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WRONG (I did it for years) - ostiomeatal, Stedman's 5th NM

Posted By: rad mt tn on 2006-11-22
In Reply to: Please confirm... - psalazar

Subject: WRONG (I did it for years) - ostiomeatal, Stedman's 5th NM

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okay. I have been typing it wrong for all these years. nm
Subject: okay. I have been typing it wrong for all these years. nm


what? you mean I've typing this wrong for 25 years?
Subject: what? you mean I've typing this wrong for 25 years?

That cannot be.  Don't think I'll be changing my ways anytime soon.  Your reference book really says that?  So, a patient would be gravida X, para IX, AB VIII?   Absolutely no way. 
Cannula per Stedman's. In 25 years have never
Subject: Cannula per Stedman's. In 25 years have never

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Why wrong? It is in Stedman's
Subject: Why wrong? It is in Stedman's


Sorry, I am wrong. It is midbrain, all one word, in Stedman's.
Subject: Sorry, I am wrong. It is midbrain, all one word, in Stedman's.


I learned 27 years ago to use q.4h. (no spaces), past few years q.4 h. (see msg)
Subject: I learned 27 years ago to use q.4h. (no spaces), past few years q.4 h. (see msg)

Now some are saying it's q. 4h.??  UGH, YUCK!!  I have also worked on accounts where it had to be "every 4 hours," and we had to spell out p.r.n. (as needed for).  At least we got more characters. 


First rule:  It is all what the "client/account" wants, not always what the BOS says it is.  I realize that language and its usage is constantly changing, but I've seen so many BOS and client flip-flops on so many other things in nearly 3 decades that it's laughable.  What isn't laughable is when we get penalized for not knowing what they want, even when they, themselves, don't know or are wrong.


Oh, and I still prefer the old no spaces:  q.4h., q.4-6h., q.12h., and so on.....


ostiomeatal it is!!!
Subject: ostiomeatal it is!!!


Wow, thank you. Just years, years and more years of experience
Subject: Wow, thank you. Just years, years and more years of experience

and a constant thirst for learning something new everyday. As we all know this can get to be somewhat boring, but learning from what I transcribe as well as from other transcriptionists keeps me going (money is not bad either). It becomes a challenge. But I can't thank you enough for the kind words.

Use to be younger...
I concur...it's ostiomeatal...always has been, sm :)
Subject: I concur...it's ostiomeatal...always has been, sm :)

ostiomeatal (os·tio·me·a·tal) (os”te-o-me-a´təl) [ostium + meatal] pertaining to an opening (ostium) and a meatus, especially in the nasal cavity. (it has nothing to do with bone --osteo--just the point where the area (complex) where the sinus ostia drain) hope that helps! :)
ostiomeatal, I believe is correct.
Subject: ostiomeatal, I believe is correct.


ostiomeatal complex
Subject: ostiomeatal complex

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Ostiomeatal complex (nm)
Subject: Ostiomeatal complex (nm)

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Actually it's ostiomeatal complex. Always.
Subject: Actually it's ostiomeatal complex. Always.

http://www.onelook.com/?w=ostiomeatal+complex&ls=a
It's ostiomeatal. See Vera Pyle.
Subject: It's ostiomeatal. See Vera Pyle.

ostiomatal: denoting the opening of the auditory, nasal, or urinary meatus; does not have anything to do with osteo (bone). Vera Pyle, Current Medical Terminology, 5th Edition.

The root word is ostium, which is certainly a word! It's in my Dorland's, and means: a door or opening; used in anatomical nomenclature as a general term to designate an opening into a tubular organ, or between 2 distinct cavities within the body. Called also orificuium, orifice, and opening.

Stedman's Plastic Surgery/ENT/Dentistry Words, 3rd Edition, specifically lists ostiomeatal complex, stent, and unit.
Ostiomeatal and mucoperiosteal, see inside.
Subject: Ostiomeatal and mucoperiosteal, see inside.

ostiomeatal (os·tio·me·a·tal) (os”te-o-me-a´təl) [ostium + meatal]  pertaining to an opening (ostium) and a meatus, especially in the nasal cavity.


mucoperiosteal (mu·co·peri·os·te·al) (mu”ko-per”e-os´te-əl)  consisting of mucous membrane and periosteum.


mucoperiosteum (mu·co·peri·os·te·um) (mu”ko-per”e-os´te-əm)  periosteum having a mucous surface, as in parts of the auditory apparatus.


osteomeatal or ostiomeatal complex?
Subject: osteomeatal or ostiomeatal complex?

Have seen it both ways. What does AAMT say?
Please excuse typo. Did mean ostiomeatal inside.
Subject: Please excuse typo. Did mean ostiomeatal inside.

I was text typing from Vera Pyle instead of looking at the screen. Oops.
Ostiomeatal or osteomeatal? Mucoperiosteal or mucoperiostial?
Subject: Ostiomeatal or osteomeatal? Mucoperiosteal or mucoperiostial?

I always typed "osteomeatal" until a coworker said a radiologist she worked for said it should be "ostiomeatal," referring to the ostium.


I know there is a periosteum, but when a radiologist says "mucoperiosteal," is he/she referring to the ostium or the periosteum?


I'm soooo confused....


You are correct, doc either gave wrong dosage or wrong drug, would "flag" this for your QA dep
Subject: You are correct, doc either gave wrong dosage or wrong drug, would "flag" this for your QA dept if you have one.


Was this in wrong spot before? We had a slew of responses, all wrong! nm
Subject: Was this in wrong spot before? We had a slew of responses, all wrong! nm

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I have Stedman medical & surgical equipment and words and find that out of my Stedman books (have 4
Subject: I have Stedman medical & surgical equipment and words and find that out of my Stedman books (have 4 others) this is the one I use the most. Just my preference.


2 years' time because years is plural. One year's time because it is singular, only one year.
Subject: 2 years' time because years is plural. One year's time because it is singular, only one year.


Hi, Tracy, Stedman's had "postinflammatory", but I have seen it without, I go with Stedman!
Subject: Hi, Tracy, Stedman's had "postinflammatory", but I have seen it without, I go with Stedman! NM

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Have only seen I&D in about 30 years!!
Subject: Have only seen I&D in about 30 years!!


lab 6 years....12,700 or 12.7
Subject: lab 6 years....12,700 or 12.7

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2 pks day for 30 years +
Subject: 2 pks day for 30 years +

2 packs a day for 30 years, plus 1 1/2 packs a day for ten years. That makes one pack a day for 75 years. Is that right?
2 and 1/2 years
Subject: 2 and 1/2 years

2 and 1/2 years, two and a half years???  Thanks.
I'd probably do 2-1/2 years. nm
Subject: I'd probably do 2-1/2 years. nm

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I do 2 1/2 years
Subject: I do 2 1/2 years

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years' old or years old
Subject: years' old or years old

Can't remember which is correct. The patient is 40 years old or the patient is 40 years'old?

40 years of old doesn't seem right. So I am leaning towards 40 years old. Started new job and my brains have gone out the window.

Thanks.
Is it 9-years-old or 9 years old?
Subject: Is it 9-years-old or 9 years old?

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I have been doing this 30+ years and
Subject: I have been doing this 30+ years and

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Over the course of nearly 20 years,
Subject: Over the course of nearly 20 years,

I have only had 1 account that wanted the acronym in parentheses.  Everybody else just wants it expanded to long form in the diagnosis section.  I wouldn't say you are necessarily behind the times, it is just that it has never come up for you before now. 
For years I was on - sm
Subject: For years I was on - sm

tetracycline for skin infection/acne issues.
20 years...Wow!
Subject: 20 years...Wow!

That's why you know your stuff. :-)
all I know is I work for PS 10 years now...sm
Subject: all I know is I work for PS 10 years now...sm

and in the beginning I gave them Weiss pattern and they immediately changed that for me to *Wise*.........but if the MD is spelling Wyse, I'd give him that.......  even if he is wrong......*LOL*
sorry, meant was in lab for 6 years
Subject: sorry, meant was in lab for 6 years

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2-1/2 years is correct. nm
Subject: 2-1/2 years is correct. nm

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I put 2-1/2 years... or 2-1/2-year-old. nm
Subject: I put 2-1/2 years... or 2-1/2-year-old. nm

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that's correct - it's 2-1/2 years ago......
Subject: that's correct - it's 2-1/2 years ago......


20 years in rad - never heard of that SM
Subject: 20 years in rad - never heard of that SM

maybe you or your doc could call or email to see what it means?
about a million years ago
Subject: about a million years ago

when I was young I was told that abbreviations for latin expressions were lower case. Not sure if that holds true in all cases but mostly its true i.e., a.m., p.m. etc., are all short for latin expressions. someone will correct me if I'm wrong
Maybe not, been typing it for years though. nm
Subject: Maybe not, been typing it for years though. nm


30+ years, have always used curette as that is
Subject: 30+ years, have always used curette as that is

the way I was taught. I was also told eons ago that if there are 2 spellings, the first is the preferred. Stedman's lists curette first.
In my almost 30 years of transcription....
Subject: In my almost 30 years of transcription....

I frequently have providers who don't pronounce things or say the right thing.  I think you are right... it seems like FNP, PA, etc are the worst... and hey my brother is a P.A.-C so I don't have anything against them!
pack years
Subject: pack years

Personally, I would not hyphenate that he smoked for 120 packs years as you state it, as there is no adjective describing a noun. On the other hand, I would hyphenate if he has a 120-pack-year history of smoking, because that is a triple adjective describing a noun.
never in a million years
Subject: never in a million years

would I have gotten that. What is his first language and who the devil taught it to him?
Yes, yes, thank you, new to path after 30 years!
Subject: Yes, yes, thank you, new to path after 30 years!


Five Pack Years'
Subject: Five Pack Years'

Smoking history: Five pack years’ ... do I have that typed right with the apostrophe after years
going by my 6 years of latin...
Subject: going by my 6 years of latin...

"sine" means "without"


so herpes "sine" rash might mean herpes without the usual rash that comes along with it... never heard it used in English, but hope this helps...


i would use 5-pack-years, BUT sm
Subject: i would use 5-pack-years, BUT sm

this is something that has never made sense to me... always had trouble with the pack/years thing... any input would be most appreciated!