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well, gosh darm it, that makes me so happy

Posted By: mememe on 2008-10-13
In Reply to: Aww dang it! I looove polar bears. My boyfriend will fix that too! nm - AnonMT

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What makes me happy....(sm)

is knowing that someone who actually has a viable plan will be in charge for a while. 


There's that and the fact that you guys have such an aversion to this countdown that it's getting downright hilarious.  The usual poster for the countdown must be off today, so I posted in thier stead.  I didn't want you guys to go a whole day without something to gripe about.  ROFL.


I am a lifelong Democrat and this makes me happy, I am not voting for Obama sm
I honestly DO NOT care what color his skin is! I also don't really care that Sarah Palin doesn't have a dingle dangle between her legs either. These things do NOT matter.

I would not vote for Obama because as far as I am concerned, he thinks he stands for being a minority. We are headed into another Depression or at least recession. Education in this country is a sick joke. The housing market is crashing. On and on. It is a LOT of gloom and doom and I can't see where Obama stands on ANYTHING. Milquetoast all the way around.

I am not exactly a McCain fan. I met him in 1976, not so very long after he returned from Vietnam. I was a kid and he had a profound impact. I am NOT a Republican, I DO NOT like their platform and I am NOT a conservative...but by golly I will vote for him. I think he can do the job and I think he has ideas. Some of them are wrong to be sure, but he HAS SOME.

As for Sarah Palin, she is not afraid of much I suspect. She wasn't afraid to bring a Down syndrome child into the world and commit to raising him. She had young ones at home, but that didn't stop her going up for office. Fearless and gutsy, brave and standing behind her convictions, such as no abortions...yes I can respect her even if I don't agree with her.

I looked at a picture of her and I saw someone who will likely BE president, and not the VP in the fullness of time. I saw a REAL woman, not a fake, not a politician. Can she be president without making mistakes? No, but no one else can either. She knows what it is to run a household, so yes I think she can run the country. A woman can tell you it is just the same, only bigger and that isn't important to please all the children all the time, but to get the job DONE.
Really? Gosh.......
Then where to all those lesbos and homos get their biological children? Immaculate conception? But Mr. Phelps says God hates us.
Egads
oh my gosh
just take the post about Bob the Builder for what it was--amusing. Calm down. It is okay if everyone doesn't agree with you. In fact, I bet everyone DISagrees with you on something.
Oh....my.....gosh.....sm
And I thought some of the comments on this board get out of hand from time to time.

Well, ladies, I went to Youtube to see Obama's radio/video address today, and I started to read the comments....some Obama supporter (I hesitate to call him a fruitcake or nut job, for fear of retaliation)....but he is a loon....


He called someone else who left an opinion, the "c---" word....oh....my....gosh....I feel kinda dirty right about now....


I do hope that if Obama continues to post his addresses on video on youtube, that they have someone monitor the comments, or close them altogether. That type of response does no one any good, Obama supporter or nonsupporters....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqXqZv-whis&feature=channel

My gosh - you really can't let it go, can you - nm
//
My gosh...we are over it
Somehow I don't think you've come to terms with it. We all know he won. But don't presume to tell us "get behind YOUR president". I doubt you were standing behind Bush. The traitors are in the office now. The patriots like Rush Limbaugh and other republicans have a voice and it doesn't sound like many are happy that we don't want to see the country destroyed. I guess you'd rather us all sit back and enjoy the road to he!!.

Also the Declaration of Independence clearly states "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." - So in your own words... "Get behind it or stand with the biggest traitors of all".

You've also don't have a keen eye for mathematics. In case you don't realize we are going to have another election in 2012. So while Obama may be the present for the next 4 years your a bit premature that he will win the next election, and at the rate he's going? You better stick to 4 rather than "assume".
My gosh...we are over it
Somehow I don't think you've come to terms with it. We all know he won. But don't presume to tell us "get behind YOUR president". I doubt you were standing behind Bush. The traitors are in the office now. The patriots like Rush Limbaugh and other republicans have a voice and it doesn't sound like many are happy that we don't want to see the country destroyed. I guess you'd rather us all sit back and enjoy the road to he!!.

Also the Declaration of Independence clearly states "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." - So in your own words... "Get behind it or stand with the biggest traitors of all".

You've also don't have a keen eye for mathematics. In case you don't realize we are going to have another election in 2012. So while Obama may be the present for the next 4 years your a bit premature that he will win the next election, and at the rate he's going? You better stick to 4 rather than "assume".
Oh, gosh
some of these twits do not understand you just took a metaphor and gave it a twist.  I guess they don't get out much, either.  It's called sarcasm, people.  Work with us here! 
But gosh,
he was decrying all the pork in the stimulus package wasn't he?  You don't mean he was lying????  I must have misheard what he was saying.
Gosh!

And here we all thought the correct way was:  ''way more clearer.''  Wow!  You write real good!


It's in several of the posts, don't you see it? OH MY GOSH!!! SM
You can't see the WORD Christian now!  It was in Yepper's post, which is what I was really talking about but you really cares?
Good gosh!!!!

I don't know what to do about this election folks!!!! I'm scared of McCain..and I'm just not sure about Obama either....time is running out..


Scared of McCain because he seems to be a bit of a hot head..and Obama is scary because its almost cult like with him...


I know...research...but its just becoming too overwhelming...


I get this mental picture of terrorists licking their chops savoring the thought that USA is going to be prone for another attack..after this election just to test the resolve of the President..whoever that will be..


I worry about economics but I am more afraid of an attack within the USA...I want someone who will strike fear in our enemies...These terrorists are not the kind of people I picture sitting and discussing differences over a conference table...


Research today and see where I lean to...


Gosh darn it!
Oh, thanks for enlightening me -- I HATE TO BREAK IT TO YOU, BUT I KNOW GAY MEN PRODUCE SPERM.  but they need an egg to produce a child (DS)!!!  I feel as if I am posting in romper room here.  Good grief! 
Gosh darnit. There you go, sam,
For every mudball hurled by the right, there should be one hurled back in response. We learned that from the right-wing swiftboating tactics of days gone by. Obama's ads are issues oriented and are aimed at contrasting the differences between the candidates on those issues. McCain has been erratic, impulsive and basically clueless up to this point on the bail out. I see nothing wrong in pointing that out since he was the one who made himself look so stupid. Obama and others had already explored the possibility of buying up bad mortgages during the negotiations for the bailout bill before McCain announced his claim to the idea in the debate.

McCain's ads are character assignations, void of political content. They play on fear and seek to incite anger, generate hatred and ignite cultural wars, plain and simple. Obama's ads deal with issues and facts. There is a difference.

Obama said nothing about not helping homeowers, you did. Before the crisis even emerged, Obama had included plans in his economic policies to protect homeowners. He didn't flip on anything. you are just trying to misconstrue the facts to make it look like he did. This tactic will not win any elections. By the way, Obama is not the only one who thinks that the "bad lenders" should be punished. Before it's over, they should face their day in court.

I am still patiently waiting for you to elighten us all on just how McCain will "fix" the economy.
Now, gosh darnit, there you go again.
already copyrighted anal in 2000.
OH MY GOSH would you chill?
I asked you a question! That is all!

So in your line of thinking I can say whatever I want to on here and no one should be able to question me and I shouldn't have to prove a thing????

In that case...Obama is an alien from another world and Biden is too. They were sent here by their leader to take over the USA. Shortly after winning the election they plan to set off nukes to every major nation on the planet including the USA and blowing us out of the universe. But first they will round up the women and children and take them back to their home planet of Vogoron where they will be used as servants for the royal household.

It's a fact. I said so.


Gosh darn right!
nm
Gosh darnit. There you go again.
unfounded accusations. An MT should not have to be breaking down grammatical structures to other MTs to make themselves understood, but if you insist, here goes.

"Don't follow links..." is an example of imperative (mood) sentence. In this context, the subject of the sentence is implied. You have reckoned/assumed the subject to be "You", as in a command when, in fact, the intended subject was "I", meaning "I don't follow links..." My mistake. I was exending the assumption that those who read the post had the intelligence to figure that out. Next time, I will remember that when O haters are in the audience, I have to spell everything out.

Naturally, I think O supporters are perfectly capable of thinking for themselves and free to respond in kind with their own take on the link. They don't need my help to defend their own positions and certainly don't need to be shielded from pitifully impotent propaganda. Wouldn't hold my breath on that, though. With the election winding down and the odds stacked so heavily in our favor, it is likely you will see less and less of us up here on this forum. Our work here is done.
Oh gosh, that was nothing compared
to watching my husband listen to any Democrat, ever.  He turns red and interrupts constantly.  Eventually I shush him and he stomps out of the room, muttering under his breath all the while.  Then he's mad at me.   At least Rush is civil. 
Oh my gosh. They keep calling you because of people

like me who voted as registered dems in the primary.  The Bradley efffect is alive and well.  Of course, only registered dems would answer their phones during the dinner hour.  :)  Republicans can afford voice mail.


Well, I'll be gosh danged!! s/m

I'm about 50 miles north of Fort Smith now up Highway 59, about 15 miles from Stilwell!!  You'll have to let me know if you get back  here and maybe we can get together.


Yes, Wal-Mart is good for the economy in NW Arkansas, I'll admit to that but their workers aren't treated anywhere near as well as when Sam was alive.  Most as I understand it get food stamps and Medicaid and Wal-Mart gets all kinds of concessions in order to get them to build stores that most certainly aren't available to small businesses.  They effectively make it near impossible for small businesses to  stay in business.  There's rumors that they're going to build a store in my area and the local grocery store said if that happens they will be out of business.  The reason isn't prices, it's the small guy can't carry all the stuff Wal-Mart carries.  He can and will special order, which he does for me all the time, but most people want everything NOW.


Gosh: Hukabee had a special on TV
I'm sorry I missed it because I as out when his program was on. I saw the tail end. I'm sure it was interesting. If anyone knows of a link or something I can go to to see his whole program, please post a link. I'd really like to see what it was all about.
Gosh, why don't you read the post
No one said assassination attempts do not occur. Try reading the post again slowly and sound out the big words.

My gosh - it's like being back in kindergarten
My niece and nephews have better manners.

It's been awhile since I wrote that, so thanks for the reply.
I dont want to make fun of him, but gosh, he did
nm
For gosh sakes, the media, they always

lie, don't they?  Widely reported over, over, over, over, and over again that it was people who got loans who made 14,000 a year who "qualified" for a $750,000 mortgage and when the creative financing (i.e., interest rates went up) went belly up, they couldn't even pay the interest.  Those debtors didn't spend their way to prosperity.


Give me a break.  It is now people who have lost their jobs who were paying their mortgages who can no longer pay their mortgages.  Going to be a lot more, too.


Hats off to Barney Frank and his ilk. 


 


Oh my gosh... let's call out the guard!!

Found this on a web site reporting tea party in front of the white house yesterday....


"Protesters even threw what appeared to be a box of tea bags toward the White House, causing a brief lockdown at the compound." 


 


 


Gosh, I've always been quite proud
of my hazel eyes.  Sure, I was born with that color, can't take credit for them, but still I think they're much nicer than, say, blue or brown eyes.  I'm also pretty pumped about my great vision and hearing. 
Gosh, this site might not be safe since you have IP information!!!

how does it feel?


My gosh!, it was a far left loon replacing
not give her a chance to say a word! Good for her for walking out!! Bet Sean was patting her on the back.
Gosh, you've lost me on this, please fill me in.
Dont know about the 1600 or what this is reference to. Thanks.
For gosh sakes. I was not attributing statements

to NP. It was satire. It popped into my head. I could just picture her standing in front of a mother saying that.


Lighten up a little.


Oh my gosh - the Clinton years were the worst
I have never seen such horrible horrible times as the Clinton years. It was awful, awful, awful. DH and I both worked full time. We both had excellent salaries but we could never get ahead. We didn't live life in the rich lane - a 1 bedroom apartment (no washer dryer) in a hole-in-the-wall complex. A Ford Taurus (so not a fancy car). I don't own any diamonds or furs and my clothes were bought at the local Walmart, Sears or stores like that. No children, no college education to pay off and we had absolutely nothing. Clinton's tax increases raised our taxes so high that we were paying out 38% in taxes and even then at the end of the year we always owed an extra $2000. Everyone kept telling us to buy a house and get all these great "benees". In SF? Right! We couldn't afford to go out to eat never mind buy a house and when we did try to apply for a loan we were turned down. On top of that my family and friends back east were losing their jobs (thank you NAFTA). Family freinds were losing their homes because they lost their jobs and they were starting to live in their cars. My dad took in a couple he knew because they were living in a campground and winter came and it got too cold to stay in their tent. It wasn't until Clinton got out of office that our taxes went down, we were able to save some money, get a better place to live, and go out to eat with family and start to enjoy life a little more. The economy may be bad now, but we're in better shape than we were when Clinton's were in. Now we're terrified we're going to be back into the same exact sitaution. We're certainly not in great shape here, so anything worse would put us in a bad situation but luckily we rent so can move if we have to. But the economy needs a lof of work. We have no health insurance (unless you want to call having a policy that you have to pay 10K/year first before the insurance company will pitch in), DH is out of work and we just take one day at a time. All I know is most everyone I know (family, friends, and acquantances of my family) say they may have thought Clinton to be a good looking guy, but they have been better off financially since he left office.
My gosh--stop the personal bashing...
I thought liberals fancied themselves empathetic and thought conservatives were the hate mongers!
My gosh--stop the personal bashing...
I thought liberals fancied themselves empathetic and think conservatives are the hate mongers!
Gosh, you are funny! You should try to make more money as a comedian on SLN..nm
nm
You have it opposite! It's HUMAN rights at stake... gosh! duh
nm
Happy 4th to you too MT -
...and to everyone! I feel it an appropriate time to remember...I LOVE AMERICA...sappy but true:)Not even THEY can spoil that, ya know.

Happy comet watching! Here's a link for anyone interested in seeing the collision:

http://www.space.com/deepimpact/


http://www.space.com/deepimpact/
So happy here
Bunch of corrupt individuals..Frist is waiting in the wings.
Oh Happy Day






Sunday, Oct. 02, 2005
Power Outage
House leader Tom DeLay's indictment upends the Republicans' to-do list and their outlook for next year's elections. Can they recover in time?

The news that House Majority Leader Tom DeLay had been dreading for months was brought by an aide, who interrupted DeLay's weekly lunch with Dennis Hastert in the House Speaker's office. DeLay absorbed it, and then the man widely called the Hammer on Capitol Hill (though rarely to his face) did what he does best: he hit back. All right, DeLay replied. Let's go. Let's go fight. Less than three hours later, before a roomful of reporters, DeLay addressed a Texas grand jury's charge that he and two political associates conspired to funnel $155,000 in illegal corporate campaign contributions into Texas legislative races. He called it one of the weakest, most baseless indictments in American history and the prosecutor who brought the case a partisan fanatic. That night, anxious to show he's not a recluse, he introduced Rudy Giuliani at a Friends of Israel banquet. DeLay even made an uncharacteristic round of the cable shows, hinting darkly on cnn that he would soon produce very good evidence that his nemesis, Travis County district attorney Ronnie Earle, had engaged in a conspiracy of his own--with the Democratic leadership here in Washington.

Combativeness has seen Tom DeLay through near-death experiences before, but on the Hill late last week, it was hard to miss the signs that his foot soldiers and allies had begun positioning themselves in anticipation of his demise. G.O.P. rules require that DeLay, 58, majority leader since 2003, relinquish his post while he fights the conspiracy charge, and speculation is rife that even if he is acquitted his days as one of the most powerful men in the House could be over. You leave a job like this, there is no coming back, says a top Republican official who likes DeLay and thinks he will be cleared. Politics abhors a vacuum more than anything else, and it's going to move past him too quickly.

Almost immediately, it did. A plan engineered by DeLay and Hastert to install complaisant Rules Committee chairman David Dreier as temporary majority leader was nixed by conservatives who dislike Dreier's moderate positions on stem-cell research and gay marriage. Instead the brain trust installed ambitious whip Roy Blunt, who will share some of the majority leader's duties with Dreier. The setup is so shaky that some House Republicans are pressing for the election of a new leadership team as early as January.

Meanwhile, lobbying shops that had traded on the access to DeLay were desperately dialing House aides to forge new relationships. Those not tied to DeLay were calling the same staff members to gloat. There's millions of dollars on the table, said an aide who had heard from both camps. These guys are going to slaughter each other. What's left of the G.O.P. leadership, already beset by a raft of other political problems, was trying to figure out how to salvage the ambitious legislative agenda of more tax cuts, hurricane help and gas-price relief that they want to carry them to next year's midterm elections--a more difficult challenge with the sidelining of the man who had so determinedly pulled off many of their close victories.

DeLay may not have seen the worst of it yet. Sources tell TIME that while Earle was closing in on DeLay from Austin, Texas, a federal investigation into the spreading scandal around disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff, accused with Michael Scanlon (a former press secretary of DeLay's) of bilking their Indian-tribe clients out of $66 million, has begun lapping at the edges of the former majority leader's operation. A former Abramoff associate who was questioned by the FBI in August says, They had a lot of e-mails, a lot of traffic between our office and DeLay's office. Many of those exchanges involved lavish travel by DeLay arranged by the lobbyist but requested, the e-mails suggest, by aides in DeLay's office. (House members are allowed to accept gifts under limited circumstances but not to solicit them.) Says the source: There was nothing I saw that hit DeLay personally, but there was a lot of questionable stuff that was going on with his staff. 'Tom wants this. Tom wants that.' Was it really him or just the staff that was being aggressive? DeLay's office wouldn't comment on the Justice Department investigation, and neither would the FBI.

Republicans had plenty of problems even before the latest blow to DeLay. Voters are angry about gas prices, the war in Iraq and the botched response to Hurricane Katrina. Polls show President George W. Bush at or near the lowest public-approval ratings of his presidency. On the other side of the Capitol, Senate majority leader Bill Frist faces an investigation by the Securities and Exchange Commission into the circumstances surrounding his decision to sell all of his stock in the hospital chain founded by his family, Hospital Corporation of America, in June, just before the share price dropped following a bad earnings report.

So dispirited are Republicans that some worry about losing control of the House--a danger that once seemed remote. We're looking in the crystal ball. We're moving into an area where we don't know what will happen, says deputy whip Tom Cole, a conservative from Oklahoma. With a switch of only 15 seats required to end their majority, Cole is anxious that the party may have to contest as many as 100 tight races if the winds arraying against it turn into a national backlash like the one that ended the Democrats' 40-year reign in 1994. Having seen how the Democrats failed to galvanize their voters in that campaign, Republicans say the chief goal in rewriting their strategy for the fall will be to re-energize their base. The plan taking shape calls for a robust conservative agenda through next spring, including a tax-reform package. That move would allow Republicans to pivot back to issues like education tax credits that would appeal more to moderates as the elections approach.

As for DeLay, his struggles appear likely to consume him for many months. He has launched what amounts to a major political campaign to convince supporters that the indictment is flimsy and he is a victim of a political smear. DeLay pointed to Democrats' vow to use G.O.P. ethics as a campaign issue, and supporters noted criticism of Earle in Texas for speaking in May to a $100,000 fund raiser for a Democratic political action committee (PAC). But DeLay has produced no evidence Earle conspired with Democrats in Washington.

While it's true that Earle and DeLay have been locked in a complicated war of Texas-size egos for years, the charges against DeLay are fairly simple. During the 2002 elections, a committee DeLay founded to support conservative politicians--Texans for a Republican Majority, or TRMPAC--allegedly accepted $155,000 in corporate donations and then included that in a check for $190,000 to the Republican National Committee, which then routed a similar amount to seven Texas legislative candidates. DeLay's lawyers say the transactions were separate and that the PAC accepted money from both individuals and corporations. The contribution helped produce six wins that were crucial to DeLay's political ambitions in Washington because they resulted in a Republican majority in the state legislature, which redrew congressional district lines and helped add five more Republicans to the state's congressional delegation. If convicted, DeLay faces up to two years in prison and a maximum fine of $100,000.

DeLay has done his best to paint the D.A. as a Democratic loose cannon. But Earle, 63, points out that of the 15 public officials he has prosecuted, 12 have been fellow Democrats. Texas law makes it a felony for corporations and labor unions to contribute money to political campaigns, Earle tells TIME. My job is to prosecute felonies. I'm doing my job. The grand jury foreman, William Gibson, 76, insists that this was not one of those rubber-stamp deals. Ronnie Earle did not indict Mr. DeLay. Twelve people on that grand jury voted to indict.

If DeLay has cause for hope, it may be that Earle has been more successful convicting minor figures than major ones. The majority leader has put together a legal team headed by Dick DeGuerin, who handed Earle the most spectacular failure of his career: a 1994 misconduct case against former state treasurer Kay Bailey Hutchison that Earle was forced to drop on the first day of trial. Hutchison is now the state's senior Senator.

There are those who predict that DeLay will be able to balance mounting a defense with pulling strings behind the scenes in the House. But whereas he had been accustomed to just stepping downstairs to the majority leader's spacious suite of Capitol offices after a House vote, dusk last Thursday afternoon found DeLay outside on the Capitol Plaza, waiting at a traffic light to return to his office in the Cannon House Office Building across the street. Just like any other Congressman.


Happy day
I have been a vegetarian for more than 30 years and am also pro Native American.  I have not celebrated Thanksgiving for many years.  However, I do celebrate a day of getting together with family and friends and a day of appreciation..So, to all my liberal friends/co-posters..**Happy Day**..There are truly better days coming..
Happy 4th to Everyone!

I hope we never forget that brave American soldiers fought and died for our freedom to post on this very board!  Here's hoping that we all still have the same freedoms in the USA next year this time as we have today. 


My flag is hanging proudly.  I hope you all have a wonderful day.


Happy 4th to you and everyone!

She sure does not seem happy about it.sm
JMHO but to me it is hands off unless invited.
I'm happy s/m

To see that a couple of people will stand up with me.  This nation was founded on the principals of Christianity.  We kicked God out of our schools, courthouses and everywhere else a few thought He should go and look where we are now.  Kids killing each other in the schools, etc. etc. Now I hear they want to take "In God We trust" off of our money.  And my further opinion.........these radical evangelicals who think that anyone who says, "Lord, Lord" must be a Bible thumping Christian, have done more to turn people away from God than the other way around.   No wonder we're in such a mess. 


For anyone who wants to jump on this as "religion"....well don't.  I don't propose that anyone who doesn't want to turn to God be forced to do so but I do believe that it is high time that Christians.....or those who follow Christ (or try to)... stand up and be heard.  AND I believe when enough of us do that, God will lead us.  Again....this is my opinion and I'm not talking about "religion," I'm talking about those of us who have accepted Jesus Christ as our Savoir.  He gave us a choice to accept Him or reject Him and I don't believe he would want us to cram him down anyone's throat who does not want to be a believer.


I'm off my stump now.


Am I happy?

I must admit that I am not happy about Barrack Obama winning.  I do still have some fear because it seems like there is so much about him that we do not know.  I still worry about his inexperience as well.


However, I hope he is successful as president.  I don't wish him to fail because if he fails.....we all fail.  I hope he is a wonderful president who can bring us out of our crisis.  We will just have to wait and see. 


Just because I'm worried and scared of what is to come....doesn't mean I won't give him a chance.  I will give him a chance and hope and pray that I was wrong about him all along, but until he proves to me that I am wrong....I'm still naturally going to be worried, nervous, scared, etc.  That doesn't make me unpatriotic or a radical republican.  It makes me human.


I'm not happy
I'm not happy about any assassination talk about anyone. I would be MORE upset if McCain/Palin had been LYING about Obama, but they were not.

The original article talks about there always being a surge in this type of activity after every election. There is more of a surge this time because Obama is African-American. I'm pretty sure they saw that coming. I'm also pretty sure the Secret Service can deal with it.

End of discussion.


Hey, I'm happy to have someone
else munching on crow alongside me.  LOL  Have a Happy Crow Eating Day!
Why are you happy about this? Why would be want
nm
What I'm happy about is
not to be living in such a black and white world. This is not a question of whether or not you respect Obama. This is about the knee-jerk hatred expressed by sore losers. Just because W has earned such deep and broad disapproval (the kindest word I can think of) and has taught us all that we cannot trust government, does not mean that we have the right to assume that Obama cannot and will not take us to a higher level and get us back in touch with who we really are.

He may not have earned your respect, but he DOES deserve to have his chance. You don't want to come out of the darkness and into the light? Fine. Hunker on down in that dark damp dungeonof yours, but please stop trying to drag te rest of us down there with you.