Well, as far as lobbyists....
Posted By: sam on 2008-09-02
In Reply to: Nope, no Marxist, communists have ... - TJ
Joe Biden's son is one.
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when you hire lobbyists
to go to Washington to get FEDERAL (i.e. yours and mine) pork barrel money for a state and then give the residents a "rebate" you tend to be liked by voters. Many interviewed were unaware of the trooper scandal, the per diem charges for staying in her own home, etc. Majority of people do not pay attention to governmental affairs -- too busy chasing wolves and chopping their forefeet off.
Yea, he wants to stop lobbyists
He received $708,000 from medical and insurance interests between 2001 and 2006, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. And Michelle Obama is a vice president for community and external affairs at the University of Chicago Hospitals, a position that paid her $316,962 annually.
You see all you O lovers, they're dirt poor just like you and they don't take money from outside interest as he said he didn't. And they know your plight so well, since they live within your means.
OK. Let's go there. How PAC and lobbyists bankroll
http://www.campaignmoney.org/pressroom/2008/08/13/the-nearly-1-billion-connection-mccain-and-his-lobbyists-clients
Political action committees (PACs) have donated $11,750,051 to McCain campaigns.
http://www.mccainslobbyists.com/
For a fascinating read on the 40 top lobbyists. It has a photo gallery game board set up. Mouse over a photo, click and voila...campaign contribution amounts pop up. Scroll down just a tad after that for insightful biographies on these cronies (all colluded with the Bush administration), their ties to one another, the conflict of interests and how they ride around in McCain's pockets. It's great fun.
Lobbyists in Washington
If you mean the Wall Street crash, causing by mtg backed securities wrapped up into investments and then sold with the thought "housing will continue to gain in value or at least, hold their value in the investment vehicle," that has nothing to do with politics. Bush made a speech "more Americans own homes today than at any other time in the history of the country." And it was true, even if the home owners weren't credit worthy or the mtg were ARMs or floating (interest upfront) and needed to be refi'ed at some point in the future for the mtg holder to afford them. Following home values make it hard to refi a house, as everyone knew.
These men who sunk the world economy knew exactly what they were doing. Many became quite wealthy due to it.
The loss of the stock values that ensued, as I have followed it closely, made no real sense. the Paulson Bailout was a guise to give banks money to purchase other banks, not save Main Street. A few very wealthy people call the shots. And, it appears, even they are being swindled by their business partners.
Greed is the root of all evil and evil thrives when good men do nothing - or choose to do nothing for a number of reasons.
Bush looks happy as a lark even as his countrymen are facing the brink of of a recession not seen since the Great Depression.
The people of this country are to blame in the end for allowing it to continue. The U.S. is For the People, By the People and Of the People. Buck stops with the people.
Obama has lobbyists on his campaign as well...
and until recently, Joe Biden's son was a paid lobbyist for several years in Washington and did several deals with dad.
Lobbyists on both sides. Obama worked with lobbyists in Chicago.
As long as there are lobbyists there will be loopholes
Every elected official is getting money from insurance and pharmaceutical companies to legislate loopholes for them. You actually think telling these officials to jump off their gravy train and bite the hands that feed them is really going to work? And, why, exactly would they do that - because they care about the little people that elected them more than their own bank accounts? Even if they only stay elected for one term, they can rake in enough dough in bribes for votes to retire like kings. They like that, and they're not about to change it.
Oh, and after I take your suggestion and put myself into debt and sell everything I own to pay for one person's medical bills, what if another family member, such as myself, gets sick? The money is going to run out sooner rather than later, considering any one denied surgical procedure costs more than my 50k house. When a person is ill, I don't think they have the energy to liquidate their lives, even if they have something to liquidate. And what do they have to look forward to, if and when they recover - poverty and homelessness and more debt than they can ever recover from?
You haven't convinced me. I still would rather pay taxes for guaranteed health care than pay high premiums for diddly squat. And I've yet to find an employer who offers better healthcare - every place I've worked, they end up downgrading it due to costs until its outrageously expensive and covers nearly nothing.
Obama-Biden Lobbyists - change??
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/27/politics/washingtonpost/main4388540.shtml
http://blog1.thejtandbearshow.com/2008/08/27/obama-rewarded-bidens-lobbyist-son-with-34-million-in-earmarks.aspx
Didn't Obama say "NO LOBBYISTS"?
There are 12 lobbylists in his administration............but, of course, all Obama lovers will certainly defend them somehow! They always do.
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