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Time format rules in BOS 3rd edition?

Posted By: ex-MQer on 2008-11-17
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Can anyone tell me what the specific rules are for time format in the new BOS on pages 337-339. A brief description would be great or u can scan and email it to me too, whichever is easier.

I do intend to buy my own soon but I have to wait till payday and I'm starting a new company right now that uses that book :(

TIA !


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Time format in BOS 3rd edition
Can anyone tell me what the specific rules are for time format in the new BOS on pages 337-339. A brief description would be great or u can scan and email it to me too, whichever.

I do intend to buy my own soon but I have to wait till payday. :(


Much appreciated !
Format rules in MT

Okay, I am an old gal working mostly ias in-hospital MT (VA, Teaching hospital), but I did also work off and on for MTSOs at home.   Now going back a long time, I was always taught that in formatting Problem Lists or Hospital Course by problem list you transcribe it this way.   Problem #1 - HYPERTENSION.  The patient is taking lisinopril currently.....  or if the doc did not say PROBLEM #1, then you transcribed it 1.  HYPERTENSION.  Blah, blah, blah.   When did this change and become wrong?  Most of the docs I am now transcribing for one of the major MTSOs now (left the hospital), actually ask that we capitalize the major problem.  Is this in the so-called AHDI BOS2? 


IMHO, using the capitalization on the problem is much easier to read, than this...


1.  Hypertension.  The blah, blah, blah..


2.  Diabetes mellitus type 2.  Uncontrolled.  Not compliant.


Any QAers out there can answer this one for this old school nitpicker?


3 months' time is the correct format
Subject: 3 months' time is the correct format


I would think that the 4th edition would override the 3rd edition
Subject: I would think that the 4th edition would override the 3rd edition


Regarding AAMT rules
Subject: Regarding AAMT rules

I go with my client preference, and when I began working his account, the sample reports did not use BOS rules. I only use numerals to express drug dosage, measurements, dates, etc. I also agree with you on the appearance of it.
number rules?
Subject: number rules?

Two of my teachers taught different number rules. One, said that they should almost always be numeral form. The other said that numbers are usually spelled out.
I believe the Book of Style says numerals are usually appropriate, accept for zero, at the beginning of a sentence, drug admin. abrev's., etc..
Anyone? Numerals right? With acceptions? I'm just starting.
I do agree with you, but it seems none of the rules fit this..
Subject: I do agree with you, but it seems none of the rules fit this..

BOS says if you can put "and" between the adjectives then use a comma, which in this case you really can't until btwn telangiectatic and vascular.  Just always second guessing myself. 


 


Thank you!!!!


IF you are to follow BOS rules...sm
Subject: IF you are to follow BOS rules...sm

The patient has Alzheimer disease.
She has Alzheimer's.

Don't use the apostrophe S when 'disease' follows.
But, that is the BOS rule. Your client and/or company may prefer it's own rule.

what time are we using here in mtStars? US time or India time?
Subject: what time are we using here in mtStars? US time or India time?


Well, CLIENT PREFERENCE rules.....sm
Subject: Well, CLIENT PREFERENCE rules.....sm

Always, always it's client preference.  I was just speaking in a BOS/AAMT ruling about numbers.  Client preference most definitely IS the bottom line. 
Help, I can't remember the hyphen rules.
Is there a hyphen with non-radiating and non-icteric, or all one word, or separated?  Thanks.  I'm an old dog and I don't want to learn new tricks. 
Rules for tense in a report?
I always thought it was past tense.  I have a doc who started the first 2 sentences using past tense and then suddenly switched to present test.  IV sedation IS administered, Patient IS positioned.  Do you change present to past or type as is?  Nothing in the CP about it.
Rules here per admin is No Testing..sm
Subject: Rules here per admin is No Testing..sm

hope you have a happy happy new year and good luck in your studies/testing 
thanks....lots of rules with numbers!
Subject: thanks....lots of rules with numbers!


Rules change over the years
Subject: Rules change over the years

but some rules are that way just because it sounds right. 5 centimeters were injected just sounds ignorant and I don't care who you are, as Larry the Cable Guy would say. ;-)
If your account doesn't have specific rules about it, sm

the correct way would be to write it out in full (Escherichia coli) whether or not it was dictated in full.  Then, if the dictator says E. coli after that, then it is correct to transcribe it that way.  If the dictator says it in full the next time, then transcribe it in full.  Check your account's guidelines for their preference. 


ALS is correct per AAMT rules. See cite.
I don't care whether the BOS is right or wrong on the issue. I have to use it and so do others. Here's what it says.

As per AAMT BOS 2nd edition page 189: Always capitalize genus names and their abbreviated forms when accompanied by species name. Lowercase genus names used in plural and adjectival forms and when used in the vernacular; for example, when they stand alone without a species name.
as poster above stated, I was going with BOS rules...relax! :) nm
Subject: as poster above stated, I was going with BOS rules...relax! :) nm


I think just the normal rules of English would apply
Subject: I think just the normal rules of English would apply

Whenever adding *ing* to a word that ends in t, you add an extra t.
A couple of grammar rules are at play here
Subject: A couple of grammar rules are at play here

First of all, both got and gotten are correct forms of the verb get.  However, got is a past tense or past participle depending on whether or not the word "has" or "have" is used in front of it.  Gotten, however, is past participle and should be used with the word "has" or "have" in front of it.


It has gotten increasingly larger - okay.  It gotten increasingly larger - not okay.  It got increasingly larger - okay.  It has got increasingly larger - okay.


So if your doc says it anyway but "It gotten increasingly larger", he is correct.  It's simply a matter of preference.  Brits don't generally use the word "gotten", and therefore, a lot of people think it is not a legitimate word, but it is.


Ringer. AAMT BOS2 rules on eponyms.
Subject: Ringer. AAMT BOS2 rules on eponyms.


I believe that is only if the company is compliant with JCHO rules. Not all companies are.
Subject: I believe that is only if the company is compliant with JCHO rules. Not all companies are.


By AAMT rules, need help with period with drug values. (sm)
Subject: By AAMT rules, need help with period with drug values. (sm)

Is this right?


1 gm


0.1 mg


1 mg


 


I was taught that it was 1.0 mg but doc wants it to be just 1 mg and 1 gm.


 


Help.  Thanks.


It is not 'erroneous', only add to the AAMT rules, which change every year!
Subject: It is not 'erroneous', only add to the AAMT rules, which change every year!

To say that the plural form decubiti for the singular of decubitus is
'erroneous' is plain BS !

And it is known that the AAMT, now it has another name, 'makes up' its own grammar rules for the MTing.

This issue has been discussed numerous times on this board and causes a lot of confusion for the MTs and arguments between MTs, QAs and the clients.

EVERY year the BOS rules are changed. We just got used to the BOS 2 and in December 08 the BOS 3 was issued, again with new rules to adhere. The price is around $ 90.--.


is it protime, pro-time, or spelled out prothrombin time? also, where did you find it.. i've look
Subject: is it protime, pro-time, or spelled out prothrombin time? also, where did you find it.. i've looked.

xx
with time are you supposed to put the word hour after the time, i.e. 1600 hours
Subject: with time are you supposed to put the word hour after the time, i.e. 1600 hours

nm
format
Subject: format

No.1 PDS or #1 PDS? Which is correct?
Format ?
Subject: Format ?

5/5 strength throughout sensation is intact.  So the 5/5 is not at the start of the sentence, how would you reword this phrase?


OB format for G 3, P 1-1-0-2
Subject: OB format for G 3, P 1-1-0-2

Is this how you type that?  I havn't heard it transcribed that way before... Thanks!
Format Help
Subject: Format Help

How do you type the name of a book? Italics or quotations? TIA
Format help
Subject: Format help

I have a dictator who constantly repeats words, phrases, entire sentences!  Do you transcribe it twice or if she has already stated it, leave it out? 
Format ?
Subject: Format ?

Would it be MEDICATIONS: Include


1.


2.


3.


 


H & P Format
Subject: H & P Format

Just when I think I have it on format - I don't.  The following is under PHYSICAL EXAMINATION.  What would the subheading be?



Patient walks to the right occasionally. She has trouble getting started because of discomfort. She can walk on heels and toes briefly. However, on a tandem walk she really has difficulty with that. She does not line up her toes easily, loses her balance very easily with that.   This is typed as dr. dictated. Suggestions would be appreciated. 


that would be two weeks' time. 's is singular (one week's time) and s' is pleural (two
Subject: that would be two weeks' time. 's is singular (one week's time) and s' is pleural (two weeks' time)

nm
pro time, no hypen, two words, as if your typing prothrombin time
Subject: pro time, no hypen, two words, as if your typing prothrombin time


2-5 and 1 or 2..........per BOS 2nd edition....nm
Subject: 2-5 and 1 or 2..........per BOS 2nd edition....nm


Abbreviation Format

Hi... Can someone tell me the correct format for what comes after this med in a dictation:  "Zarontin 250 mg 500 500 250 500?"  Is this 500 am, 500 mid-am, 250 afternoon, 500 bedtime?


Thanks! 


Abbreviation Format
Subject: Abbreviation Format

Thanks!  I thought that would be a mega-dose as well, but that's what she said.  I did "slash" them though. 
format question
Subject: format question

Do you put immunizations under the Social History section in a report or by themselves?  I'm not testing, just confused.  The doctor is dictating:  "All immunizations are up to date" under Social  History.  Thanks.
Format question...
Subject: Format question...

Hi, I'm wondering whether AAMT BOS says to type this:  "image #31 series 3" or this: "image #31, series 3."  Comma or no?


Thank you!  :D


Format question
Subject: Format question

This is so small I hate to ask, but everytime I type this it just looks odd no matter what way I type it and would like to know how another MT would type this. 


If someone has a dull aching sensation or sharp stabbing sensation would you hiphenate (dull-aching sensation) or slash (dull/aching sensation) or just leave it (dull aching sensation)?  Thanks for any input to my "stupid" question.  


I would say cecal and S1-S2 is how I format it...nm
Subject: I would say cecal and S1-S2 is how I format it...nm

s
number format
Subject: number format

When transcribing a very large number, "1 million 120 thousand" is it considered more acceptable to use words or just to stick to numbers? 
Format question
Subject: Format question

I was hoping someone might be able to give me the rule for this.....Should departments be capitalized?  For instance, "she saw University of Virginia orthopedics"  Should orthopedics be capitalized or not? I'm always confused about this:)


format question
Subject: format question

I was taught that if the "orthopedics" came after the name of the place, it should be capitalized (UoV Orthopedics). If not, it wouldn't be capitalized(orthopedic department at UoV). Please correct me if I'm wrong, anyone! :)
Punct? format?
Subject: Punct? format?


REVIEW OF SYSTEMS


He is 6 feet tall and weighs 260 pounds. His weight has been stable. No rashes. No problems with his eyes, ears, nose or mouth. Respiratory: he is positive for a smoker, half pack per day, with a smokers cough. Cardiovascular: has a history of hypertension. No GI/GU problems. Musculoskeletal is stated in the HPI. No neurological or hematological disorders.


Is this how this should be put in paragraph form with the Respiratory and Cardiovascular??


Radiology Format ??
Subject: Radiology Format ??


DUPLEX SCAN OF LEGS



Duplex scan of the arterioles system in the legs was performed and results are as follows:



RIGHT LEG: On the right side,


Is this layout correct? or is it


RIGHT LEG no colon? then drop down a line? Thanks


FYI-AAMT BOS, edition 2
Subject: FYI-AAMT BOS, edition 2

Just thought I would pass on some information recently sent to me.


AAMT BOS  (Book of Style), 2nd edition


periods
Do not use periods within or at the end of most abbreviations, including acronyms, abbreviated units of measure, and brief forms. Use a period at the end of abbreviated English units of measure if they may be misread without the period. Better still, write out most English units of measure, thereby avoiding this use of a period at the end of an abbreviation.


wbc
WBC
mg
exam
prep
inch preferred to in. (Do not use in meaning inch without a period.)


However, use periods in lowercase drug-related abbreviations.
b.i.d.
q.4 h. = note it is "q.4" and then a space before the "h."
p.o.
p.r.n.


If a sentence terminates with an abbreviation that requires a period, do not add another period.
He takes Valium 5 mg q.a.m.
not He takes Valium 5 mg q.a.m..


plurals
Use a lowercase s without an apostrophe to form the plural of capitalized abbreviations, acronyms, and brief forms.
EEGs
PVCs
CABGs
exams


Use 's to form the plural of lowercase abbreviations.
rbc's
Use 's to form the plural of single-letter abbreviations.
X's


Hyphens and adjectives


15-year-old boy
The patient is a 33-year-old.
2-year 5-month-old child (note no comma in this)
5-1/2-year-old girl
1-month course
.38-caliber pistol - note no leading zero here - see below
two-thirds full
one-half normal saline
half-normal saline
She was panic-stricken
20-pack-year history
self-medicated
shell-like
 
For quantities less than 1, place a zero before the decimal point, except when the number could never equal 1 (e.g., in bullet calibers and in certain statistical expressions such as correlation coefficients and statistical probability).
0.75 mg
.22-caliber rifle


 


2nd Edition BOS from 2002 pg 428
Subject: 2nd Edition BOS from 2002 pg 428

:p
You know what they can do with their 2nd edition (and their 135th if they get that far?)
Subject: You know what they can do with their 2nd edition (and their 135th if they get that far?)

Guess
Per AAMT 2nd edition...
Subject: Per AAMT 2nd edition...

AAMT recommends dropping the period. See page 190.