Wow, that is HARSH......
Posted By: Observer on 2007-10-03
In Reply to: I'm sad but not surprised. Bill was vetoed by Bush. - (sm) kam
calling someone a waste of oxygen? Look, President Bush and I disagree on a lot of issues...but the veto is as much the Dems in Congress' fault as it is Bush's. He did not veto the program, he vetoed expanding it to the tune of 6 billion dollars. I don't know about you, but 30-40% off the top of our gross income is ENOUGH already. Why NOT give businesses a tax cut to provide insurance to employees at a lower cost than now, and why not give individuals a tax cut for premiums so they can afford their own insurance? Why on EARTH tax us more? I agree with what you said about prioritization, and I have posted on this board ad nauseam that I felt they should prioritize social programs' money and kids' insurance should come FIRST. Not a SINGLE person agreed with that. You are the FIRST one to say that also. Do you know what they meant by "expansion?" The Dems want to open it up to illegals' kids in a LEGAL way, even though it is already clogged with illegals as it stands, taking money and benefits that should go to American children. That is one of the reasons it was vetoed. Another reason it was vetoed is that it expands coverage to a family of 4 (2 adults 2 kids) making $80,000 a year. I'm sorry, but that is NOT low income. I'm sorry again, but I don't see why a family making $80,000 a year cannot afford to insure their children. I say give them a tax cut so there is a benefit to spending the money to insure their children. But, you say tax cut to a Democrat and they go ape-crazy.
I mean, let's get real. Are they going to expand the program again in 5 years to family of 4 making $120 a year because THEY can't pay for kids' insurance because they are being taxed to death? We really, really, REALLY have to stop entitlement, tax, entitlement, tax, entitlement tax....before ALL of us have to have entitlements to PAY the taxes!!!
Bush (and again, I don't agree with him on everything, and a true conservative he is NOT), practically begged the Dems not to do it this way, tried his best to get them to compromise, and they would have nothing of it. He asked that they extend the program as-is, with all the children covered who have been covered for the last 10 years the program has been in existence, while they worked out a better compromise. But they would have NOTHING of it. Sorry, but I cannot lay the blame for this at Bush's feet. I think Congress has to bear the burden as well. He has been telling them all along he would veto it, but rather than compromise and get most of what they wanted but not ALL, they chose to send him a bill they knew he would veto. If brains were dynamite they couldn't collectively blow their own noses. But...I stop short of calling them a "waste of oxygen." Jerks, YES, but not a waste of oxygen.
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wow that's harsh.
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I agree with that. It is too harsh a...
sentence, especially since the guy was a drug smuggler and only had a wound to the rear-end. That is why I am now leaning to a pardon....but why am I thinking there will be some nutjob judge who will actually grant that illegal compensation from the US govt (he is suing). THAT is what I mean that illegals should have no legal standing in this country. Period. SIGH.
She can be harsh, but she tells it like it is.
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Well...here is a harsh dose of reality....
yes, he said that...however...he was also endorsed by terrorists (Hamas) and Iran...that in and of itself should be concerning. Why do you think they said that? Perhaps because he also said that if the winds turn ugly, he would stand with the Muslims, and they took him literally? Or perhaps he meant it literally? Who knows what he really means? He lived his way one life up until he ran for President, and then turned away from all that as each issue was brought up, because he knew it would hurt his candidacy. So who IS the real Barack Obama? Do YOU know? That is not dark and foreboding. It is being vigilant, it is asking for trust and respect to be earned...adoration is fine, but please be vigilant as well. For YOUR own good.
Ann can be harsh, but she is so smart and tells
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that's good them. I'm sure Obama will have harsh words
for the people who did. That's what I like and respect about him. It's too bad that people like this exist. I think the candidate have their hands full enough with issues without having to deal with something like this now. I hope they find the people who did it and cut off their hands or give them a labotomy or something.
Little harsh, Bradley, but I agree with the tax issue,
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Agree! Rush can be harsh, but tells it like it is.
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