what you believe

Posted By: valuevoter on 2008-08-29
In Reply to: Well, first, I don't believe that; but, let's for a moment.... - sam

is relevant only to you. You are entitled to your own OPINIONS, you are not entitled to your own FACTS.

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Finally, a party that will put a woman in power - Go McCain and Palin
- It's ignorance like that -----that can really screw up - this country even more.
- I'm a woman, and supported Hillary 'til I heard Obama - several times. And he's better.
- I'm ecstatic! - Emily Ayn
  - So playing the gender card to get votes - OK by you?
    - It was ok for hillary supporters in the millions... - sam
      - In a word, no. Besides that, it didn't work for them - Did it? Now they're taking it to other side.
        Yep, let's. :-) nm - sam
        You want 'em, you can have 'em, - We don't need 'em anymore. nm
      - You can't speak for all of us. As a woman, - This picks feels like exploitation for some. nm
        I'm hearing that a lot today - sm
        And you are entitled to that....although... - sam
        On face value, no exploitation. But - Mccain's motives? Distinct possibility. nm
        Well....I look at it this way. whatever his motivations... - sam
        Qualified to lead the country? How? - Please explain. nm
        She has more executive experience than the #1 candidate on the other ticket... - sam
        This is a load of malarky. - Ridiculous.
        Executive experience = running a government... - sam
        Fact.....not malarky. nm - Chele
        Where do you get your "facts"? - Because they're wrong.
    - Is it any different than the race card? - Old part-timer
      - Either one sucks. Politics at its worse. - No matter who plays them. nm
    - that's your opinion - Emily Ayn
      - Dems are also ecstatic over this pick. - Not scared in the least. nm
        GREAT!! That makes ALL of us!! :-) - sam
        Historical moment. We have come together - On this issue. LMAO. nm
        LOL! (nm) - sam
- Some preliminary fact gathering on Sara who? - see message
  - Slimy trooper - live it
    - Abuse of power/hypocrisy seems to be - Perfectly justified to republicans. P-U. sm
  - She's under investigation by her state for corruption and McCain still picks her? - that's desparation for HC voters! (nm)
    - here is that story... - sam
      - And the jury's still out on that one. - Must think the charges are worth looking into. nm
        Perhaps....and perhaps it is a witch hunt.... - sam
        then again, perhaps it's abuse of power like - The Mccains druggie thing. Bird of a feather nm
        wait a minute there - bluestraveler
        Agreed. It's abuse of power AND a crime - Rx fraud, perjury, intl transport, etc...nm
    - Bingo! Desperation. - That's the name of the game. nm
  - well....number one bashes humble beginnings... - sam
    - I think what she meant by the last comment - sm - Kiki
      - This is how: - Emily Ayn
        I never sais I was for either - sm - Kiki
        Everything is up to Him :) - Emily Ayn
      - I posted the story above....about the firing... - sam
        See my response above. And you are right - sm - Kiki
    - Facts are facts. No bash intended. - Feeling a little touchy, are we?
      - She has more experience than your #1 chair... - sam
        Show us how her experience is "more" than Obama's. - She served herself while she was at it. sm
        She has an 80% approval rating in Alaska... - sam
        McCain seems to have a thing for - Stepford wives.
        Let's just get it down to bare facts... - sam
        Yes, let's. What happened to all that - Ready to lead the country argument? sm
        She has none of those people that we know of ... sm - Kiki
        Can we have her for pres instead of VP? LOL - nm
        Maybe she will run for the top spot in 4 years...who knows?? - sam
        In your drams. That will be round 2 - For Obama.
        Maybe so, maybe not. Time will tell, won't it. In the meantime...you aren't raining on my pa - sam
        Ummm...Which America would that be? - nm
- I'll be happy when I find out more ... sm - Kiki
  - I wouldn't either. I wasn't going to vote for HC. - Go McCain and Palin
    - I wasn't/didnt vote for HC either - sm - Kiki
- Just read public comments on other websites...republicans are upset...sm - oh my
  - what websites? I'd love to read them - nm
    - Got to wherever they have the news and read people's comments...sm - ...
      - MSNBC? Well, that explains it (nm) - Go McCain and Palin
        Explains what? That there are 2 sides to a story? - Or,3,4,5+. That's what democracy looks like.
  - We shall see. I never put much faith in blogs... - sam
- Veep - gourdpainterg
  - Ever heard of Barack Hussein Obama before he started running? - Emily Ayn
    - Started paying attention to Obama right after - His remarkable, inspiring DNC keynote speech 2004.
      - Yep, just like the DNC wanted you to... - sam
    - Veep - gourdpainterg
    - Is there a particular reason you used his full name ... sm - micki
      - no that wasn't my point - Emily Ayn
      - Obama - and what?
        oh give me a break! - Emily Ayn
    - Excellent point! No one had heard of him until the last... - sam
      - Which was 4 years ago.... - Not 4 hours ago like what's-her-name. nm
  - I invite you to go learn who she is... - sam
    - Veep - gourdpainterg
  - Never heard of her either. Not a Republican but would not - ss
    - just as i hope African American's aren't voting for Obama for that reason! - Emily Ayn
    - I would be glad to learn more about her, so I will, but briefly - ss
      - She also served in city council and mayor... - sam
    - No, hard line Democrats probably won't... - sam
      - Not according to what the public is saying out there...women are upset...sm - nope
        McCain wasn't desperate and wasn't behind in the polls - Go McCain and Palin
        We'll see how it plays out....like I said and like I have seen soooooo many of you post regarding - sam
- VP pick - sm
- desperate attempt - valuevoter
  - We all know why he picked her..... - AMEN!!! My sentiments exactly
    - And Obama IS? He dissed a woman for the VP slot... - sam
      - What woman did he diss? sm - micki
        Yes, it was Hillary Clinton. She had said, after the primaries... - sam
  - She was picked loooong before the - convention.....good for him!....nm
  - The ones I have seen interviewed will... - sam
    - Even Geraldine Ferraro seemed happy about a female on the ticket! - Go McCain and Palin
      - And so she should be. I am not a Hillary fan... - sam
    - dat's cause - valuevoter
- But a VP should also be ready to be commander-in-chief should something...sm - HUH????
  - She has as much experience as Obama.... - sam
    - Saying it don't make it so. Back up your claim - that her experience is "more" than Obama'
      - She has 12 months in an executive position, actually running a government... - sam
    - experience versus wisdom - valuevoter
      - Perhaps not everyone shares your view....as to the - sam
        actually - valuevoter
        I sincerely thank you, and I don't mean that in a sarcastic way at ALL. - sam
        high five! - valuevoter
  - She's the only one of the four with executive experience - Go McCain and Palin
- You bet!! I was SO hoping it would go this way.... - sam
  - Here's hoping - valuevoter
    - That is the best thing you - OMG
      - OMG - valuevoter
        If my husband - OMG
        oh my, a whole - valuevoter
    - Well, first, I don't believe that; but, let's for a moment.... - sam
      - Correct! - ginger
      - what you believe - valuevoter
        Right back a ya, vv. LOL. I know it hurts... - sam
  - Yes! Finally I feel someone who represents me! - Go McCain and Palin
    - Isn't she pretty? - mtstudent
      - She is perfect! She cleaned up corruption in her own party... - sam
      - Yes.. and she's a marathoner, hockey player, hunter and fisherman! - Go McCain and Palin
    - Yep. It is our turn to be inspired. They need to book her a stadium.... - sam
      - remembered of the 2008 dem conv - And this is what will be
      - go for it! - valuevoter
        PASS. I like it where i am...also great....I am so proud of McCain... - sam
        sigh - valuevoter
        Right back at ya! Come over here where women.... - sam
        thanks but - valuevoter

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