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Wouldn't surprise me if he still is.

Posted By: American Woman on 2005-11-27
In Reply to: He was still on the payroll until - recently...geez - no message - Starcat

Nothing the Bush administration does surprises me any more.


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Martial law wouldn't surprise me. n/m
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It wouldn't surprise me if he changes the law - see message
and allows other countries flags to fly above our so we don't hurt their feelings. After all, according to him we are just a bunch of "selfish ignorant Americans".
It wouldn't surprise me if it broke out....(sm)
into a full fledged civil war.  With everything that's going on over there right now, that would be a huge mess.  However, this may be the only way for Iranian people to break out of it.  I think those who would revolt would definitely get a lot of backing though.  I just don't know how much the US could do to back them considering how our resources are so thin right now. 
God will never offend me, but it wouldn't surprise me if you offend GOD.

People who use God to lie and twist things to their liking are the people who offend me.


The purpose of the site you posted is to bring people to Jesus Christ.  There is certainly nothing wrong with that.


What IS wrong, however, is that the people they list as being *athiests* are people who don't follow their personal religious beliefs, and they are therefore *judged* to be athiests.  This doesn't make it true.  I asked you for facts.  You haven't provided any.  All you provided was slander.


If anything, Phil Donahue respects God more than anyone on this laughable *athiest* site.  Phil Donahue has always taken to task those who feel their God is *better* than anyone else's, always pushed the envelope with the most radical and least credible of the religious fanatics who claim to have an *inside track* to God that nobody else has.  He's asked these so-called Christians if Jews are privileged to go to heaven to their way of thinking, or people of other religions.  Phil Donahue has exposed these people as being totally UN-Jesuslike in their hatred and condemnation of groups of society.  Phil Donahue BELIEVES in freedom of religion for everyone and doesn't buy into spiritual superiority. 


THAT'S why you don't like him.  Trying to pass off this ridiculously slanderous site as being authentic shows who truly is uninformed on this board.


No surprise.

Two Democrats today commented on leftists like you and several others on this board.  I sure do agree with them.


Mike Kinsley, lifelong Democrat, on Pelosi’s pathetic platform:



For national security in general, the Democrats’ plan is so according-to-type that you cringe with embarrassment: It’s mostly about new cash benefits for veterans. Regarding Iraq specifically, the Democrats’ plan has two parts. First, they want Iraqis to “assum[e] primary responsibility for securing and governing their country.” Then they want “responsible redeployment” (great euphemism) of American forces.


Older readers may recognize this formula. It’s Vietnamization—the Nixon-Kissinger plan for extracting us from a previous mistake. But Vietnamization was not a plan for victory. It was a plan for what was called “peace with honor” and is now known as “defeat.”


Maybe “A New Direction for America” is just a campaign document—although it seems to have had no effect at all on the campaign. My fear is that the House Democrats may try to use it as a basis for governing.


Orson Scott Card, lifelong Democrat, on the only issue that matters in this election:



I say this as a Democrat, for whom the Republican domination of government threatens many values that I hold to be important to America’s role as a light among nations.


But there are no values that matter to me that will not be gravely endangered if we lose this war. And since the Democratic Party seems hellbent on losing it — and in the most damaging possible way — I have no choice but to advocate that my party be kept from getting its hands on the reins of national power, until it proves itself once again to be capable of recognizing our core national interests instead of its own temporary partisan advantages.


To all intents and purposes, when the Democratic Party jettisoned Joseph Lieberman over the issue of his support of this war, they kicked me out as well. The party of Harry Truman and Daniel Patrick Moynihan — the party I joined back in the 1970s — is dead. Of suicide.


This may come as a surprise to you, but...
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Why should this surprise you? Now he is saying
that they need to have more regulation, after wanting to de-regulate years ago.
No surprise here...(sm)
I think I said a couple days ago they wouldn't be happy with the result and that it would just turn into a larger *conspiracy.*  Thanks for not disappointing.  LOL
no be surprise
he admits to being a heavy drinker, dating strippers, etc.  He has only donned this moral costume with the church talk and happy marriage schitch since he has had to go far right to get conservative support this election cycle.  Before he was defeated by Bush, he was more left-central.  Now is fair right. 
Big surprise, huh?

With all that lynch mob mentality going on, people are waking up to the real deal.  Even a lot of very prominent pubs are turning away, advising JM to dump that noose around his neck because she is dragging him down.  After all, he did create the monster.  I say, what goes around . . .


No surprise there....
he is a socialist.
This may come as a surprise to you,
are not one monolithic group of people who share the same literal read of the Quran as you would have us believe. Substitute the word Jihadist for Muslim in your statement and then we might have something to talk about. I will not put myself in the position to defend the teachings of a Holy Book that is read, interpreted and elaborated in thousands of different ways by 1.5 billion people who are members of the world's second largest religion. My issue here is not whether or not minority sects within that religion are terrorist...the same way that I see fanatical Christians, by the way (and before you go there, I am Christian). My issue is the ignorant, dangerous rhetoric that would paint a huge majority of humble, spiritual, religious people of faith of any religion in one broad stroke that would leave us believing they they are all out to "get us."
No surprise there.
With the kind of narrow-minded thinking and myopic world view you hav expressed in your posts, of course you can't envision anything except your own stupidity.
Big surprise there.

No surprise here
Been watching this woman move up the ranks of corruption in California for many years now.
For many of us that comes as no surprise......
They have already told O that out of those released from there, they already know to be fact that over 60% of them go back to fight and kill!

Yep, all those poor little gitmo guys now being treated like kings in the bahamas.... nice place to start another group up terrorists training!!!! Too bad so many O lovers have been sucked into that belief that those guys are just lovable little teddy bears!!!
Why doesn't this surprise me??

Nan, you were stalked??? What a surprise!!!!!
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Hey, doesn't surprise me
When Carter won one I knew the committee's cheese had completely slid of their cracker.
This does not come as a surprise. Thanks for posting..nm

What? No takers? No surprise there.
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doesn't surprise me a bit!
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You just might have a big surprise me thinks. lol.

I pray that you will get a surprise

and your husband will be home for the birth of your first child.  I admire that you accept that it is his job.  You are a brave young lady.


Just a coincidence, my favorite Kiger Mustang mare is expecting her first foal on Feb. 21 so I'm going to be a "granny."  LOL


Take care of yourself and that baby!  I'll "argue" with you anytime.  LOL


Pleasant surprise?
SURPRISE!!! We're being attacked AGAIN.  Even Mr. Biden said we are in for an attack of some sort in order to "test" O...Yeah, that's the kind of change I'm looking for...
I actually don't find it to be a surprise at all...
California voted to ban gay marriage before. The supreme court overturned the proposition and allowed it, citing that it was against the state constitution, so all this did was amend the constitution to reinstate what has been voted in before.
Ummm, this may come as a surprise to you
There are between 1.3 and 1.6 BILLION Moslems in the world. Estimates of how many live in the US are widely disputed, but range between 2 and 7 million. Among them, only a very small percentage of them are extremist. That leaves about a BILLION of them, give or take, for Obama to "win over." Got it?
Of course he is a believer. ..... which is no surprise
when you see the agenda he is shoving down everyone's throats!!! People better wake up and take back their country before this man destroys it!
No surprise that he received such applause!

Did you read the other story on that page regarding the U.S. plans to invade Venezuela?  Is the administration so stupid to think that people will actually believe that troops were sent there for R&R?  Gimme a break!


It's really a shame when a socialist leader has more honesty and integrity than an American president.  Given the choice, who would you believe, Bush or Chavez?  Not much of a contest, is it?


What a surprise, you don't condemn skinheads.

And, as usual, you twist my words in order to attack my posts.  I wrote, *It's too bad that these *rotten apples* are making the majority of the good military look bad.*


Shame on YOU for not thinking this is horrible. 


It's hard to surprise a fool. NT
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This is not a surprise either: Chertoff says US needs more authority. sm
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/print?id=2308590
I didn't think much could surprise me anymore
but this is some creepy stuff. What's next?
Your theory doesn't really surprise
me.  I just think it sucks that illegals get so much money from us for education, health care, etc.  Now they want to give illegals the right to vote?  What is the point of being an American citizen nowadays.  You get more rights and benefits being illegal.  It just irks me!!!
China is not industrialized? That would be a real surprise to them, I am sure. nm

What a surprise. You need to shut your TV off & open your mind.nm
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No big surprise here....you pick and choose the facts you want...sm
to read and hear. I'm tired of trying to educate you.



Meanwhile, Barry Obama can do no wrong, and the facts are spun in the media to his direction, making him look like the poster boy for "poor me" they're trying to "smear me" ....

No matter that it is all TRUE!!!!!


Well, boo hoo.

Barry worked for ACORN, was and is, friends with terrorists and racists and liberal democratic former CEOs of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, people who hate this country and all it stands for are his so called "friends" that he has thrown under the bus.


Watch, if he wins, they'll all pop out of the woodwork again.


That man lies and rewrites his life story, and you all believe him.


That old saying that goes: Show me a person's friends and those he surrounds himself with, and it will show you who he is.


Well, I certainly don't like and trust what and who Barry Obama.



Gee, how come there is NO ONE from Barry's former or current life, that are friends that can stand up for his character?




The street is always one-way for the democrats, the biggest spin doctors around.



I'll take SP over O any day.


Making an oak out of an acorn was the October surprise
Nice try. It ain't gonna stick, just like Ayers and all the other smears don't stick. Watch SNL tonight to see them rip Palin apart. Tina Fey was on Letterman last night saying how Palin isn't smart enough and got roars and resounding applause from the audience.
Colin Powell....closet democrat...no surprise there...nm

Bush speech on terror, followed by *surprise* terror alert. Whaaaaaaaaat?

Bush took to TV cameras again to try to sell his Brooklyn Bridge of a war, this time tossing around buzz words like *communism* and *fascism.*  (Yawn)


But wait!!


Within a couple hours, during a televised news conference with Mayor Bloomberg, it was announced that evidence of a bomb threat specific to place, time and method had been received and that the source was very credible. (First thought: *But I thought were were fighting them there so we don't have to fight them HERE.*  Second thought: *This is bad.  We've been warned in advance of this.  Look what happened when we were warned in advance about Katrina?!*)


Yikes!


But wait!


Shortly following that news conference with Mayor Bloomberg, the powers that be in Washington issued a statement that the  threat has doubtful credibility.


Oh.


Okay.  Just another terror warning in America......or not.



I wouldn't want to be on the
O'Reilly Factor either.  Bill O'Reilly never lets the people talk.  He is always cutting them off to speak his opinion.  Kind of annoying really.  I am no Obama supporter, but I think as a person in general.....I wouldn't want to be on his show.  If people have opposing ideas....fine....but let them talk.....stop talking over them. 
Wouldn't we all??
LOL in regards to Christmas, very few people actually celebrate the *true* meaning anymore. Our neighbor has already put their lights up for heaven's sake!

Do Jews believe that he was crucified? I mean is it up until the resurrection that is disagreed with? Or is that just based on who you are talking to?

I mean my belief is that Jesus died and rose again and he had to die for our sins to pay our sin debt so we can go to heaven. I also believe he is the only way to heaven, because if not then it was senseless for him to die. But I do believe he is coming back and we will be gathered with him and after the tribulation heaven will be here on earth and those who didn't believe will be "ashes under our feet" as the Bible says.

I know that a lot of "Christians" now don't believe all of the Bible, or believe there are errors, which just amazes me, but hey, everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. To me God cannot lie, and if God said the Bible is the Truth, well, it's the Truth then.

I'm sorry if I got heated before. I am a new Christian (I was baptized last November, but I would say I didn't get serious until January) and I knew before that a lot of people are against Christianity (in general) but it amazes me how so many people are just downright hateful about it! I mean yes, I can understand, because there are a lot of hypocritical Christians, a lot of Christians who profess Jesus and then go out into the world and do the same old things they used to, and those were my very same arguments before I believed in Him. But I have met so many more Christians that are just CONCERNED! I mean do people not understand that our belief in Jesus is just as strong as our belief that a chair is really there when we go to sit in it?

I'm ranting again. But what I was discussing with you I am just curious because it seems like Jews and Christians agree on a lot up until the point of whether Jesus was Messiah or not. I guess my biggest question is why don't they believe he is the Messiah?




I wouldn't know.

Since we've never cared enough about the average American to try universal healthcare.  We could probably find out how it works from the Iraqis, though, since part of Bush's war budget was to provide comprehensive universal healthcare to THEM. 


It's sad that some people are okay with paying for Wall Street crooks to get richer and richer. 


We're all about greed, greed, greed.  Even with all the publicity about Bush's bailouts, I just heard on the news that the end-of-year bonuses are still in place for the Wall Street crooks.


Seems to me that when a government runs around and buys up banks, that's FASCISM, so if we move to SOCIALISM (which will never happen and which is a ridiculous statement), that move will be a giant step UP from what we have now.


I'm sick and tired of eight years of greed.  By the looks of things, the majority of Americans are sick of it, as well, which gives me some hope for what is left of humanity.


Obama is right.  "Trickle down" hasn't worked.  It's time to try "trickle UP." 


Well of course! Why wouldn't I? I, too, am
LOL
I wouldn't be so sure about that

The Catholic heads are really pushing this issue, as are a lot of other Christian leaders.  Most people don't like either candidate (like me), but they'd rather vote for the one that settles their conscience. 


Add that to the fact that Americans like their guns and McCain has a strong chance.  He's really been coming up in the poles (not sure if it'll be enough, though).


You would think so, wouldn't you....sm
or at least grouped by party, which wouldn't really be fair to the minor parties because they would probably wind up on the back of the ticket. I have never used a "punch" voting machine, so I am not familiar with the way that they are read, but wouldn't there be a chance the name punched on the back could be read as being for a candidate that appears on the front of the ballot?
I wouldn't say......... sm
that I'm "un-narrow", DB, because I am probably about as narrow as they come short of those who bomb abortion clinics, etc., but I do understand what you are saying. I appreciate you understanding my point as well.
Wouldn't this have all come up
when his background investigation was done when he was elected Senator? If there was truly a birth certificate issue, I am sure it would have come up during the DSS (Defense Security Service) investigation process.
I wouldn't go that far...lol..(sm)
While Obama is very popular worldwide, he still has to prove himself.  I believe he will do an excellent job, but we have a lot of work to do yet.
No, actually they wouldn't do that...(sm)

Keep in mind that Reid was actually trying to stop him from getting into the Senate but couldn't find any legal grounds to do so, and it was both pubs and dems doing the investigation into Blago.  Dems don't want him in the senate anymore than the pubs do.  From our point of view, he's a has been and can't win an election.


If you want to talk about those all important votes for the stiumulus package, you might want to check out how long pubs have been holding up Franken in Minnesota with court battles.  How many times do they plan on counting that vote anyway? 


They certainly wouldn't be
let off easy and appointed to a government position.  Normal people not paying taxes would not only have to pay their taxes but the interest as well.  We would go under.  Government wouldn't help us or give us a pass like so many in Washington who haven't paid their taxes.  Makes me sick.  Such double standards.  And they wonder why we don't trust them to run our country and why we don't want government to get bigger than it is.  sheesh.