One more thing about abortion for Obama supporters (sm)
Posted By: MeMT on 2008-10-31
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While I can see the controversy about when life begins when we are talking about the very early stages of development, I have this question for anyone who has ever had a child....or been one. Generally when a mother is about 20 weeks pregnant, give or take a couple of weeks, she starts to feel the baby moving around inside her body. The baby moves more and more as the weeks go by. Toward 30 weeks or so, you can actually feel the baby changing positions to get more comfortable, moving around. So you are saying that baby I felt moving in my body wasn't alive yet?
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All those that think abortion is a WONDERFUL thing
Sickening enough as it is, but to fund OTHER countries with MY money to kill children.......this man is definitely NOT a Christian!
http://www.infowars.com/?p=7259
I agree with one thing you said. Abortion is
definitely evil.
Obama supporters, I need your help
I am a conservative Republican, but am undecided in this election. My best friend is a liberal Democrat and she is hosting an Obama Party this Friday. I've been trying to become educated on where Obama stands on some of the issues and what his plans are once he becomes president, but I'm obviously looking in the wrong places. I have a very open mind and want to be part of the conversation at this party, but I want to know what's being talked about. Can anyone give me some reputable websites that will give me any of this information? It would be greatly appreciated!
If Obama has supporters like you,
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Why is it so many Obama supporters
sound like you? Always angry, negative, militant nay-sayers who never seem want to allow anyone else to have an opinion that does not agree with yours. I've heard you spiel before too. I will be glad when McCain wins the presidency and stops all these rumors. I've heard more than enough about someone who really hasn't accomplished much of anything of significance.
A lot of Obama supporters do
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obama supporters sure don't like
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obama supporters
I have been visiting this board for a little while and I will say that I will never visit EVER AGAIN. I have never witnessed such nastiness and hatred on BOTH sides of this political forum. One side thinks they are better than the other; the self-righteous blathering about 'who is more of an American' calling people horrible names like 'oreo', 'half-breeds', 'low-lifes', etc - even stooping so low as to call people 'baby-killers'. You all seem to forget one thing: WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER, NO MATTER WHO IS ELECTED. And whatever happens, all of us will be affected and as much in the toilet this country has been in for the past eight years - NONE OF US IS BETTER THAN OUR FELLOW MAN. Period.
Whatever Obama supporters are, they are
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Hey, Obama supporters ...
What do you say we all switch and vote a dirty old maverick into the White House?
Sorry, just felt the urge to be an @$$. 
To Obama supporters: s/m
I don't normally post on this board, I stay over on the MT boards, but I have one thing to say from my heart: Please remember that you reap what you sow. All of the years of the Bush-bashing from the left...it was always "okay" to do that because Bush is an "imbecile" or whatever other hateful names he was called. You didn't agree with his policies, etc. So let's bash him. Forget that he is a human being with people who love him. I believe he did the best he could with what he had to work with in terms of faulty intelligence given to him and the unimaginable stress of being the Leader of the Free World.
Well, now the tables have turned. I, personally, do not intend to bash Obama until he does/does not do something I disagree with, but when the time comes that some people might have the gall to disagree with something Obama does and refer to him in a negative way by calling him names or otherwise, please remember how it was *okay* for the left to do it to Bush. Just remember that. The time will come when the hateful negativity comes back on you with a vengeance.
Thanks for listening.
Obama supporters....
When are you going to quit your job? Do we have to wait until he's sworn in to sit home and collect welfare from the tax increases....or can we quit today?
Yes. I see so many Obama supporters like this.
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Problem is Obama supporters just do not want to
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Obama supporters are organizing
While you guys are here on this page engaging it "silly season semantics", we Obama supporters are working our plan to ensure that we get this wonderful man of the people in office. Has Senator McCain given his supporters any ideas on what they can do to try to help put him in office? Most of the 90,000+ people at the Democratic convention are right now working the plan (not to mention the millions of us who watched from home!) You guys need to wake up and give your support to someone who will work for you rather than against you in Washington.
The only thing wrong with being wrong is stubbornly clinging to your wrongness. You probably voted for our current president 4 and 8 years ago. The deplorable condition that our nation has fallen into over the course of the last 8 years makes me know I must do everything possible to avoid 4 more. I, and millions like me, are so happy that Senator Obama chose to use his awesome intelligence, skills and experience of working with people to help us help ourselves. We are an unstoppable force. Better get on board, folks.
Obama supporters have nothing to fear
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Absolutely! Obama supporters seem get that now
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I see the Obama supporters have no response to
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Susan and others are right. Obama supporters
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Obama supporters are not only close, they
Several independents were in the crowds and with their own records got so many racial/vulgar/threatening comments on tape. They were standing next to those where news mics were right there and they turned them off so YOU wouldn't hear the nasty things being said.
So lets not make this just a McCain thing...... poor little Obama supporters :(
Neither do Obama supporters. Your party needs a
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I guess Obama supporters......... sm
and bar owners really do not care about the danger the city could be in because of the legislation passed allowing bars to stay open 24/7 for 4 days. I would think that safety would be a concern, but you just proved me wrong. 
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Obama's supporters only hear what they want
They don't want to hear the truth. I hope you enjoy working even harder than you do now only to give the government more money only to hand it over to people who do not work for it.
Not all Obama supporters are looking for handouts -
I am not asking for handouts - I don't need handouts - I don't want handouts - and I am THRILLED that Obama won the election.
Obama supporters worried, sorry
I think Obama supporters can see the some negatives.
At this point, since he has not yet taken office, there really is not a lot to complain about. Most folks see that he is doing what he needs to be doing--preparing for the transition and keeping the public informed of that.
I see people complaining about the delusional supporters, who they claim are essentially fools for drinking the Kool-Aid. But I never see any of the Obama detractors say that they see anything at all positive about the man, which makes me think they too are drinking the Kool-Aid, just a different flavor.
What IS it with Obama supporters, liberals, Democrats, et.al....
that they get so angry, so hateful and so bent out of shape when someone does not agree with their point of view? What IS that? You are pro abortion, I get it. You are pro killing babies...I get it. What I don't get about Obama supporters/liberals/Democrats is you are all about individual freedom, about CHOICE, about freedom speech...until someone disagrees with you and then that goes south faster than the geese in winter. Classic do as we say, not as we do. If you don't agree with us you aren't welcome. Mighty big of you folks. Mighty big. LOL.
Obama supporters don't have to turn their headlights off (nm)
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Obama supporters are the most clueless people
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Obama supporters are very educated and not hicks nm
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Obama and his supporters dont care. as long as
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Obama supporters are clueless, apparently dont
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Commie? This is out of line. Obama supporters are educated. nm
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Yeah, agreed. Obama supporters refuse to see his
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Hmmm..... Obama supporters suddenly quiet
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SC Roman Catholic priest says Obama supporters shouldn't receive
By MEG KINNARD | Associated Press Writer
9:04 PM EST, November 13, 2008
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) _ A South Carolina Roman Catholic priest has told his parishioners that they should refrain from receiving Holy Communion if they voted for Barack Obama because the Democratic president-elect supports abortion, and supporting him "constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil."
The Rev. Jay Scott Newman said in a letter distributed Sunday to parishioners at St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville that they are putting their souls at risk if they take Holy Communion before doing penance for their vote.
"Our nation has chosen for its chief executive the most radical pro-abortion politician ever to serve in the United States Senate or to run for president," Newman wrote, referring to Obama by his full name, including his middle name of Hussein.
"Voting for a pro-abortion politician when a plausible pro-life alternative exists constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil, and those Catholics who do so place themselves outside of the full communion of Christ's Church and under the judgment of divine law. Persons in this condition should not receive Holy Communion until and unless they are reconciled to God in the Sacrament of Penance, lest they eat and drink their own condemnation."
During the 2008 presidential campaign, many bishops spoke out on abortion more boldly than four years earlier, telling Catholic politicians and voters that the issue should be the most important consideration in setting policy and deciding which candidate to back. A few church leaders said parishioners risked their immortal soul by voting for candidates who support abortion rights.
But bishops differ on whether Catholic lawmakers — and voters — should refrain from receiving Communion if they diverge from church teaching on abortion. Each bishop sets policy in his own diocese. In their annual fall meeting, the nation's Catholic bishops vowed Tuesday to forcefully confront the Obama administration over its support for abortion rights.
According to national exit polls, 54 percent of Catholics chose Obama, who is Protestant. In South Carolina, which McCain carried, voters in Greenville County — traditionally seen as among the state's most conservative areas — went 61 percent for the Republican, and 37 percent for Obama.
"It was not an attempt to make a partisan point," Newman said in a telephone interview Thursday. "In fact, in this election, for the sake of argument, if the Republican candidate had been pro-abortion, and the Democratic candidate had been pro-life, everything that I wrote would have been exactly the same."
Conservative Catholics criticized Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry in 2004 for supporting abortion rights, with a few Catholic bishops saying Kerry should refrain from receiving Holy Communion because his views were contrary to church teachings.
Sister Mary Ann Walsh, spokeswoman for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said she had not heard of other churches taking this position in reaction to Obama's win. A Boston-based group that supports Catholic Democrats questioned the move, saying it was too extreme.
"Father Newman is off base," said Steve Krueger, national director of Catholic Democrats. "He is acting beyond the authority of a parish priest to say what he did. ... Unfortunately, he is doing so in a manner that will be of great cost to those parishioners who did vote for Sens. Obama and Biden. There will be a spiritual cost to them for his words."
A man who has attended St. Mary's for 18 years said he welcomed Newman's message and anticipated it would inspire further discussion at the church.
"I don't understand anyone who would call themselves a Christian, let alone a Catholic, and could vote for someone who's a pro-abortion candidate," said Ted Kelly, 64, who volunteers his time as lector for the church. "You're talking about the murder of innocent beings."
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On the Net:
St. Mary's Catholic Church: http://www.stmarysgvl.org/
My belief? "late-term abortion" or partial-birth abortion" = infanticide, it is sickening
So in these cases I do think, as in most things, there is no ABSOLUTE, but a judicious guideline for this should be investigated and established by the medical community, as far as survival/outcome, but then we must be willing to prosecute mothers and doctors who go outside the guidelines...with established jail terms....and more money to house these "criminals" for years. Why not let God by the ultimate judge, He has the wisdom and the power, and eternity without God is worse than anything we as humans can mandate, don't you think?
meant is against abortion...didn't mean supports abortion (NM)
The only thing Obama did was
give an order. I commend him for letting the Navy Seals do what they did but the true heroes are the Navy Seals.
The only thing I see out of Obama
is nothing but lie after lie. I've listed on this forum many times the lies that Obama has told. He also just told another recently with these investigations into harsh interrogations. He said he wouldn't go after people and now he has totally flip flopped on the subject which I think is sad. He says he wants to move forward but you can't move forward by constantly dragging up the past. I'm very saddened that our current administration is going to go after people who kept us safe and also prevented a follow-up attack. How many people in LA would have been killed if they had not done this? They kept us safe and now we are attacking them.....that's nice.
Only God truly knows Obama's heart and what he stands for but I cannot handle the blatant lies coming out of that man's mouth. I know politicians lie to get elected and all that jazz but he has just lied about so much and yet the biased news media and his kool-aid drinking followers look right past it and refuse to see what is right in front of them.
McCain has been saying the same thing Obama has been saying...
politics as usual in Washington needs to stop...Obama chose a 30-year plus washington insider and McCain could not havechosen someone much further from washington politics. He has bucked his party when he felt they were not representing their members as they should and so has she. She cleaned up a good ol'boy nest of corruption in Alaska, where, I might add, she enjoys an 80% favorability rating, and that is unheard of. I don't think 80% of Alaskans are Republican. That means to me she is a great governor and certainly knows what she is doing.
She is young..like Obama. She represents change from Washington poltiics...like Obama. She comes from meager beginnings...like Obama. She served in City council (Obama served as community organizer). She served as mayor. She has served as governor. She has a beautiful family. So does OBama.
What means the most to me is one part of her speech no one really made a big deal about, but it spoke volumes to me. She said you should serve with a servant's heart. She has demonstrated she will buck her party to clean it up, and if it comes to party or her constituents, her constituents trump the party. That means a LOT to me. That means she cares about the little people and it is not just words, it is actions. McCain has done the same. I have admired her greatly for a long time, and i think she is exactly what America needs in washington.
Sorry, Palin ain't my thing.....neither is Obama
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The thing about Obama wiggling, as you so....sm
eloquently put here....I have noticed also.
Others (especially his supporters), tend to say that he "thinks before he speaks."
Well...my take on that is....
Yes, he thinks before he speaks. He thinks far too much. Do you ever wonder why? I watched him during the campaign, and as I watch him now, he is the same way.
He thinks so hard before he speaks, whenever he doesn't have a speech prepared for him that is.....because he's trying to find the right thing to say to the people he's talking to, and you can see the wheels churning and spinning, as he tries not to say what he "really" is thinking. Kind of like not offending a certain group of people, and trying to say the political correct thing. You know he's thinking something different, and it comes out all stilted and somehow off.
That's why I see him as "lying" most of the time, so he says "the right thing" at the moment....if you know what I mean.
My DH and I were talking about it the other day. Do you ever notice how he talks about "socialism" and his socialist programs all the time, but uses other words to describe them...but you hear the pauses, and the whirs and clicks going on as he's thinking, to be sure to say it the right way.
Yeah, he thinks before he speaks....otherwise, he knows his words will come back to haunt him...which they will, of course.
Nah, you are misinformed. Obama is doing the right thing for all of us. nm
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Poor thing....... wonder where Obama's little tax
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Obama is saying the same thing and he has no grand plan...
either than he has shared. He said it in the O'Reilly interview. O'Reilly asked him if he would invade Pakistan to get him and he would not say yay or nay.
So, following your logic...thumbs down on you, O?
Same thing happenignat Obama's rallies.
why isn't our biased media showing it? There were independents there with records standing next to some that were spewing vulgar/hate language and they said Obama could easily hear them, but he never said a word. A news mic was even close by but he said they shut it off when all the nasty threats started and asked another to turn their mic on, whereever they were. So, hmmmm, sounds funny to me.
The only good thing about Obama being elected
would be that in four years, we can vote him back out. I'm with you, sm, less government, less government spending.
But focus on the real thing here...how your guy Obama...
answered the question. Socialism 101. No one forced him to do it. He could have walked away...he has dodged questions very artfully in the past. But he chose to answer this one.
And a state had a private citizen investigated because of a question he asked a presidential candidate. That does not alarm you???? The Patriot Act alarms liberals but this DOES NOT???
That is soooo telling.
and you agree with ever single thing Obama says
Knock yourself out--but I prefer to think for myself. I only pick the candidate I think is best--not perfect
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