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Believe it's Hartmann I (Roman numeral). nm

Posted By: nm on 2006-05-19
In Reply to: About Hartmann procedure - SM please - Laura

Subject: Believe it's Hartmann I (Roman numeral). nm

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He keeps saying "Hartmann One (or I??) procedure.  I can find documentation on a Hartmann procedure but can't find anything on a Hartmann One (or Hartmann I)procedure.


Could someone kindly enlighten my fried brain???


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