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Are you judging her mother by what

Posted By: TM on 2007-02-22
In Reply to: Anna Nicole - an old friend - MTT

she told you or personal experience?


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You ARE judging -- judging businesses open and
It IS judgementalism at it's finest.

You think because someone doesn't agree with YOUR views, that THEY should have to work on that day, simply because of views.

You think that because someone might celebrate Christmas on Dec 20 due to family/schedule issues, that THEY shouldn't be able to live a normal life on Dec 25.

Very, very judgemental and extremely limited in perspective.

I understand you are Pentecostal. I'm more than familiar with that denomination. It has nothing to do with any of the topics you state. It just makes a bigger emphasis in my mind of WHY you think like you do. Sad.

I hope you have a good day. I'm thankful I am not like you. You don't make me want to be in any way. How's that for being an example and drawing others to Him? You're repelling, not drawing.

Go have yourself a great religious day.

Where did you get that I was judging anyone?
I'm not judging anyone, ks. And, I don't get what you're talking about regarding "spewing the word from your mouth and acting differently behind closed doors". I try to be humble in my faith. As I said, I may not agree with a person's lifestyle, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't be respectful to him/her. God put us on this Earth to do HIS work or genuinely didn't you know that? This thread was about what stores wouldn't you shop at and I replied that I wouldn't shop at WalMart because they sell gay/lesbian material. That is because I do not agree with it because I believe the scripture referring to homosexuality as being sinful, ungodly, and an abomination.
I don't know where you got that I was judging YOU or your son in law. sm
I never said anything disparaging about you. The worst I said about him was that it sounded like he was underprepared (you didn't give a big history on his work experience other than that he was new to cold call sales, which is what I commented on).
I certainly didn't judge him for taking a job, only questioned if it was the right job for him.

And where did you get that I thought it was "nonsense?" I never said that, never implied that.

I DID give you suggestions that YOU could do to ease your mind...you really can find a LOT of your needed info simply by Googling. That wasn't a demeaning response, it was truthful...I checked it out before I suggested it.

I kicked NO ONE when they were down.
I am not judging, if I were then I
would talk to her about her excessive alcohol use, her marijuana use and on and so forth. I am not past talking with, but frankly I have felt she is very judgemental, critical of me and just does not even take the time to know me as I am. I do not ever get in her life, stay on 1 side of town and she on the other. Just like she said walking on egg shells, that has been my take on her for a very long time.
Here we go again. Judge not, I'm not judging. I am following
that is how I can say what a store should and shouldn't sell!
No, you won't change me otherwise. I'm not judging
the Bible. God will judge in the end.  I simply don't shop at stores that sell gay and lesbian items.
I agree...too much judging others. nm
nm
and not judging you at all-happy that you (sm)
have not experienced the horrible guilt that many of us have. Some do and some do not, but it is a risk...you don't know for sure how you will feel until later. It is sort of a knee-jerk reaction oftentimes, to try to quickly "solve the problem" but many people have terrible guilt years later and have to get help with it.
Judging people I don't know:

If you're one of the sickos who defend their right to abuse children because it's their religion, you deserve to be judged along with them. 


I'm not judging you but with there being so many women who do (sm)
have terrible guilt and remorse after ABs it would seem that there should be more involved to get one, at least a visit with an unbiased psychiatrist who tells the full story of how one might feel later. I had someone say to me, "Now this is your decision right? Later on you don't get to blame anyone else, not your boyfriend, not your friends, no one else." I said I wouldn't and that was the extent of my counseling. This was in the mid-90s. I think you should have to go apply for one, be given a counseling session, wait a week or two, and see if that is still what you want to do. I think women should be given extensive information on all of their options and possible emotional repercussions so that at least when they make their own personal "choice" at least it is a well-informed choice. For me it is not so much guilt toward God as it is to the child I allowed to be killed. It is not a religious thing at all.
No one is judging a dog. Dogs

don't know right from wrong.  They are animals.  The point that I continue to make is that IT DOES NOT MATTER what this elderly man did.  The pets in the home attacked and killed him.  No PET should ever be capable by temperament of attacking and killing a human being. 


For the sake of your argument, if the man reached out with a cane and rapped the dog on the head, in your mind would that  justify the reactions of the dog to kill the person who struck him?  How many other dog breeds would run behind the couch or under a table when confronted with abusive treatment?  How many other dog breeds would growl? Bark?  Nip?  Bite?  No one is saying that an animal should not defend itself, but a dog whose defense is to kill a human is a dog that should NOT be kept as a pet.  A dog is an animal and does not think like a human, as you have pointed out, and that is precisely the thing that makes them unpredictable and makes the pitbull breed attacked unprovoked.  It is all in what the dog perceives as a threat, which a human cannot always predict, or more importantly, cannot always prevent. 


Tyne Daily, Judging Amy, NM
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Stop judging people who you do not know

Not judging honey, believe me, I speak...

my mind and you could tell if I was judging others. This place is teeming with unhappy, whining, complaining women (just look at some of the posts all over this site) and that is not a judgement, it is fact. As far as being in the same situation as others one day, if you read any of my posts you would see that I have been there, done that and changed my ways. Should something happen, we have learned to save money, have enough put away to last a year and not have to touch any retirement, etc. That took a lot of determination and hard work on our part and we are proud of it.


I am get a good chuckle out of some women who accuse other women of "living off their husbands" and "where would you be without his money". I can make my own money, but my husband doesn't tell me that i need to work and doesn't tell me how much I need to make. He is the provider in this family and has never once asked me to work harder, earn more or get a different job. Remember when men used to do that and our mother's stayed home and raised the family and didn't work? Are you jealous of your girl friends or family members that don't have to work or who live debt free or do you hold that judgement for those you do not know?


Enough of this for now. I'm sure someone will have something to bash me about later on...go ahead, it just shows how very immature some women can be.


Yeah, that would make me ill. I am not judging you by any means sm
as to the whys of your son living with them. If you were married to a husband like mine and then had 3 boys totally dedicated to sports - when it comes to that I have NO SAY whatsoever about my 3 sons playing ball. Their dad takes care of all of that. I don't think I'd let them move away and I don't my husband would either, BUT, if they did and my ex sister in law was the way you describe yours to be, then I'd be very upset too!

Right now I don't get along with my in laws. At all. Never have. And to imagine that one of my boys living with them. Ugh. Makes me ill just thinking about that.

What the he## is her problem with you any way? I mean, seriously? If she had any sense whatsoever she would smile, be sweet, and only say nice things about you ALWAYS.

Listen, hon. Trust me on this one. Your son will grow up and see her true colors and resent her if she continues to spew hate or not like you, etc. You are his mom. I know my boys would be the same if anyone disrespected me like that. I mean, their own dad can't even look at me wrong before they are all over him like you know what.

Let the natural thing just happen. Do the right thing. Say the right thing. Be there for him, always. Ask about his aunt. Be a huge part of his life even if he isn't there with you. Call often. And if she continues to be a twit, then you will be the winner in the end, even though right now it may not feel like it.

Good luck.
Someone who is atheist clearly is not going to Heaven. No judging, just stating fact as
per the Holy Bible.
I wasn't judging, just stating the facts ma'am....
these were things that were mentioned in the trial. And the baby and the methadone thing was accused by Larry B, I think he would know if she was taking methadone, and she was on something, we all know that.
Well I guess it is a pretty sensational story judging by the media coverage!
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Whatever my mother-in-law and mother are cooking--lol
we go to my in-laws for Christmas Eve and usually have ham and kielbasa (we are Polish) and then my mom usually has turkey or roasted chicken on Christmas Day
I agree - a mother is a mother and a daughter is a daughter for life sm
despite the problems they had, which i truly believe stem for anna's drug problems. obviously her mom wasn't too bad or she would not have raised daniel for a while. i think the mother wants her buried in Texas so the grave will be close enough that she can go visit it without having to come up with expenses of going to the bahamas to get there. although i contradict that too in poor anna needs to be buried with her son.
I get frustrated by the double standard they use when judging people. They let certain people go sa
What do you think about the voting process?
I agree with you - not judging either but agree (nm)
:)
mother in-law help sm

Ok, so here is what is going on.  My mother in-law fell down some stairs and broke her leg.  She did not have insurance.  She had not been to a doctor in 27 years.  She has been in the hospital for about 4 days.  They had to do surgery and things are looking good.  She will have to have rehab for a few months, use a walker and so on.  Well, guess who they ask to take care of her for the next few months?  The "stay-at-home" mom who has all the free time in the world haha (not to mention I have a 3 year old who stays at home with me and a busy 6 year old in school).  This would consist of me taking her to the restroom, bathing, changing dressings, helping with rehab exercises, not to mention working 8 hours a day and making sure my 3 year old doesn't climb on her.  I feel bad for saying no, but I think that they should feel bad for asking me.  She has 5 children.  I feel that it is way too much responsibility for me to take on and that it absurd that they asked me.  Aren't there facilities where she can go at least for the 1st month?  Please help, just need advise. 


 


And for anyone who wants to say "if it was your mother..."  Believe it or not, in June MY mother fell down some stairs and broke her ankle.  I was at her house every afternoon and we had people come in multiple times daily to check on her.  However, the mother in-law is about 25 years older and the extent of the injury is greater.  I would have never asked my husband to take care of her and help her do these things. 


My mother-in-law
My mother-in-law keeps giving my Longaberger baskets for b-days and Christmas.  She loves these baskets and has over 100.  She visits the factory several times a year, (about a 4 1/2 hour drive) and often takes the female family members with her.  These baskets are beautiful but I am just not a basket person.  I don't mean to sound ungrateful, but these baskets are expensive and I have over 20.  When I tried to mention to her as politely as possible that I just don't need any more baskets, she told me that she often changes hers out so she can enjoy them all.  I would much rather have sheets, bath towels, cookware, or even a gift certificate for dinner.  My hubby and I have been married 19 years, have to children, and have a very good relationship with my mother-in-law.  She is a fabulous grandmother, but I am really tired of the baskets.  Any suggestions?
I also have MVP and so does my mother...
so I don't know if there is a correlation or not between the two...
My mother's cat
looked like it had mange and when I asked the vet about it he said he had never seen a cat with mange.  A friend told my mom that cats are extremely allergic to poinsettas and my mother had one sitting in the cat's favorite window.  After she threw out the flower the cat got better very quickly.
It's up to your mother-in-law to keep them in the

them.  Your sister-in-law should not even bring them over there anymore in my opinion.  If your mother-in-law's gate cannot hold them in for sure, then she absolutely should not watch them.


Your sister-in-law sounds selfish to me, so point out to her that it is unsafe for her OWN animals to be out running free, as anyone would have the right to shoot them if they were on their property threatening them.  Maybe then she will care!  Plus she (or you mom-in-law) could be sued if the dogs injure or kill someone or someone's animals.  Not to mention they would have to live with that for the rest of their lives.


Having seen my own mother do a 180
since the death of my own dad 3-1/2 years ago and learning the hard way from things that have happened - I would just keep my mouth shut and say nothing and do nothing.
mother . ..
This may not be comforting to you, but I wish my mom (also 80) would do something like that. I think she would enjoy the company, and the activities. We have an awesome ALF here in our town; it's like a mini city!!!! Be glad she is making this decision for you and that you don't have to push her. She may benefit tremendously from this!!!!
My mother once said and she was right...sm

tis better to raise children in a happy divorced home than a miserable married one.


I divorced my kids father and within 3 years, all of us were in a much better place and now, 16 years later, this still holds true!!!  This, I swear!! 


I really have to believe that my Mother is up there
watching over her grandchildren. She lived for those kids and that truely was one of the things that hurt me the most when she died so suddenly. My niece is leaving for college in Aug. My son got his license and did very well in the state Forensics competition. Little things like that are the things that she would have been so proud of. I know my mother was a christian but I just hope that she is able to see us here on earth. Thank you for your response.
what was his mother like?
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My mother does this to me!

She does it all the time and it's infuriating!!!  She interrupts my sentence by finishing it herself and it drives me absolutely crazy.  I've asked her nicely, I've asked her rudely, it still continues and I have just given up.  She's not going to change, especially at her age.  Sometimes when she interrupts me, I'll just stop talking altogether and that's the end of the conversation.  Try turning the tables and doing it to your boyfriend incessantly and see if he gets the point.


 I feel your pain!!


For Mother's Day...sm

my wonderful DIL made me a CD from pictures of my two sons from tiny baby up to my older son's wedding (my younger son was Best Man).  Her choice of music and pictures were all just perfect.  I LOVE IT!


I wish my mother would be
I don't think I'd be so hip on her folding my panties, lol, but seriously it sounds like she has very good intentions. My MIL lives out-of-state and I wish she lived closer so I could spend more time with her. We all have our quirks. I would love it if my MIL or my own mother took the initiative to check my children's homework, etc. It would be different I suppose if she lived across the street from you but since she is that far away, I'd let her enjoy herself. Had she gone through YOUR MAIL or something private like that, I would be concerned.
My own mother does this

I have told her especially when H is here especially to knock first.  She never seems to get the message through her head. 


 


mother
Do we have the same mother? You have to be my sister - I have a very wonderful mother. The only problem is, I cannot seem to please her - EVER. She is a person who is constantly doing and giving, so people think she is a saint. Only with me is bitter, hates the Holidays, hates the whole gift thing, decorating, etc. I absolutely love to decorate, but gifts, fancy wrapping, etc. I keep telling myself she won't be here forever, and try to "play nice" but sometimes could just scream "Okay, I get it - I will never be pious enough or frugal enough (unless the Q gets any worse) for you." Anyway, don't feel alone. I feel your pain. Have a wonderful holiday season and if you get any more frustrated, email me - we can trade frustrations.
My mother used this when I was a kid
and I saw some in the store just the other day, smiled to myself, brings back memories.
Of course, he does. But what would your mother
x
Mother's Day!

I met my daughter for lunch Saturday and it was great!  Unfortunately she live about 35 miles away and traffic was horrendous.  But all worth it of course.  Sunday at church and hanging out with some friends - great weekend!


 


my mother-in-law and I SM
we actually do look alot alike, and people often assume I am her daughter. On the other hand, we are total opposites in personality.
If her mother was like this...sm
Then I guess she just inherited this disposition unfortunately. God knows why they bred this dog if it was this bad that they had to put it down 6 months after having pups. I hate you had that experience. I wish you could have had a good experience with your pit. But I understand.
what my mother always did sm
she sent us outside with disposable tshirts, to suck the goodies out of the pomegranetes. very staining and nasty for kids clothing, but delicious. it was a ritual.
I'm with the other mother...
If you don't like your grandkids, don't baby sit. I have a child, whom I think is wonderful. I resent anyone telling me that I am not parenting the way they would. You raised your kids and it is time to let your daughter do the same. I am sure that she is not trying to ruin her children. How would you have felt if this criticism were coming to you instead of from you?
when I became a mother
I put up with every single drop of crap until I became a mother. I could not stand up for myself, but I could stand up for my child.
But, it is something her mother is against and that is
having sex prior to being married. Her mother also was against teaching forms of birth control in the Alaska schools. Her mother would condone if others- I guess her daughter is an exception. There is no good reason now for a girl to get pregnant- too much birth control out there. Besides, what a way to start- neither kid has finished their education, no one has a job, shotgun wedding- if there is one, won't last. I guess Levi and Bristol could work with the guy's mother in her meth lab.
Our Mother

My mother has 4 daughters, 22 years between the first daughter and the last.  Each time a daughter marries, the mother tries to come between the couple by getting the daughter to say bad things about the husband and leave him.  She unfortunately has had two bad marriages herself, but is still married to the second husband despite his infidelities.  With each marriage, the pressure is applied earlier to the daughter.


We are now on the marriage of the third daughter.  She had been married for  90 days and the pressure is being applied pretty severely for her to leave her new husband and move back home with mother.


The first daughter has not spoken to mother for 14 years due to this compulsive behavior.  The second daughter fell for it once and doesn't want to be divorced again, and is actually relieved there is another target.


Loyalty to mother is the only acceptable behavior.  Daughter number two is not convinced daughter number three will be able to take the heat.


Anybody know about these things?


If I were the G-mother, I'd run away - very far
certifiably rubber-room material.

The obstetrician who delivered the letter should've done the world a favor, and surreptitiously tied her tubes.
This had to do with my mother but will just say
her nephew, her sister's son, was dyslexic when he was young. My mother from what I have been told, made fun of him, calling him retarded, etc. This cousin grew up to own his own company, build and invent things, had a brillant mind. He might not have been able to spell and/or learn his ABCs but the end result was someone of superior intelligence.
your mother
I have said it before and I will say it again. Your mother needs to handle your dad. She should feel guilty/responsible/etc. Not you. He isn't trying to get is milk for free. (pun intended), he wants your mom to take him back. This isn't even about you!
Son and mother's day

My son is nearly 40, has a very good IT computer job. He's never been good about remembering my birthday, mother's day or christmas. Usually his wife would cover for him, not always, but enough that I didn't usually say anything or complain if one of these occasions were missed. However, he and his wife have split up and now I realize that I don't even get a card or a phone call on any of these occasions!  Nothing. In the past I had thought about "forgetting" his birthday once in a while, but now I am so mad that I feel like never sending him another card with money, etc. But then I think that he is still my son and just because he can't be bothered to call or send a card on my birthday, or on mother's day or at christmas that I should just let it go and not be a petty person and go ahead and continue with my remembrances. 


Thoughts?