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You are so right in your post, but you have to admit that in these horrible times particularly.....s

Posted By: Cyndiee on 2009-02-11
In Reply to: but part of what got us here - sbMT

There are 50 and even 60-year-old workers who are filing unemployment for the first time in their lives, never thought they would, and are humiliated to do so! When there are no jobs to be found, and there is no money coming in, we do owe a hand up to our fellow man. Remember, Jesus said "for as much as you give to the least of my children, you do it unto me." There is welfare abuse, but saying that this is the main cause of our economic collapse or the major social problem is like saying that Jack the Ripper had a bad temper!! Desperate times bring desperate measures, it is good if you and I can to go bed with a full belly and a roof over our heads, but what about those WHO WILL NOT if they do not get help until they get back on their feet? Hey, I know some of those abusers and it gripes me to no end because my husband and I are working every available minute to raise our three planned, beloved kids. But atrocities like the OCTO-MOM and her 14 kids is the freakish, sad deviation from the norm, the bad exception. Do not condemn social awareness and social responsibility to those who truly need and deserve it, and that is more and more folks these days!! (off soap box for now, I think!!)


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OMG...that is horrible!!!

Only 55 and too old for a CABG.  How sad is that?  That must have been horrible for your friend and her family!


 


Is this what we really want America?  Listen up Kool-Aid drinkers!!!!  Is that what you really want in health care? 


Horrible for her family...
and hearing the candidates' (both sides) reactions to it have been interesting. All have the similar thread tho...must preserve democracy in Pakistan.
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you horrible atheist
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It is such a horrible thing when

the American people disagree with the democrats who want to spend spend and spend more of OUR money.  I guess that makes us a bunch of bumbling idiots, huh?


And you know what's funny....a bunch of these same Americans who don't like Democrats spending OUR money are the same people who didn't like it when the pubs were spending OUR money. 


Then you have the ones who didn't mind when the pubs spent the money but hate that the dems are and vice versa.  Double standards....all double standards.  If McCain had won and was spending all this money, you would be spitting nails right now.


It must have been so horrible that O preferred not to
release the memos and the pictures.
And there are also some among them who are not yet proven guilty and are tortured until they admit.
Yes, we are so horrible we are fundraising for Katrina right now.
HORRIBLE PEOPLE WE ARE!
If it truly happend, it's horrible. But neither repub
to control what people do. All they can do is condemn the act. Obviously this was just some punk gangster, and my belief is that if she'd had an Obama sticker on her car, he probably would've carved an M for McCain.
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ROFL! That is horrible but funny!

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I don't care how much you hate someone or how much rage you feel. There is never a good reason to commit violence, and of that type. Yes her daughter suffered through a rape, but the thought of what a human being was going through while they are in the process of dying in that fashion is just too much and makes me sad.

I believe that the lady and her daughter should have gone to counceling to work out their frustrations of injustice done to her daughter. If they were going to counceling maybe they should have switched counselors.

I will never think something like what she did is okay to do.

I feel sad for the daughter (rape victim) and the lady's family and also the family members of the rapist to know their relative suffered such a horror.

I hope the lady sits in jail and and gets the counseling she needs and I hope she doesn't get out for a long time.
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Yeah, those horrible signs

Who do they think they are, gathering and exercising their first amendment rights like that?  And  all those signs came from republican central planning, didn't they?  Maybe there could have been heavier attendance, but many of the potential supporters actually have jobs. 


The MMM was organized by Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam.  It would have been soooooo politically incorrect before, during and after the million man march to characterize all the participants as nuts, sexist racist kooks with a single hateful agenda, trouble makers, disgruntled black men just looking to cause problems. 


Yet the reverse is excactly how tea party participants were portrayed, which is okey-dokey with most people. 


In the dish it out/take it department, the left has pretty a sweet deal because they can say the most prejudiced, outrageous things about the right and get by with it.  But when the right criticizes the left it is always claimed that we are selfish, racist, sexist, homophobic bigots.  It's not about your race, your gender, or your lifestyle.  It's about socialism versus capitalism, okay? 


Yes, America is so horrible that nearly everyone from every country on earth sm
wants to live here.  What does that tell you? 
He invaded a country and committed horrible atrocities there...
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It's like watching a horrible car crash in really slow motion.

Obama is letting them drop charges against terrorists for this horrible sick crime???

What orifice did you pull this out of?


You can't admit the war was

I am not sure I would admit that if I were you. nm.
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I believe one has to admit..
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They will not admit anything except
IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT!
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many of those who voted for him would like to see him out of the White House now!
You have to admit...
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You have to admit...
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I will admit that there are some
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You posted the article above as a racial post and you shot the finger.  We all know it.  Someone might think you are lying.
at least you admit it was dirt

....and you obviously are not able to follow simple rules of courtesy and good manners in addition to the rules of this board.  It seems your need to deride, disdain, mock and make fun of the liberal posters on a liberal board is something that you cannot control.  You might wish to ponder at some point why you feel the compelling need for cruelty.  It does not win us over, but rather is a very poor advertisement for your far right-wing beliefs.


As far as who I am, I am the same as every other poster - anonymous with a made-up moniker.  It is NOT a good idea to post our real names on a public forum and I would advise you or anyone else against it, unless you have an extremely common name. 


I am intolerant. I admit it.
I am intolerant of a great many things. I am most intolerant of lip service. My intolerance comes from living a life of seeing human life belittled, stepped on, and twisted by those who feel superior to others and that behavior being justified because of their beliefs, and most horrendously, in the name of their god. Yes, I do call myself a pagan now. God and I parted ways a long time ago.

I apologize to you. It seems that you have chosen a noble cause. I, however, cannot fathom how or why one can have so much compassion for one piece of humanity or human life and not another. If the children in your eyes need help the most, then how can you possibly justify the war in Iraq, or any war for that matter, is purposeful when they are dying by the thousands? Or worse, maimed for life. I do not see much balance in that.

I am going to chalk it up to perhaps that is the nature of conservatism. Or perhaps it is a lack of empahthy?

Spin the words all you want. Your posts may be written to illustrate a point of view, but with a great deal of superciliousness. I am not the only one with this belief. Others have tried to point it out as well. Perhaps they're just better at it than I am.

I call things the way I perceive them, and I don't sugar coat it and I won't apologize for it. But for the sake of propriety, I shall resist the temptation.
well...at least you admit it. You hate....
an entire block of people you don't even know who had nothing to do with Katrina or how it was handled...simply because they are Republican.

Geez.
surprised to see Mc admit

that the US tortured prisoners. He said we won't ever torture prisoners AGAIN.  He stood around and allowed that to happen -- he the man who wants all to remember his pow experience?


 


Even I will admit that KO is extremely
biased toward Obama. Have you see McCain in the Membrane? But I do enjoy his humor. I often wonder though, who has to pick up those papers off the floor after he throws them at the camera?
They don't want to see the truth or admit the
truth because if they did they would have to admit that Bill Clinton, outside of Jimmy Carter, was the worst president this country has ever had....and now, they are so stupidly blind that they think Obama is going to bring "change" but it will be a change that no one can stomach or live with. All I can pray for is that there will be a second American Revolution and that we the people, under the law of the Constitution, can and will form a new government, one that is not corrupt and one that has not one DEM in office!!!
I admit that I am not black.

I guess you could say I have not walked in a black person's shoes.  However, don't for one second think that I have never felt racism.  I've seen the glares and dirty looks aimed in my direction by black people.  I've given smiles to strangers who instead of smiling back would glare hatefully at me.  I've said, "I have a nice day," to people who have either given me a dirty look or turned their back to me. 


I was at a hospital visiting my dying father when I left with my son to get something to eat.  My son is very young and has a developmental delay.  A black mother and her daughter walked onto the elevator with us.  My son, not knowing any better, looked at the little girl and commented that she was brown.  Without even thinking I said, "Yes she is.  Isn't she beautiful!"  The mother gave me the dirtiest look.


If he screws up - I will admit it, but ....
I don't see that he did anything wrong. Traditionally, maybe the meetings are kept secret - but nowhere is that a written rule. And Obama did not go to the press and repeat his conversations, an aide anonymously released the information.

In my opinion, he was discussing things with his advisors and someone overstepped their boundaries releasing information. Maybe that person should be fired because they are not going to be able to be trusted?

However, I for one like to know what is going on in my country and the fact that no sensitive information was released makes it okay with me.

Obama is not perfect - he even said himself that he knew he would make mistakes. He is a HUMAN. I expect people to mess up. But remember also, he ran on a platform of change and maybe being honest and open with the American public is how he is going to begin that change.
I admit I am surprised at your age.
I think the majority of the older people realize what is coming.  "Conspiracy" isn't exactly such a bad word for it.
Can you really not admit that there is a bias?
If this guy had done this same piece but insert Obama's name instead of Palin's, not one of the liberals would have had anything to say about it except praise. Yet when it's Palin, you all want to talk about "oh she's whining, she needs to grow up, etc". What needs to happen is that the media needs to get their lips off of Obama's bum.

I really can't wait until the day the media starts picking him to pieces. And it will come. One thing about affairs, eventually the fire burns out. The media will need something new and hot eventually.
you freely admit that you don't

know why she left.  Your "Sue Ann" worship is more sickening than the admiration of Obama who has actual character attributes and accomplishments to admire - not just some little mind that agrees with yours. Grow up.


 


 


I will admit that I am afraid, because
and what he states is no different than how the Arab leaders make their speeches.