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i wouldn't go down that road

Posted By: mt on 2008-09-02
In Reply to: Question about McCain's daughter - sm

When you start knocking down spouses, but especially children, of politicians that's pretty low. Not all families "look similar". My BIL was not his father's son, but he claims he looks the most like his father. There is a definite non-resemblance there but he doesn't see it.

As for Chelsea? Oh please, I've heard her speak and she is too infatuated with her mother and how great she thinks her mother is she doesn't understnad the issues, and she doesn't sound all too intelligent. Makes me wonder where that education money went her parents spent on her education.

I think McCain's daughter is a pretty and doesn't look "challenged" as you call it, but to start commenting on who you think is pretty or not pretty or whose hair color is nice or not nice. I woun't go down that road, cos we could really get into Hillary's hair color and others.


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We have been down this road before (sm).
Here is a list of enactments passed under the 110th Congress. Precisely which of these do you hold responsible for breaking the bank?

1. February 2, 2007 — House Page Board Revision Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-2, 121 Stat. 4
2. May 25, 2007 — U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans' Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007, Pub.L. 110-28, 121 Stat. 112, including Title VIII: Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2007, 121 Stat. 188
3. June 14, 2007 — Preserving United States Attorney Independence Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-34, 121 Stat. 224
4. July 26, 2007 — Foreign Investment and National Security Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-49, 121 Stat. 246
6. August 3, 2007 — Implementing Recommendations of the 9/11 Commission Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-53, 121 Stat. 266
7. August 5, 2007 — Protect America Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-55,121 Stat. 552
8. September 14, 2007 — Honest Leadership and Open Government Act, Pub.L. 110-81, 121 Stat. 735
9. November 8, 2007 — Water Resources Development Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-114, 121 Stat. 1041 - Veto Overridden
10. December 19, 2007 — Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-140, 121 Stat. 1492
11. February 13, 2008 — Economic Stimulus Act of 2008, Pub.L. 110-185, 122 Stat. 613
12. May 21, 2008 — Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act, Pub.L. 110-233, 122 Stat. 881
13. May 22, 2008 — Food and Energy Security Act of 2007 (2007 Farm Bill), Pub.L. 110-234, 122 Stat. 923
14. June 30, 2008 — Supplemental Appropriations Act of 2008, Pub.L. 110-252, 122 Stat. 2323, including Title V: Post-9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Act of 2008 ("G.I. Bill 2008")
15. July 10, 2008 — FISA Amendments Act of 2008, Pub.L. 110-261, 122 Stat. 2436
16. July 29, 2008 — Tom Lantos Block Burmese JADE (Junta's Anti-Democratic Efforts) Act of 2008, Pub.L. 110-286 122 Stat. 2632
17. July 30, 2008 — Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008, Pub.L. 110-289, 122 Stat. 2654
18. October 3, 2008 — Public Law 110-343 (Pub.L. 110-343), including:
a. Div. A: Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, H.R. 1424;
b. Div. B: Energy Improvement and Extension Act of 2008; and
c. Div. C: Tax Extenders and Alternative Minimum Tax Relief Act of 2008

We are already too far down the road...sm
Nothing will save us from a depression now. The only question is who can turn us around. Not who can turn us around the quickest, just who can turn us around period! A very heavy burden. It will take an extradinary person to get us out of this awful mess.
notes from the low road...
hi folks, Joe and I are going to keep on campaigning (fiddling while Rome burns) and they will call us if they need us....hey! Wonder why they aren't calling???
Nah, just a big bump in the road. sm
There was another big recession in 1991. Bill Clinton cleaned it up during his presidency, and we ended up with a budget surplus.


We need responsible government again to get us back on top. It will happen, but it will take a while.

You really want to go down the lobbyist road?
can you say glass house?
Since you chose to go down this road...

...with me.  This is cut and pasted from the web site.  While this does not specifically name soft drinks, anything that rings up as taxable on the register is ineligible.  In Ohio, only foods for home consumption are nontaxable; restaurant food is taxable;  soft drinks are taxable; paper products, soap, etc. 


Okay, NOW you're excused!  And still not credible.  But thanks for playing! 


Households CAN use benefits to buy:


























Foods for the household to eat, such as:
  -- breads and cereals;
  -- fruits and vegetables;
  -- meats, fish and poultry; and
  -- dairy products.

Seeds and plants which produce food for the household to eat.


In some areas, restaurants can be authorized to accept benefits from qualified homeless, elderly, or disabled people in exchange for low-cost meals.


Households CANNOT use benefits to buy:































Beer, wine, liquor, cigarettes or tobacco;

Any nonfood items, such as:

  -- pet foods;
  -- soaps, paper products; and
  -- household supplies.

Vitamins and medicines.


Food that will be eaten in the store.


Hot foods.


sighhh...you just can't avoid the low road can you?
lol
Better the high horse than the low road....nm
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Just wait and see what happens a few years down the road. (nm)
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Road runs both ways......... sm
Time will tell.
Obama is middle of the road?
That road must by at the Indianapolis 500, because it only seems to TURN TO THE LEFT.
I have no problem with US drilling its own oil, BUT 10-15 years down the road
or even 20 years, will we be in the same situation we are in today. The oil resources we have will not last forever at the rate we are using today, and I expect we will continue to increase the amount of oil needed to maintain the country.

So, yeah go ahead and start the US drilling, but once that is bankrupt we will still be in the same place unless other alternatives like hybrid cars, etc, are seriously used as an alternative.
Memo to Hillary: Road Trip!

Memo to Hillary: Road trip to that place between King City and Coalingo


Dear Hillary:


I know you've been real busy with sniper fire and 3:00 a.m. phone calls, etc., but have you ever seen that commercial for AT&T internet service, where the guy says he's on the road between "King City and Coalingo" (sp?) (There are several commercials out there for this product, and the theme for them is people's "moments.")


In the one I'm referring to, there's a guy is standing near a big field with a bunch of cows, explaining how his service lets him do business anywhere, and after he's through explaining how it works and how his bid was the first one in, he gets a text message and says, "It looks like I got the account."


An old man appears and says, "Congratulations on your moment."


Hillary, PLEASE drive yourself have your chauffeur drive you (with or without your cell phone) to that field "between King City and Coalingo" and take a L-O-N-G walk through that field. (Be sure to fill up have one of your servants fill your gas tank first.) Pet a cow or two. Resist the urge to whip out that gun yer granddaddy taught you how to shoot if you become hungry for a filet mignon; maybe you could make a have your maid make a PBJ before your departure (you know, the kind of food that more and more of us hard-working white people are forced to rely on in today's economy). Along the way, don't be afraid to step into the very thing that comprises your soul. Take a deep breath (lots of them). Try to place yourself into Barack Obama's shoes (sans cow dung) and explore WHY it is that YOU believe you must control everything -- even when you're the loser. Why is it that YOU think YOU get to dictate the terms of everything, even if you don't have the right to do so?


You have repeatedly said you're "in it to win it." You didn't win it. Now pretend to have some grace and/or just some personal decency and do NOT try to strong-arm the person who DID win it. There are a lot of women who would be good Vice Presidential candidates, all of whom believe in and would be loyal to President Obama, none of them potential orphan-makers.


Take a good, long look at those cows, Hillary. Maybe you'll learn a thing or two about "moments." Hopefully, you'll even learn a thing or two about yourself.


Edited by Moderator for aggressive and strange language.


The dems are taking the high road?
What little bubble do you live in and what are you smoking?  The dems have had dirty ads just as much as the pubs have.  The ad showing McCain's face and scares and talking about his health.....WAY uncalled for.  The only reason the dems haven't fully attacked Palin and that church was because they want to keep conservative Bible thumpers in their favor.  If they attack Palin for that, they lose the Bible thumpers.  They aren't taking the high road....they are just trying to keep voters who they normally wouldn't get.
Heroe..like - He can't take the high horse and then claim the low road.

Bushisms


I appreciate that question because I, in the state of Texas, had heard a lot of discussion about a faith-based initiative eroding the important bridge between church and state.


I mean, there needs to be a wholesale effort against racial profiling, which is illiterate children.


See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.


The law I sign today directs new funds and new focus to the task of collecting vital intelligence on terrorist threats and on weapons of mass production.


http://www.wisdomquotes.com/cat_bushisms.html


Any of you live in the midwest? Just in case you live down the road from me...

I live in Wisconsin and am often also in Minnesota.


No, I'm not a stalker or a weirdo (my opinion, anyway).


Would expect Obama to take high road. To expect this
One of many issues of valid concern is the fact that Palin would accept this nomination knowing full well (or maybe not) that when the broadcast media get done with this, Bristol's entire life for at least the next 5 years or so, will be red meat for publications like the Enquirer. Judgement. Priorities? The cat's out of the bag now, and I say that with no joy whatsover. In fact, across party lines, left or right, anybody with red blood coursing through beating hearts would stop and for one single moment experience the pain that poor girl must be feeling. Despite this, her mother has put her in the position to put a smiley face on no matter what, or go under the witness protection program, change her name and leave the country. Fair game? Of course not. National spotlight. You bet, and there is no turning back now.
Follow the yellow brick road....follow....
the yellow brick road. The great and powerful O will take care care of you. Watch out for those flying monkeys he is surrounding himself with tho....LOL. You folks kill me. This is ALL on you. You gave him the power. Remember that....
I wouldn't want to be on the
O'Reilly Factor either.  Bill O'Reilly never lets the people talk.  He is always cutting them off to speak his opinion.  Kind of annoying really.  I am no Obama supporter, but I think as a person in general.....I wouldn't want to be on his show.  If people have opposing ideas....fine....but let them talk.....stop talking over them. 
Wouldn't we all??
LOL in regards to Christmas, very few people actually celebrate the *true* meaning anymore. Our neighbor has already put their lights up for heaven's sake!

Do Jews believe that he was crucified? I mean is it up until the resurrection that is disagreed with? Or is that just based on who you are talking to?

I mean my belief is that Jesus died and rose again and he had to die for our sins to pay our sin debt so we can go to heaven. I also believe he is the only way to heaven, because if not then it was senseless for him to die. But I do believe he is coming back and we will be gathered with him and after the tribulation heaven will be here on earth and those who didn't believe will be "ashes under our feet" as the Bible says.

I know that a lot of "Christians" now don't believe all of the Bible, or believe there are errors, which just amazes me, but hey, everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. To me God cannot lie, and if God said the Bible is the Truth, well, it's the Truth then.

I'm sorry if I got heated before. I am a new Christian (I was baptized last November, but I would say I didn't get serious until January) and I knew before that a lot of people are against Christianity (in general) but it amazes me how so many people are just downright hateful about it! I mean yes, I can understand, because there are a lot of hypocritical Christians, a lot of Christians who profess Jesus and then go out into the world and do the same old things they used to, and those were my very same arguments before I believed in Him. But I have met so many more Christians that are just CONCERNED! I mean do people not understand that our belief in Jesus is just as strong as our belief that a chair is really there when we go to sit in it?

I'm ranting again. But what I was discussing with you I am just curious because it seems like Jews and Christians agree on a lot up until the point of whether Jesus was Messiah or not. I guess my biggest question is why don't they believe he is the Messiah?




I wouldn't know.

Since we've never cared enough about the average American to try universal healthcare.  We could probably find out how it works from the Iraqis, though, since part of Bush's war budget was to provide comprehensive universal healthcare to THEM. 


It's sad that some people are okay with paying for Wall Street crooks to get richer and richer. 


We're all about greed, greed, greed.  Even with all the publicity about Bush's bailouts, I just heard on the news that the end-of-year bonuses are still in place for the Wall Street crooks.


Seems to me that when a government runs around and buys up banks, that's FASCISM, so if we move to SOCIALISM (which will never happen and which is a ridiculous statement), that move will be a giant step UP from what we have now.


I'm sick and tired of eight years of greed.  By the looks of things, the majority of Americans are sick of it, as well, which gives me some hope for what is left of humanity.


Obama is right.  "Trickle down" hasn't worked.  It's time to try "trickle UP." 


Well of course! Why wouldn't I? I, too, am
LOL
I wouldn't be so sure about that

The Catholic heads are really pushing this issue, as are a lot of other Christian leaders.  Most people don't like either candidate (like me), but they'd rather vote for the one that settles their conscience. 


Add that to the fact that Americans like their guns and McCain has a strong chance.  He's really been coming up in the poles (not sure if it'll be enough, though).


You would think so, wouldn't you....sm
or at least grouped by party, which wouldn't really be fair to the minor parties because they would probably wind up on the back of the ticket. I have never used a "punch" voting machine, so I am not familiar with the way that they are read, but wouldn't there be a chance the name punched on the back could be read as being for a candidate that appears on the front of the ballot?
I wouldn't say......... sm
that I'm "un-narrow", DB, because I am probably about as narrow as they come short of those who bomb abortion clinics, etc., but I do understand what you are saying. I appreciate you understanding my point as well.
Wouldn't this have all come up
when his background investigation was done when he was elected Senator? If there was truly a birth certificate issue, I am sure it would have come up during the DSS (Defense Security Service) investigation process.
I wouldn't go that far...lol..(sm)
While Obama is very popular worldwide, he still has to prove himself.  I believe he will do an excellent job, but we have a lot of work to do yet.
No, actually they wouldn't do that...(sm)

Keep in mind that Reid was actually trying to stop him from getting into the Senate but couldn't find any legal grounds to do so, and it was both pubs and dems doing the investigation into Blago.  Dems don't want him in the senate anymore than the pubs do.  From our point of view, he's a has been and can't win an election.


If you want to talk about those all important votes for the stiumulus package, you might want to check out how long pubs have been holding up Franken in Minnesota with court battles.  How many times do they plan on counting that vote anyway? 


They certainly wouldn't be
let off easy and appointed to a government position.  Normal people not paying taxes would not only have to pay their taxes but the interest as well.  We would go under.  Government wouldn't help us or give us a pass like so many in Washington who haven't paid their taxes.  Makes me sick.  Such double standards.  And they wonder why we don't trust them to run our country and why we don't want government to get bigger than it is.  sheesh.
Normally I wouldn't do that, but...(sm)

a good rule of thumb to remember is this:  If you're going to try to insult someone's intelligence, then you should at least try to be literate in the process.


Love the definition, BTW.


Of course you don't. They wouldn't put up with you in a
And they tolerate almost everyone.
Why wouldn't it be?

Not trying to argue, but wouldn't any bill the Congress would submit have to be signed by the president?  (And then, behind everyone's back, the signing statement "magically" appears after the signing, sometime without anyone knowing unless they specifically looked for it.)


For example, Bush signed the "no torture" bill and then later added, basically, "unless I want to."


Why would this bill be any different?  Again, not trying to argue.  I'm just trying to learn the difference between those two examples and what I'm missing here. 


Why wouldn't you?
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They wouldn't be any better if they were
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And owning a gun wouldn't have help either one of them.
That's the point.
Wouldn't suprise me none.nm
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You wouldn't be someone AKA DixieDew, are you? If so,
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Wouldn't surprise me if he still is.
Nothing the Bush administration does surprises me any more.
It wouldn't matter what we said.
Their reaction would be the same.  I suppose I could have raged against a thousand perceived wrongs, assumed that everyone knew my history, and called a poster who dared to question -what makes you think we haven't- as some kind of insensitive heartless slam.  The real truth is much deeper and darker than that.  I am not quite sure why people choose to tell their deepest darkest secrets on chat boards.  Is it so that later on, someone might forget something they never knew, in order to attack that person with out of control fury, as some on this board are wont to do.  Of course, my sympathy goes out ot anyone who loses a loved one NO MATTER WHERE THEY WERE WHEN THEY DIED.  But perhaps my sympathy should be more reserved for those who feel the need to constantly attack, denigrate, misinterpret (deliberately?), hound, and judge those who challenge an ideal.  Having said that, I find some on here who post disturbed.  Merry Christmas to all.  My last post here.  If anyone cares to respond, I will not see it. 
I wouldn't worry about it
Honestly, I think the last thing he needs to worry about is Hillary.  I doubt he will get into the White House to begin with.  The Rethugs will do anything to put a stop to that.  I think they are the bigger threat in this picture.
No I don't. But it wouldn't make me any less of a

"real woman" if I  did. Just curious here, are you male or female?


Wouldn't be the first time he has
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I wouldn't want my 15-yr-old granddaughter going to
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Get in that last word! Wouldn't want you to

Sam's a republican through-&-through. Wouldn't be
All that trumpting of his own virtue & intelligence and all. He doesn't seem to get it that NOBODY reading this forum, no matter what candidate they believe in, is going to change their point of view based on what they read here. And most CERTAINLY not because of anything the oh-so-self-important, omnipotent (or maybe IMpotent?) Sam has written here.
And who wouldn't? She's an embarrassment
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Wouldn't it be cool if you could get EVERY
to BOYCOTT the election and NOT VOTE AT ALL. PERIOD.

Hold the election for ransom, and our demand would be to STOP THE 'BAIL-OUT', and just let nature take its course with the death of Wall Street.
Well you wouldn't want Obama then, right????
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You wouldn't know a fact if it came up
According to Revelations 21:8, there is a special place in hell for liars:

"But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”


Wouldn't it be great.......
to have all these wonderful things -- healthcare, food, clothing, housing, heat/air, transportation, all without paying for it. FREE is great! Now, how do you pay for it?
We wouldn't think of it. You are wasting enough
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