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continued...save lives????

Posted By: Democrat on 2005-08-05
In Reply to: Stem Cells - I can't think of one reason why they should throw the extra cells away, rather than sav - Democrat

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    Not revenge!-to save innocent lives from MORE
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    continued

    Same with Clinton versus Bush.  Clinton is a great, great man.  He is a flawed human being, but I know he has the country's best interests at heart.  By examining his life, it is obvious he is honored to serve our country.  Bush has been a loser all his life.  His business failures, his military "service," his drug use.  He had only had his over-inflated ego in mind when he stepped up and claimed that he was told by God to be president.  He has stayed in his little rich family cocoon all his life and has no interest in the lives of those less fortunate.  Time will prove that he did not gain the presidency due to any ability, but just that he was just a malleable dupe snagged by the neocons to fulfill their plans.


     


    Continued (hit enter too soon)

    There isn't one person on this entire board who has wished anyone to be killed, especially an MP.


    For you to suggest that someone got their wish is inflammatory, irresponsible and an outright LIE (not that that's a new communication technique used by you people).


    As far as looting, anybody who steals a plasma TV, computer, etc., should be considered criminal and should be stopped in whatever way is necessary.


    I just wonder what YOU would do if you had children and were in a situation where you had no water, no electricity, no food, nowhere to sleep for DAYS ON END.  Would you go into a Walmart and take some water, baby formula, food -- whatever it takes so that you CAN STAY ALIVE?  I've never been in a position like that, but I can pretty much guarantee that if I were, I'd do whatever I had to do to feed my children and keep them safe from harm.  If that included taking items from a store (that nobody was ever going to buy anyway), then you'd better believe I'd do it.


    You sound very much like the person I heard in the store the other day, who said that she's let her kids FREEZE TO DEATH before accepting any help from Chavez.


    Guess it's easy to see who has the family values in this crowd.


    You're a disgrace.


    Charts continued...lol (sm)
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    No, what is offensive and vulgur is your continued
    moaning and harping and complaining.  Lighten up.  What we need is for you people to give something a little bit of a chance before you drown everything and everybody with your doom and gloom predictions.  I was merely suggesting something more constructive!
    Fed reports economy continued to deteriorate

    Gee, I'd been wondering why we were paying the big bucks to these Fed officials and now I know.  So they can tell us things we could have told them (for a lot less money, too).


    Perhaps we should call the Fed "MOOSE"  (the Ministry For Obvious Official Statements on the Economy)?  You can see now why we needed Palin, who knows how to field dress a moose.


    ...and then there was Obama the other day telling Congress not to spend too much money.  In case you didn't catch what I just said, this was Mr. Super-Deficit Obama, telling Congress they should watch the spending. 


    I think that the White House has been listening to the national backlash on Daddy MoreBucks' drunken spending spree, and wants to have something they can float during Obama's next campaign to show how fiscally responsible he is. Certainly, there's no connection between what he says and what he does. 


    But wait - we're already seeing Obama's next campaign, aren't we?  The man never stops campaigning.


     


    Your continued refusal to answer the question is very telling.

    Why would I ask a Jewish person if he or she were allowed to go to heaven according to someone's Christian beliefs?  Wouldn't that be silly?  And you're right.  It has nothing to do with whether Jews go to heaven.  But it has everything to do with whether you go to heaven or not, right?  Is your undying, unquestioning loyalty to Israel because you love Jews who will never be good enough to go to heaven according to your religion, or is because of the real estate the Jews inhabit in Israel?


    You yourself wrote:  Then there is no Biblical alternative to supporting Israel and the Jewish people.


    One more time:  DO JEWS GO TO HEAVEN?


    If you again refuse to answer that, then my next question is where in the Bible does it say that said hypocrisy and disingenuousness are next to Godliness?


    You also wrote:  If you are truly, then, a nonbeliever, it explains much of what I am seeing here.


    And:  Are you all nonbelievers here?


    How can you square that with your claim that you haven't judged anyone? 


    I also think it has to do with what they have done in their lives...
    Michelle has, through her career, spoken in public many times, and in her profession I am sure speaks before groups, boards, etc. She was also very active in the primary season. She is no stranger to public speaking.

    Cindy McCain has been a doer, not a talker, as far as her humanitarian stuff. THat is not to imply that Michelle Obama has not done anything...just that Cindy McCain is not one of those people comfortable in the spotlight. And different personalities...I think Michelle Obama is definitely type A...what energy!

    Thank God for the lives that were
    into the Hudson River! Everyone that I have seen interviewed have said something to the effect that they were praying during that ordeal.

    *As an athiest, I can assure you that I am not looking to fill a vacancy. I belive in the human race -- the drive, will, and instinct that drive any species to success* I doubt seriously that any of them will be talking about believing in the human race any time soon!
    empty lives.

    Bleak winter months.  No interests.  Can this explain it?  The criticisms seem so weak and lacking in any real conviction.  Is it merely failure to accept the inevitable?  The years of carping from the right have ended.  Perhaps lack of adaptability?  Does not bode well according to Darwinism. Fade away, fade away, fade away..


     


    The people there are risking their lives
    Of course, not as much as the troops, but there are attempts, shootings, bombs, threats, etc.

    I never said that the troops should just do their jobs. I worked along side military members from every branch of service. But, if you choose to be in the military, you have a lot more to worry about than some people protesting.

    People have been protesting the military for several years now (all of my life-time and then some), and it is not going to change. Do I agree with all protesting? No. But, as long as they are obeying the law, they are within their rights.




    Very sad. Our soldiers are giving their lives....sm
    and they are coming home severly injured to less than adequate medical care after excellent care in the field, no psychological counseling, no support for their families, deplorable living conditions, and on and on. I believe this war is wrong but support the troops 100%. Disgraceful!
    Amanda has really summed up most of our lives and

    it is scary.  I wonder how many transcription companies will close their doors within the next year.  The top 3 transcription companies may be all that are left before long.


    Tell that to the people who lives in areas like
    x
    Will Days of Our Lives be on tomorrow?
    x
    He's set and his family is set for the rest of their lives
    Why should he care about us. He just plain doesn't and it's coming out every day.

    Punish the hard working, honest people.
    Politicians and their love lives
    aren't really important to me.  This guy didn't lie under oath about his affair.  Clinton did but I still really don't care.  There peckers and/or cigars aren't my concern.  I'm more concerned about how our country is being run and the money being spent, etc.  Affairs are things that happen too often.  I don't condone that type of behavior but they will have to pay the consequences for their actions.  More important issues to discuss than this.
    So, when do all the groupies renounce their worldly lives...
    and start selling flowers at the airport?
    YIPES the rabid cons are taking over..Run for your lives
    Liberals..YIPES..run for your life..this board has been taken over by rabid conservatives..I decided the other day not to read the posts from the conservatives who have the nerve to come over here and start trouble..Their posts are like fungus, they just keep multiplying. 
    Pubs can't stay on task if their lives depended on it.
    Americans don't elect issues wimps.
    Obama lives in a fantasy land of his own making.
    Unfortunately, he is also a gifted speaker and is leading many people down the yellow brick road to a magical make believe land. Too bad Obama can't see the big picture of anything.
    sorry - the man is not a pollworker - is a poll watcher and lives in the building - nm
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    yeah, but i turned on the TV to watch Days of Our Lives
    and everyone watching that channel was doing so to watch Days of Our Lives. If we wanted to watch news, we would turn to news channels.
    People who want less gov't interference in their lives (CONSERVATIVES) are being labeled..sm
    Those who attend the Tea Parties are being labeled "right wing extremists." As an organizer of a Tea Party in my town, I am going to wear that label with pride. Below is the quote from the Dept. of Homeland Security:

    On the eve of the nationwide tax day Tea Parties, Barack Obama's DHS has issued a "rightwing" threat assessment to warn of the "current economic and political climate fueling resurgence in radicalization and recruitment" for "rightwing extremism." Who are these extremists? According to the report, adherants are rimarily "hate-oriented" or "antigovernment" but also include "individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."

    Personally, I think it is more than quite a coincidence that Obama's DHS is warning of the "rightwing" threat on the eve of the Tea Parties! This is a blatant attempt to taint the efforts of those who are standing for a patriotic, idea-based resistance.

    Anything or anyone who does not toe the Obamarama line or has not drunk the kook-aid, is automatically considered a "right wing extremist."

    There is a 10 page document put out by an office which is a branch of the Dept Homeland Security called "The Extremism and Radicalization Branch, Homeland Environment Threat Analysis Division. Coordinated with the FBI.

    There are 4 words that should make you very nervous....COORDINATED WITH THE FBI. Below is the link to download or read the PDF file.

    http://api.ning.com/files/UNNlkOVukw8cXztJc4bDEq2ztrm9owekwvHofmLwYgxLlpwX8*h1av8amHehbYkmt3Qvxny16Gh1ob8gFYeRrw2HVq-joU7Y/hsarightwingextremism0904071.pdf

    Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Remember,Rome decayed from within.

    Ok, off my soapbox.

    Big Brother is I believe a covert force infiltrating each and every one's personal lives without
    their knowledge. That is hardly the same thing as a poster on an MT board noticing that 4 different names post the same thing. I think that is creepy.  I have been on this board for a long time and I recognize patterns, phrases that are repeated verbatim from far in the past, things people remember about me and say something like ***weren't you the one who ....*** and it is posted under a name different from the original. I leave Big Brother to our shadow government, wherever they are.
    grrr...obama and bush interruped Days of Our Lives nm
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    People wanting less gov't interference in their lives (CONSERVATIVES) are being labeled......sm
    Those who attend the Tea Parties are being labeled "right wing extremists." As an organizer of a Tea Party in my town, I am going to wear that label with pride. Below is the quote from the Dept. of Homeland Security:

    On the eve of the nationwide tax day Tea Parties, Barack Obama's DHS has issued a "rightwing" threat assessment to warn of the "current economic and political climate fueling resurgence in radicalization and recruitment" for "rightwing extremism." Who are these extremists? According to the report, adherants are rimarily "hate-oriented" or "antigovernment" but also include "individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."

    Personally, I think it is more than quite a coincidence that Obama's DHS is warning of the "rightwing" threat on the eve of the Tea Parties! This is a blatant attempt to taint the efforts of those who are standing for the patriotic, idea-based resistance.

    Anything or anyone who does not toe the Obamarama line or has not drunk the kook-aid, is automatically considered a "right wing extremist."

    There is a 10 page document put out by an office which is a branch of the Dept Homeland Security called "The Extremism and Radicalization Branch, Homeland Environment Threat Analysis Division. Coordinated with the FBI.

    There are 4 words that should make you very nervous....COORDINATED WITH THE FBI. Below is the link to download or read the PDF file.

    http://api.ning.com/files/UNNlkOVukw8cXztJc4bDEq2ztrm9owekwvHofmLwYgxLlpwX8*h1av8amHehbYkmt3Qvxny16Gh1ob8gFYeRrw2HVq-joU7Y/hsarightwingextremism0904071.pdf

    Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Remember,Rome decayed from within.

    Ok, off my soapbox.


    Save Lewis sm

    This is crazy.


    http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20060523153709990005&ncid=NWS00010000000001


     


    Thanks - probably will save the sanity that way
    I have not yet once in a few months now found any of the O worshippers to have a rational connversation. Well some of them I have had a good conversation with, so don't want to lump them all in one group, but for the most part it's like you say....talking to a brick wall. So going to shut down for a few days and will be watching the news about the hearings. I just hope and pray that justice will be served, and I'd like an explanation from the O as to why he commited fraud knowingly and duped half (maybe now less than half because some of them are coming out) the country. Then it will be interesting to see if ol HRC files a lawsuit against him.
    ssh...they might come back. there is no one over there to save!
    Lets talk about who is going to be the new treasury secretary. I like volker. I would like to see the interest rate on my savings account go back up to 13%!
    "YOUR CAN SAVE US"??? what does that mean?
    I feel like you are going to stalk me. 
    Save some Tums for yourself. You will need more
    nm
    Save the pity for

    ALL who will need it in the next four years.   That would be everyone who feels duped for having voted Obama in.  Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it. 


    In the words of Yogi Berra:  'It ain't over till it's over.'  There will be another election in four years.  


    We gave Carter - the 1-term wonder - a chance and he wrecked the economy.  Reagan fixed the economy (with tax cuts) and bankrupted the USSR out of the arms race.  There could be no more stark example of socialism vs free-market economics. 


    Just to save some dim bulb

    the trouble, let me be the first to accuse you of being a racist, a paranoid, a nasty, hateful person (did I miss anything?) for bringing up all these facts about the president and the party who only have your best interests in mind. How dare you say these things when our brave president is trying his very best to fill your gas tank and pay your mortgage.  You should be ashamed. 


    See?  Now nobody else has to break a sweat typing furiously to put you in your place.  I'm sure we all feel much better now.


    He only did this to save his own butt.
    nm
    Of course they don't..... they think Obama is here to save
    -
    God save us from your source of accuracy. nm

    She's trying to save us from our evil ways
    :o)
    Bush tries to save some face --

    It looks like our wonderful govt is thinking about another stimulus -- remember those tax rebates we got back in the spring of this year? It was $600 an individual and $1200 a couple.  The govt doesn't want to do quite the same kind of stimulus as last time because -- get this -- 80% of the Americans who received it used it to either pay down debt or bolster savings.  Here's what they want the new stimulus to do:


    •The extension of unemployment benefits and possibly food stamps from 39 to 52 weeks.


    •A boost in infrastructure spending, despite the problems of getting the money to work quickly.


    •Some relief for state and local governments facing tighter budgets because of lower tax receipts and rising Medicaid costs.


    God forbid we give something to the middle class -- let's extend the food stamps and boost the "infrastructure spending" -- what is that anyway?  I'm guessing it's a way to line the pockets of the suits even more.  When is it going to end?


    if you are determined to save all children
    You have a moral obligation to end this war and to bring them home, and as veterans you have a moral obligation to financially support and care for them and their children for the rest of their lives.
    The BF sounds brainwashed. Tell him to save
    Religion (or lack of) is a personal choice, and he shouldn't be trying to force his beliefs on you or anyone else.
    How can she save so much money with 6 childen? ..nm
    nm
    Save your breath. People that believe
    worldnutdaily are not the type of folks who trust reputable sources.
    What Government must do to save capitalism

    What government must do to save capitalism





    Special to Globe and Mail Update




    From time to time in human history, there occur events of seismic significance, when one orthodoxy is overthrown and another takes its place. Today, the scale of the global financial crisis demands that we re-evaluate the economic policy and philosophy that brought us to this point.


    George Soros has said that "the salient feature of the current financial crisis is that it was not caused by some external shock. ... The crisis was generated by the system itself." He is right. The current crisis is the culmination of a 30-year domination of economic policy by a free-market ideology that has been variously called neo-liberalism, economic liberalism or economic fundamentalism. The central thrust of this ideology has been that government activity should be constrained, and ultimately replaced, by market forces. In the past year, we have seen how unchecked market forces have brought capitalism to the precipice.


    Instead of distributing risk throughout the world, the global financial system has intensified it. Neo-liberal orthodoxy held that global financial markets would ultimately self-correct - the invisible hand of unfettered market forces finding their own equilibrium. But as economist Joseph Stiglitz has caustically observed: "The reason that the invisible hand often seems invisible is that it is not there."


    Just as it fell to Franklin Roosevelt to rebuild American capitalism after the Depression, and to the American Democrats, strongly influenced by John Maynard Keynes, to rebuild postwar domestic demand, to engineer the Marshall Plan to rebuild Europe and to set in place the Bretton Woods system to govern international economic engagement, so it falls to a new generation to reflect on and rebuild our national and international economic systems.



    If centrist governments are to save capitalism, they must face three challenges. First is to use the agency of the state to reconstitute properly regulated markets and to rebuild domestic and global demand. With the demise of neo-liberalism, the role of the state has once more been recognized as fundamental. The state has been the primary actor in responding to three clear areas of the current crisis: in rescuing the private financial system from collapse; in providing direct stimulus to the real economy because of the collapse in private demand; and in the design of a national and global regulatory regime in which government has ultimate responsibility to determine and enforce the rules of the system.


    The second challenge for social democrats is not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. As the global financial crisis unfolds and the hard impact on jobs is felt by families across the world, the pressure will be great to retreat to some model of an all-providing state and to abandon altogether the cause of open, competitive markets both at home and abroad. Protectionism has already begun to make itself felt, albeit in softer and more subtle forms than the crudity of the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act of 1930. Soft or hard, protectionism is a surefire way of turning recession into depression, as it exacerbates the collapse in global demand. Social democracy's continuing philosophical claim to political legitimacy is its capacity to balance the private and the public, profit and wages, the market and the state. That philosophy once again speaks with clarity and cogency to the challenges of our time.


    A further challenge for governments in dealing with the current crisis is its almost unprecedented global dimensions. Governments must craft consistent global financial regulations to prevent a race to the bottom, where capital leaks out to the areas of the global economy with the weakest regulation. We must establish stronger global disclosure standards for systemically important financial institutions. We must also build stronger supervisory frameworks to provide incentives for more responsible corporate conduct, including executive remuneration.


    The world has turned to co-ordinated governmental action through the Group of 20: to help provide immediate liquidity to the global financial system; to co-ordinate sufficient fiscal stimulus to respond to the growth gap arising from the global recession; to redesign global regulatory rules for the future; to reform the existing global public institutions - especially the International Monetary Fund - to provide them with the powers and resources necessary for the demands of the 21st century.


    The IMF's governance arrangements must be reformed. It is only reasonable that, if we expect fast-growing developing economies such as that of China to make a greater contribution to multilateral institutions such as the IMF, they should also gain a stronger decision-making voice in these forums.


    The longer-term challenge for governments is to address the imbalances that have helped to destabilize the global economy in the past decade: in particular, the imbalances between large surplus economies such as that of China, Japan and the oil-exporting nations, and large debtor nations such as America.


    The magnitude of the crisis and its impact across the world means that minor tweakings of long-established orthodoxies will not do. Two unassailable truths have already been established: that financial markets are not always self-correcting or self-regulating, and that government can never abdicate responsibility for maintaining economic stability.


    For governments, it is critical that we get it right - not just to save the system of open markets from self-destruction, but also to rebuild confidence in properly regulated markets, so as to prevent extreme reactions from the far left or the far right taking hold.


    Governments must get it right because the stakes are so high: There are the economic and social costs of long-term unemployment; poverty once again expanding its grim reach across the developing world; and the impact on long-term power structures within the existing international political and strategic order. Success is not optional. Too much now rides on our ability to prevail.


    I consider him a traitor and just out to save his own butt

    He figures he can win on the Dem ticket because PA has turned Dem. Well, I have news for him.....I doubt it. He only won by a couple votes in the last election because of Pat Toomey running against him. He will definitely lose this election.


    I always split my ticket and I usually voted for him, but no more. I don't care what party anyone is affiliated with; but, to me, he is a traitor and that's someone else who is not needed in the Senate.


    To those who vote straight party, open your eyes. They are only out for themselves (but is that really news to anyone?)


    As posters have said before, we have to educate the people who don't watch/investigate/read up on the candidates running to make sure we vote the best candidates for the job...those who value the constitution, listen to their constituents (which is hard), and vote for the good of the country. Get rid of the a-holes who are in there. We really need to clean house this coming election.,


    Can you demonstrate that this will save people?
    As far as I know there is absolutely no proof of this whatsoever. It would surely be the "holy grail" of the universal healthcare proponents' argument if they could offer such proof. So far, they haven't been able to show that it saves a single life.
    I defend anyone who tried to save thousands of
    nm
    $3 M to save turtles????? Oh yes, it's true! sm
    Here's the link:
    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-stimulus16-2009jun16,0,7085006.story
    Again...if this is a liberal trait then God save us from liberals...
    that is taken from the actual court filing. I did NOT say it was my original thinking...hellooo get a grip!! It is from the original court filing...CBS, NBC, CNN, the whole lot of them filed a suit in court trying to stop Fitzgerald from making the reporters reveal their sources. It has nothing to do with neocon or whatever other smoke screen you want to throw up. Go ahead and attack me if you like, that does not change the truth, and any rational human being can see that. You make no point at all in this ridiculous rant.

    Let me get this straight...a brief to the US District Count is a right wing rag, but CBS is the sterling banner of truth? Typical pile on attack liberal tactics. Just admit it. You know they are lying, you just don't care.
    God save us from well-meaning people as my mother
    .
    save it - I do not read your posts anymore
    I can tell you I have made a decision based on this board of who I will be voting for...