if you are there and know about the visit

• For all you pro-choice people - Chele
  • In 1982 - me
  • Upon this we agree - gourdpainter
    • gynecological procedures are already different - - Amanda
      • Who pays for these procedures? My guess - wannie
        • you are right - but it is the privacy laws - - Amanda
          • They're children, though. They're not - wannie
        • No--you and I pay for them. - Kendra
          • why would we be paying for it? - Amanda
            • if you are there and know about the visit - Kendra
          • that is, if the child does not want the parents to know at all - Kendra
            • as a minor, it is not up to them!! - nm
            • so you think the doctor is going to let me walk out and not pay? - Amanda
              • If your child goes to an OB/GYN - Kendra
                • well they don't in Georgia - - Amanda
                  • are you sure? - Kendra
                    • off the subject of gyno and onto mental health - - Amanda
                      • And that wasn't right either. He was a minor. It is your - wannie
                      • wow--sorry about the problems with your son. NM - Kendra
                        • thank you - but it is better - he just graduated basic training Friday - - Amanda
                          • Glad to hear it! NM - Kendra
                    • I know we never not charged a parent for a visit - - Amanda
                      • so how do you think that children - Kendra
                        • I never meant to discuss the money - - Amanda
                          • not it's not, but that doesn't make it right. - Kendra
              • But the conversation is about kids who are having - wannie
                • my point was it is already happening - - Amanda
                  • I know and it's a sad state of affairs that is already - wannie
  • Exactly. And the government can stay out of my pocketbook.... - sam
  • Great post, Chele. I agree. Besides, - sm
  • I so agree! And even if it was not a moral issue, what about the medical issues (sm) - MeMT
    • There is more to it than that... - Kendra
      • Oh I totally agree with you nm - MeMT
  • amen. - nm
  • you are right - nm

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By AARON NICODEMUS, Standard-Times staff writer

NEW BEDFORD -- A senior at UMass Dartmouth was visited by federal agents two months ago, after he requested a copy of Mao Tse-Tung's tome on Communism called The Little Red Book.
Two history professors at UMass Dartmouth, Brian Glyn Williams and Robert Pontbriand, said the student told them he requested the book through the UMass Dartmouth library's interlibrary loan program.
The student, who was completing a research paper on Communism for Professor Pontbriand's class on fascism and totalitarianism, filled out a form for the request, leaving his name, address, phone number and Social Security number. He was later visited at his parents' home in New Bedford by two agents of the Department of Homeland Security, the professors said.
The professors said the student was told by the agents that the book is on a watch list, and that his background, which included significant time abroad, triggered them to investigate the student further.
I tell my students to go to the direct source, and so he asked for the official Peking version of the book, Professor Pontbriand said. Apparently, the Department of Homeland Security is monitoring inter-library loans, because that's what triggered the visit, as I understand it.
Although The Standard-Times knows the name of the student, he is not coming forward because he fears repercussions should his name become public. He has not spoken to The Standard-Times.
The professors had been asked to comment on a report that President Bush had authorized the National Security Agency to spy on as many as 500 people at any given time since 2002 in this country.
The eavesdropping was apparently done without warrants.
The Little Red Book, is a collection of quotations and speech excerpts from Chinese leader Mao Tse-Tung.
In the 1950s and '60s, during the Cultural Revolution in China, it was required reading. Although there are abridged versions available, the student asked for a version translated directly from the original book.
The student told Professor Pontbriand and Dr. Williams that the Homeland Security agents told him the book was on a watch list. They brought the book with them, but did not leave it with the student, the professors said.
Dr. Williams said in his research, he regularly contacts people in Afghanistan, Chechnya and other Muslim hot spots, and suspects that some of his calls are monitored.
My instinct is that there is a lot more monitoring than we think, he said.
Dr. Williams said he had been planning to offer a course on terrorism next semester, but is reconsidering, because it might put his students at risk.
I shudder to think of all the students I've had monitoring al-Qaeda Web sites, what the government must think of that, he said. Mao Tse-Tung is completely harmless.

Contact Aaron Nicodemus at anicodemus@s-t.com

the entire thread beginning with:

I try not to visit the bog of eternal stench. Funny though...sm

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Posted By: Nan on 2005-06-30,
In Reply to: Obviously they are not happy - American Girl

And Ending with:

Frankly, AG, they kind of give me the creeps. sm

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Posted By: Nan on 2005-06-30,
In Reply to: Man, Am I good or what? - American Girl

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