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Against lowering and against alcohol

Posted By: anon on 2007-08-23
In Reply to: Are you for or against? - Pollster

I have a BIL who is an alcoholic. I have seen first hand what it can do to kids and the family as a whole, hate the stuff!!!!!!!!


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Sounds like lowering calories
and getting a good variety of foods, not too high in carbs, might be the best diet choice for most people. 
Lowering the legal drinking age from 21 to 18

I didn't know this was going on.....


The article is long so I didn't copy all of it. See the link below:


College presidents from about 100 of the nation's best-known universities, including Duke, Dartmouth and Ohio State, are calling on lawmakers to consider lowering the drinking age from 21 to 18, saying current laws actually encourage dangerous binge drinking on campus.


The movement called the Amethyst Initiative began quietly recruiting presidents more than a year ago to provoke national debate about the drinking age.


"This is a law that is routinely evaded," said John McCardell, former president of Middlebury College in Vermont who started the organization.


"It is a law that the people at whom it is directed believe is unjust and unfair and discriminatory."


Choleserol-lowering agents can be tricky...
They have to play around with dosages to mitigate side effects. The first one I wsa given made me feel really tired (like I was coming down with the flu). They switched me to a once-daily dosage of simvastatin. I take it right before I go to bed and have absolutely zero side effects. Just keep yourself informed about the drug they try you on and be aware when you first start on it and you'll be fine. In my personal opinion, not taking one is not an option, even with lifestyle changes. Be sure to go for your cholesterol checks as suggested by you MD. Of course, if applicable, you can lose weight, stop smoking, increase activity, increase your intake of the good cholesterols and play around with low-fat recipes. There are some heart-smart products you can substitute for things you consume a lot of, like margarine, that are tasty, yet a bit more expensive.
Choleserol lowering agents can be tricky...
Sometimes (not always) they have to play around with dosages to mitigate side effects. The first one I was given made me feel really tired (like I was coming down with the flu). They switched me to a once-daily dosage of simvastatin. I take it right before I go to bed and have absolutely zero side effects.

Just keep yourself informed about the drug they try you on and be aware when you first start on it and you'll be fine. In my personal opinion, not taking one is not an option, even with lifestyle changes. Be sure to go for your cholesterol checks as suggested by you MD. Of course, if applicable, you can lose weight, stop smoking, increase activity, increase your intake of the good cholesterols and play around with low-fat recipes. There are some heart-smart products you can substitute for things you consume a lot of, like margarine, that are tasty, yet a bit more expensive.
Anyone have ideas for natural lipid-lowering agents? sm
I try so hard, oatmeal, almonds, whole grain bread, watch what I eat and drink, substitute honey for sugar, yet triglycerides and cholesterol high. Getting discouraged and feel like saying to heck with it. I did Google, same thing I do, they say it may be familial.
100% against. Against alcohol, anyway. lol
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alcohol

Alcohol......
I personally don't drink with every meal but I do have wine now and then. A girlfriend of mine and her husband have a glass or two of wine just about every night with dinner and have for years, but I wouldn't say they have a problem.

I suppose you need to ask yourself if you didn't have it, would it stay on your mind until you had it.??
alcohol
I think 1-2 drinks a day is absolutely fine. It is relaxing, and I usually do the same. My mom has done it for years, has a glass of wine at lunch and 1 or 2 in the evening and she is well into her 80s and in perfect health! Enjoy yourself and ignore your roommate.
For those who suggested alcohol..sm
alcohol is a stimulant and will have just the opposite effect. Melatonin helps, but I don't like its after effects, and it does have some. I recently came across a native american remedy called Cloud Walking Tea. It is a tea and it works. I sleep peacefully with no after effects.
Alcohol is NOT a stimulant, but
it is very short-acting for people with a normal liver, so it helps many people fall asleep, but then they wake up again after a few hours.

I said that about the liver because I have read there are some people whose livers don't work right and really can't handle any alcohol. That's kind of scary because people don't find out until their liver is destroyed, apparently.
*Alcohol* is the key word here - sm
and reeking of it is definitely a red flag. How would they get to the lake? By car? Alcohol and cars = trouble. Also, alcohol and water are a bad combination as well. If you're still on the fence about it, you could call the friend's mother and ask if the father is going or not. Chances are she's heard this question before..........
No, I mean no alcohol period. nm

you don't know that for sure. He says he thinks he's an alcohol.
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Or could he be using alcohol as excuse without
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personality/alcohol
Both, I think. Alcohol makes personality traits creep out from under the woodwork. Surly, sarcastic, belittling, called me four letter words in front of the kids. Yes, I consider the way he talks to you to be abuse, especially if this is how he talks to you most of the time. Of course, everything was my fault. An alcoholic does no wrong. It is never their fault, even when they are down to their last dime with no family left. My children were 14 and 16. However, they did not go with me. He had brainwashed them into thinking that he was the only one who could provide for them, that I could only work for minimus wage and that they would have nothing without him. I stayed in the same town, we had joint custody, he had residential. He has since died and my kids and I are fine.
what about alcohol? that's legal
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or drugs combined w/alcohol
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OMG!!! Does he supply them with drugs and alcohol
so they will be doing that in the safety of their home as well?

I am floored by that reasoning. Its as if there is no hope of teaching a child to make smart choices so might as well have them do it in front of you. What on earth is that teaching them?? I'm sorry but you do not need to be a parent to see how completely asinine that is.

By the way, you should ask him if his home is "safe" enough to preclude AIDS and other STDs, pregnancy, etc. Maybe he thinks there is some soft of "force field" protecting her there. Egads.
oh yeah, that too...alcohol....*lol*. forgot...sm

And I usually NEVER have air in my brain *ROFL*....thanks for the laugh!! 


Or you can drink alcohol at home : )
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Abstinence of ALL alcohol is the trick !!!
This method will allow you to know what you are doing at ALL times and prevent taking the life of another individual.  Easy on your organs, too.  Good example for your children . . . and on and on and on
When my now 20 yo DD told me about her drugs and alcohol sm
I asked that she wait until she was out of high school to have sex, because it carries big consequences and she needed to be ready for that. For that she waited for that, but tried marijuana twice and got drunk a couple of times too. I was shocked by my "good girl."
former teenage alcohol user

I don't know if this is too "harsh" for your daughter, but have you thought about showing her the results of drinking and/or driving?  I drank A LOT in high school, starting around 15 when my mom got sick and continued daily drinking through graduation and then some.  Did my fair share of drinking and driving or riding in cars with drivers who drank, thinking that nothing would ever happen.  My sister who was 5 years older than me died from drinking and driving when I was 18, and to "show" me and my teenage cousins the consequences, we went with my uncle to see her car that had not been cleaned after the wreck (nasty, and I still see it to this day which is about 18 years later)...she was in a little 4-door car and fell asleep and drove underneath an 18-wheeler.  That sight was burned into my brain and I never forgot what drinking and driving could do, that we weren't invincible. 


I did hear of a school that was doing "shock presentations" to students, arranging to have 10 or so students missing from classes for the day, then the other students were told that they were killed in accidents from drinking.  While that is a bit extreme, I really think that shock works best on teenagers as I always thought I knew best and that nothing would ever happen. 


Tobacco and alcohol should be illegal.
who make poor decisions.

The 2 drugs that cause more death and damage are legal but shouldn't be.

I have a right NOT to pay for others' poor decision-making and to not worry about the impact hurled onto society from their actions.


rubbing alcohol for all things
I would not call the school. Let the alcohol soak for awhile and then pick it off. I say amen for art teachers, but just in case, The Children's Place is having a $5.00 t-shirt sale.
went to dinner, drank alcohol, went home...

took a Vicodin for pain, fell asleep, got up, stumbled, fell down, unconscious and friend tried administering CPR....to no avail while rescue was on their way


as it turned out, he had stopped taking his BP medications the 2 weeks prior, so that's the reason he died....we do believe......... but the combination of vicodin and drink contributed we also believe....


:(


I should clarify - that would be rubbing alcohol, not liquor! nm
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it was allowed because its passive (unlike alcohol) and
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Use of illegal drugs, alcohol consumption, and cigarette
smoking are just as prevalent today as they were 20+ years ago.  Perfect example:  Look at the DARE program, that was introducted in grade school amost 20 years ago.  There are no hard statistical facts that there are less drug abusers today than there were 20 years ago, so that 'program' was a complete failure and a waste of tons of money.  These types of behaviors will go on until the end of time.  No amount of education or imprisonment is every going to stop people from engaging in these types of behaviors.
alcohol makes her nuts, along with millions of other people.
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Definitely stress. Cops said once that Xmas eve with alcohol & money
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Prostitution, alcohol, pot, recreational drugs, cigarettes...sm...
ALL should be illegal.

Some are not out of 'tax reasons'.

How come that people can only relax when they are under the influence of whatever?????


I agree. I do use a cleaner especially for LCD screens non alcohol. You spray it on little cloths
they give you. 
Use water or rubbing alcohol on tummy, feet, inside ear
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Don't use alcohol. Fumes are no good. Just playing in a coolish bath while
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