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When I was in school (30 years ago) I was

Posted By: sm on 2009-03-07
In Reply to: I love it when I finally figure it out. - Pugmom

Subject: When I was in school (30 years ago) I was

taught that any medical combining form can be coupled with just about any medical term, so nothing surprises me.


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Subject: I learned 27 years ago to use q.4h. (no spaces), past few years q.4 h. (see msg)

Now some are saying it's q. 4h.??  UGH, YUCK!!  I have also worked on accounts where it had to be "every 4 hours," and we had to spell out p.r.n. (as needed for).  At least we got more characters. 


First rule:  It is all what the "client/account" wants, not always what the BOS says it is.  I realize that language and its usage is constantly changing, but I've seen so many BOS and client flip-flops on so many other things in nearly 3 decades that it's laughable.  What isn't laughable is when we get penalized for not knowing what they want, even when they, themselves, don't know or are wrong.


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Subject: Wow, thank you. Just years, years and more years of experience

and a constant thirst for learning something new everyday. As we all know this can get to be somewhat boring, but learning from what I transcribe as well as from other transcriptionists keeps me going (money is not bad either). It becomes a challenge. But I can't thank you enough for the kind words.

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Subject: i would use 5-pack-years, BUT sm

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What has worked for me over the years - sm
Subject: What has worked for me over the years - sm

I use all the methods the other poster suggested.  I also begin thinking to myself "what could he/she be saying" here that would fit in with the context?  Can I actually hear anything that is pertinent?  Think in terms of what is being done to the patient, would they have a reason to be using a particular med, technique, test, whatever.  You sometimes just cannot make sense out of garbage no matter what methods you use and even QA will give them big, fat blanks.