You clearly don't understand what offensive means
Posted By: me on 2008-08-25
In Reply to: You are clearly overreacting!!! - NM
Or maybe you are the original poster. I don't know and I don't care, but your statement enforces what I wrote. You are defending the poster and you clearly don't care that it offends people. And by the way, what in the world does bring Barack's middle name into the conversation have anything to do with the post. Yes, we all know his name is Hussein or maybe you like HUSSEIN. It's a beautiful name. It means "good, small handome one". Anyway, it was never mentioned in the original post, so my question is what is your motive for bringing it up, and if you bring Barack's middle name "Hussein" into the conversation why don't you bring in Joe's middle name "Robinette". This sounds like another scare tactic I would expect to come out of the McCain camp.
Also, not sure I understand what John McCain and Kerry's wife have anything to do with each other. I know Kerry's wife's family is the Heinz ketchup people, but I don't know what John McCain has to do with that.
So maybe instead of defending the poster (and sounding like a McCain supporter - I don't know you and you may not be, but when you defend the poster it sounds like you are), maybe you ought to think how people feel about such a dispicable comparison.
By the way...this is a board where we can express our opinions so don't tell me if I don't like the subject get on with it and don't read it...maybe you should get on with it and stop trying to defend something so offensive.
This mole hill would not have been made into a mountain if the original poster had simply written, I'm sorry it offended you and left it at that, but no, they had to defend themselves and start bashing me, and then others decided they would chime in.
So I guess you don't know what offensive is and that what you may think is "freaky" or "funny" is offensive to other people. I'd say drop the conversation.
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No you are offensive
You did not say a homosexual/heterosexual relationship. You called us homo's. That is offensive. And I could care less whether or not you approve of our lifestyle. I find your church-going backwards thinking offensive, and that my friend will never change. You impose your bible beliefs upon everyone else and expect that everyone should live like you do. You think we should just turn the "homo button" off and live just like you do. Were you around in the biblical times of Sodom and Gomorrah, I highly doubt it, so don't even proclaim of knowing what was or wasn't offensive back during that time.
And the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah had nothing to do with homosexuality.
"The greatest sin of the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah may have been their lack of hospitality towards guests visiting their city, and not sexual deviance"
The truth about Sodom and Gomorrah -
http://www.whosoever.org/v2i3/sodom.html
Yep....that's just about as offensive...(sm)
as insinuating people who don't believe are somehow second class citizens or that people who have different beliefs are not entitled to the same rights. Don't you think it's a little ridiculous to actually threaten me with the wrath of God when I don't even believe in God? Using religion and God as a threat (as the above poster did) is nothing but trying to bully the rest of us based on beliefs that don't hold water with us.
I will, however, apologize to you and M if I offended you because I understand where you are coming from and respect that. However, you should be aware that my father was the easter bunny ;) I have a thing for colorful eggs and things that hop.
I am sorry if my being pro life is offensive to you...
however, I have not called any individual a profane and hateful name. Defend it if you like. Birds of a feather.
Because I find it offensive
I see the sam squad btch and complain when weary posters seek to ban her from the board when she is outnumbered, rally to her defense and smugly proclaim themselves conquering heroes and then turn right around and behave the same way toward the left-side version of sam. Of course, this is entirely predictable when considering that hypocrisy is inbred amongst the pubs. It is that genetic trait that I feel compelled to point out because it has much larger political implications relative to the broader issues that pubs spend so much time avoiding. In case you missed it the first time around, let me point out that this is not a whine, but rather an observation and criticism of hypocrisy and double standard that the pubs seek to promote as legitimate campaign rhetoric (NOT). It is that legitimate campaign rhetoric to which I now turn my attention.
Not any more offensive than Obama using the...
campaign plane and campaign dollars for personal business, when he is personally wealthy and could afford to pay his own way. She is not personally wealthy and there is no way to recoup jet fuel. At least the clothes can be donated to charity. Let's exhibit a little fairness here.
THIS IS VULGAR AND OFFENSIVE
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Exactly. Is 'hetero' offensive?
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I won't even go into how offensive and wrong this statement is. sm
and I mean wrong ethically, morally and spiritually.
If ignorance is offensive, then yes. You do offend. nm
I am sorry that you find the truth offensive....
but it is the truth, nevertheless. This is on the Democratic website:
Civil Rights & Justice
Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That's why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws (not true) and every law that protects workers. Most recently, Democrats stood together to reauthorize the Voting Rights Act.
On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight (not true, in fact, quite the opposite). We support vigorous enforcement of existing laws, and remain committed to protecting fundamental civil rights in America.
Sometimes a reminder is justified, as the DNC seems to have a lapse of memory concerning where the party once stood.
Why not be honest? Why not say they have things in their past they are ashamed of (as all of us do), or just leave that part out? Why put an untruth on the website?
You say one party was not responsible for causing it...no, NO "party" was responsible for causing it, but one party was responsible for keeping it in place until a civil war was fought, and even for 90 years AFTER that war conspired to keep African Americans from the vote. It happened, it is history, denying it does not change it. And they are still denying it, as you are, to this day.
As to loving to argue that the Democrats voted for the war too...that is ONLY when people try to assert that President Bush alone was responsible for the war in Iraq. And if you will be fair, when you look at my posts, DW, I said Congress was responsible, BOTH sides. I never tried to say the Democrats alone were responsible.
As to African Americans knowing what happened then...I doubt they do. And being human, you are right, in the grand scheme of things they care about the now, like most humans.
However, it DID happen. And if you have to be offended, you should be offended at those in your party who, no matter WHEN they did it, at one point sought to enslave and then oppress African Americans. It happened. Be offended that they did it, not that someone posted it.
Or do not be offended at all, own up to the fact it was done, admit that Republicans did a the right thing for the right reason at a time when this country sorely needed someone to do the right thing for the right reason.
No, what is offensive and vulgur is your continued
moaning and harping and complaining. Lighten up. What we need is for you people to give something a little bit of a chance before you drown everything and everybody with your doom and gloom predictions. I was merely suggesting something more constructive!
The only thing that is vulgar and offensive
is what you substituted for " ****** " in your own mind. Talk about projection.
WOW, RACIST MUCH?! That's incredibly offensive. nm
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Sign is clear, concise, and not offensive.
This sign represents the feelings of many US citizens. As such, it belongs alongside all of the other religious displays at this time of year. Personally, I love it!
BTDT. This is an equally offensive opportunity.
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Calling everyone RELIGIOUS FREAKS is as offensive
As me calling you a S L U T for your supposed 'rape.'
Get over yourself. Too bad your mother supported your abortion, instead of having one of her own.
your choice of words in this post is offensive
What's next using the "f" word, and do you call African American's the "N" word.
We all don't "have" a choice in whom we choose to love. You evidently do not understand what it is to be gay, and without any knowledge it would be better for you to not post at all because you are offensive in more than just this post. The others were bad enough but calling us homo is like calling a black person a "n_____".
Rosa Parks could not change her color and gay people cannot change how they feel towards another human being. We don't have a "gay" button we can turn on and off.
Enough with your disrespectful comments towards other people who don't agree with you and calling us slanderous names. If you can't control the words you choose maybe the moderator can.
I no more understand it than I understand the extremely poor taste and blasphemous sm
post with pictures on the other board. Are we clear now?
There are other choices. I find Obama and McCain equally offensive, so I am voting for Ralph Nader.
Bob Barr might also be a good choice.
I think you know what she means...nm
Oh, by all means, it is I who thank you.
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This means nothing to me
I have seen this and it has been debated as naseum.
As far as winning in Iraq, I am not sure what we are supposed to win.
And please, don't EVER call me your DEAR again. Keep your patronizing on our own board.
Thank you.
It means nothing to you. sm
Yes, by all means, save your anger for being called dear when there it is posted in black and white what the antiwar movement did to our soldiers in Vietnam. Lord love a duck, but I have seen it all now.
Oh, I know what it means....
It is just an uneducated, goofy thing to say...that's all. And you should apologize to all those "grandmas" on this site who you just offended. You are so negative! 
Thanks - that means a lot
Was wondering if anyone would comment. I always question what the government feeds us, but I truly never have in my entire life ever heard our enemies say they hate us because we are free. I always think - how absurd. They just want us to leave them along and stop imposing our viewpoints on them. Thanks again.
I did not know what this means
I'm not sure if you're implying this is a good thing or not and because I didn't know what it means I looked it up. I'll write what I found out and then you can tell me if you think its a good thing or not.
Black theology refers to a variety of Christian theologies which has at its base in the liberation of the marginalized, especially the injustice done towards blacks in American and South African contexts. Black theology mixes liberation theology and the work of Paulo Freire with the civil rights and black power movements.
I had to keep researching certain terms in this because it was still confusing, so I looked up liberation theology and it states that liberation theology is a school of theology within Christianity, particularly in the Roman Catholic Church. Two of the starting points of Liberation theology are first, the question of the original sin, and second, the idea that Christians should make good use of the talents given by God, and that includes intelligence in a general sense, and in particular science.
I then looked up who Paulo Freire is and it says he was a brazilian educator and influential theorist of education. He became familiar with poverty and hunger during the 1929 depression and these experiences shaped his concerns for the poor and would help to construct his particular educational viewpoint.
There's way to much information on both these topics to write here, but to me it sounds like another positive for the Obama's Trinity Unity Church.
Sure you can. :) Means I am doing something right. lol. nm
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It means something to me. Obviously not to you....
stop reading my posts if they aggravate you so much. It is a free country. No one is forcing your little mouse to click but you.
Well, that certainly means you are NOT
me his character. Show me one close friend in his past without a shady background, one he does not have to defend. Everyone who has touched his life and made any sort of impression on him has warped his character. Yet, no one who is enamored with him seems to care. They do not care that he stands for nothing, they cannot tell you what his plans for this country are or how he is going to accomplish them. And, they certainly do not want to listen to anything from his past.
Ah, that means you definitely know one or more
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maybe she means
congress???
no it means
that I don't wish to spend the time to indulge you
By all means...............sm
let me get that door for you.
It means......
Why didn't you run for election, YOU MIGHT HAVE BECOME THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, BECAUSE YOU SEEM TO BE ABLE TO EVEN TELL THE 44TH PRESIDENT-ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, BARACK OBAMA, WHAT TO DO.
I guess that when it comes to foreign policy you are in the la-la-land.
It means I won't lie....
But because "several in your town" exist, presumably, that doesn't make you an expert except for maybe in your own grandiose dreams.
Oh, by all means...
Let's jump on this bandwagon instead of discussing the train wreck that IS in the White House.
And, to be honest, this post does NOT deserve to be on the political board. It has nothing to do with politics, just the sore winner Dems continuing to skewer the loser. Palin LOST, people. Let it go.
What she means to say....(sm)
is that I am one of a handful of liberals left on this board. Most everyone else is a republican, so therefore anything I say on here is typically not understood, taken out of context, or simply replied to in terms of character assassination, like the post that I'm responding to now. Just look down the board and you'll see what I'm talking about.
russell means
Russell Means Visits Camp Casey II
Means Says He Understands Power Of Women
By Gene Ellis
ICONOCLAST REPORTER
CAMP CASEY II — Russell Means’ appearance on the stage at Camp Casey II in Crawford yesterday was a surprise to many. For background on this famous Indian (who eschews the government term “Native American”), see brief additional biographical information at the end of this story.
Means, a long-time activist, arrived in Central Texas to support the efforts of Cindy Sheehan and her Iraq war protestors. He well understands the power of women. He spoke, both on stage and in a later interview with the Iconoclast, of the matriarchal society of the American Indian.
Motherhood in America has an inkling of the meaning of this, Means mused, but the Indians live it.
He explained that in a family, the mother is the only member who cannot be replaced. Women live longer than men, can stand more pain, have more endurance, he said. At about this point, Means introduced his wife, Pearl, and received a hug from Joan Baez, who was sitting on the floor of the stage with Cindy Sheehan, listening to Means’ remarks.
Means said that America has a patriarchal society where men rule alone and in fear of the unknown because they are alone. Matriarchy, he pointed out, is not fear-based. In a matriarchal society, each sex is celebrated for its strengths, and there is local control, male/female balance.
During the later interview with the Iconoclast, Means made a point of saying that he is sincere about women taking control of their power, providing a balanced and positive culture. The Blue and Gold Star mothers have an innate understanding of matriarchy, according to Means, even though, as members of a patriarchal society, they have been brainwashed for many years.
In a matriarchal society, all must be responsible.
“If the government of this country imposes so many rules, we feel no responsibility for ourselves, and we become careless,” said Means. To illustrate his point, he used the example of the lack of traffic rules in Italy. Because there are no rules, each person must take it upon his or herself to be responsible, not to be careless, to ensure his or her own safety.
When asked to speak about military recruiters targeting low-income youths, including Indians, Means said that it follows the history of a patriarchal society that the poor kids are to be the common fodder. Even after the Civil War, when Americans wouldn’t join the military, European immigrants were pulled off boats and forced to do two years of subscripted service to obtain citizenship. The poor are always a target for military induction, Means concluded.
Means reiterated that if men rule alone in their citadels of power, they are fearful.
A libertarian, Means paraphrased George Washington, “Government is force, nothing more, nothing less.”
Means added to this his own thoughts, “This government is evil. How can patriots support a president over the Constitution? That is treason. The purpose of the first amendment is to encourage dissent. Without dissent, it is impossible to live free.”
His comments were reminiscent of Margaret Mead’s quote that has graced the back of many a tee shirt in Crawford over the last two weeks. It reads, “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.”
The Los Angeles Times has described Russell Means as the most famous American Indian since Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse.
Means is a life-long indigenous rights/constitutional rights activist, actor, artist, and author. His best selling autobiography “Where White Men Fear to Tread” is currently on its eighth printing. He has a doctorate in Indian Studies, and is also a practicing attorney on the Sioux Indian Reservation in South Dakota.
For more than 30 years, Means has remained active with the American Indian Movement and has traveled and lectured extensively throughout the world while working for over 12 years with the United Nations.
Means became the first national director of The American Indian Movement (AIM). He is known for helping lead his people to stand against the United States government at the Siege of Wounded Knee in 1973.
His vision is for indigenous people to be free — free to be human, free to travel, free to shop, free to trade where they choose, free to choose their own teachers — free to follow the religion of their fathers, free to talk, think and act for themselves, and then, says Means, they will obey every law or submit to the penalty.
About The Siege at Wounded Knee, he wrote, “Our aim at Wounded Knee was to force the U.S. government to live up to its own laws. From that, one can draw the real lesson of our stand there: It is the duty of every responsible American to ensure that their government upholds the spirit and the laws of the United States Constitution. After all, what freedom really means is that you are free to be responsible.”
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RUSSELL MEANS (right) gets a hug from singer Joan Baez at Camp Casey II on Saturday.
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Please enlighten me as to what it means.
Considering we will never leave Iraq if Bush plans on placing a permanent military base there.
Actually no, that isn't what Neocon means at all. sm
And I wasn't the one who wrote the things you are responding to, but here is a really good definition of Neocon and perhaps you can see why AG and I and others have stridently objected to being labeled Neocon in the past. Though I have some Neocon friends and I admire most of their beliefs, I am no Neocon. Neither, for that matter, is President Bush, who has been labeled a neocon ad nauseum on these boards.
From Chris Jones:
It would appear that you are unfamiliar with the history of the neo-conservative movement, a history which explains why some folks associate it with Jews and why the use of “neo-con” as a pejorative seems to some to smell of anti-Semitism.
The original “neo-conservatives” were a group of left-of-center intellectuals who became disillusioned with their liberal politics and became conservatives — mostly, but not exclusively, on foreign policy and national security issues. Many, but not all, of these intellectuals were Jewish, and the “center of gravity” of the nascent neo-conservative movement was Commentary magazine and its editors and writers. Prominent among the early neo-conservatives were Irving Kristol and Norman Podhoretz (who are Jewish) and Jeanne Kirkpatrick (who is (I think) a Gentile). Commentary magazine played the role in the neo-conservative movement that was played by National Review in the broader conservative intellectual movement of the 1960s and 1970s.
The contemporary conservative journalists Bill Kristol and John Podhoretz are the sons of the early neo-conservatives Irving Kristol and Norman Podhoretz.
The defining characteristic of neo-conservatism, properly so called, is a belief in a robustly activist foreign policy by people who were formerly left-of-center. The movement is associated with Jewish-ness because many of its early leading lights happened to be Jews; but Jewish-ness is accidental to the movement, not characteristic of it. To use “neo-con” as a sort of vaguely anti-Semitic slur is not only dishonorable, but a misuse of language. That doesn’t mean that it doesn’t happen, though.
Regardless, this means we kill them all?
It is their right to live the way they chose. We can't go attacking every one who is a possible threat on more levels than I'm going to go into here. I would rather see our leaders spend the time and money on securing things here rather than wage war there. We are just formulating more hatred. We CAN change whether we are the ones in the war by not going to war, and I shall not blindly trust our leaders to do the right thing because it has been proven time and again that they rarely do.
UM BEFORE YOU KNOW YOUR PREGNANT MEANS...
before you've missed a period! you totally contradicted yourself. i never said at the instant of sex you're pregnant. I said the heart is beating before "MOST" women know they are pregnant, and you JUST VALIDATED MY POINT!!! even going as far as to say they are developing at week 4! (which is when women miss their periods) you do know how this works don't you?
Never noticed that before. Not that it means anything of course.....
but it IS freaky. lol.
By all means....don't view it. You might actually have to really know...
what you support. Can't have that, can you?
Of course not. It just means she doesn't use it herself.
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Obviously means there is no documentation....
other than dailykos or huffpost (good book of the left).
Basically what that means is (sm)
that the Dems have a majority so the Repubs can fillibuster all they want to, but when it comes to the final vote, if every Dem votes yes and every Repub votes no, the yes vote goes through because there would be more yes votes. It's just that there are more Dems than Repubs - they have the majority vote, just not enough to stop a fillibuster.
What 'change' means to me:
1) A government that works FOR and WITH American citizens, not AGAINST them.
2) At least an ATTEMPT to balance the budget. With all this country has to offer, we should be coming out AHEAD each year, not borrowing money.
3) Elected officials doing what they were elected to do, not lining their own pockets at the expense of the country's CITIZENS.
4) American workers being valued enough to be offered jobs with a good living wage and benefits package, and incentives for performance. NOT forcing everyone to be part-time/OC/or to work for pennies on the dollars their work is really worth.
5) In this country business has the freedom to begin, and if lucky, to grow from small to big, to HUGE. That good fortune should come with more responsibility. Part of the reason they're so successful is that they're in America. Part of the rewards of that success should in turn go into improving the infrastructure of the towns, states, and country, and more importantly, the WORKERS who make it possible for them to do business at all.
6) Somewhere along the line, this country has forgotten that our constitutional right to 'freedom of religion' ALSO means 'freedom FROM religion', for those of us who don't want it continually shoved down our throats. And it most definitely does NOT belong in the government. It belongs in the hearts & homes of its believers, and in church. NOT in the White House.
7) Change means not selling this country lock, stock and barrel to every country with lots of money to spend. It means not selling your soul or stomping & squashing the 'little guy' for the almighty buck.
8) Change means bringing some hope back to America again. Right now, and for the past 8 years, I personally have had no hope. I've watched my wages shrivel, as the expectations of how much work Im expected to produce per hour continues to go up. I've watched my rent grow, and the square footage of the apartments/studios I've rented go down and down. I've watched my car grow old before its time because I have no money to take care of it. I've had to do without seeing family members because there's nothing left over at the end of each month to afford to travel even a couple hundred miles. I have NO hope of ever seeing my family in Europe again. Unless there's a huge turnaround in the country & our economy, my flying days are OVER.
9) Change means taking care of our soldiers. If you're going to send them into harm's way, as we've done with so many these past years, then by golly, TAKE CARE OF THEM when they come home again. American soldiers should be:
a) Paid what they're worth, so their families don't starve while they're serving.
b) Not be lied to about when their tours of duty end.
c) They should be sent to war with the FINEST of equipment, not decrepit old stuff that's breaking down and risking their lives. And the fact that some have no bullet-proof vests, and their family ends up having to supply one for them, is a national disgrace. They should have the best of everything, not the worst.
d) When they're injured, they should get the BEST medical care, not what they're currently getting. Their benefits should take care of them and their families comfortably, not leave them in poverty.
10) And finally, change means taking care of our SENIOR CITIZENS. Most have worked hard all their lives, and too many are living in poverty. We boomers are in for a shock, 'cause lots of us will NEVER retire. We'll be working 2 jobs to make ends meet because our SS (IF we even get any) won't even pay for our gas each month. If we are going to be more and more resonsible for our own retirement, then we should be paid a wage that actually allows us to fund our IRA's each month, and not watch them languish, ignored & unfunded, as I've been doing for the last 10 years because my job now only pays enough to keep a roof over my head TODAY. But TOMORROW? The way things have been going the last 8 years, I find it harder and harder to even believe there will BE a tomorrow. When this place gets too expensive to rent, the next roof over my head will most likely be my CAR.
So the biggest CHANGE I'd like to see in this country is an administration that sees the big picture, sees how REAL Americans have to scrape by, and not just how things are up on Capitol Hill.
sm means see message, nm means no message
The other names you mentioned are of course people posting on this board. There are a billion names you can use. Some use their first name, some use their initials, some use nicknames and some who don't want to type a message inside will split the response and put part in the subject and the other part in the name. Use whatever name you want to. What's the problem with that?
means he went on vacation ...
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Oh yeah by all means
let's not give health care to those who are fat, smoke or whatever. News bulletin, I smoke, I'm overweight and I don't exercise. I'm also 65 years old and probably as healthy as you are. By all means let's weight people at the door of grocery stores to see if they're too fat to eat and ring a bell every morning at 7 a.m. and let everyone start doing pushups and for sure let's everyone quit smoking which people have been doing for hundreds of years and see if health costs go down. They won't.
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