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What the heck? U.S. releases secret list

Posted By: of nuclear sites on website? No accident. on 2009-06-03
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GOD!! LET'S JUST HAND OVER OUR COUNTRY NOW AND GET IT OVER WITH.

U.S. Releases Secret List of Nuclear Sites by Accident
Document that gives detailed information about civilian nuclear sites and programs, marked "highly confidential," was accidentally made public by the federal government.

Wednesday, June 03, 2009


WASHINGTON -- The government accidentally posted on the Internet a list of government and civilian nuclear facilities and their activities in the United States, but a U.S. official said Wednesday the posting included no information that compromised national security.

The 266-page document was published on May 6 as a transmission from President Barack Obama to Congress. According to the document, the list was required by law and will be provided to the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Some of the pages are marked "highly confidential safeguards sensitive."

Damien LaVera, a spokesman for the National Nuclear Security Administration, said the document had been reviewed by a number of U.S. agencies and that disclosure of the information did not jeopardize national security. He said the document is part of an agreement on nuclear material inspection under the IAEA's nuclear nonproliferation effort.

"While we would have preferred it not be released, the Departments of Energy, Defense, and Commerce and the NRC all thoroughly reviewed it to ensure that no information of direct national security significance would be compromised," LaVera said in a statement.

An Energy Department official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to discuss the situation publicly, said none of the sites on the list are directly part of the government's nuclear weapons infrastructure.

Included in the report, however, are details on a storage facility for highly enriched uranium at the Y-12 complex at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee and some sites at the Energy Department's Hanford nuclear site in Washington state, this official acknowledged.

The publication of the list was first reported in an online secrecy newsletter Monday. The document had been posted on the Government Printing Office Web site, but has since been removed from that site.

The document includes both government and civilian nuclear facilities, all of which have various levels of security, including details and location of nation's 103 commercial nuclear power reactors, information readily available from various sources.

The document details the location of the nuclear sites and what is being done there.

For instance, there are nuclear reactors at the Westinghouse Electric Company in Pittsburgh, Pa. This facility is currently working on research into what happens when there are accidents with the nuclear reactors. The project started in 2006 and is expected to end in 2012, according to the document.

There are "zero" national security implications to the publication of this document, said Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Government's Project on Government Secrecy. Aftergood found the document on the GPO Web site and highlighted it in his online bulletin.

"I regret that some people are painting it as a roadmap for terrorists because that's not what it is," Aftergood said.

"This is not a disclosure of sensitive nuclear technologies or of facility security procedures. It is simply a listing of the numerous nuclear research sites and the programs that are under way," Aftergood said. "And so it poses no security threat whatsoever."



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Bush releases Hijacker Sought by U.S.

Hijacker Sought By U.S. Released
Germany Frees Hezbollah Member Who Killed Md. Sailor in '85 Plot


By Craig Whitlock
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, December 21, 2005; A23



BERLIN, Dec. 20 -- The German government disclosed Tuesday that it had freed a Hezbollah member who had been convicted of hijacking a TWA airliner in 1985, allowing him to return to his native Lebanon despite long-standing requests from the United States to hand him over for trial.


Mohammed Ali Hammadi, 41, walked out of a German prison on Thursday after a parole board concluded that he was eligible for early release, German officials said. His parole prompted a protest from the State Department.


Hammadi served nearly 19 years of a life sentence for air piracy, possession of explosives and the murder of Robert Dean Stethem, a U.S. sailor from Waldorf, Md. Stethem, a passenger on board TWA Flight 847 from Athens to Rome, was singled out for brutal treatment by the hijackers because of his military service.


Organized by the radical Shiite Muslim group Hezbollah, the hijacking was one of the most publicized terrorist attacks on a U.S. target in the 1980s. It lasted for 17 days as the plane, with dozens of hostages aboard, shuttled between airports in the Mediterranean.


The German government said Hammadi's parole had nothing to do with the case of a German hostage in Iraq who was let go by her captors on Sunday. A brother of Hammadi was convicted in the 1980s of kidnapping Westerners in the Middle East in an attempt to pressure German authorities to release him.


The family of the American petty officer, who was beaten and fatally shot by the hijackers, expressed disappointment Tuesday that one of his killers was free. To have commuted his sentence -- it just doesn't make sense, his mother, Patricia Stethem, said in a telephone interview. They're dealing with terrorists. They've released him back to Lebanon. . . . He's back where he can join up with the Hezbollah organization again.


The State Department said Tuesday that the U.S government still wanted to put Hammadi on trial, based on a 1985 indictment. Three other Lebanese men named in the indictment remain at large and are on the FBI's most wanted list of terrorist suspects, with $5 million rewards for their capture.


Current and former American officials said they had pushed for two decades to gain custody of Hammadi and try him in a U.S. courtroom, but they ran into political and legal resistance from Germany. U.S. prosecutors originally sought Hammadi's extradition after he was arrested at the Frankfurt airport in 1987, but Germany denied the request and put him on trial locally instead.


We were certainly disappointed at the time that we didn't get our hands on him then, and we are disappointed now that he has been released before the end of his full sentence, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said in Washington. We have demonstrated over the years that when we believe an individual is responsible for the murder of innocent American civilians, that we will track them down and that we will bring them to justice in the United States.


A spokeswoman for the German Justice Ministry said there were no pending requests for Hammadi's extradition at the time of his release. McCormack turned aside questions about that, saying he was not a lawyer. He said the State Department was notified of Hammadi's release before he reached Lebanon, but the spokesman did not specify when.


Legal experts said it was doubtful that Germany could have transferred him to U.S. custody. Under German law, defendants cannot be retried for crimes for which they have already been convicted, even if they are prosecuted in another country.


Lebanon does not have an extradition treaty with the United States. McCormack was asked if the United States would seek to obtain custody of Hammadi through a process known as rendition, in which the CIA apprehends suspects and flies them out of the country without judicial procedures. He replied that he could not answer the question from this podium.


Court officials in Frankfurt said Hammadi was freed after a regularly scheduled review of his case by parole officials. They would not say why they waited until after he had returned to Lebanon to make the decision public.


The German hostage freed in Iraq on Sunday was Susanne Osthoff, an Arabic-speaking archaeologist who had lived there for years. There is no connection between these two cases, said Martin Jaeger, a spokesman for the German Foreign Ministry. The identity of Osthoff's kidnappers remains unclear, and German officials have not divulged any details about her time in captivity.


Hammadi is a member of an influential Lebanese family that is active in Hezbollah, which was blamed for a wave of kidnappings in the 1980s, including those of several Germans.


Hammadi's brother, Abbas, was arrested in Germany in 1987 and charged with helping to kidnap two German businessmen in a bid to use them as bargaining chips for Mohammed Hammadi's freedom. Abbas Hammadi was released in 1993 after serving half of his sentence.


At the time, German news media reported that he was let go as part of a deal between the German government and Hezbollah to release two other Germans held hostage in Lebanon. German officials denied that assertion.


Mohammed Hammadi was charged with being one of two hijackers who seized the TWA plane in Athens. He escaped after the hijacking but was arrested at the Frankfurt airport on Jan. 13, 1987, after security agents discovered liquid explosives in his luggage.


In his trial, witnesses testified that after the hijackers discovered that Stethem was a U.S. sailor, Hammadi and an accomplice beat him until he collapsed. Hammadi was seen carrying the handgun that was used to fatally shoot the 23-year-old American. Prosecutors said they never established who pulled the trigger.


A panel of German judges sentenced Hammadi to life in prison with no eligibility for parole for 15 years.


Victoria Toensing, a former Justice Department official in the Reagan administration who oversaw efforts to extradite Hammadi in 1987, said German authorities threw obstacles in the way of U.S. prosecutors at that time and only reluctantly cooperated.


They were not open at all, she recalled. We knew he would be released early, way back then.


Staff writers John Burgess and Glenn Kessler in Washington contributed to this report.



© 2005 The Washington Post Company

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/20/AR2005122001615_pf.html

S/l you've been reading BMW press releases....
I was being facetious ...

Sure it would be great for emissions if the world drove hydrogen vehicles - but have you checked the cost of maintaining the hydrogen vehicle? The cost of replacing a fuel cell battery?

Where does hydrogen come from? Water, natural gas, plants, coal, other fossil fuels are big sources - all expensive and coveted, and potentially in short supply. To produce no pollution it must be pure hydrogen - and you must have enough electricity to separate the hydrogen from say water, without using fossil fuels. The electrical generating capacity in the country will have to double in order to take on the demands of transportation, and then it will all have to convert from fossil fuels to renewable sources.

A lot of sacrifice of comfort and convenience will have to take place - I'm willing do it, how about the rest of the world?

The DOE is funding a billion to produce a hydrogen car - but it will be years away and the expense out of reach for most folks. Recently Obama's cut hydrogen fuel cell funding in the 2010 budget. Such vehicles for now anyway will remain the toys of celebrities and folks who can afford one to run around the neighborhood.

Also, factor in the cost of extracting and producing hydrogen, and the fact that the rest of the car from tires to dashboard, and almost everything we touch in the modern world, is produced from oil - a hydrogen car will do little to reduce pollution. The main problem with hydrogen-powered fuel cells involves the storage and distribution of hydrogen - which no one has answered yet, not on the scale of the masses. And who will build the refueling stations if there are no customers? Who will buy the vehicle if there is no where to refuel? Or if you can plug your care in your garage - is that coal firing the electric plant?

Have you seen the Mini Cooper? It is 5-1/2 feet wide and 4-1/2 feet in height. There's a reason it's called mini.

The best way to stop pollution is curb consumption - and that doesn't seem to be on the political agenda in any nation.
The White House releases pieces of the speeches
nm
my dog ate my secret

memo - what is the "IST" word we are throwing at the democrats today? Yesterday was "elitist" --  we need to keep switching them around to keep fresh.  "Socialist" and "communist" were used recently.  How bout "polygamist" - we haven't used that one in a while.


Should be the Secret Service! nm

In Iraq, what you do is best kept secret...sm
This is rather lengthy, but paints a picture of Iraq from an Iraqi point of view. This just goes to show there are two sides to every story. Listening to the government and Fox News reporters you would think the good guy was in control in Iraq. According to this article, it would appear the insurgents hold a greater power over the people :(

World News

In Iraq, what you do is best kept secret
Sunnis pose as Shiites, rich people pose as poor, and no one says where they work. Telling the truth could bring a death sentence.

Sunday, July 02, 2006
By Megan K. Stack, Los Angeles Times

BAGHDAD, Iraq -- You don't want to draw attention, so you keep a battered car even if you can afford a fancier model. You don't wash it; better to let dust smear the windows. Night falls, curfew clamps down, and all those dirty old cars wend their way back to the homes of the capital. The eyes of neighbors slide after them.

Where are the drivers coming from? Some work for the government. Some fight with insurgents or death squads. Some are employed by Americans. No one asks, and no one tells; nobody knows who's who.

Bloodshed has turned Iraq into a country defined by disguise and bluff. Violence in the streets has begun to defy logic, and this is part of the fallout: A lively city where people used to butt gleefully into one another's business has degenerated into a labyrinth of disguises, a place where neighbors brush silently past one another like dancers in a macabre costume ball.

Everything is hidden among Iraqis; people are very suspicious of one another, said 66-year-old Hayawi Mahdi Abaasi, a successful lawyer who says he won't repair his tumble-down house or replace his 1982 Toyota for fear the wrong people would notice.

Why should I call the attention of terrorists to me? I try to be very common like everyone else, he said.

Rich people hide their jewelry and dig frayed clothes from the back of their closets to evade ransom-seeking kidnappers. Muslims claim to be Sunni or Shiite, depending on circumstance. Christians pose as Muslims. Lying about employment is de rigueur. Street police wrap their faces in masks so nobody will recognize them.

Everybody, it seems, is pretending to be somebody else, adopting a fake identity in the terrified hope of staying safe. Baghdad residents reason that no matter who you are, you're probably on somebody's hit list.

It's not a matter of lying or not lying, said Ali Abdullah. It's a matter of life or death.

Mr. Abdullah is a 31-year-old Sunni with dark skin, a strapping build and a bushy strip of mustache. Like most people in Baghdad, he is a man of secrets.

He was trained as an engineer in Saddam Hussein's Iraq but now works for an American nonprofit organization. His life has been threatened and his wife begs him to quit, but he says he can't -- the money is too good, and they have a 3-year-old son to think about.

Abdullah takes a taxi to work so his car won't be recognized. He uses different streets each time and changes his telephone number every few months.

He splurged on a $100 Swatch watch in neighboring Jordan, but now he's afraid to wear it in public. When people ask about his job, he lies and says he owns a computer shop.

Rule No. 1, he says: Never, under any circumstance, intimate to the neighbors on his predominantly Sunni street that he's sold out to the foreigners.

This is a killer, if my neighbors find out where I work, he said. This is the first thing that must be maintained, that my neighbors can't know what I do.

For Mr. Abdullah and his family, that has meant isolation. He shrinks from possible conversations, taking care not to linger in his doorway, make eye contact or trade small talk. When he caught sight of an old college friend across a crowded restaurant recently, he turned on his heels and rushed away to avoid conversation.

When they talk about the loss of intimacy, many Iraqis are mournful. Like members of most Middle Eastern societies, Iraqis have traditionally prized warmth and valued social interchange over what Westerners might regard as personal privacy. In the old Iraq, it was better to err on the side of nosiness than to appear cold or distant. It was perfectly normal to grill strangers on their marital status and the price of their possessions.

Little by little, that warmth has been bled away by war. Tension pulls on the city now. The atmosphere is thick with intrigue; it feels film noir, cloak-and-dagger. Except it is real -- and deadly.

Behavior has changed from rational behavior into instinctive, animalistic behavior, said Ehsan Mohammed Hassan, one of Iraq's leading sociologists and a professor at Baghdad University. The individual is not safe from the others. He has to hide. He doesn't want people to see him because he thinks the people are evil.

Amid the fear and loathing, a long-standing tribal tradition has disappeared. Etiquette used to require men to ask one another about their jobs; it was a way of showing concern for a friend's livelihood and to demonstrate willingness to help a man if he had fallen on hard times.

These days, though, to ask about jobs is impolite -- perhaps even dangerous. Instead, men find themselves throwing out other questions: How are you? What are you doing here?

A lot of people are killed for no reason. So what do you think they'll do if you work for the Americans? Mr. Abdullah asked. That's it. You're a traitor.

Working for the Iraqi government is no better -- everybody from university professors to national athletes to traffic police has been slaughtered by insurgents determined to bludgeon civic and social life to a standstill.

Iraq may be the only country in the world where militia members and anti-government insurgents walk the streets with bare faces while government workers, soldiers and cops cower behind masks.

I wear a mask because I don't want people to know I'm working for the police, a 34-year-old officer named Ahmed Ali said on a recent afternoon. It was lunch hour, and he and some of his colleagues had driven across Baghdad through the 110-degree heat to gobble down lamb kebabs in a neighborhood where they knew fewer people.

The men are stationed in the volatile Dora area, south of downtown and one of Baghdad's bloodiest sectarian battlefields. Clad in matching blue button-downs and navy trousers, their pistols holstered on their waists, they admitted they didn't dare bring their badges or uniforms home, not even to launder them.

They described slipping from the house in civilian clothes, creeping into the station and changing hurriedly into their uniforms.

Amid the fear, some profit. The document forger, for one.

Assad Kheldoun, a 29-year-old who operates out of the religiously mixed neighborhood of Shaab, grinds out fake identity cards for about $30 apiece. Exactly like the original, he boasts. But with one difference: A false name.

He's not selling to hustlers or mischief makers. Most of his clients are bus drivers, highway workers or car repairmen -- people forced to make their livings in Iraq's mean streets.

Last names are sectarian giveaways in Iraq, often deriving from tribes commonly known to be either Sunni or Shiite. Jaabour or Dulaimi, for instance, mean Sunni to Iraqis; so does the first name Omar.

People are getting killed because of their names, Kheldoun said. In the past few months, everybody is asking for a false identity card. It's a phenomenon now. The people are scared.
CIA, Secret Service, etc.

Fact:  Obama wouldn't pass a background check for either of these organizations based on his associations alone (Wright, Ayers, Dohrn, etc.), yet somehow it's different to be President?


Don't waste your time arguing the point.  Look it up for yourselves and start paying attention to plain facts. 


As a side item, none of us would qualify based on associations like these.


According to the secret service
those statements weren't made at her meeting or whatever.

Personally I think it could have been some Obama supporters there doing it just to start things. It may have not been endorsed by the Obama campaign but it could happen. In the same sense, she could have not heard it being up on stage if her supporters were saying it. I was talking to my husband about this (he's been in a couple of bands) and you know how sometime the band members will talk with the audience? Well they have done that before and he said he could never figure out what the crowd was yelling back when they all got going and after awhile you just tune it out. Could have been the same deal. Now if she was up there saying "we need to kill the terrorist" I would have to question her...

The mud is being slung from both sides ya'll, gotta dig deep to find the truth. Stop believing what's on the surface.
According to the Secret Service...

who yelled "kill him" when Barack Obama's name was mentioned during a Sarah Palin rally?


 


After investigating the claim, the Secret Service concluded that no one actually heard the comment that was widely reported in the media


There's a 100% guaranteed secret to
A simple exercise:

1. Place both hands on the edge of the table.

2. Lift both feet.

3. Push chair away from table.

4. Get up and leave.
McCain's secret plan

He keeps saying he knows how to find BinLaden and will do that after he is elected.  Why isn't he sharing his secret fool-proof plan to capture him with the current administration?  He is dangling that promise over our heads.  If he actually does have a fantastic plan, he is allowing the whole country to be vulnerable UNTIL he gets what he wants - the presidency.  Thumbs down on you, grandpa.


 


I am sure the Secret Service all love

piling into that Ford Focus everyday....lol  Methinks he probably has a limo or two, just not in his name...


Shhhh! That's supposed to be a secret.
Do you know how much it costs, in today's economy, to snooker one billion people?

Their messiah hasn't spent all those millions and millions of dollars on advertising for nothing.

If they know he's a blowhard fluke with a goose egg for experience, how will he win the election?

It's best just to keep them in the dark. Like cattle lining up to have a bolt shoved through their brains.
Secret meetings, bribes of

high power positions, media cartels, dead rabbits . . . kin I play the lead in your mind-movie?


 


One thing the secret ballot does
is keep employees from being fired because they vote for unionization.
The Secret Service is idiotic?

Secret Assassination Squad?

Hersh: 'Executive assassination ring' reported directly to Cheney








Muriel Kane
Published: Wednesday March 11, 2009












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Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh dropped a bombshell on Tuesday when he told an audience at the University of Minnesota that the military was running an "executive assassination ring" throughout the Bush years which reported directly to former Vice President Dik Cheney.

The remark came out seemingly inadvertently when Hersh was asked by the moderator of a public discussion of "America's Constitutional Crisis" whether abuses of executive power, like those which occurred under Richard Nixon, continue to this day.

Hersh replied, "After 9/11, I haven’t written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven’t been called on it yet."

Hersh then went on to describe a second area of extra-legal operations: the Joint Special Operations Command. "It is a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently," he explained. "They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office. ... Congress has no oversight of it."

"It’s an executive assassination ring essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on," Hersh stated. "Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on, in the name of all of us."

Hersh told MinnPost.com blogger Eric Black in an email exchange after the event that the subject was "not something I wanted to dwell about in public." He is looking into it for a book, but he believes it may be a year or two before he has enough evidence "for even the most skeptical."

Stories have been coming out about covert Pentagon assassination squads for the last several years. In 2003, Hersh himself reported on Task Force 121, which operated chiefly out of the Joint Special Operations Command. Others stories spoke of a proposed Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group.

As Hersh noted in Minnesota, the New York Times on Monday described the Joint Special Operations Command as overseeing the secret commando units in Afghanistan whose missions were temporarily ordered halted last month because of growing concerns over excessive civilian deaths.

However, it appears that Hersh is now on the trail of some fresh revelation about these squads and their connection to Vice-President Cheney that goes well beyond anything that has previously been reported.


Eric Black's blog posting, which includes an hour-long audio recording of the full University of Minnesota colloquy, is available here.


Secret Assassination Squad?

Hersh: 'Executive assassination ring' reported directly to Cheney








Muriel Kane
Published: Wednesday March 11, 2009












Print This  Email This




TwitThis TwitThis

Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh dropped a bombshell on Tuesday when he told an audience at the University of Minnesota that the military was running an "executive assassination ring" throughout the Bush years which reported directly to former Vice President Dik Cheney.

The remark came out seemingly inadvertently when Hersh was asked by the moderator of a public discussion of "America's Constitutional Crisis" whether abuses of executive power, like those which occurred under Richard Nixon, continue to this day.

Hersh replied, "After 9/11, I haven’t written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven’t been called on it yet."

Hersh then went on to describe a second area of extra-legal operations: the Joint Special Operations Command. "It is a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently," he explained. "They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office. ... Congress has no oversight of it."

"It’s an executive assassination ring essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on," Hersh stated. "Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on, in the name of all of us."

Hersh told MinnPost.com blogger Eric Black in an email exchange after the event that the subject was "not something I wanted to dwell about in public." He is looking into it for a book, but he believes it may be a year or two before he has enough evidence "for even the most skeptical."

Stories have been coming out about covert Pentagon assassination squads for the last several years. In 2003, Hersh himself reported on Task Force 121, which operated chiefly out of the Joint Special Operations Command. Others stories spoke of a proposed Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group.

As Hersh noted in Minnesota, the New York Times on Monday described the Joint Special Operations Command as overseeing the secret commando units in Afghanistan whose missions were temporarily ordered halted last month because of growing concerns over excessive civilian deaths.

However, it appears that Hersh is now on the trail of some fresh revelation about these squads and their connection to Vice-President Cheney that goes well beyond anything that has previously been reported.


Eric Black's blog posting, which includes an hour-long audio recording of the full University of Minnesota colloquy, is available here.


Yup, I do remember. The secret weapons sales ....sm
to Iran are especially given what we are going through with Iran now.
Battle over UBS secret accounts to take months

 


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/UBS_SECRETS?SITE=VACUL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT


Secret service has said "yes" they do have these weapons...
I agree, the U.S. should nEVER stick their nose in any country's business as far as I am concerned; however, with Obama, it is no secret he has never stayed silent with the asian countries but has bowed his way through the muslim countries.... O lovers can think what they want but O is Muslim, will always be Muslim, and that's that....don't really care what anyone else thinks...his silence speaks volumes. O says he wants to "reach out" to the muslim world... well folks, this is his chance to just say something. He doesn't have to interfere and shouldn't.

Don't worry about your precious Obama..... he has no power whatsoever. He is nothing more than a little puppet being pulled by very elite people.... how else do you think he was elected? Sure as heck not because he's qualified!!!

Mousavi is like choosing between bad and evil.... either way, those folks are screwed!! BTW, we should NEVER be involved with the UN. We don't need other countries to decide for us what we should and should not do....

And when you're paying through your nose in Obama's taxes for your wonderful government controlled life, see how much you love him then! And, yes, he will screw you over too!
No, she'll deliver another baby after a secret pregnancy. nm
x


Secret Service to investigate hate speech
Now that campaign is a real class act.
Secret Service Shows Up At Texas Mom's Door...














Quote:
They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me,
and by that time no one was left to speak up.








Quote:
Last week, here in America, they came for Jessica Hughes, and I will not be silent. I will not turn away, hoping, in the end, they will not come for me.

Jessica Hughes of Lufkin, Texas, former Marine, mother of three, answered her cell phone in the car, coming home from the emergency room. Her 9-year-old had suffered a mild concussion, but was OK.

The caller was a female Obama volunteer who asked if Jessica would support Obama for president.

Jessica replied, "No, I don't support him. Your guy is a socialist who voted four times in the state Senate to let little babies die in hospital closets; I think you should find something better to do with your time." Then Jessica hung up.

The next day, a man and a woman in suits showed up at the door of her home, identifying themselves as members of the Secret Service.

The Secret Service agents stated that the Obama campaign had complained of a death threat. They had quoted Jessica as saying, "I will never support Obama, and he will wind up dead on a hospital floor."

Jessica's husband had heard Jessica's side of the original phone call and verified the actual quote. To which the female agent replied, "Oh? Well why would she (the Obama volunteer) make that up?"

Jessica replied that the Obama volunteer was probably unhappy about what Jessica had said about her candidate. The female agent then said "That's right, you were rude!"

The male agent then displayed a file with Jessica's full name prominently printed on it and asked her how she felt about Obama. At this point, the former Marine told the agent "in no uncertain terms" (as she later recounted) that this was America and that the last time she checked, she was allowed to think whatever she wanted without being questioned by the Secret Service. And was being "rude" a federal crime now too?

The agents then admitted they had no tape of the conversation, just the quote from the Obama campaign.

Responding to Jessica's questions, the agents would not identify themselves by name, nor reveal the name of the Obama volunteer who had made the complaint. The agents did indicate that Jessica was not in a court of law yet, and that they were trying to not embarrass her "by going to all her family and neighbors."

To these implied threats, Jessica invited the agents to speak to whomever they wanted, and stated she would happily go to court since she had done nothing wrong.

Jessica asked the agents, "Look, someone calls me unsolicited on my cell phone to ask me to support their candidate, and I can't tell them why I don't?"

The Secret Service left Jessica that day, but she could not get the "visit" out of her mind.


Source:http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77825

Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over
Sarah Palin's attacks on Barack Obama's patriotism provoked a spike in death threats against the future president, Secret Service agents revealed during the final weeks of the campaign.

The Republican vice presidential candidate attracted criticism for accusing Mr Obama of "palling around with terrorists", citing his association with the sixties radical William Ayers.

The attacks provoked a near lynch mob atmosphere at her rallies, with supporters yelling "terrorist" and "kill him" until the McCain campaign ordered her to tone down the rhetoric.

But it has now emerged that her demagogic tone may have unintentionally encouraged white supremacists to go even further.

The Secret Service warned the Obama family in mid October that they had seen a dramatic increase in the number of threats against the Democratic candidate, coinciding with Mrs Palin's attacks.
So how many threats on Palin's life is the Secret Service
THAT'S what!
An John McCain supported the secret sale of weapons...sm
to Iran during Iran/Contra to raise money to support the contras in Nicaragua (sp)when Congress refused to fund them. Talk about criminal activity. IRAN I am telling you, Iran! McCain thinks it is OK to keep you and I in the dark and take us from a democracy to a fascist nation for our "own good". Several republican presidents in my lifetime have been guilty of this. We do need fixing. I do not envy anyone who gets elected. I think I would run the other way. It is not going to be easy, but I have hope with Obama and do not trust John McCain.
AWWW....you weren't supposed to tell anyone!! Can't keep a secret worth a dang!!

Bush first ex-prez to face limit on Secret Service protection

By Maria Recio McClatchy Newspapers


WASHINGTON — President George W. Bush's "after-life," as Laura Bush calls the post-presidency, is shaping up to be pretty comfortable, with a Dallas office, staffers, Secret Service protection, a travel budget, medical coverage and a $196,700 annual pension, all at taxpayers' expense.


However, Bush will be the first president not to benefit from one former lifetime benefit: Secret Service protection.


"He'll be the first one to receive it for 10 years," said Malcolm Wiley, Secret Service spokesman. Congress changed the law in the 1990s so that any president elected after Jan. 1, 1997, and his or her spouse will receive the federal protection for only 10 years.


The Bushes will move to their new $2 million, 8,500-square-foot Dallas home — not paid for by taxpayers — on Jan. 20, and there Bush will be close to his future presidential library at Southern Methodist University.


"We're working on a conceptual design for the building," said Mark Langdale, president of the George W. Bush Foundation. The president will help develop the $300 million structure, which will include a library, museum and policy institute.


Fundraising is just beginning, Langdale said. Once the project is finished in 2013, the National Archives and Records Administration will take over the operation of the library and museum, at federal expense. Construction will be paid for with private funds, and Bush is expected to be involved in organizing the fundraising drive.


"He is enthusiastic about spending a lot of his time and effort working on the programs of the institute," Langdale said.


Bush will maintain an office nearby in space acquired by the General Services Administration, which, under the Former Presidents Act, will pay for the office suite and staff to assist him for the rest of his life.


Bush's pension, which is tied to the base pay of the most senior government executives and increases with federal cost-of-living adjustments, will be about half the $400,000 annual presidential salary. He and Vice President Dick Cheney will receive transition expenses as well for seven months — one month before the inauguration and six months afterward — "to facilitate their transition to private life," according to the Congressional Research Service.


The GSA also covers travel expenses for any official activities attended by a former president, as well as two staff members. Former President Bill Clinton was allocated $50,000 for travel in fiscal year 2008 and former President George H.W. Bush, $56,000.


Former presidents and their families are entitled to health care in military hospitals, although they have to pay a reimbursement rate set by the Office of Management and Budget.


Bush will receive a state funeral upon his death, with full military honors for the former commander in chief.


what in the heck
happened to the feminist movement, and/or growing up as women? why are women acting so catty (no offense meant to cats)...We are attacking a VP candidate for what she wears? As if that makes her more or less qualified, or has anything at all to do with her ability to connect with/understand the populace?, not to mention the polices. give me a break. BTW, who complains about Mr. try-to-be-a-common-man's suit being so sharp and pricey? You can't tell me that wasn't a mega-dollar suit Obama has been seen in lately -- but who cares??? Shake off the fluff of it all people and look at the character, integrity and wisdom of the candidates!!!
Heck no
I sure wouldn't. If people can't wear their shirts showing their candidates, he should not be able to dress that way, which is a blatant attempt to intimidate voters.
It is a heck of a lot different when
they are paying actors 3 million plus per movie and that is only one actor.  That is just ridiculous.  If these liberal actors want to help the little people so much, why don't they take a pay cut so hollywood can afford to pay the little guys who help make the movies, etc.  Why should the tax payers have to pay for it?  These big wigs in hollywood are making millions upon millions a year and hollywood wants MY money to create jobs.  Are you friggin KIDDING ME!!!!! 
Heck NO!
It is not MY responsibility to fund someone's contraceptive.......PERIOD! That's the same as my encouraging they have sex without worrying about the consequences in the first place.

And I sure as heck DO NOT want to fund contraceptive for the world! We need to worry about the unwanted children right here in our own back yards. We cannot police the world. We have private organizations that deal with many ministries and help throughout the world. PRIVATE DONATIONS are the key words here.........not forced taxpayer funding!
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Who the heck do you think you are...
to tell this woman that she should have carried her rapist's baby for 9 months and given birth to it? Don't you have anything more important to do than meddle in other people's lives?
Heck, they could do it for $500. I need a new TV set.
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What the heck,
better just check 'am all. 
What the heck does it matter to you
what happens on the conservative board.  Like most liberals you feel an innate desire to police everything everywhere as you and your uppity ilk are a lot better than everyone else...You have a board, stay on it, and have your nice little liberal tea parties over here.  I for one couldn't give a rat's ass what you think about the conservative board...you elitist control freaks...now can you TAKE that!
Oh heck no, I have been here since the board was all on one. sm
I just don't post much anymore.
There is not a hope in heck of ...
impeaching Bush unless we recall every single Democratic senator and representative who voted for the war. Let's get real about this. They voted for the war. READ the resolution before you start arguing. It is very clear in its message and they FULLY understood what they were voting on. If they did not, then they do not been to be in the offices they hold!! They can READ, I assume. They had the same intelligence that the President had. Democrats sat on the Intelligence Committees who were briefed by the same people who briefed the President. It is a load of unadulterated MANURE (to use the Code Pink ladies' song) to now state that they were lied to and they didn't know the truth. Well, all I can say is, they do not deserve to be in Washington as your representatives if they did NOT do the research and talk to the advisors and the military et. al. before agreeing to the resolution. Now that the going has gotten tough, the Democrats want to do what they do best, that is cut and run, no matter what happens to the Iraqi people or to the morale of our men and women in uniform, just like they did during Viet Nam. It is a travesty, it plays right into the hands of the enemy, and I would not doubt in the latest that Sean Penn, Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, Hanoi Jane, and the Pink Ladies are now starring in Al Qaeda recruitment and propaganda videos. And they should each be ashamed of that fact. But there is something seriously lacking in those people...empathy and common sense. And no one will respond to my challenge...why don't the Code Pink ladies take their cause to the real enemies of this country...the ones who took down the towers...the ones who bombed the Cole...the ones who bombed the WTC the FIRST time...the ones who downed the plane over Lockerbie...the ones who blew up the Marine barracks in Beirut....how, LVMT, can you INGORE all that loss of American life? How can THEY??? Why don't Sarandon, Robbins, Penn, all of them, get an audience with bin Laden? Tell HIM to give peace a chance...try to get his followers to IMPEACH HIM. Probably, because as Bill O'Reilly so astutely pointed out...they like their heads attached to their shoulders. They are sniveling cowards. While our men and women in the military are in harm's way ever day fighting the noble fight, we have these cowards who DARE to call themselves and their cause noble, busy undermining it as fast and as publically as they can. They do not have the common sense to be ashamed of themselves, so I will be ashamed FOR them. And if you were a patriotic American, you would be too.
Oh I don't know, you are doing a heck of a fine job...
passing off insult as intelligence. You have it down to a fine art. Verrryyy impressive. "Certainly the issues seem to be a big taboo." Well I suppose so...since I have asked you a very simple question repeatedly and you can't seem to stop with the insults long enough to answer it....lol.

As to plagiarizing...rather than do that, you just post under different monikers...to support your own argument I guess? Ahem. Ego need a little stroking there?

Hope you find some of that substantive conversation. Heaven only knows who would sit through a 20-minute dissertation hoping that at some time a point would emerge or just one little question would be answered. Good luck!
What the heck are you babbling?
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heck, why work?
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And the dems want to tax the heck out of your
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GP, you tickle the heck out of me!
Save the feathers; as I remember, you can pick some of your teeth with them! I guess we could start a political cookbook, but I think I'd rather bring back the stocks!
What the heck is the PROBLEM?!

I remember in the mid 1980s, my old car died.  The last thing I wanted was to incur a new monthly car payment, but I needed a car.


I went to the Chevy lot and asked to see the cheapest new car they had.  They showed me a Chevy Sprint -- bare bones.  (The car didn't have air conditioning and didn't even have a RADIO.)  I bought it because I was desperate.  (I remember my prepubescent daughter HATING me for getting it because the front passenger visor didn't have a MIRROR.)


That dang car got 50 MILES PER GALLON!  I bought a radio (and a mirror for the front passenger visor), and later, my dad had air conditioning installed as a birthday present.  It turned out to be the best car I ever had and was very, very cheap to purchase.


If they could manufacture a car like that 20-plus years ago, why can't they do it now?


that makes a whole heck of a lot of

sense since isn't obama the one wanting to spend less money on our defense?  I don't believe that Obama will stop any terrorist attack. 


Some one please explain to me....you all blame Bush for 9/11 stating that there were warnings about planes, etc.  Did they give a specific day?  Which planes?  So does the president take this information and land all planes and not allow air travel at all on that day?  Do they evacuate all tall buildings and monuments just in case?  Could 9/11 have been prevented?  We all seem to know who to point the finger at but I'm sure dealing with terrorist and terrorists threats is a whole different ball game than us just sitting back and watching bad things happening and wanting to know why it wasn't stopped.


All I can say is that God forbid we have another terrorist attack, we will just have to wait and see how Obama handles it.  I think it would be hard for any president to prevent some of these things, but that is just something we are going to have to see play out before we know the answer to it. 


sure as heck NOT hollywood either!!!
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Heck Gov - just grow some more pot!
Now that's thinkin, Lincoln!
And you are right, and I am P.O'ed as heck about that but....sm
Okay, that is one of the things in this "package" that I think is insane and absolutely STUPID and WRONG. But would I throw out so many of the good proposals in that bill because of it, things that will actually create jobs, actually help some (SOME) deserving folk not go out on the street, extend unemployment benefits because there are almost NO JOBS out there and families will need this to fall back on as they look for jobs...the $$$ that will go for elcerly, disabled, the money that will go toward strengthing out BORDERS, and lots of folk here complain about the ALIENS, well, that takes money! Stronger borders also means less drugs get in, they will still get in I know, but less will. STOP throwing out the baby with the bathwater, for God's sake. The country is starting to remind me of a bunch of little kids with ADHD hiked up on sugar, running around, taking tantrums, and wanting things NOW. What about the past 8 years as this was all in the making????