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Obama was SUPPOSED to do his own thing? Remember?!

Posted By: NOW you're worried about Iraqis? nm on 2009-06-26
In Reply to: Iraq...(sm) - Just the big bad

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Another Thing to Remember
Back in September, congressional Democrats saw the writing on the wall and proposed a much more modest stimulus bill than the one we're facing today. But House Republicans blocked it because they claimed it was too slow and too expensive. And President Bush refused to even consider any action unless congressional Democrats agreed to make his tax cuts permanent (after all, nothing succeeds like failure).

Had we passed a modest stimulus bill last fall, money would be flowing and job losses would not be nearly what they are today. So don't blame this one on the Democrats.
Either way, Obama was supposed to be CHANGE
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So Christians aren't supposed to political? Or we aren't supposed to let our morality, faith

our conscience guide us politically?


I'm sorry, that is a separation I cannot make.  My faith and religious convictions are part of the whole person that I am.  I vote my conscience.  I want political leaders who reflect my morality.  I also happen to believe there are many Christians out there like me.  There is no "separation" of church and state for me, which by the way was a concept (nowhere specifically mentioned in the constitution) meant to protect the church from the government more so than the government from the church.


There is absolutely nothing wrong with that commercial.  There are condom commercials, "personal" lubricant commercials, and penis and sexual performance enhancing commercials -- why would anyone be offended by a pro-life commercial?  The fact that anyone would be offended is a testament to just how twisted society has become!


Not right, as far as I can remember 59% voted for Obama...nm
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I'm wasn't for Bush but you need to remember...Obama is
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I'm wasn't for Bush but you need to remember...Obama is
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Aaaah, Obama, the pied piper.....remember
And out of the houses the rats came tumbling:
Great rats, small rats, lean rats, brawny rats,
Brown rats, black rats, grey rats, tawny rats,
Grave old plodders, gay young friskers,
Fathers, mothers, uncles, cousins,
Cocking tails and pricking whiskers,
Families by tens and dozens,
Brothers, sisters, husbands, wives --
Followed the Piper for their lives.
From street to street he piped, advancing,
And step for step, they followed, dancing,
Until they came to the River Weser

Wherein all plunged and perished


I will remember that one...if you remember...thou shalt not kill. nm
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The only thing Obama did was
give an order.  I commend him for letting the Navy Seals do what they did but the true heroes are the Navy Seals.
The only thing I see out of Obama

is nothing but lie after lie.  I've listed on this forum many times the lies that Obama has told.  He also just told another recently with these investigations into harsh interrogations.  He said he wouldn't go after people and now he has totally flip flopped on the subject which I think is sad.  He says he wants to move forward but you can't move forward by constantly dragging up the past.  I'm very saddened that our current administration is going to go after people who kept us safe and also prevented a follow-up attack.  How many people in LA would have been killed if they had not done this?  They kept us safe and now we are attacking them.....that's nice.


Only God truly knows Obama's heart and what he stands for but I cannot handle the blatant lies coming out of that man's mouth.  I know politicians lie to get elected and all that jazz but he has just lied about so much and yet the biased news media and his kool-aid drinking followers look right past it and refuse to see what is right in front of them.


McCain has been saying the same thing Obama has been saying...
politics as usual in Washington needs to stop...Obama chose a 30-year plus washington insider and McCain could not havechosen someone much further from washington politics. He has bucked his party when he felt they were not representing their members as they should and so has she. She cleaned up a good ol'boy nest of corruption in Alaska, where, I might add, she enjoys an 80% favorability rating, and that is unheard of. I don't think 80% of Alaskans are Republican. That means to me she is a great governor and certainly knows what she is doing.

She is young..like Obama. She represents change from Washington poltiics...like Obama. She comes from meager beginnings...like Obama. She served in City council (Obama served as community organizer). She served as mayor. She has served as governor. She has a beautiful family. So does OBama.

What means the most to me is one part of her speech no one really made a big deal about, but it spoke volumes to me. She said you should serve with a servant's heart. She has demonstrated she will buck her party to clean it up, and if it comes to party or her constituents, her constituents trump the party. That means a LOT to me. That means she cares about the little people and it is not just words, it is actions. McCain has done the same. I have admired her greatly for a long time, and i think she is exactly what America needs in washington.
Sorry, Palin ain't my thing.....neither is Obama
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The thing about Obama wiggling, as you so....sm
eloquently put here....I have noticed also.

Others (especially his supporters), tend to say that he "thinks before he speaks."

Well...my take on that is....

Yes, he thinks before he speaks. He thinks far too much. Do you ever wonder why? I watched him during the campaign, and as I watch him now, he is the same way.

He thinks so hard before he speaks, whenever he doesn't have a speech prepared for him that is.....because he's trying to find the right thing to say to the people he's talking to, and you can see the wheels churning and spinning, as he tries not to say what he "really" is thinking. Kind of like not offending a certain group of people, and trying to say the political correct thing. You know he's thinking something different, and it comes out all stilted and somehow off.


That's why I see him as "lying" most of the time, so he says "the right thing" at the moment....if you know what I mean.


My DH and I were talking about it the other day. Do you ever notice how he talks about "socialism" and his socialist programs all the time, but uses other words to describe them...but you hear the pauses, and the whirs and clicks going on as he's thinking, to be sure to say it the right way.



Yeah, he thinks before he speaks....otherwise, he knows his words will come back to haunt him...which they will, of course.





Nah, you are misinformed. Obama is doing the right thing for all of us. nm
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Poor thing....... wonder where Obama's little tax
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Obama is saying the same thing and he has no grand plan...
either than he has shared. He said it in the O'Reilly interview. O'Reilly asked him if he would invade Pakistan to get him and he would not say yay or nay.

So, following your logic...thumbs down on you, O?
Same thing happenignat Obama's rallies.
why isn't our biased media showing it? There were independents there with records standing next to some that were spewing vulgar/hate language and they said Obama could easily hear them, but he never said a word. A news mic was even close by but he said they shut it off when all the nasty threats started and asked another to turn their mic on, whereever they were. So, hmmmm, sounds funny to me.
The only good thing about Obama being elected
would be that in four years, we can vote him back out. I'm with you, sm, less government, less government spending.
But focus on the real thing here...how your guy Obama...
answered the question. Socialism 101. No one forced him to do it. He could have walked away...he has dodged questions very artfully in the past. But he chose to answer this one.

And a state had a private citizen investigated because of a question he asked a presidential candidate. That does not alarm you???? The Patriot Act alarms liberals but this DOES NOT???
That is soooo telling.
and you agree with ever single thing Obama says
Knock yourself out--but I prefer to think for myself. I only pick the candidate I think is best--not perfect
One more thing about abortion for Obama supporters (sm)

While I can see the controversy about when life begins when we are talking about the very early stages of development, I have this question for anyone who has ever had a child....or been one.  Generally when a mother is about 20 weeks pregnant, give or take a couple of weeks, she starts to feel the baby moving around inside her body. The baby moves more and more as the weeks go by.  Toward 30 weeks or so, you can actually feel the baby changing positions to get more comfortable, moving around.  So you are saying that baby I felt moving in my body wasn't alive yet? 


What is the one thing you want an Obama presidency to accomplish?

Mine is curbing illegal immigration.


Good thing Obama talked to them
all nice and friendly like.  So much for kissing their back sides Mr. President.  Maybe he should send them an iPod.
I saw the same thing with Obama, comparison to Hitler
So playing that ole race card again does no good.
It's a good thing Obama promised

not to sign any bills with pork in it....oh wait.....he lied about that and signed it anyway, didn't he? 


Yeah...good thing she isn't debating Obama...
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The great thing about Obama talkin' so purdy...
It's so easy to catch him in a lie. He's so clear and straightforward, there's no way he can deny what he said. I think it's great when the news says what he does on any given day and then plays back his campaign speeches and they are completely opposite. It's great, keep it up. America can fall out of love with Obama as quickly as they fell in love with him.
A socialist country doesn't seem like such a bad thing?!? Then vote for Batista Obama.
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Oh my! I remember him well. I remember we used to call him...sm
tricky d!ck. He lost the election when he appeared at the first television debate against JFK, slam dunk! He was a very crafty, evil man in my opinion and the latest news reinforces my opinion even more. It was so interesting that he eventually did become president years later and proved to be a disgrace to the presidency.
And I was supposed to know this how exactly?
You assume I know this by what means? Osmosis.  Of course, this is a tragedy.  I have know tragedy.  Again, I ask, what makes you think we cannot relate?   Your gross overreaction is disturbing to the extreme.  How, in fact, does one extend condolences without knowing the circumstances?  And why do you and Carla assume no one else has tragedy?  Who owes who an apology? 
They are supposed to be. nm
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And I am supposed to take ....sm
"Just the big bad" to be a reliable source? You are anonymous, why should I trust you? But, I will do a little more checking around and see what I can find.

FWIW, I don't believe I have ever mentioned the LA Times before this prior post as I really do believe that a journalist has the right to not divulge their source. HOWEVER, I do not believe that any politician has the right to squelch potentially incriminating evidence from the public. This, in my opinion, is government getting bigger by the minute.
You are supposed to be an MT
and supposed to know how to spell
So, exactly how is anyone supposed...(sm)

to distinguish you in particular as not being a pub when you use no moniker? 


Well how else was he supposed to

pay for all the spending his administration is doing?  I hope this is the final nail in his coffin so to speak.  Remember when Bush #1 said read my lips...no new taxes and he went back on the promise and wasn't re-elected.  Well....let us hope that the 95% of Americans that he professed to not have ANY kind of taxes raised on them will get p!ssed and we can say goodbye to Mr. Obama in 2012. 


Sorry. This was supposed to be in response to LOL
Someone should actually read an article before saying untrue things about it.  But that doesn't surprise me.  It's in line with the way this administration lies about everything.
Was supposed to say didn't see any
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Yes, and I thought they were supposed to be

And these are supposed to be our allies...nm

That's what the troops are supposed to be doing
The key word is *securing.*  It's an extreme exaggeration to say that the U.S. was supporting Hezbollah by making sure a Suni and Shiite combined rally did not get out of hand, but it's par for the course of for the dramaticists known as the mainstream media.  Poor and misleading reporting is what they specialize in.
what in the world is this supposed to mean? nm
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Exactly......since when is RICH supposed to be
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Aren't you supposed to be
working right now for the worst Transcriptionist company in the world, MQ/Cbay? Get back to work and spare us your opinion.
Whoops...supposed to be a lot
of people and not I lot of people. 
And these are supposed to be grownup
adults, working MTs. I have never in my life (and that be 6+ decades) seen so much hate and bitterness rolled up in someone! I sure hope they don't be transcribing my medical records while in this state of mind!! And, just for the record, I am a registered Democrat, not that I am proud of it, nor that I voted it. These posts, however, have nothing to do with politics, just personal attacks, childish at that.
Well we were supposed to be "privy"
but that didn't happen, remember? Didn't have anytime at all to read those 1200 something pages.
Isn't that the way it's SUPPOSED to work?

Obama outlines the mission to his military leaders, relies upon their input, and, if in his judgment the plan sounds good, he says "okay."


During the last eight years, Bush (who had his "mission" in mind long before 9/11 happened) insisted on invading and occupying Iraq, and every single military leader that advised AGAINST Bush's plan was fired by Bush, right down to Rumsfeld at the very end.   This is NOT how it's supposed to be.  The Bush way was the wrong way, which is one of the reasons people were (still are) so upset with him.


Okay...so all this money is supposed

to help us.  So when does it start?  Where has all that money gone?  So far I've seen nothing but our government take control of more and more things and want to institute more government programs to tell us what we can do with our money.  That is what YOU don't seem to get.  As for the GOP....they are crooks just like the crats.  None of them care unless they are in power and that is all either party wants and that is something that amazingly both pubs and crats don't see  because they are too blinded by their party lines. 


And for the last time....I understand that this didn't just happen during Obama's watch.  In fact, a lot of this crap started way back in ole Bill's administration but all you seem to remember is everything is Bush's fault.  I admit....he had both greedy hands in the cookie jar but if you are going to hold him accountable, you need to look at so many other politicians than just him because a lot of them had their grubby little hands in the cookie jar of greed. 


You have people like Barney Frank who made money off of Freddie and Fannie and him telling us that they were completely sound right before they took a huge nose dive. Then we have Dodd who got money from AIG, got sweetheart loans through them and slipped in the bonuses for AIG for congress to pass.  You have Clinton who pushed for high-risk loans, etc.  There are just so many people who you can point the fingers at here.


As for these bailouts and pork bills that are supposed to help us, how in the dickens are we supposed to pay off this deficit?  The only way is to raise taxes and you can't just do it on the rich because even they can't afford it all.  Obama will raise everyone's taxes....mark my words.  He may want to help others by healthcare, but he is going to cause many more to go under when he gets cap n trade passed like he wants to.  That will hurt so many people.


I'm tired of Obama going to every country and apologizing.  What the heck do we have to apologize to the French for?  It if wasn't for us, they'd be speaking German right now.  I mean.....come on. 


As for the liberals outnumbering the conservatives.......I highly doubt that considering that Fox News ratings are way higher than any liberal media's ratings are. 


And exactly what is this supposed to demonstrate? (sm)

There's a huge difference between a demonstration and the real thing.  Hannity goes in knowing he won't be killed and that the situation is controlled.  However, prisoners of a foreign country who do not speak our language and are already scared don't have that luxury. 


So let me guess....After Hannity does this, he'll turn around and say there can't be anything wrong with it because I'm okay.  What a moron.


Isn't he supposed to be the commander in chief

of the troops?  And his love affair with war is the entire reason they need to be recruited in the first place.


Too bad you think it's just fine and dandy to recruit handicapped people.  Speaks volume about the kind of person you.  The despicable kind that doesn't deserve any further response from me.


Now hurry along and don't forget to kiss King George's ring as you kneel at his feet, worshipping a false god.  What a fool.


The media are supposed to be acting as sm
civil and political watchdogs, not government censors and apologists.