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Bells palsy and chronic headaches? Does anyone have any good info or help out there? sm

Posted By: my head hurts!! on 2005-11-16
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Unfortunately, I have had Bells palsy for the past 8 years. I got it while pregnant and had a pretty severe case. I was extremely sick with that pregnancy and then ended up with the Bells palsy. In fact, my baby quit growing after I got the Bells palsy! Thank God I was about 32 weeks when I got it. Anyway, over time the symptoms have not been as bad. For the most part to look at me you couldnt tell I had the Bells--until I smiled at you. Then, of course, you would know it. I have regained some use of muscles, but not all. I have been able to get my eye to close, but it is not tight, so I still battle with dry eye every night/morning. My forehead has been completely "dead" since this happened. Even electric stim could not move the muscle! Whenever I get a headache it always seems to settle on the dead part of my forehead. My headaches have been increasing lately, and currently I have had a headache for five days! I have tried Advil, Tylenol and Excedrin Migraine with no relief. My neurologist cant see me until January since I havent been to him for years. I can not afford an MRI right now and have no desire to start taking any type of pain med. Does anyone have any experience with Bells or have any ideas. I was wondering if a TENS unit might help. I have been reading about that on the internet. Sorry this is so long. Thank you for any help. As you can imagine, I am having a very hard time working all day at my computer with this!

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It will be difficult but you can do it.   

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Thank you very much for your concern. I appreciate it. I do feel a little better today, although still didn't rest well last night. Got to do something about that but not sure what yet.
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If you don't have anyone to massage you, do what you can to yourself.

You can also use a tennis ball (lie on it or put between you and the wall). You can put it in a long sock and hang it down your back too (between you and the wall). It works great!

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