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Used to be roman numerals, now it is 2/6.

Posted By: nope on 2008-12-27
In Reply to: heart murmur with roman numerals? - LHMT

Subject: Used to be roman numerals, now it is 2/6.

NP does not know transcription rules.


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Have always seen it as Roman numerals. nm
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Subject: as I know it all stages are in roman numerals


I've always used Roman Numerals.
Subject: I've always used Roman Numerals.

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I believe the type is in Roman numerals II nm
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Through Wheeless it would be Roman numerals.
Subject: Through Wheeless it would be Roman numerals.


When I started, it was Roman Numerals
Subject: When I started, it was Roman Numerals

That was 30 years ago. Now they prefer Arabic numerals. I was rather disappointed; it was one of the few times you could trot out Roman numerals!

Roman numerals for stages are used
Subject: Roman numerals for stages are used

only for cancer the majority of the time. There are some exceptions, but the majority of the time it is roman numerals. For example, kidney disease is arabic, fractures are arabic. If it is not associated with cancer then it is more than likely arabic. You can always look it up and tell which is which, which is BOS2 suggests.
Certain conditions, etc. still use roman numerals
Subject: Certain conditions, etc. still use roman numerals

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Factors are written in roman numerals
Subject: Factors are written in roman numerals

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grades are numerals, stages always Roman
Subject: grades are numerals, stages always Roman

stage II-A but I don't know anything about that little *y* you left there - so I'd give them a blank there.........


stages are always roman numerals and grades are always numbers


stage IV, grade 4


Hope this helps somewhat - I've been doing oncology for 20 years..........next year....but MT'g for much longer  *lol*


Schatzker II fracture (Roman numerals for this)
Subject: Schatzker II fracture (Roman numerals for this)

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TIMI III (roman numerals) flow.......nm
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Cranial nerves are roman numerals II-XII. (nm)
Subject: Cranial nerves are roman numerals II-XII. (nm)

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aren't leads in Roman numerals?
Subject: aren't leads in Roman numerals?

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Subject: Stedman's says Roman numerals, such as Gravida I


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Subject: Not all stages are roman numerals, depends.

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heart murmur with roman numerals?
Subject: heart murmur with roman numerals?

I have always typed heart murmur (ex: 2/6 ejection murmur).  However, I have a new NP who states it using roman numerals (II/VI ejection murmur).  Which is correct?  Thanks!
Not sure, but cranial nerves are Roman numerals.
Subject: Not sure, but cranial nerves are Roman numerals.

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grade 2 to 3 (grades are roman numerals).
Subject: grade 2 to 3 (grades are roman numerals).

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grade 2 to 3 (grades are roman numerals).
Subject: grade 2 to 3 (grades are roman numerals).

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grades = numbers; stages = Roman numerals....
Subject: grades = numbers; stages = Roman numerals....


leads = Roman numerals if I remember correctly
Subject: leads = Roman numerals if I remember correctly


Wrong. Not all stages are roman numerals anymore.
Subject: Wrong. Not all stages are roman numerals anymore.

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jGrade is arabic such as grade 1, and stages are Roman numerals.
Subject: jGrade is arabic such as grade 1, and stages are Roman numerals.


Standard leads are typically denoted by roman numerals.
Subject: Standard leads are typically denoted by roman numerals.


III (stages and classes are Roman numerals, grades are Arabic) nm
Subject: III (stages and classes are Roman numerals, grades are Arabic) nm


A search of several web sites shows staging with numbers, not Roman numerals. nm
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Subject: Grades are arabic numbers and classes and stages are roman numerals.


I was always taught that types & grades are arabic and classes & stages are Roman numerals. nm
Subject: I was always taught that types & grades are arabic and classes & stages are Roman numerals. nm


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Table 2: Carcinoma of the Vulva – Stage grouping
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0 Tis N0 M0
IA T1A N0 M0
IB T1B N0 M0
II T2 N0 M0
III T1 N1 M0
T2 N1 M0
T3 N1 M0
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T3 N2 M0
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Roman numerals, but "lead" would be "Lead"
Subject: Roman numerals, but "lead" would be "Lead"

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use numerals only, not to be spelled out
Subject: use numerals only, not to be spelled out

according to BOS2..........
BOS now says numerals preferred, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. nm
Subject: BOS now says numerals preferred, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. nm

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Arabic numerals.
Subject: Arabic numerals.

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roman
Subject: roman


Roman - nm
Subject: Roman - nm

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roman
Subject: roman

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I have a question about numerals in a report (sm)
Subject: I have a question about numerals in a report (sm)

I have an old copy of AAMT BOS (copyright 1995) and QA sent me something like the below.  "He is to follow up with me for post hospitalization follow up within "1 to 2 weeks" after discharge."  I had originally transcribed it as "one to two weeks."  He goes on to state "Per AAMT BOS, use numerals almost exclusively, rather than spelling out the numbers."  Did that change in the new newer book?  TIA
It's because they want to pay less. Numerals are shorter than writing out.
Subject: It's because they want to pay less. Numerals are shorter than writing out.


You're right. BOS says numerals with the exceptions sm
Subject: You're right. BOS says numerals with the exceptions sm

you mentioned plus when two numbers come together, such as

"The patient will take two 2-mg tablets per day."

You wouldn't transcribe it as "2 2-mg tablets."

For chondromalacia, what numerals are you referring to? Thanks
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it is probably 2, usually Arabic numerals w/grades, but that is JMO NM
Subject: it is probably 2, usually Arabic numerals w/grades, but that is JMO NM


Use arabic numerals for all numbers.
Subject: Use arabic numerals for all numbers.

The current standard in transcription is to use arabic numerals (1, 2, 3...)for all numbers, even under the number 10, because they stand out on the page and are less likely to be overlooked or misinterpreted.
(BOS 3rd)
Been typing rad for yrs and have never used roman..
Subject: Been typing rad for yrs and have never used roman..

numerals.  Always arabic. 


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That's what I said: Stages = Roman. ???
Subject: That's what I said: Stages = Roman. ???

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I'm finding the regions and planes use numerals and
Subject: I'm finding the regions and planes use numerals and

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The letter "I" is roman numeral 1
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Believe it's Hartmann I (Roman numeral). nm
Subject: Believe it's Hartmann I (Roman numeral). nm

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grades use 1, 2, 3...stages use Roman
Subject: grades use 1, 2, 3...stages use Roman

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roman versus arabic
Subject: roman versus arabic

Does anyone have a good reference or way to remember when to use arabic versus roman numerals?  Specifically for class, stage, grade - cardiac, oncology, podiatry?