.


You're becoming quite a bore.  You and your friends stated you don't want us on your board, but you're not happy unless you're picking a fight.  You and your *gang* told us to leave and not to post on *your* board.  Maybe that should work both ways.


Out of ALL the problems with radical Conservatives, maybe the most annoying thing is that you don't believe in equality at all.  You believe in SUPERIORITY.  Somewhere along the line, someone made you think you were special and above everyone else.  Sheesh!  You're not happy unless you're dictating to everyone else in the country what they're allowed to do in their own personal lives regarding life, death, science, etc. You even think YOUR GOD IS BETTER than everyone else's.


You want to make the rules, censor people and tell them which boards they can and cannot post on, but YOU want to invade them all and spew your ignorance and hatred. 


In my heart, I believe there are sincere, honest, intelligent Conservatives out there who are capable of a sensible debate.  I've seen them.  (I hope you don't chase them away, too.)  But and your crew don't fall in that category, and this will be the last of your inane posts I will subject myself to.


Talk about stench. Just read your very own posts.


Can we bring the board back to the true reason for the board

Can we get the political board back to the true purpose of this board – to share opinions of why we like our candidate.  Not bash and cut down others because they don’t agree with you.


I stayed away from this board for the past couple days because anyone who had anything positive to say about Sarah Palin got slammed, bashed, kicked down, etc.  After awhile I found it all too draining, and was not seeing any reason to come.  Yes, I did see some of it towards people who favored Barack Obama, but if you read the posts again it is mostly towards anyone who favored Sarah Palin/John McCain.


I thought the political board was for posting information regarding politics and candidates.  What I have seen for the past few days is that it has been an attack board.  Especially if you have anything positive you want to share about Sarah Palin.  You say something good about her and you get attacked, you answer back, and you get attacked more, and then when you get mad and pretty much say stop attacking me, they come back with this “Geez, I’m allowed to have an opinion”.


Another thing I am tired of seeing is the slanderous, hate filled, really off the wall comments about Sarah Palin.  The latest was something about her daughter actually had her baby.  Talk about just bizarre comments.  I thought what’s next, she’s an alien from another planet?  The more I kept reading the more the comments were getting just really weird and bizarre.  Of course nobody ever having any proof of any of these allegations.  I then came to realize that the posters were just trying to get a fight going.


I also saw posts that had nothing to do with politics but attacking a poster named Sam.  Again, probably trying to get another fight going for no good reason and on things that have nothing to do whatsoever with politics.  I’ve read “Sam is like an annoying nat that you sway away”, “Sam, please let me know where you work” or “she must have her quota” or “sam is to the politics board as oracle is to the”  This childish rhetoric is getting old.  I’m not defending sam she is a big girl and I can see by her posts she can take care of herself, but my point is that this has nothing to do with politics.  If you want a fight maybe you could request that the administrator create a separate “fight and degrade” section.


I’ve read the administrators post a couple different times called Beware of Flaming.  She/he said as long as we realize that not everyone is going to agree we shouldn’t wear our feelings on our sleeves and a little more oversight on here would be good.  Let people express his or her opinion and move on.  If you don’t like someone just ignore that person. “It’s not rocket science, you know” (I liked that statement)


I consider posting on this board a privilege and not a right.  If you don’t agree with something and you post that you don’t agree and state the facts why (and are civilized about it) that’s one thing, but when you bash and degrade others without showing proof and just want to start fights and belittle others it just seems a bit juvenile to me.


I come to the politics board to hear ideas and stuff (facts) about the candidates.  That is how I’m learning about each one, but I don’t want to read people attack other posters for no good reason.  I'd like to hear about Obama/Biden & McCain/Palin, but I want to hear facts.


If you like to fight so much why don’t you pick on people that you can fight to face to face. 


apparently

he wanted Lieberman or Tom Ridge.  he was informed that if he picked Lieberman, there would be a floor fight on the convention floor to prevent that selection.  His campaign is stagnant, so he decided to appeal to the extreme conservative base. It has backfired on him because, in going for those voters, he chose a partner whose lifestyle shows the limitations and consequences of extreme right views such as abstinence only programs and not providing birth control info to teenagers.


 


apparently

that view is that the left is one big monolithic mind that works as one  Kinda like bees.


 


And apparently they are not the only ones. nm
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apparently

one who posts an opinion that differs from the majority here is labeled a "troll."  Labels do not deter me from expressing my viewpoint.  I am certain that others will agree with my assessment before the day is over.          


As far as giving liberals a bad name, pack-think is rather primitive.


Apparently more than you!
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Apparently...
Your reality is based on your brother and his friends and their friends and your friends at church. I have a news flash for you. There is a whole country outside of your little town with a much different reality that you know nothing about. So please keep your small-town reality to yourself and stop trying to tell us that we should all join you.
Apparently not who you think I am........ sm
since you seem to think I said you were no better than the rapist. I don't know where the heck you got that, lady, but I never said anything even CLOSE to that.

I did say "a rapist can only have as much control on the victim AFTER THE FACT as she allows." After the fact means after the rape. It does not mean that any woman asks to be raped or that she is on the same level as her rapist. It means that, if a woman allows herself to ruminate on the act for months or years afterward, the rapist still has control over her.

You asked if I feel you should have given birth, too, and my answer to that would have to be yes. I feel that you should have allowed your child to have life, and then if you decided you couldn't raise it (and I would totally agree with that since you were just a child yourself) I believe you should have allowed it to be adopted.

I'm really sorry for your pain as I would not wish that on anyone, and yes, I would go hunting if I had a daughter who was raped. I obviously struck a deep, long buried nerve with you, and I'm sorry for that.
Apparently they don't
However, I think they're dead wrong. There are a lot of voters on both sides (Dem and Repub) who see a major problem with one party having too much power and will vote accordingly to even things up.

You are an ignoramus...apparently you don't know of
anyone who was Viet Nam.  There were plenty of problems caused by the war itself....not just what you "read," but then again, I doubt you understand the written word!
Apparently she was covert tho
or none of this would be happening AND the only reason everybody and their 3rd cousin knew where she worked is because someone leaked it. It may be much ado about nothing, but if thats true why take two years to investigate it? From everything I read, Fitzgerald is not a partisian hack for either side, but a real honest to goodness good guy who loves to take down bad guys, politicians or mafia or whoever he is after. I realize that last sentence was a bit simplistic, but you get the general idea. And if indictments do come out of this and they are of anyone in the White House, it is going to be a very very big deal. And in the periphery of all of this, is the lead in to possible mismangement of intelligence in order to lead us into war. THAT is why all the pundits are salivating and why Fox News and Rush L are gettin so upset. It may end up to be a tempest in a teapot or it may bring down the Bush Administration. Only time will tell. Either way there will be a lot of upset people out there, whichever way it turns out.
Apparently you did not look far enough for the quote...
This is from the Washington Post, transcript of the conversation:

Vice President Cheney: Dec. 9, 2001 -- Meet the Press

RUSSERT: Let me turn to Iraq. When you were last on this program, September 16, five days after the attack on our country, I asked you whether there was any evidence that Iraq was involved in the attack and you said no. Since that time, a couple articles have appeared which I want to get you to react to. The first: "The Czech interior minister said today that an Iraqi intelligence officer met with Mohammed Atta, one of the ringleaders of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the United States, just five months before the synchronized hijackings and mass killings were carried out."

And this from James Woolsey, former CIA director: "We know that at Salman Pak, on the southern edge of Baghdad, five different eyewitnesses--three Iraqi defectors and two American U.N. Inspectors--have said--and now there are aerial photographs to show it--a Boeing 707 that was used for training of hijackers, including non-Iraqi hijackers trained very secretly to take over airplanes with knives." And we have photographs. As you can see that little white speck--and there it is, the plane on the ground in Iraq used to train non-Iraqi hijackers. Do you still believe there's no evidence that Iraq was involved in September 11?

There ya go. Meet the Press only has transcripts on line back to 2003. I checked. If you look hard enough, there are other publications who published the actual transcript. Russert said it.

As to the fuselage in the desert: Charles Deulfer, former Deputy Head, U.N. Special Commission for Iraq, told NPR, "There were lots of places in Iraq where training of non-Iraqis, or things, which by our lexicon would be considered terrorism, was taking place. That's why Iraq is on the terrorist list. Having a large aircraft, a 707, in a peninsula, completely visible from the air or from satellite, with no airline runways nearby, that's not there by accident."

As to the smartalecky crack who was in the "meeting"...I posted that I heard him say it during the 9-11 commission meeting hearings and I DID. They were televised and there were certainly more than 3 people present. They asked him about the "slam dunk" comment regarding the intelligence and WMD, and he replied: "I thought it WAS a slam dunk. We ALL did." I don't know what meeting you are talking about with only three present. I am talking about what he testified to before the 9-11 commission in their hearings, which I did hear. And, frankly, I think out of the man's own mouth is a pretty reliable source.

Yes, I agree it is hard to get the real story, especially since the story tellers change their stories like other people change their underwear. Tim Russert is just one of them. Richard Armitage is another. So which time do we believe them? Which time is really the truth? No way to know.

I said the source of the reporting does not matter if the information can be substantiated. I don't discount everything I hear on a liberal station if I can substantiate it. A very simple example: If Fox News printed the sun was shining, and you looked out and the sun was shining...you could pretty well believe it, even if Fox is the one who printed it. That was my point...if it is a fact, who prints it does not matter. Who declines to print or report it though...that also indicates something.

Have a good evening, Taiga!
Apparently the truth over yours as well...
but with your head buried in the sand, no wonder.
Apparently, so does more than 1/2 the country.
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Some people are against it, apparently....
there are those on this board who are against it.

And, respectfully, I beg to differ. The "guilty" will never be held accountable. Pelosi has already said the democrats accept no responsibility for this situation. I rest my case. She knows better, Frank knows better, and they get right up there on TV and lie through their teeth. Both of them morally bankrupt if you ask me. And I would be saying the same thing if they were Republicans and the same evidence existed pointing to them. This is not partisan. This is about integrity, about serving the people who elected you. In my opinion, she and Barney Frank, Chris Dodd...have absolutely none. Zip, zero, nada.
Apparently your friends must be among the better off...
Q: What are the current concerns among healthcare workers in the country?

A: The Canadian Healthcare Association, and other concerned bodies, such as the Canadian Nurses Association, have put forward a Common Vision for the Canadian Health System document. It argues that four key areas need improvement in the country's healthcare system: patient waiting times; overall healthcare funding; shortages in personnel and improvement of medical technology; and the expansion of the healthcare system to include home, pharmaceutical, and long-term care.

Moreover, Canadian nurses have expressed particular dissatisfactions with the healthcare system in recent years. In 2002, the Canadian Nursing Advisory Committee delivered a report which recommended increasing the number of nurses, improvements in education, and maximizing the scope of practice of nurses.

The lure of more lucrative salaries has also led to a "brain drain" of professionals to the United States in recent years. Although overall emigration has been relatively small, healthcare professionals constitute a significant proportion of the public sector workers who have chosen to leave Canada for employment in the United States.

Q: What are the current concerns among patients?

A: Waiting times to see specialists and for diagnostic tests have become a point of issue for Canadians. According to a study by the Fraser Institute, a conservative think tank, such waiting times have increased from 13.1 weeks in 1999, to 17.7 weeks in 2003, to 17.9 in 2004. Long waits to undergo elective surgery have also become an issue in recent years, as have crowded emergency rooms in the country's largest cities.

One response to these concerns on the part of patients has been to seek treatment in the United States or overseas. While "medical tourism" is derided by some in Canada as queue-jumping, others see it as a legitimate means of dealing with the healthcare system's shortcomings. The province of Alberta currently reimburses patients who have sought medically necessary physician, oral surgery, and hospital services not immediately available in Canada.

The frequency of adverse events, or errors in treatment that might harm the patient or the outcome of their treatment while hospitalized, has also raised concerns in regards to the country's healthcare system, both among healthcare workers and patients.

Q: What are the current challenges in providing healthcare?

A: In 2004, the federal government and the provinces struck a C$41-billion (US$34.2-billion), 10-year agreement to improve Canada's healthcare system.

At the center of this agreement is an attempt to reduce waiting times. A Wait Times Reduction Fund has been instituted to help the provinces accomplish this. The fund allows the provinces to increase the hiring of healthcare professionals, clear backlogs, increase capacity, and expand ambulatory and community care programs. The provinces have themselves agreed to set targets for acceptable wait times, and have also agreed to cooperate in establishing a common set of criteria to measure wait times across the country.

Tell me, when the long waits to see a specialist, elective surgeries, etc., happen here...where will the canadians go? Where will WE go?

Just asking.

Yes! Of course they should have done that all along - apparently now they can't afford it ...lol
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Apparently yet another rumor

First clue should have been that it was filed by someone with a "Stop Obama" relationship.  Second would be that it wasn't covered by every television news outlet with breaking news interruptions into regularly scheduled programming.


Shots Fired at McCain-Palin Bus? (UPDATED: No Reports to Police or Campaign)




Update: The McCain campaign hasn't heard anything about the report of a bus being attacked. This makes the following report seem highly unlikely. Neither Raton police nor state police have received reports about such an incident.


The blog item below was posted by Mark Williams, former talk-radio host turned spokesman for Our Country Deserves Better PAC, a group committed to working against an Obama quest for the presidency. He has been on the group's Stop Obama tour, which arrived in Raton about a day after a McCain/Palin bus came through, he said. Williams said he heard the story from several residents of Raton, who said the bus had a shattered window when it arrived in town, and that it had been shattered by some kind of shot during its trip up from southern New Mexico, but he never saw the bus.


A Raton Police spokesperson, who said he's been on his phone all day long with reporters, said if the incident happened, it happened far south of Raton. Several calls to offices south, such as Chavez County Sheriff's Department and the Roswell Police, however, turned up nothing. Looks like this one is firmly in the debunked rumor pile for now, and not likely to move anytime soon.


A report from New Mexico:

We learned at this morning’s Stop Obama Rally here that the McCain/Palin Straight Talk Express came through town yesterday. It arrived with a window shattered by a .22 caliber weapon. It had also been hit by an unknown number of paint balls from a paint ball gun or guns. There were reportedly no injuries and neither candidate was on board.


Get ready for the media saturation! The wringing of hands, the concern about "incitement," the indictment of Obama and Biden for daring to criticize McCain and Palin in such a way that would drive their supporters to this.


Apparently, you are not as clever as you think you are! (nm)
:p
apparently I can't use the little icons so......
;o)
"gay" as such apparently has been around
since bibilical days, since the Bible mentions in layman's terms that men should not sleep with men, also remember Sodom and Gomorrah???
Well, since you are apparently my poodle.. sm
Do you want pink bows or red ones? HAHAHAHA
And apparently humorless ones
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But apparently, we care very much

about every aspect of their lives.  Go through the grocery line and scan the magazines and tabloids.  We apparently MUST know the latest about Brad and Angie, if they are going to purchase their next child or breed another one.  And since Madonna's latest bid for a kid was rejected, what will she do?  I mean, I think she was looking to complete the set and now she's been thwarted.  And is Brad calling Jen late at night to cry on her shoulder, and will they maybe get back together if Jen breaks up with what's-his-name?  This stuff is on the covers.  Lord knows what's in the story!   Don't get me started on Jess or Brit.   Brad, Jen, Angie, Jess, Brit, Sean.   I love that first names only are used, often shortened names, to make these folks seem like your best buds.


So it follows that a certain sort of person will lap up the celebs' opinions on political issues.  Actors talk real good (it's, like, their JOB)  and obviously these actors are rich and successful and so must know lots of stuff the masses don't.  The actors start believing their own press, and so think that their opinions actually have value. 


Reminds me of the parental warning about show-offs:  Don't look.  It'll only encourage him.


Apparently you do define yourself that way.
By your own description, sex is determined by gender. Therefore, by your definition, describing yourself as female describes your sex life. So quit talking about your sex life with us. We don't want to hear it, and, if your postings are any indication, it's either really really boring or, more likely, probably kinkier than I could stomach.
Your on the wrong board - you need to preach on the faith board
You just delivered a sermon (or quote). Either way it doesn't belong here. What does this have to do with politics. The democrat and republican party did not start up until after the 1800s. Socialism also wasn't created until the 1800s.

To me your post describes the way humans should treat other humans. This has nothing to do with politics - imho.

Because you posted on the Main board not Politics board.
It was removed, as we do not have an option of moving from Main to Politics.

This could have easily been avoided had you posted on the correct board.

The response from another poster to not post political viewpoints on this board was becuase you posted it on the Main board.
I was referring to the fact that you apparently
think your opinion is the only one and you know all.

I'm on the board I belong to and I rarely post but you just seem like a board bully.

Apparently, from the posts above, I'm not the only one feeling that way.


Apparently food is not the only thing she
She has no class whatsoever...maybe she is the love child of Pat Robertson and some cheap hooker?

Check this out: http://www.bettybowers.com/coulter.html#Anchor-Thi-12323

A little over the top but funny.
Apparently you have not been wartching the dates...
or the snippets of the Democratic candidates...lol. They curl up their lips like Elvis when they have to say the word "Republican." It's all politics. It is a political season. They say "The Republicans" the same way you would say "the pillaging raping dregs of society." LOL. Funny how you don't see that or hear that from them? Some of the Republicans do it too, of course they do. It is politics. They will say that on camera and then hug each other and laugh off camera. All politics. I don't believe a word ANY Of them say, and laugh at the jokes on both sides. It is so juvenile and ridiculous, and we all just yuck it up like the future of the country was not at stake..and it is. I would like ONE reasoning adult in the race. On either side. Just one. Tell me what is good about YOU. Not what is BAD about the other guy. Don't keep saying "hope" and "change." Tell me what you are going to do, and how you are going to pay for it without hitting my paycheck harder than you alreaedy are. Don't dangle issues in front of people with promises of the "big fix" like universal health care. Tell me how it is going to work...tell me how we are NOT going to be like Canada or France or England...and tell me how you are going to do it without taxing me into poverty (that is how the middle class is disappearing!!). Tell me THAT without lying through your teeth.

Tell me what your agenda REALLY is.

THAT is what I would like. From EITHER side.
apparently i totally agree
but it threw me off cause the first sentence in the reply to me said "so it is your business right"? SO yea i was a bit confused :)
Apparently you turn a blind eye
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Apparently abstinence and no sex-ed are not working.
More failed policies?
Apparently this post went right above your head!
Either you are just plain ignorant or you have been drinking a little too much Sam Kool-Aid these days if you interpret the above post as proving Sam's point.
Get on the net and search. Apparently there are a lot of schools...
who ban such things.
Apparently NOT. Your claim. Your citation.
no credibility. Got it? Just wondering what other verifiable examples you can come up with to support you claim of "Christian discrimination."
Apparently that is happening in a lot of places...sm
I posted below about a change in polling places in a city here in Texas.

There was a person at the polls today that was not on the list as a registered voter. I happened to overhear part of the conversation from where I stood but did not hear the solution to the voter's problem.
Well, apparently Fox broke the story.

Whether it's a lie or not, who knows?  Frankly, I don't care.  She lost.  Period.  It's over.


However, regarding Chris Matthews, and in the spirit of trying to be objective here, I watched his show tonight.  He interviewed Governor Pawlenty, asked him a number of rather leading questions to which my understanding of the Governor's answers were rather noncommittal, and at the end, Matthews said, "Well, okay..." you said this, and this and this... (can't remember the exact words), and Pawlenty made a comment about Matthews' poor editing skills if that was what Matthews got from Pawlenty's statements.


I was sitting here, kind of shaking my head and wondering what's happening to Chris Matthews, because his assessment of Pawlenty's words sure didn't match what I heard the Governor say.


I don't believe I've seen Chris this "frazzled" for a long time.  Maybe he needs a vacation or something, but I didn't care for what I saw tonight. 


Apparently you have paid NO attention.
This talk about NWO has been out there since Bush 41, almost two decades.  Where have you been?  But if it makes you feel better to blame Obama, have at it.
Which apparently proves you can be wrong.

Maybe you're just as wrong about Obama, as well.


Either way, the article below shows that this is really a non-story.  Nobody seems to be listening to Bush any more.  He couldn't even get enough reporters to fill the seats for his final press conference, so he had to fill the empty seats with people who weren't even reporters, just to make it look like he had a full room (perhaps his final attempt to deceive Americans).


http://rawstory.com/news/2008/CBS_Obama_appears_to_have_skipped_0116.html