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Your continued refusal to answer the question is very telling.

Posted By: Liberal on 2006-08-29
In Reply to: I have judged no one! - Mary

Why would I ask a Jewish person if he or she were allowed to go to heaven according to someone's Christian beliefs?  Wouldn't that be silly?  And you're right.  It has nothing to do with whether Jews go to heaven.  But it has everything to do with whether you go to heaven or not, right?  Is your undying, unquestioning loyalty to Israel because you love Jews who will never be good enough to go to heaven according to your religion, or is because of the real estate the Jews inhabit in Israel?


You yourself wrote:  Then there is no Biblical alternative to supporting Israel and the Jewish people.


One more time:  DO JEWS GO TO HEAVEN?


If you again refuse to answer that, then my next question is where in the Bible does it say that said hypocrisy and disingenuousness are next to Godliness?


You also wrote:  If you are truly, then, a nonbeliever, it explains much of what I am seeing here.


And:  Are you all nonbelievers here?


How can you square that with your claim that you haven't judged anyone? 




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That's funny, a refusal to comment is an end to a discussion as far as I know.
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This could explain the refusal of some to acknowledge global warming.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-endtimes22jun22,0,7902314.story?page=3&coll=la-home-headlines


'End Times' Religious Groups Want Apocalypse Soon


'End times' religious groups want apocalypse sooner than later, and they're relying on high tech -- and red heifers -- to hasten its arrival.


By Louis Sahagun, Times Staff Writer
June 22, 2006


For thousands of years, prophets have predicted the end of the world. Today, various religious groups, using the latest technology, are trying to hasten it.

Their endgame is to speed the promised arrival of a messiah.


For some Christians this means laying the groundwork for Armageddon.

With that goal in mind, mega-church pastors recently met in Inglewood to polish strategies for using global communications and aircraft to transport missionaries to fulfill the Great Commission: to make every person on Earth aware of Jesus' message. Doing so, they believe, will bring about the end, perhaps within two decades.

In Iran, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has a far different vision. As mayor of Tehran in 2004, he spent millions on improvements to make the city more welcoming for the return of a Muslim messiah known as the Mahdi, according to a recent report by the American Foreign Policy Center, a nonpartisan think tank.

To the majority of Shiites, the Mahdi was the last of the prophet Muhammad's true heirs, his 12 righteous descendants chosen by God to lead the faithful.

Ahmadinejad hopes to welcome the Mahdi to Tehran within two years.

Conversely, some Jewish groups in Jerusalem hope to clear the path for their own messiah by rebuilding a temple on a site now occupied by one of Islam's holiest shrines.

Artisans have re-created priestly robes of white linen, gem-studded breastplates, silver trumpets and solid-gold menorahs to be used in the Holy Temple —— along with two 6½½-ton marble cornerstones for the building's foundation.

Then there is Clyde Lott, a Mississippi revivalist preacher and cattle rancher. He is trying to raise a unique herd of red heifers to satisfy an obscure injunction in the Book of Numbers: the sacrifice of a blemish-free red heifer for purification rituals needed to pave the way for the messiah.

So far, only one of his cows has been verified by rabbis as worthy, meaning they failed to turn up even three white or black hairs on the animal's body.
Linking these efforts is a belief that modern technologies and global communications have made it possible to induce completion of God's plan within this generation.

Though there are myriad interpretations of how it will play out, the basic Christian apocalyptic countdown —— as described by the Book of Revelation in the New Testament —— is as follows:

Jews return to Israel after 2,000 years, the Holy Temple is rebuilt, billions of people perish during seven years of natural disasters and plagues, the antichrist arises and rules the world, the battle of Armageddon erupts in the vicinity of Israel, Jesus returns to defeat Satan's armies and preside over Judgment Day.

Generations of Christians have hoped for the Second Coming of Jesus, said UCLA historian Eugen Weber, author of the 1999 book Apocalypses: Prophecies, Cults and Millennial Beliefs Through the Ages.

And it's always been an ultimately bloody hope, a slaughterhouse hope, he added with a sigh. What we have now in this global age is a vaster and bloodier-than-ever Wagnerian version. But, then, we are a very imaginative race.

Apocalyptic movements are nothing new; even Christopher Columbus hoped to assist in the Great Commission by evangelizing New World inhabitants.

Some religious scholars saw apocalyptic fever rise as the year 2000 approached, and they expected it to subside after the millennium arrived without a hitch.

It didn't. According to various polls, an estimated 40% of Americans believe that a sequence of events presaging the end times is already underway. Among the believers are pastors of some of the largest evangelical churches in America, who converged at Faith Central Bible Church in Inglewood in February to finalize plans to start 5 million new churches worldwide in 10 years.

Jesus Christ commissioned his disciples to go to the ends of the Earth and tell everyone how they could achieve eternal life, said James Davis, president of the Global Pastors Network's Billion Souls Initiative, one of an estimated 2,000 initiatives worldwide designed to boost the Christian population.

As we advance around the world, Davis said, we'll be shortening the time needed to fulfill that Great Commission. Then, the Bible says, the end will come.

An opposing vision, invoked by Ahmadinejad in an address before the United Nations last year, suggests that the Imam Mahdi, a 9th century figure, will soon emerge from a well to conquer the world and convert everyone to Islam.
O mighty Lord, he said, I pray to you to hasten the emergence of your last repository, the promised one, that perfect and pure human being, the one that will fill this world with justice and peace.

At the appropriate time, according to Shiite tradition, the Mahdi will reappear and, along with Jesus, lead Muslims in a struggle to rid the world of corruption and establish justice.

For Christians, the future of Israel is the key to any end-times scenario, and various groups are reaching out to Jews —— or proselytizing among them —— to advance the Second Coming.

A growing number of fundamentalist Christians in mostly Southern states are adopting Jewish religious practices to align themselves with prophecies saying that Gentiles will stand as one with Jews when the end is near.

Evangelist John C. Hagee of the 19,000-member Cornerstone Church in San Antonio has helped 12,000 Russian Jews move to Israel, and donated several million dollars to Israeli hospitals and orphanages.

We are the generation that will probably see the rapture of the church, Hagee said, referring to a moment in advance of Jesus' return when the world's true believers will be airlifted into heaven.

In Christian theology, the first thing that happens when Christ returns to Earth is the judgment of nations, said Hagee, who wears a Jewish prayer shawl when he ministers. It will have one criterion: How did you treat the Jewish people? Anyone who understands that will want to be on the right side of that question. Those who are anti-Semitic will go to eternal damnation.

On July 18, Hagee plans to lead a contingent of high-profile evangelists to Washington to make their concerns about Israel's security known to congressional leaders. More than 1,200 evangelists are expected for the gathering.

Twenty-five years ago, I called a meeting of evangelists to discuss such an effort, and the conversation didn't last an hour, he said. This time, I called and they all came and stayed. And when the meeting was over, they all agreed to speak up for Israel.

Underlining the sense of urgency is a belief that the end-times clock started ticking May 15, 1948, when the United Nations formally recognized Israel.

I'll never forget that night, Hagee said. I was 8 years old at the time and in the kitchen with my father listening to the news about Israel's rebirth on the radio. He said, 'Son, this is the most important day in the 20th century.'

Hagee's message is carried on 160 television stations and 50 radio stations and can be seen in Africa, Europe, Australia, New Zealand and most Third World nations.

By contrast, Bill McCartney, a former University of Colorado football coach and co-founder of the evangelical Promise Keepers movement for men, which became huge in the 1990s, has had a devil of a time getting his own apocalyptic campaign off the ground.

It's called The Road to Jerusalem, and its mission is to convert Jews to Christianity —— while there is still time.

Our whole purpose is to hasten the end times, he said. The Bible says Jews will be brought to jealousy when they see Christians and Jewish believers together as one —— they'll want to be a part of that. That's going to signal Jesus' return.

Jews and others who don't accept Jesus, he added matter-of-factly, are toast.

McCartney, who only a decade ago sermonized to stadium-size crowds of Promise Keepers, said finding people to back his sputtering cause has been like plowing cement.

Given end-times scenarios saying that non-believers will die before Jesus returns —— and that the antichrist will rule from Jerusalem's rebuilt Holy Temple —— Jews have mixed feelings about the outpouring of support Israel has been getting from evangelical organizations.

I truly believe John Hagee is at once a daring, beautiful person —— and quite dangerous, said Orthodox Rabbi Brad Hirschfield, vice president of the National Jewish Center for Learning and Leadership in New York.

I sincerely recognize him as a hero for bringing planeloads of people to Israel at a time when people there were getting blown up by the busloads, Hirschfield said. But he also believes that the only path to the father is through Jesus. That leaves me out.

Meanwhile, in what has become a spectacular annual routine, Jews —— hoping to rebuild the Holy Temple destroyed by the Romans in AD 70 —— attempt to haul the 6 1/2 -ton cornerstones by truck up to the Temple Mount, the site now occupied by the Dome of the Rock shrine. Each year, they are turned back by police.

Among those turned away is Gershon Solomon, spokesman for Jerusalem's Temple Institute. When the temple is built, he said, Islam is over.

I'm grateful for all the wonderful Christian angels wanting to help us, Solomon added, acknowledging the political support from Christians who are now Israel's best lobbyists in the United States.

However, when asked to comment on the fate of non-Christians upon the Second Coming of Jesus, he said, That's a very embarrassing question. What can I tell you? That's a very terrible Christian idea.

What kind of religion is it that expects another religion will be destroyed?

But are all of these efforts to hasten the end of the world a bit like, well, playing God?
Some Christians, such as Roman Catholics and some Protestant denominations, believe in the Second Coming but don't try to advance it. It's important to be ready for the Second Coming, they say, though its timetable cannot be manipulated.

Hirschfield said he prays every day for the coming of the Jewish messiah, but he too believes that God can't be hurried.

For me, he said, the messiah is like the mechanical bunny at a racetrack: It always stays a little ahead of the runners but keeps the pace toward a redeemed world.

Trouble is, there are many people who want to bring a messiah who looks just like them. For me, that kind of messianism is spiritual narcissism.

But some Christian leaders say they aren't playing God; they're just carrying out his will.

Ted Haggard, president of the National Assn. of Evangelicals, says the commitment to fulfilling the Great Commission has naturally intensified along with the technological advances God provided to carry out his plans.

Over in Mississippi, Lott believes that he is doing God's work, and that is why he wants to raise a few head of red heifers for Jewish high priests. Citing Scripture, Lott and others say a pure red heifer must be sacrificed and burned and its ashes used in purification rituals to allow Jews to rebuild the temple.

But Lott's plans have been sidetracked.

Facing a maze of red tape and testing involved in shipping animals overseas —— and rumors of threats from Arabs and Jews alike who say the cows would only bring more trouble to the Middle East —— he has given up on plans to fly planeloads of cows to Israel. For now.

In the meantime, some local ranchers have expressed an interest in raising their own red heifers for Israel, and fears of hoof-and-mouth disease and blue tongue forced Lott to relocate his only verified red heifer —— a female born in 1993 —— to Nebraska.

Cloning is out of the question, he said, because the technique is not approved by the rabbinical council of Israel. Artificial insemination has so far failed to produce another heifer certified by rabbis.

Something deep in my heart says God wants me to be a blessing to Israel, Lott said in a telephone interview. But it's complicated. We're just not ready to send any red heifers over there.

If not now, when?

If there's a sovereign God with his hand in the affairs of men, it'll happen, and it'll be a pivotal event, he said. That time is soon. Very soon.


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Same with Clinton versus Bush.  Clinton is a great, great man.  He is a flawed human being, but I know he has the country's best interests at heart.  By examining his life, it is obvious he is honored to serve our country.  Bush has been a loser all his life.  His business failures, his military "service," his drug use.  He had only had his over-inflated ego in mind when he stepped up and claimed that he was told by God to be president.  He has stayed in his little rich family cocoon all his life and has no interest in the lives of those less fortunate.  Time will prove that he did not gain the presidency due to any ability, but just that he was just a malleable dupe snagged by the neocons to fulfill their plans.


 


Trailblazing refusal of public funds, record-breaking fundraising

That guy sure knows how to raise mountains of money.  Small donors, big votes.  Innovative and successful.  Now that's what I'm talkin' about.  T-minus 18 and counting. 


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There isn't one person on this entire board who has wished anyone to be killed, especially an MP.


For you to suggest that someone got their wish is inflammatory, irresponsible and an outright LIE (not that that's a new communication technique used by you people).


As far as looting, anybody who steals a plasma TV, computer, etc., should be considered criminal and should be stopped in whatever way is necessary.


I just wonder what YOU would do if you had children and were in a situation where you had no water, no electricity, no food, nowhere to sleep for DAYS ON END.  Would you go into a Walmart and take some water, baby formula, food -- whatever it takes so that you CAN STAY ALIVE?  I've never been in a position like that, but I can pretty much guarantee that if I were, I'd do whatever I had to do to feed my children and keep them safe from harm.  If that included taking items from a store (that nobody was ever going to buy anyway), then you'd better believe I'd do it.


You sound very much like the person I heard in the store the other day, who said that she's let her kids FREEZE TO DEATH before accepting any help from Chavez.


Guess it's easy to see who has the family values in this crowd.


You're a disgrace.


Charts continued...lol (sm)
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continued...save lives????
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No, what is offensive and vulgur is your continued
moaning and harping and complaining.  Lighten up.  What we need is for you people to give something a little bit of a chance before you drown everything and everybody with your doom and gloom predictions.  I was merely suggesting something more constructive!
Fed reports economy continued to deteriorate

Gee, I'd been wondering why we were paying the big bucks to these Fed officials and now I know.  So they can tell us things we could have told them (for a lot less money, too).


Perhaps we should call the Fed "MOOSE"  (the Ministry For Obvious Official Statements on the Economy)?  You can see now why we needed Palin, who knows how to field dress a moose.


...and then there was Obama the other day telling Congress not to spend too much money.  In case you didn't catch what I just said, this was Mr. Super-Deficit Obama, telling Congress they should watch the spending. 


I think that the White House has been listening to the national backlash on Daddy MoreBucks' drunken spending spree, and wants to have something they can float during Obama's next campaign to show how fiscally responsible he is. Certainly, there's no connection between what he says and what he does. 


But wait - we're already seeing Obama's next campaign, aren't we?  The man never stops campaigning.


 


Isn't that what you are doing? Telling me...
what to think and what to do? You can state you want free license to kill babies and I can't say I am against that? Get over YOURself.
We are telling you (sm)
The Bible tells us in several books, particularly Revelations. For someone who does not believe, read it as a history book. The fact that everything it says is coming to pass is undeniable. I don't necessarily think Obama is the anti-Christ. I do think everything else is coming to pass though, and we need to be looking for who the anti-Christ is. I have had my doubts in the past about my religion as well, but it is undeniable that the things the Bible predicts will happen are truly happening now.
So, you are telling us that you never
support Bush as our President and yet you expect everyone now to be bubbling over with excitement and accept Obama just because you do and pour our support behind him from day one. It is people like you who are so blind-sided and selfish and think only about yourself. You have been mully-grubbing Bush for 8 long years, so you never once gave him a chance. Obama has not even taken office yet and you are already deliriously happy, how do you know he is going to give you reason to beam with pride? You, along with a whole host of others, are such a foolish child.
You are really telling 1 now, for example
I was on the gab board yesterday and you came over there and started throwing your opinions around at something I said. You should tell the truth (but I guess most on her know about you anyway)- maybe it is just not like you to tell the truth. You gang up on anyone first. Why the capitalization- afraid you cant be heard good enough? Why don’t you just slime away.
Nobody is telling you anything
"You don't know how to be happy without a piece of paper?" Well if that is the case then you and your husband should not be allowed to be married either. Can't you two be happy without a piece of paper. What kind of ludicrous thing to say.

I am a human being. I should have the same rights you do to be able to marry whom I want to. You sit and tell me I should be happy with being discriminated against. Is that what you said about the blacks who had to ride in the back of the bus and not be allowed to sit up with the white folks (before Rosa Parks) - "you should just be happy to be able to ride the bus". Or how about not being able to drink out of the same water fountain as the white folks - "you should just be happy your getting any water at all".

And I'm sick and tired of hearing how we should just be happy to be together and not be afforded the same things that other human beings are afforded. When I can't make decisions about my other halves health care or other issues then yeah, that bothers me. When her family hates us because we are gay and takes everything we have lived for away from us, yeah, then that bothers me.

And you you know...when Judy and Barbara get married in the sight of God, their minister, and witnesses yes, that is "lawful" and their marriage license will say so, and you can say what you want - it means nothing.

But don't sit there and say I can get married but you can't. You can keep your moral values all you want, just stop spreading that type of bigotry. We're are not pushing anything down your throat. We want to get married and live our lives without anyone interfering with us.

You talk about twisting and manipulating. God loves everyone and there is nothing to prove that God disapproves of gay or lesbian marriage. In fact if Judy is dying and nobody will take care of her but Barbara I think God will love her probably a bit more than those who are hateful and bigotted towards them and would let Judy sit and rot in a hospital bed. So don't sit there and twist God's intent into something you want to believe. After we're all gone and moved on in lives I'm sure we will know whether or not God was displeased with us. And for those who are trying their hardest to keep the others unhappy. I'm sure "He'll" have some pretty strong words for them.

God made us human. We are all not perfect by any means. You need to get a clue! God loves all of us whether or not you want to believe that. Yeah, get a clue!

BTW - in case you haven't noticed, you are not god and by your posts I'm sure not going to believe anything you have to say as though you know what Gods intents are because you don't.
OMG! Are you telling me

that N. Korea wouldn't do horrible things to prisoners unless we start it first?  Is that what you are saying?  Seriously....I'd much rather be a prisoner in Gitmo getting waterboarded than be a prisoner in N. Korea.  And honestly.....who the he!! would know what we do to our prisoners unless our brainless wonder of a president didn't decide to broadcast it to the world for his witch hunts.  Sheesh.  This is what happens when people want to know every little detail during a war.  The stuff gets leaked out, our country is torn between the people who agree and the people who don't, and then other countries not only see us fighting amongst ourselves but they also know exactly what we are doing.


No one is telling
you that you can't have orgies and commit sodomy in your own home till the cows come home. What you do in your own home is your business, not the government's. What rights have been taken from the homosexual community? None that I can see. If you're talking marriage--a man has the right to marry a woman and a woman has the right to marry a man, regardless of your sexual dysfunctions.
and telling everyone...no demanding
that everyone feel the way they do.  Yes...ugly and evil.  UNPATRIOTIC AND ANTI-AMERICAN.
Never, not in any post, did I say God was telling me to do anything...
nice smokescreen, but a lie. Apparently some people do need training on the stages of pregnancy when they claim that all is aborted is a "blob" of tissue. That is a way to justify it in minds, yes...but it is not the truth. You would think people would at least want to know what they are supporting or choosing. But it is much more difficult when you assign form, a beating heart, things that signify a living human being.

If posts on abortion tire you, for the love of Pete don't read them! How hard is that?? Just pass right on over it. Post the issues that are important to you...like your job, the econonmy, the war, your social security. By the way, while you are researching social security, check what administration had control the first time it was raided to fund other social programs.

Again...do not attribute things to me that I did not say. Abortion is a religious issue to some, a moral issue to all. Do you think you have to be "religious," a Christian, or "know God" in order to be pro life? I beg to differ. You obviously are not a religious person, but that does not mean you are not a moral person, does it? Of course not. I believe abortion to be morally wrong, just like I believe capital punishment to be morally wrong. I believe stealing is morally wrong. I believe cheating on your spouse is morally wrong. I believe pedophilia is morally wrong. And you don't have to be "religious" to believe ANY of those things are morally wrong.

And if that chaps you, so be it. I don't have to apologize to you for standing against what I believe to be morally wrong.

I am tired of being attacked over and over as well, but I guess we will both just have to put up with it, won't we?
Yessss, just keep telling yourself that... sm
BTW, the GOP already filed a lawsuit in Ohio over this early voting and they lost. Stings doesn't it?
Telling someone to "buzz off"
is sort of like someone swearing.........it shows a decidedly limited vocabulary.
no telling where this will lead.
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Rush telling it like it is...(sm)

"Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream."


"The difference between Los Angeles and yogurt is that yogurt comes with less fruit. "


"He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting." --on an ad by Michael J. Fox endorsing Claire McCaskill for Senate for supporting embryonic stem cell research


"This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation...I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You ever heard of the need to blow some steam off?" --on the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal


"And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs,
using drugs, importing drugs.  And the laws are good
because we know what happens to people in societies and
neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if
people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought
to be accused and they ought to be convicted and
they ought to be sent up."


"I am addicted to prescription pain medication."


"Why should Blacks be heard? They're 12% of the population.
Who the hell cares."


"One of the things I want to do before I die is conduct the
homeless olympics...the 10-metre shopping cart relay,
the dumpster dig, and the hop, skip, and trip."


"The only way to reduce the number of nuclear weapons is to use them."


Awesome leader you have there!


Nobody's telling her she doesn't have a right to speak.sm
She just needs to realize that everyone does not feel the way she does and YES, I have family members who are in Iraq right now who do not support this war, so the OP was not exactly right.
My point is, he is telling a different story now...
that he is writing a book than he did under oath in front of Congress. There has to be a reason for that. He still says he was wrong in the intelligence, he admits that he said *slam dunk* in reference to WMD, and he said in the congressional hearings that he believed there was WMD. Now he says different. Now he is trying to say that, in so many words, they wanted to go to war so badly that they believed his bad intelligence. That is NUTS, I am sorry, and I don't need a news outlet of any bent to tell me that. I watched him testify before COngress on TV. I know what he said. He is not the only one who believed it...a lot of intelligence agencies all over the world believed it. He just does not want his legacy to be that he gave the wrong intelligence that started the war. Well..too late. He was the head of the CIA and the buck stops there. He has already been caught in two lies. Perle was not even in the country at the time Tenet says he talked to him. Tenet lied. They have the documentation that Perle was in another country for Pete's sake. At this point I don't believe a word the man says. As to Clark...do some research on him and you will see that he was saying the same things as Tenet to the Clinton administration. Guess he believed it when he was saying it, but not when Tenet was saying it. The issue here, however, is not Clark and Powell. It is Tenet. He was the head of the CIA. Either he is lying now in the book or he lied under oath in front of Congress. Either way, he is a liar, in my opinion.
Strange, they keep telling us in Oregon...

That it will all come down to us.


I certainly hope that's true because we hate Hillary AND McCain.


 


With all due respect....you are telling me to back off? lol.
Whether I ever win or not does not matter...I will not stop the battle and I will not cease calling it what it is...horrific torture/murder of the unborn. I feel the unborn have the right to life, just like you have a right to life. I advocate for both of you. You want to fight for the right to murder the unborn and give others the right to murder their unborn in the name of YOUR uterus, YOUR choice, that is your prerogative. Just like fighting against it is mine. Last time I looked, that is every American's right. If Darryl Hannah can climb a tree to save it, I think I should be allowed to speak on behalf of the unborn. Lotsa times she doesn't save the tree, bhut she is still gonna climb'em. Sheesh.
The job: Busybody. The life: Telling everyone
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So are you telling us that OBAMA is a freak

being a Christian and all???


You don't believe in freedom of religion.  You are against Christianity.  Oh, except for O, he can be...because he is your personal savior?


Then why aren't you telling that to the poster
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Wow, telling statement at the end of that post sm
"But Obama knows what con men have long known, that their job is not to convince skeptics but to enable the gullible to continue to believe what they want to believe. He does that very well.”

Oh, and you are a real "class act" telling someone
to "buzz off."
You're not telling the truth.

One more time, THIS IS FROM OBAMA'S WEBSITE.  Point out where it says "required" or "mandatory" or any other such similar word.  The word "REQUIRED" came from the propaganda site -- it was invented -- and linked to Obama's site.


BELOW IS WHAT CAME FROM OBAMA'S SITE:


America Serves



 


"When you choose to serve -- whether it's your nation, your community or simply your neighborhood -- you are connected to that fundamental American ideal that we want life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness not just for ourselves, but for all Americans. That's why it's called the American dream."


 


The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year and by developing a plan so that all college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.


http://change.gov/americaserves/


 


I was just telling my opinion in my 1st post.
Isn't this what this forum is about, posting one's opinion? What's your problem, getting all aggressive. This is the last comment I am reading or giving regarding this thread. So, do not even bother posting.
Once again you wasted a whole paragraph telling me how stupid I am SM
without a SINGLE FACT!   I give up with you. You are just too much (or too little). Whateva!
All the while telling us how hateful WE are. Totally clueless. nm

Telling someone to leave the country is worse than
.
Ron Paul was the only one telling you the truth about the economy. sm
He was mocked, ignored, and called a kook. I guess we will see who was wearing tin foil when this whole system crumbles.

Wall Street Rescue Worst Legislation Ever.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.smith08oct08,0,1221284.column
I'm voting for Obama. That's what I'm telling the pollsters.
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I am telling you the action is on the Faith Forum
The election is over and Christmas is probably not coming. They are all getting ready for the end and it is very interesting.  I myself hoard spam just in case, and water, and cat liter, but not much else.  Good Luck!
I e-mailed my senators telling them the same thing! nm
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Ahmadinejad is doiing what Khatami is telling him to do..
I think that Ahmadinejad feels miserable now with so many protests.
Even the 1st election of Anmadinejad is said to have been a fraud.
How about : Stop telling the President of the United States WHAT functions
to attend and which not?
I think O and his cabinet are doing a better job in this than you.
why do you answer so stupidly, the right answer
if you had any brains, would have been......

'well, she made a mistake.'

But telling me that I need a job, is so stupid, yes, stupid AND a very weak point.
You have to check and double check every single thing they say. They're not capable of telling t
truth about anything.  It's getting very boring and tedious to read their crap.  Why won't they stay on their own board like they tell us to do?
I can answer that. The answer is no. nm

Answer

I was frequently banned on the old forum format, at least once a week during the weeks I was actually posting (I would then get disgusted and stay away for up to a month at a time).  Have only been banned once since the new format so I would agree with your analysis. 


Otherwise as to other folks banned, I remember lots and lots of complaints/comments but can offer no specifics.  I also remember seeing a lot of interesting posts go poof!  Used to really really be bad on the old religion board.  But hopefully that's improved also.


I would have bet it all that you would answer this way.
I suppose you also believe that poverty causes crime.
You would not like my answer
so I won't even go there...
So the answer is yes,
Where did the soldier in the article lie?

I come from a family with multiple generations who served and continue to serve in the military, including Iraq, so spare me your little lecture about troop morale.

Have a lovely day.
This should answer...
at least one of your questions. I found this site: http://www.cms.hhs.gov/MedicaidGenInfo/05_SCHIP%20Information.asp

Which states that in general, states can not permit the implementation of preexisting condition exclusions.

However, in states like South Carolina, where SCHIP is run through BCBS, they can implement preexisting condition exclusions, but only in so far as HIPAA rules allow - which I would assume (have not researched) is the 12 month waiting period.

As for your other question, I have a muscle disease (big time preexisting) and I can't even get health coverage privately. I have to struggle to work full time, even on the days I feel like my whole body is on fire, just to get group coverage. I had the 12 month preexisting condition thing, with which they are denying everything - saying that it's all related to the preexisting condition - and I pay $260 a month. I should also mention that this coverage is just for me - no children/spouse.

Hope that helps.

Thanks for the answer....
and you have a good one as well.