Your facts are totally messed up
Posted By: Teddy on 2007-01-31
In Reply to: Good grief.... - Observer
You say we take care of our own poor? I can find NO statistics to agree with your statements below.
Lack of care of our country's poor? We have more social programs for the poor than any other nation on earth. Not only do we take care of our own poor, we try to take care of the poor in all over the world as well. I hardly call that immoral. If you think more needs to be done, take some homeless into your house. Open a soup kitchen. Hand out birth control to the third generation welfare families. Give a job, not just a check. Lobby for THAT in Washington. Carry signs for THAT.
In 2001 the poverty rate for minors in the United States was the highest in the industrialized world with 14.8% of minors, 30% of African American minors, living below the poverty treshold. Additionally the standard of living for those in bottom 10% was lower in the US than in any other developed nation, except the United Kingdom which had the lowest standard of living for impoverished children.[6]
One of the most disturbing and extraordinary aspects of life in this very wealthy country is the persistence of hunger. The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) reported that in 2005:
- 35.1 million people lived in households considered to be food insecure.
- Of those 35.1 million, 22.7 million are adults (10.4 percent of all adults) and 12.4 million are children (16.9 percent of all children).
- The number of people in the worst-off households (previously called “food insecure with hunger” and now called “very low food security” households) rose in 2005, from 10.7 to 10.8 million.
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What is really messed up is that
they added more money to the cost of cigarettes to help pay for that child healthcare thing Obama signed, which I'm not sure will pay for it all, and now they want to encourage people to smoke? So is smoking is paying for child healthcare, why are you encouraging them to quit smoking. Who will pay for the child healthcare then?
Your history is messed up
Look what I found in a book about the Democratic party:
The Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s, championed by the party despite opposition at the time from its Southern wing, has continued to inspire the party's liberal principles.
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There are also multiple chapters as well as multiple books written about the metamorphosis of BOTH parties since their inception. See, sometimes books really can be a good thing!!! By the way, do you get your historical information from the chronic-liars-library or something? Cuz it surely seems like it.
Religious Right has already messed up too much in this
and the rest of the misguided 'faithful' to step out of the picture so that our leaders can actually do their jobs, without all the holy rollers tripping them up.
Yeah, they messed it up...(sm)
but I think that was because of no oversight and deregulation.---the hallmark of the Bush administration.
Format on above post is messed up.
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Sheesh! I messed up my own joke!
I wrote: I said, "Well, let's see: "Algia" means pain. "Ceph" means pain, so pain in the head -- HEADACHE!"
Obviously, "ceph" means HEAD!
I just got out of the hospital (again for pancreatitis), and I believe MY "ceph" was left behind when I was typing my post.
Good thing I don't own a gun or I'd probably shoot myself in the foot. LOL.
Justice Roberts messed it up, Obama knew that. sm
He could not repeat it as Roberts stated it because it was wrong. He correctly paused in order to give Justice Roberts the opportunity to state it correctly so that he (Obama) could repeat the oath correctly.
Facts are facts - sorry you don't like it cos it doesn't support your candidate
You can't change facts. That's what makes them facts. You may not like it but that's the way it is.
Facts are facts. No bash intended.
It will be this stellar record from which voters will be assessing her and her running mate.
If you're offended, too bad. Facts are facts...
I know Muslims in this country who have turned from the hateful evil beliefs that were forced down their throats. They did not have the freedom to learn anything else growing up. But after they gained their freedom and came here, they were able to receive the Word of God and they have told me that NEVER were they taught anything about loving others, just other Muslims, and that the God they learned about spoke of nothing but killing and hate... so if Obama is receiving large donations from those middle eastern countries, as you say, and he is grounded in Muslim culture, being taught this in school for years as a child, do you honestly think he doesn't carry some of those beliefs with him? He's never denounced it.
Here ya go.........
http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm
stating facts folks, just the facts....if it's getting
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Folks want facts, you give'm facts and still
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This poster wants facts, facts, facts...
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Poster wants facts, facts, facts.....
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Wow, my post was totally and completely respectful and yours is totally and completely not. sm
what a surprise. Can't stand to be corrected or proven wrong, can you. Have to call everyone a liar, don't you. Got to tell people to stick things somewhere, don't you. TSK TSK TSK Anger management might be helpful.
When you can't fight facts for facts
then it's buh-bye....well buh-bye to you too....I'll have a dicussion with someone who will discuss and not blame.
When you can't fight facts for facts then it's buh-bye.
Facts, stick to the facts...sm
The subject here is the media and their treatment of Gov. Palin, which continues to this day, to this minute, by the liberal left.
Tthe media threw down their gauntlet as soon as she was picked on that Friday, and hounded her for almost a full week.
And you think she should have waved a white flag at them in her acceptance speech? She put them on notice, that she is above them. And continues to be, with grace and style.
She's not whining, and neither are we.
I just shake my head at your audacity.
The media is the one that started this with her, and you would do well to remember the facts in her case.
IN this case, the facts are the facts.........
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I am being totally serious. What would
I did not ask what you wouldn't believe. I am not being facetious or trying to set up an attack. I am genuinely curious what it would take for those that protest eligibility to hold office on this basis to change their minds.
Let's say Obama produces his birth certificate for verification. Who would have to attest to its validity for you to really, truly believe it?
no he is not hot and I think its totally sm
inappropriate to publish something like this on a magazine cover! He is the president of the United States not some wanna-be Hollywood star...(or is he?)
This is absolutely ridiculous. Sure wish they would put on a cover something he is doing for this country that is positive...but I guess this is as positive as it gets huh? Sickening
And I totally get that.
I understand your point of view and I respect that. Yet you are one of the few feminists who has come out and said that these vicious attacks are uncalled for. Whether or not you agree with someone or not, I just thought feminists were supposed to stick up for their fellow women. I'm just not seeing that out of a majority of feminists. In fact, the ones I have seen are joining in with the personal attacks.
yes, it is, but not totally.......it is about
creation versus evolution and all the discrepancies mentioned in the bible.
For instance: Who was Maria
Magdalene? What role did she play in Jesus's life?
totally agree with you sm
You are correct on all counts. And I do agree that Bush lied to the American people to further his agenda as a warlord. It was not about bringing democracy to Iraq. It was about domination of the oil market in Iraq. Bush and his henchmen are making millions out of this deal, while killing our soldiers and causing more tension in the world. It's the same thing his father tried to do in 1992.
It's all about greed and money.
I wonder if a president can be impeached for lying to the American public to procure his own agenda. If so, I hope it happens.
Totally agree.
I totally agree that Sadam had to be taken down, kudos to the president. What gets me is that Sadam had nothing to do with 911, and this adminstration still thinks that people are not smart enough to READ and figure that out. Yes kudos to President Bush and his daddy for taking Sadam down he needed it; but thousands are dead because of his personal agenda - see ya in church Sunday, Dubya.
This post is totally out there
This post is totally wrong. I am reporting you to the administrator. How dare you post something like this. HOW DARE YOU.
LOL.....totally clueless. So, gt.....sm
It only matters to you if a Republican's ancient ancestor was in cahoots with Hitler. But Democrats can skate, right? Right! Gotcha!
I totally agree!!!!
This woman gave the ultimate sacrifice, and to me, the opinions of people like her hold more weight than almost anyone's. She has my admiration and respect.
I totally agree! NM
That is like, so totally lame. nm
You are totally twisting what the OP said.
They said, and I agree, that there is a difference between the people looting for food, water and bare necessities than those who are looting for guns, purses, and accessories. No one is promoting people who are stealing guns and harming people.
Take it at face value, and leave the spin for the conservative board.
I agree totally
I feel sorry for the the kids, but I also don't think throwing money at the parents is the answer. I've had an example of a deadbeats in my family who get a check, but the money hardly ever benefits the children. They pocket it and spend it on their selfish desires. To help kids the best thing to do for them is free school lunches and WIC. Food stamps can be traded for drugs and sold for cash. I'm glad to see most states are going to the debit card system with no cash back ability, however, I'm sure the scammers will somehow find a way around that too eventually. I think putting the money directly to what benefits the children is better than a check.
I totally agree. It's at the very top
of my list, as well. More importantly, I certainly hope it's at the top of Harriet Miers' list.
I can't believe you mentioned the Groene children!! I just talked with my daughter about that very case not five minutes ago, and I brought up Bill O'Reilly's campaign regarding this issue to her.
I don't care for Bill O'Reilly, but I do applaud his efforts in changing the sentencing, going from state to state and exposing judges who give out these ridiculous sentences. These people deserve life or worse.
I totally agree!
And when contraceptives are outlawed, as well, there will be more pregnancies than ever!
I totally agree.
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Yup; totally agree with you.
This is totally wacho...sm
To even put this idea together is wacho much less to make a Christmas greeting out of it. These people are so possesed by politics that they are willing to use Christ to get it.
Shaking my head in disgust. Pathetic.
I totally agree, but I
just wonder how true this really is. If a 4-year-old is navigating around on a computer and answering POLL questions, how interested is this 4-year-old going to be in BARBIE? Shouldn't she be studying for high school finals?
To me, that's totally understandable.
If anyone hurt any of my children, I'm not sure what I would do. If people can't count on the system to do its job, in my opinion, I don't blame them for taking the law into their own hands, and I believe they're justified.
I just wonder what a jury would do to such a parent. As messed up as the judicial system is, I could see the parent thrown in jail while all the other abusers run free. 
Totally agree!
Too bad you right wing whack jobs are selling it off to the highest bidder.
I totally agree.
Very well said. 
I agree totally. sm
And that's why I got banned. Go figure.
I totally agree. sm
And I don't believe I have ever asked those questions of any administration.
Also totally agree - sm
The bigger/biggest danger that our country faces is from those who opine without being informed.
I totally agree. nm
I totally agree - she really went over the top!!!...NM
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TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU
NO DEMOCRAT in the white house!!
I totally agree!
I'm not an Obama fan but I just don't think I would want the support of such a racist person as Jesse Jackson especially since he wants to castarate him. Sheesh. Wouldn't it have been a hoot if Obama had put Jackson in his place. I sure wish someone would and maybe he would shut up for once. Activist my rear end....he is just a man out to make himself heard no matter what crap comes out of his mouth.
I truly don't know how Jackson could say he supports Obama but then say what he did. That isn't support.
I totally agree. nm
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Totally agree on that one
It isn't my business who politicians screw behind closed doors. I couldn't care less really. Does Edwards having an affair make my life miserable? No. However, I must agree that if that information does come out and they lie about it.....that does show me what kind of person they are. Instead of admitting their mistakes and saying sorry.....they lie about it and make things worse........that is what I don't like.
Just like Billy Boy....I couldn't care less if he stuck a cigar up Monica's yahoo, but why lie? He could say no comment or tell us it is none of our business but to lie....different story.
I guess my biggest annoyance is the media because they thrive on finding out trash like this about people and exposing it for the world to see. I just find it really sad that I looked at my TV last night and saw the words "BREAKING NEWS" and it was about Edwards having an affair. Sorry....but that, IMO, shouldn't be BREAKING NEWS.
Totally agree with you too.
Right on - I would say I blame the media more than Edwards. I sit here yelling at my TV "This is NOT breaking news. The war in Georgia is breaking news, Iraq is breaking news, not this". Also that missing girl in Texas is not breaking news. They keep flashing it - breaking news, girl in Texas missing. Well she's been missing and I'm really sorry about that but that's not breaking news and if they are giving this story that much attention is she the only missing girl in America? My understanding is hundred and hundreds of kids in America are missing/abducted or whatever. So why don't they all get equal air time? Now...finding her alive or finding her body or finding the killer would be breaking news. But then again not from morning til night and never giving us any news about the what's happening in the war and stuff that is affecting us financially.
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