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as poster above stated, I was going with BOS rules...relax! :) nm

Posted By: flybye on 2006-03-10
In Reply to: 4 x 4's nm - flybye

Subject: as poster above stated, I was going with BOS rules...relax! :) nm




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O2 sat, not stat. It stands for saturation as this poster stated.
Subject: O2 sat, not stat. It stands for saturation as this poster stated.


relax Shirl - people forget they were once new too.
Subject: relax Shirl - people forget they were once new too.

I'm patient with newbies because I remember how tough it was for me being a newbie 28 years ago.  Feel free to email me with any questions now or in the future - just click on email in my post.


Folks, try to remember what it was like to be new in the world of medical transcription.  We should never forget from where we came......


Have a GREAT Sunday!!  .


 


These English words will get us all the time!! Glad you got it! Now I can relax. nm
Subject: These English words will get us all the time!! Glad you got it! Now I can relax. nm

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Exactly. Disk is preferred but disc is also correct. So RELAX, people!
Subject: Exactly. Disk is preferred but disc is also correct. So RELAX, people!

Have a margarita or something, willya?

Thanks for the cite, CG!
Regarding AAMT rules
Subject: Regarding AAMT rules

I go with my client preference, and when I began working his account, the sample reports did not use BOS rules. I only use numerals to express drug dosage, measurements, dates, etc. I also agree with you on the appearance of it.
number rules?
Subject: number rules?

Two of my teachers taught different number rules. One, said that they should almost always be numeral form. The other said that numbers are usually spelled out.
I believe the Book of Style says numerals are usually appropriate, accept for zero, at the beginning of a sentence, drug admin. abrev's., etc..
Anyone? Numerals right? With acceptions? I'm just starting.
I do agree with you, but it seems none of the rules fit this..
Subject: I do agree with you, but it seems none of the rules fit this..

BOS says if you can put "and" between the adjectives then use a comma, which in this case you really can't until btwn telangiectatic and vascular.  Just always second guessing myself. 


 


Thank you!!!!


IF you are to follow BOS rules...sm
Subject: IF you are to follow BOS rules...sm

The patient has Alzheimer disease.
She has Alzheimer's.

Don't use the apostrophe S when 'disease' follows.
But, that is the BOS rule. Your client and/or company may prefer it's own rule.

Format rules in MT

Okay, I am an old gal working mostly ias in-hospital MT (VA, Teaching hospital), but I did also work off and on for MTSOs at home.   Now going back a long time, I was always taught that in formatting Problem Lists or Hospital Course by problem list you transcribe it this way.   Problem #1 - HYPERTENSION.  The patient is taking lisinopril currently.....  or if the doc did not say PROBLEM #1, then you transcribed it 1.  HYPERTENSION.  Blah, blah, blah.   When did this change and become wrong?  Most of the docs I am now transcribing for one of the major MTSOs now (left the hospital), actually ask that we capitalize the major problem.  Is this in the so-called AHDI BOS2? 


IMHO, using the capitalization on the problem is much easier to read, than this...


1.  Hypertension.  The blah, blah, blah..


2.  Diabetes mellitus type 2.  Uncontrolled.  Not compliant.


Any QAers out there can answer this one for this old school nitpicker?


Well, CLIENT PREFERENCE rules.....sm
Subject: Well, CLIENT PREFERENCE rules.....sm

Always, always it's client preference.  I was just speaking in a BOS/AAMT ruling about numbers.  Client preference most definitely IS the bottom line. 
Help, I can't remember the hyphen rules.
Is there a hyphen with non-radiating and non-icteric, or all one word, or separated?  Thanks.  I'm an old dog and I don't want to learn new tricks. 
Rules for tense in a report?
I always thought it was past tense.  I have a doc who started the first 2 sentences using past tense and then suddenly switched to present test.  IV sedation IS administered, Patient IS positioned.  Do you change present to past or type as is?  Nothing in the CP about it.
Rules here per admin is No Testing..sm
Subject: Rules here per admin is No Testing..sm

hope you have a happy happy new year and good luck in your studies/testing 
thanks....lots of rules with numbers!
Subject: thanks....lots of rules with numbers!


Rules change over the years
Subject: Rules change over the years

but some rules are that way just because it sounds right. 5 centimeters were injected just sounds ignorant and I don't care who you are, as Larry the Cable Guy would say. ;-)
If your account doesn't have specific rules about it, sm

the correct way would be to write it out in full (Escherichia coli) whether or not it was dictated in full.  Then, if the dictator says E. coli after that, then it is correct to transcribe it that way.  If the dictator says it in full the next time, then transcribe it in full.  Check your account's guidelines for their preference. 


ALS is correct per AAMT rules. See cite.
I don't care whether the BOS is right or wrong on the issue. I have to use it and so do others. Here's what it says.

As per AAMT BOS 2nd edition page 189: Always capitalize genus names and their abbreviated forms when accompanied by species name. Lowercase genus names used in plural and adjectival forms and when used in the vernacular; for example, when they stand alone without a species name.
I think just the normal rules of English would apply
Subject: I think just the normal rules of English would apply

Whenever adding *ing* to a word that ends in t, you add an extra t.
A couple of grammar rules are at play here
Subject: A couple of grammar rules are at play here

First of all, both got and gotten are correct forms of the verb get.  However, got is a past tense or past participle depending on whether or not the word "has" or "have" is used in front of it.  Gotten, however, is past participle and should be used with the word "has" or "have" in front of it.


It has gotten increasingly larger - okay.  It gotten increasingly larger - not okay.  It got increasingly larger - okay.  It has got increasingly larger - okay.


So if your doc says it anyway but "It gotten increasingly larger", he is correct.  It's simply a matter of preference.  Brits don't generally use the word "gotten", and therefore, a lot of people think it is not a legitimate word, but it is.


Time format rules in BOS 3rd edition?
Can anyone tell me what the specific rules are for time format in the new BOS on pages 337-339. A brief description would be great or u can scan and email it to me too, whichever is easier.

I do intend to buy my own soon but I have to wait till payday and I'm starting a new company right now that uses that book :(

TIA !
Ringer. AAMT BOS2 rules on eponyms.
Subject: Ringer. AAMT BOS2 rules on eponyms.


I believe that is only if the company is compliant with JCHO rules. Not all companies are.
Subject: I believe that is only if the company is compliant with JCHO rules. Not all companies are.


By AAMT rules, need help with period with drug values. (sm)
Subject: By AAMT rules, need help with period with drug values. (sm)

Is this right?


1 gm


0.1 mg


1 mg


 


I was taught that it was 1.0 mg but doc wants it to be just 1 mg and 1 gm.


 


Help.  Thanks.


It is not 'erroneous', only add to the AAMT rules, which change every year!
Subject: It is not 'erroneous', only add to the AAMT rules, which change every year!

To say that the plural form decubiti for the singular of decubitus is
'erroneous' is plain BS !

And it is known that the AAMT, now it has another name, 'makes up' its own grammar rules for the MTing.

This issue has been discussed numerous times on this board and causes a lot of confusion for the MTs and arguments between MTs, QAs and the clients.

EVERY year the BOS rules are changed. We just got used to the BOS 2 and in December 08 the BOS 3 was issued, again with new rules to adhere. The price is around $ 90.--.


As you stated,
Subject: As you stated,

working in different labs, the values and specs would be different; therefore, the other poster is not wrong either. Some labs prefer it one way and others prefer it another. I have always typed it A1c personally, and in my years of experience as a transcriptionist have not had QA correct me on that yet. I just felt that you came on a little strong towards the other poster and yelling isn't really necessary. Have a nice day. :-)
What we think is clearly stated can be most clearly
Subject: What we think is clearly stated can be most clearly

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Unless it is stated 3 mm you cannot assume that it is mm
Subject: Unless it is stated 3 mm you cannot assume that it is mm

According to a very detailed message from my QA department with authoratative references cited, unless the first measure is stated specifically, you are making an assumption that _3_ is mm and cannot assign 3-4 mm. They explained I had to use 3 x 4-mm effusion. There are many units of measure and their point was to assume is not permissible as it could be an error.
and its also stated in stedmans
Subject: and its also stated in stedmans

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This is stated above by administrator
Subject: This is stated above by administrator

What you are saying is redundant. It's already been OvER-stated. Give it a rest.
She's not testing. She has stated before that she's
Subject: She's not testing. She has stated before that she's

new to the field but has been doing ortho so far.  She is now doing some family practice.   We were all new once right?    If you read all the posts she even thought she could not post so often, which is not true.  You can post as many times as you like I would think.  I don't remember reading any rules stating you cannot.   I think they just like you to try to stick to the appropriate subject boards accordingly.   I only try to post answers to word help questions if I'm pretty sure.  If I'm not sure then I usually don't reply with anything at all.   I had to put my 2 cents in here though being another MT who does have a lot of experience but likes to learn from others as well.   


I would expand all as you stated...
Subject: I would expand all as you stated...

I am not on a verbatim account and I do expand those types of abbreviations, but I would be interested in hearing others' opinions as well.

By the way, why are you "dubious"? Just curious!
he clearly stated hypernephrosis ...
Subject: he clearly stated hypernephrosis ...

and it's weird


My QA has stated to type it as 2.7
Subject: My QA has stated to type it as 2.7


I have never heard it stated that way...sorry nm
Subject: I have never heard it stated that way...sorry nm

xxx
Thanks! I have never heard it stated this way before!
Subject: Thanks! I have never heard it stated this way before!


I would leave as stated.
Subject: I would leave as stated.

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as stated in my last message...
Subject: as stated in my last message...

I realized I spelled it wrong after I sent it. My question was did the entire sentence make sense. Sorry for any confusion, but I did know it was suppose to be peroneal. ;-)
As stated above, this is incorrect. nm
Subject: As stated above, this is incorrect. nm

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You may not be a newbie, but you "pubically stated"???
Subject: You may not be a newbie, but you "pubically stated"???

nm
stated in stedmans and lab for 6 years
Subject: stated in stedmans and lab for 6 years

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yes, nectar-thickened also stated a lot !!! nm
Subject: yes, nectar-thickened also stated a lot !!! nm


My company guidelines have always stated...
Subject: My company guidelines have always stated...

"it is okay to leave abbreviations for diagnostic/lab tests and medication administration as abbreviations under diagnosis, name of operation, assessment/impression"

Guess you would have to go by your company rules.
The one for the CBC might be WBCs (if not already stated), and P&P for electrolytes could be CMP
Subject: The one for the CBC might be WBCs (if not already stated), and P&P for electrolytes could be CMP


no dermatological condition stated
Subject: no dermatological condition stated

It is to be applied to the shin daily, then followed by Panafil ointment daily.
Yes, thanks. It does make sense but as I stated to MT50
Subject: Yes, thanks. It does make sense but as I stated to MT50

why can't he just say 4.5. Is that so hard. Thanks
very clearly stated "Luprogram" - I've never heard of.
Subject: very clearly stated "Luprogram" - I've never heard of.

xx
This 4 year, 10-month-old child appears her stated age
Subject: This 4 year, 10-month-old child appears her stated age


It all comes down to style as stated in the begining of a lot of reference books
Subject: It all comes down to style as stated in the begining of a lot of reference books

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Then I would agree as stated below with higher cortical function
Subject: Then I would agree as stated below with higher cortical function


Write out degrees typically, especially if Fahrenheit, Celcius, etc not stated after. sm
Subject: Write out degrees typically, especially if Fahrenheit, Celcius, etc not stated after. sm

BOS states you can use the symbol if the scale name is given (Celcius, etc.)


Lower case x-ray.... unless beginning a sentence, then cap to X-ray.


patient had Witzel jejunostomy: stated she would need this to maintain pressure???
Subject: patient had Witzel jejunostomy: stated she would need this to maintain pressure???