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went to dinner, drank alcohol, went home...

Posted By: and dropped dead in his 50s.....sm on 2007-02-10
In Reply to: Can you elaborate? How did he die? - nm

took a Vicodin for pain, fell asleep, got up, stumbled, fell down, unconscious and friend tried administering CPR....to no avail while rescue was on their way


as it turned out, he had stopped taking his BP medications the 2 weeks prior, so that's the reason he died....we do believe......... but the combination of vicodin and drink contributed we also believe....


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Or you can drink alcohol at home : )
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you said it...but I never drank and others are cured..
Steve Tyler (Aerosmith) shared his info last year, that he completed Rebetron and was free of disease.  So, this is a good thing!  They are coming up with all new things of late, and this is great!!  I'm just happy I'm pretty healthy and I have had it for probably 35 years...I have to pinch myself to remind myself I have it. 
my mom and dad smoked and my dad drank sm
it played a big role to me. i never picked up a cigarette in my life and i don't drink. not sure why you took that post so personally.

we were born to mothers who smoked and drank
our cribs were covered in lead based paint. .And we turned out okay. . Your MIL would not EVER knowingly do anything to harm your child. . but 9 months old seems a little young - if she were older and could sit up and hold on, and MIL drove real slow, maybe it would be okay. . My dad used to take my daughter rides on the tractor - I worried but never said anything - it didn't happen often. . I think she should have asked you first.
If I drank tea in middle of night, I'd pee 3-4x before sun up. A quick shot puts me right
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a friend's b/friend died last year, drank, took vicodin...

100% against. Against alcohol, anyway. lol
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alcohol

Alcohol......
I personally don't drink with every meal but I do have wine now and then. A girlfriend of mine and her husband have a glass or two of wine just about every night with dinner and have for years, but I wouldn't say they have a problem.

I suppose you need to ask yourself if you didn't have it, would it stay on your mind until you had it.??
alcohol
I think 1-2 drinks a day is absolutely fine. It is relaxing, and I usually do the same. My mom has done it for years, has a glass of wine at lunch and 1 or 2 in the evening and she is well into her 80s and in perfect health! Enjoy yourself and ignore your roommate.
For those who suggested alcohol..sm
alcohol is a stimulant and will have just the opposite effect. Melatonin helps, but I don't like its after effects, and it does have some. I recently came across a native american remedy called Cloud Walking Tea. It is a tea and it works. I sleep peacefully with no after effects.
Alcohol is NOT a stimulant, but
it is very short-acting for people with a normal liver, so it helps many people fall asleep, but then they wake up again after a few hours.

I said that about the liver because I have read there are some people whose livers don't work right and really can't handle any alcohol. That's kind of scary because people don't find out until their liver is destroyed, apparently.
*Alcohol* is the key word here - sm
and reeking of it is definitely a red flag. How would they get to the lake? By car? Alcohol and cars = trouble. Also, alcohol and water are a bad combination as well. If you're still on the fence about it, you could call the friend's mother and ask if the father is going or not. Chances are she's heard this question before..........
No, I mean no alcohol period. nm

Against lowering and against alcohol
I have a BIL who is an alcoholic. I have seen first hand what it can do to kids and the family as a whole, hate the stuff!!!!!!!!
you don't know that for sure. He says he thinks he's an alcohol.
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Or could he be using alcohol as excuse without
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personality/alcohol
Both, I think. Alcohol makes personality traits creep out from under the woodwork. Surly, sarcastic, belittling, called me four letter words in front of the kids. Yes, I consider the way he talks to you to be abuse, especially if this is how he talks to you most of the time. Of course, everything was my fault. An alcoholic does no wrong. It is never their fault, even when they are down to their last dime with no family left. My children were 14 and 16. However, they did not go with me. He had brainwashed them into thinking that he was the only one who could provide for them, that I could only work for minimus wage and that they would have nothing without him. I stayed in the same town, we had joint custody, he had residential. He has since died and my kids and I are fine.
what about alcohol? that's legal
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or drugs combined w/alcohol
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OMG!!! Does he supply them with drugs and alcohol
so they will be doing that in the safety of their home as well?

I am floored by that reasoning. Its as if there is no hope of teaching a child to make smart choices so might as well have them do it in front of you. What on earth is that teaching them?? I'm sorry but you do not need to be a parent to see how completely asinine that is.

By the way, you should ask him if his home is "safe" enough to preclude AIDS and other STDs, pregnancy, etc. Maybe he thinks there is some soft of "force field" protecting her there. Egads.
oh yeah, that too...alcohol....*lol*. forgot...sm

And I usually NEVER have air in my brain *ROFL*....thanks for the laugh!! 


Abstinence of ALL alcohol is the trick !!!
This method will allow you to know what you are doing at ALL times and prevent taking the life of another individual.  Easy on your organs, too.  Good example for your children . . . and on and on and on
When my now 20 yo DD told me about her drugs and alcohol sm
I asked that she wait until she was out of high school to have sex, because it carries big consequences and she needed to be ready for that. For that she waited for that, but tried marijuana twice and got drunk a couple of times too. I was shocked by my "good girl."
former teenage alcohol user

I don't know if this is too "harsh" for your daughter, but have you thought about showing her the results of drinking and/or driving?  I drank A LOT in high school, starting around 15 when my mom got sick and continued daily drinking through graduation and then some.  Did my fair share of drinking and driving or riding in cars with drivers who drank, thinking that nothing would ever happen.  My sister who was 5 years older than me died from drinking and driving when I was 18, and to "show" me and my teenage cousins the consequences, we went with my uncle to see her car that had not been cleaned after the wreck (nasty, and I still see it to this day which is about 18 years later)...she was in a little 4-door car and fell asleep and drove underneath an 18-wheeler.  That sight was burned into my brain and I never forgot what drinking and driving could do, that we weren't invincible. 


I did hear of a school that was doing "shock presentations" to students, arranging to have 10 or so students missing from classes for the day, then the other students were told that they were killed in accidents from drinking.  While that is a bit extreme, I really think that shock works best on teenagers as I always thought I knew best and that nothing would ever happen. 


Tobacco and alcohol should be illegal.
who make poor decisions.

The 2 drugs that cause more death and damage are legal but shouldn't be.

I have a right NOT to pay for others' poor decision-making and to not worry about the impact hurled onto society from their actions.


rubbing alcohol for all things
I would not call the school. Let the alcohol soak for awhile and then pick it off. I say amen for art teachers, but just in case, The Children's Place is having a $5.00 t-shirt sale.
Buy a home of my own - not a palace, but more of a smallish home on a large piece of land. (nm)
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Anyone move from a single family home to mobile home? sm

I own and live in a house in a midwest city in a bad neighborhood (wasn't that bad 11 years ago).  I spent the day waiting for the plumber to come and jackhammer the foundation (slab house, no basement) to find a leaky pipe that is flooding my DD's bedroom. Last week, it was the electrician with quotes for costly repairs.


In the meantime, I've really been thinking about selling out and moving into a mobile home.  Has anyone done this before?  Is a mobile home in a decent park less of a hassle than a regular house?  I'm so tired of cutting the grass and spending $$ to fix things and tired of old flooring and cabinets, etc., that are just too costly to replace.  I'm single with no man to do these things for me and I can't afford a mortgage on a newer house in a good neighborhood.  Some of the pictures I've seen of the mobile homes look really nice and modern on the inside. 


Any advice and comments appreciated.  Thanks!


Well I figure I can make my own hours & be home when the kids are home (sm)
I worked PT in an office for a while but spent most of my money on childcare in the summer. Full-time in an office was just a nightmare and I felt like I missed a whole year of my children's lives. I want to be in control of my schedule so that's why I'm looking into the cleaning thing. Never thought I would want to do that but live and learn! Some of the most intelligent people alive work as carpenters and similar things because they have learned what's really important in life. Whew....off my soapbox now :-) Good luck to you!
I should clarify - that would be rubbing alcohol, not liquor! nm
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it was allowed because its passive (unlike alcohol) and
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Use of illegal drugs, alcohol consumption, and cigarette
smoking are just as prevalent today as they were 20+ years ago.  Perfect example:  Look at the DARE program, that was introducted in grade school amost 20 years ago.  There are no hard statistical facts that there are less drug abusers today than there were 20 years ago, so that 'program' was a complete failure and a waste of tons of money.  These types of behaviors will go on until the end of time.  No amount of education or imprisonment is every going to stop people from engaging in these types of behaviors.
alcohol makes her nuts, along with millions of other people.
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Definitely stress. Cops said once that Xmas eve with alcohol & money
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Prostitution, alcohol, pot, recreational drugs, cigarettes...sm...
ALL should be illegal.

Some are not out of 'tax reasons'.

How come that people can only relax when they are under the influence of whatever?????


I agree. I do use a cleaner especially for LCD screens non alcohol. You spray it on little cloths
they give you. 
Use water or rubbing alcohol on tummy, feet, inside ear
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Don't use alcohol. Fumes are no good. Just playing in a coolish bath while
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Daniel had a home, a very good home...
with someone in my family at one point.

She met her late husband at a club down the freeway from me. It's not a fancy place, like you say.

She does have a real brother though. That was the connection on our part.

I agree, though. It is sad that all this is coming out the way it is. I believe she was a good person...she just had a lot of problems, mainly drugs. What is really sad is that all of this is going to be seen by her daughter one day when she grows up.
Home Alone 1, A Christmas Story, Home for the Holidays, Chevy Chase's Christmas, sm
There "The Gift of the Magi," He sells his gold watch to buy her a comb for her hair and she sells her beautiful long hair to buy him a chain for his gold watch. It used to be on "Short Stories by O'Henry" but that's long gone, long ago. Good moral to the story. I can't stand "It's a Wonderful Life" -- too depressing, especially with banks closing, too intimidating right now!!!
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Usually once or twice a week with friends and/or the children.
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I don't remember the first dinner I prepared for my then boyfriend, now husband...but I do remember the first dinner he ate at my house. It was butter beans, meatloaf, and fried potatos and cornbread! I was mortified when my mom asked him to stay then proceeded to give him the menu for the night. Well, to my disbelief, he absolutely loved butter beans...this was his favorite meal. I about died, being a 16 YO girl, but he loved it!
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This is inexpensive if you buy the pork loin on sale. I'm making some for a party tomorrow.

Usually 3-4 pounds of pork feeds 3 of us for about 3 days, unless one of us is really hungry. lol
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What's for dinner? Looking for inspiration.
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