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I'm not judging you but with there being so many women who do (sm)

Posted By: Anonymous1 on 2008-09-16
In Reply to: I had one 29 years ago and DO NOT REGRET IT AT ALL. SM - NBA

have terrible guilt and remorse after ABs it would seem that there should be more involved to get one, at least a visit with an unbiased psychiatrist who tells the full story of how one might feel later. I had someone say to me, "Now this is your decision right? Later on you don't get to blame anyone else, not your boyfriend, not your friends, no one else." I said I wouldn't and that was the extent of my counseling. This was in the mid-90s. I think you should have to go apply for one, be given a counseling session, wait a week or two, and see if that is still what you want to do. I think women should be given extensive information on all of their options and possible emotional repercussions so that at least when they make their own personal "choice" at least it is a well-informed choice. For me it is not so much guilt toward God as it is to the child I allowed to be killed. It is not a religious thing at all.


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You ARE judging -- judging businesses open and
It IS judgementalism at it's finest.

You think because someone doesn't agree with YOUR views, that THEY should have to work on that day, simply because of views.

You think that because someone might celebrate Christmas on Dec 20 due to family/schedule issues, that THEY shouldn't be able to live a normal life on Dec 25.

Very, very judgemental and extremely limited in perspective.

I understand you are Pentecostal. I'm more than familiar with that denomination. It has nothing to do with any of the topics you state. It just makes a bigger emphasis in my mind of WHY you think like you do. Sad.

I hope you have a good day. I'm thankful I am not like you. You don't make me want to be in any way. How's that for being an example and drawing others to Him? You're repelling, not drawing.

Go have yourself a great religious day.

Where did you get that I was judging anyone?
I'm not judging anyone, ks. And, I don't get what you're talking about regarding "spewing the word from your mouth and acting differently behind closed doors". I try to be humble in my faith. As I said, I may not agree with a person's lifestyle, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't be respectful to him/her. God put us on this Earth to do HIS work or genuinely didn't you know that? This thread was about what stores wouldn't you shop at and I replied that I wouldn't shop at WalMart because they sell gay/lesbian material. That is because I do not agree with it because I believe the scripture referring to homosexuality as being sinful, ungodly, and an abomination.
I don't know where you got that I was judging YOU or your son in law. sm
I never said anything disparaging about you. The worst I said about him was that it sounded like he was underprepared (you didn't give a big history on his work experience other than that he was new to cold call sales, which is what I commented on).
I certainly didn't judge him for taking a job, only questioned if it was the right job for him.

And where did you get that I thought it was "nonsense?" I never said that, never implied that.

I DID give you suggestions that YOU could do to ease your mind...you really can find a LOT of your needed info simply by Googling. That wasn't a demeaning response, it was truthful...I checked it out before I suggested it.

I kicked NO ONE when they were down.
I am not judging, if I were then I
would talk to her about her excessive alcohol use, her marijuana use and on and so forth. I am not past talking with, but frankly I have felt she is very judgemental, critical of me and just does not even take the time to know me as I am. I do not ever get in her life, stay on 1 side of town and she on the other. Just like she said walking on egg shells, that has been my take on her for a very long time.
Here we go again. Judge not, I'm not judging. I am following
that is how I can say what a store should and shouldn't sell!
No, you won't change me otherwise. I'm not judging
the Bible. God will judge in the end.  I simply don't shop at stores that sell gay and lesbian items.
I agree...too much judging others. nm
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Are you judging her mother by what
she told you or personal experience?
and not judging you at all-happy that you (sm)
have not experienced the horrible guilt that many of us have. Some do and some do not, but it is a risk...you don't know for sure how you will feel until later. It is sort of a knee-jerk reaction oftentimes, to try to quickly "solve the problem" but many people have terrible guilt years later and have to get help with it.
Judging people I don't know:

If you're one of the sickos who defend their right to abuse children because it's their religion, you deserve to be judged along with them. 


No one is judging a dog. Dogs

don't know right from wrong.  They are animals.  The point that I continue to make is that IT DOES NOT MATTER what this elderly man did.  The pets in the home attacked and killed him.  No PET should ever be capable by temperament of attacking and killing a human being. 


For the sake of your argument, if the man reached out with a cane and rapped the dog on the head, in your mind would that  justify the reactions of the dog to kill the person who struck him?  How many other dog breeds would run behind the couch or under a table when confronted with abusive treatment?  How many other dog breeds would growl? Bark?  Nip?  Bite?  No one is saying that an animal should not defend itself, but a dog whose defense is to kill a human is a dog that should NOT be kept as a pet.  A dog is an animal and does not think like a human, as you have pointed out, and that is precisely the thing that makes them unpredictable and makes the pitbull breed attacked unprovoked.  It is all in what the dog perceives as a threat, which a human cannot always predict, or more importantly, cannot always prevent. 


Tyne Daily, Judging Amy, NM
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Stop judging people who you do not know

Not judging honey, believe me, I speak...

my mind and you could tell if I was judging others. This place is teeming with unhappy, whining, complaining women (just look at some of the posts all over this site) and that is not a judgement, it is fact. As far as being in the same situation as others one day, if you read any of my posts you would see that I have been there, done that and changed my ways. Should something happen, we have learned to save money, have enough put away to last a year and not have to touch any retirement, etc. That took a lot of determination and hard work on our part and we are proud of it.


I am get a good chuckle out of some women who accuse other women of "living off their husbands" and "where would you be without his money". I can make my own money, but my husband doesn't tell me that i need to work and doesn't tell me how much I need to make. He is the provider in this family and has never once asked me to work harder, earn more or get a different job. Remember when men used to do that and our mother's stayed home and raised the family and didn't work? Are you jealous of your girl friends or family members that don't have to work or who live debt free or do you hold that judgement for those you do not know?


Enough of this for now. I'm sure someone will have something to bash me about later on...go ahead, it just shows how very immature some women can be.


Yeah, that would make me ill. I am not judging you by any means sm
as to the whys of your son living with them. If you were married to a husband like mine and then had 3 boys totally dedicated to sports - when it comes to that I have NO SAY whatsoever about my 3 sons playing ball. Their dad takes care of all of that. I don't think I'd let them move away and I don't my husband would either, BUT, if they did and my ex sister in law was the way you describe yours to be, then I'd be very upset too!

Right now I don't get along with my in laws. At all. Never have. And to imagine that one of my boys living with them. Ugh. Makes me ill just thinking about that.

What the he## is her problem with you any way? I mean, seriously? If she had any sense whatsoever she would smile, be sweet, and only say nice things about you ALWAYS.

Listen, hon. Trust me on this one. Your son will grow up and see her true colors and resent her if she continues to spew hate or not like you, etc. You are his mom. I know my boys would be the same if anyone disrespected me like that. I mean, their own dad can't even look at me wrong before they are all over him like you know what.

Let the natural thing just happen. Do the right thing. Say the right thing. Be there for him, always. Ask about his aunt. Be a huge part of his life even if he isn't there with you. Call often. And if she continues to be a twit, then you will be the winner in the end, even though right now it may not feel like it.

Good luck.
Someone who is atheist clearly is not going to Heaven. No judging, just stating fact as
per the Holy Bible.
I wasn't judging, just stating the facts ma'am....
these were things that were mentioned in the trial. And the baby and the methadone thing was accused by Larry B, I think he would know if she was taking methadone, and she was on something, we all know that.
Well I guess it is a pretty sensational story judging by the media coverage!
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I get frustrated by the double standard they use when judging people. They let certain people go sa
What do you think about the voting process?
Why do women always seem...
to be the guinea pigs for pharmaceutical companies? There is no way would I want my granddaughters subjected to this.
But you and I both know, women
have always and as far as I can see will continue to carry the burden. If we did not take birth control and it was left to a man to tell us they had taken a pill, would you want to chance that? I don't think so. If a woman has a child a lot of men can and do turn their backs and who is responsible then? It is the woman again. I take the responsibility for my own health- I would never want to leave up to a husband/partner to assure me he had taken his medicine for STD??/used his birth control??/infertile???/etc., etc. This is the reason you see lots of females left holding the bag because they do want to put trust in their man.
I think 90% of women...
Find their husbands repulsive and repugnant. You are not alone. Just close your eyes and go to your happy place.

Have you ever seen what those women look like?
Kids that age just want to fit in, not look like their mom or the lady at the Macy's counter. I let my daughter wear what she wanted even I thought it looked pretty bad at times. She is now 18 and wears appropriate make up for an 18yo.
I know these women are old but
Tina Turner and also Cher both have the ole folks spread now. I guess some of these so called actresses in Hollywood that are size 0 minus only have to wait some years and there you go.
Women, you don’t have to put up with this
My husband just told me a few minutes ago I was his best friend (as he is mine) and he was so glad he had married me, how others do not seem to get along, fighting all the time, yelling, upset- this is definitely not our life. Ladies, there are good guys out there- please look, don’t settle for more than you deserve.
well, of course the women
would win!  We have about four different versions of it. 
that's what I mean. For women like you
whose husband is better looking than themselves, this story is especially insulting and hurtful. A very bitter joke (?)
I look far better than my husband, but I am not going to look for a 22-year-old, never came into my female mind.

A really good joke should NEVER insult anybody!
Excellent!!! More women should do this....
              
Women's work

I agree with the OP concerning professionalism.  I believe it comes from anything that jobs that (primarily) women perform having the perception of not being serious work.  If she is working at home, that perception is doubled.  I also agree with having a schedule and sticking to it; plus if you have help to do your primary work, do it and don't feel guilty.  Generally doing many things at once means you cannot do anything well in my opinion.  But I do have to admit what works for one person doesn't work for others. 


We know we have historically multi-tasked.  I remember my daddy telling about my grandmother helping my grandfather with plowing at times, guiding the mule's head and leaving her baby under a shade tree, with a brick holding down the child's gown and the family dog keeping watch. She wasn't thought of as neglectful--just doing what had to be done.   Unfortunately, women have to work harder and be smarter than men to be competitive and we just have to know in our hearts we contribute significantly to society.  What's that old joke--luckily that's not too hard!  


why is it that women SEEM to be desperate in....

If things were so good with the OP with her current marriage, do ya think she'd be online reconnecting with anybody?!?!?!?!


So many women appear desperate to me in their 50s...and I don't know why because I'm in my late 50s and am never desperate sounding, appearing, etc......I just don't get it.  And no, I have chosen not to be married any longer for the past 16 years......


you know that old sayin?  want a man in my life, not in my house full time?!?!??!! 



Good for you, but I'm just saying some women don't need or want a man....
thank you very much ;)
Women who shop with their
What is the deal with st**pid women who think they are special enough to take their dogs to the malls, grocery stores and other places these dogs shouldn't be? I was at Macy's today and a little dog in a woman's purse barked at people passing by. I made some rude comments to the woman but why do stores allow these people to continue to shop?

Unfortunately most men say that to women who are overweight.
Pay more attention to who he is checking out/drooling over on TV - bet it isn't Roseann Barr or Camryn Manheim! lol
I will never understand some women

It's a beautiful day today, and a co-worker was saying she'd love to go home and take her dog for a walk. But her husband is home sick and he won't let her go without him.


She does stuff like that all the time. I think the only place she's allowed to go by herself is work. She can't go to the grocery or get gas or to the drugstore without him. She has no friends other than their joint friends.


Drives me nuts. What kind of a life is that? I guess it's OK for her, but I would hate to always have to be chaperoned by my husband.


Women, what are you thinking?
You are staying with a guy because he is too big?? You are staying because of the kids?? This is not the dark ages. You are probably not slaves (although I did read the other day about some foreign folks being held slaves in another state somewhere). You have no idea how fast life goes by on you. I so wish I had done differently than to stay with a guy who did not treat me right- but having said that, years ago when I called the police to get away from my husband- and this was years ago- told they could not intervene being as we were married. Now, dear, times have changed. You can leave, can get assistance and can be in charge of your own lives. I wish a thousand times or more I had met this present husband and lead such a delicious life like now. You will wake up 1 day, believe me when i tell you this, and wonder what you have done with your life, where did it go, just like a flash you are in your 50s or 60s- don’t still be miserable when you reach the age where I am now. Life can be really good and beautiful. I have been down the same streets.
Some women go only with married men
I am totally not surprised at what you said. I have an ex-coworker and she goes with a married man, does not care and would not have it otherwise. She cares nothing about marrying him so this is not uncommon for women not to care-and the other way as well. Unlike the other posts above, this man is saying he no longer loves her. I probably would think, other woman, in a case like this. If I knew no one around, I would probably want to be closer to my family. A cheating man never ever changes- they might lie low for awhile but yours has not changed and gosh darn, I would never want to be with someone who caught a disease- he might bring something home that a shot just doesn’t work for! There are really good guys out there that will love and treat a woman right, don’t have to settle for someone who professes not to love you. Why beat a dead horse and stay because of kids. Not this lady.
sad to say-women will never be able to run Africa.

Women will never run Africa (who is Oprah kidding?!) as long as Arab terrorists known as Janjaweed are still controlling at least 80% of Africa.........


Women running Africa - Don't I wish!!!  But it's more backwards there than here - and we know how most feel about having a woman run THIS country............. and for Africa it certainly isn't going to happen in our time or Oprah's time either........unfortunately.


Yup, there are skinny women
who have 2 teeth and a moustache who can't seem to climb up the evolutionary rung so I would say that statement was false. If I understood the odd statement...LOL
I don't know how women in the past did that - sm
I mean for me it hurt like the dickens (unfortunately did "it" twice that fateful evening) and I couldn't walk without incredible pain for days afterwards. Who would want to deal with that on their honeymoon? Certain would kill the urge.... Now maybe that is not the norm, but I swear childbirth was easier.
Women of Faith
Hi, Country MT - I love WOF.  Have been to 2.  Really can't pick a favorite; they are all great!  Sounds like you are a Christian also - oh, no - will I get in trouble for using that word?  By your name, I'm assuming you live in middle of nowhere; I do too.  Tiny, tiny town in IL, 400 people max.  I love this board.  Gives me an outlet when bored.  I really should be on working toward the bonus, but it is Saturday, will get to it sometime today. 
Bright women
We started to "bud" in our blouses at 9 or 10 years old only to find that anything that came in contact with those tender, blooming buds hurt so bad it brought us to tears. So came the ridiculously uncomfortable training bra contraption that the boys in school would snap until we had calluses on our backs.
Next, we get our periods in our early to mid-teens (or sooner). Along with those budding boobs, we bloated, we cramped, we got the hormone crankies, had to wear little mattresses between our legs or insert tubular, packed cotton rods in places we didn't even know we had.

Our next little rite of passage was having sex for the first time which was about as much fun as having a ramrod push your uterus through your nostrils (IF he did it right and didn't end up with his little cart before his horse), leaving us to wonder what all the fuss was about. 
Then it was off to Motherhood where we learned to live on dry crackers and water for a few months so we didn't spend the entire day leaning over Brother John . Of course, amazing creatures that we are (and we are), we learned to live with the growing little angels inside us steadily kicking our innards night and day making us wonder if we were preparing to have Rosemary's Baby.
Our once flat bellies looked like we swallowed a whole watermelon and we pee'd our pants every time we sneezed. When the big moment arrived, the dam in our blessed Nether Regions invariably burst right in the middle of the mall and we had to waddle, with our big cartoon feet, moaning in pain all the way to the ER.
Then it was huff and puff and beg to die while theOB says, "Please stop screaming, Mrs. Hearmeroar . Calm down and push. "Just one more good push" (more like 10), warranting a strong, well-deserved impulse to punch the %$#*@*#!* hubby and doctor square in the nose for making us cram a wiggling, mushroom-headed 10 pound bowling ball through a keyhole.
After that, it was time to raise those angels only to find that when all that "cute" wears off, the beautiful little darlings morphed into walking, jabbering, wet, gooey, snot-blowing, life-sucking little poop machines.
Then come their "Teen Years." Need I say more?

When the kids are almost grown, we women hit our voracious sexual prime in our early 40's - while hubby had his somewhere around his 18th birthday.
So we progress into the grand finale: "The Menopause," the Grandmother of all womanhood. It's either take HRT and chance cancer in those now seasoned "buds" or the aforementioned Nether Regions, or, sweat like a hog in July, wash your sheets and pillowcases daily and bite the head off anything that moves.
Now, you ask WHY women seem to be more spiteful than men, when men get off so easy, INCLUDING the icing on life's cake: Being able to pee in the woods without soaking their socks...


I think this pretty much covers the issue.

So, while I love being a woman, "Womanhood" would make the Great Gandhi a tad crabby. You think women are the "weaker sex?" Yeah right. Bite me.


Ever wonder why pregnant women don't

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Scientists think they have figured out why pregnant women don't lose their balance and topple over despite ever-growing weight up front.
 
Slight differences in the spine allow women to carry the growing load of pregnancy without toppling over.


Evolution provided slight differences from men in women's lower backs and hip joints, allowing them to adjust their center of gravity, new research shows.


This elegant engineering is seen only in female humans and our immediate ancestors who walked on two feet, but not in chimps and apes, according to a study published in Thursday's journal Nature.


"That's a big load that's pulling you forward," said Liza Shapiro, an anthropology professor at the University of Texas and the only one of the study's three authors who has actually been pregnant. "You experience discomfort. Maybe it would be a lot worse if (the design changes) were not there."


Harvard anthropology researcher Katherine Whitcomb found two physical differences in male and female backs that until now had gone unnoticed: One lower lumbar vertebra is wedged-shaped in women and more square in men; and a key hip joint is 14 percent larger in women than men when body size is taken into account.


The researchers did engineering tests that show how those slight changes allow women to carry the additional and growing load without toppling over -- and typically without disabling back pain.


"When you think about it, women make it look so very easy," Whitcomb said. "They are experiencing a pretty impressive challenge. Evolution has tinkered ... to the point where they can deal with the challenge.
"It's absolutely beautiful," she said. "A little bit of tinkering can have a profound effect."


Walking on two feet separates humans from most other animals. And while anthropologists still debate the evolutionary benefit of walking on two feet, there are notable costs, such as pain for pregnant females. Animals on all fours can better handle the extra belly weight.


The back changes appear to have evolved to overcome the cost of walking on two feet, said Harvard anthropology professor Daniel Lieberman.


When the researchers looked back at fossil records of human ancestors, including the oldest spines that go back 2 million years to our predecessor, Australopithecus, they found a male without the lower-back changes and a female with them.


But what about men with stomachs the size of babies or bigger? What keeps them from toppling over?


Their back muscles are used to compensate, but that probably means more back pain, theorized Shapiro, who added: "It would be a fun study to do to look at men with beer bellies to see if they shift their loads."


women beat themselves up - it NEVER - sm
has anything to do with you, male, female or animal.  It is his behavior.  You cannot change that.   You can get really miserable trying to - been there, done that.
But why women seeking men?
Okay, what am I missing. Wouldn't it be men seeking men or men seeking women? I'm not saying you shouldn't be concered, I'm just confused. If a man wants to be sought by a woman, I think a man looking for a man would have no luck with him, right?

Having said that (I'm single), I used to browse the Yahoo men seeking women ads just to see what the competition was (never entered my profile, though, -- I'm a happy 'aloner'). It was funny because I found one of my daughter's teachers there!!

At any rate, I wish you luck and happiness.


I presume he is looking at the ads that women - sm
are putting out looking for men.....and he wants to be the man they seek. Guess he is looking at their ads to see if he meets their specs, and if they sound interesting to him as well. That would be my take on it.
Because women smarter than that. 1 is enough to
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Some women are too smart
They're brainwashed, and may never wise up.  Nowhere in the Bible does it condone this type of lifestyle.  Some lecherous man declared himself a prophet and wrote his own book - and that's what they base their religion on, not the Bible.
What is your opinion on these women getting
dfs
Only Women Bleed
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Good will toward men (and women) sm
Sounds corny but we need a time to start "anew" and this represents a new beginning to me. We do gifts, tree, etc., but I really appreciate that people are trying with smiles, holding doors, etc. in this time of turmoil. Whether it's Hannukah, Christmas, solstice, etc., I just think of it as "good will toward men." Hopefully there is no hope for men, women and children. It gives kids something to look forward to. As for those who are suffering, my thoughts and prayers are with them. Donating to charity makes me feel better. I do it more for "me" than "them" as it makes me feel like I'm here for a reason other than my own selfish needs. New birth - that's always a happy time, don't have to be religious if you don't care to. Your decision and your personal moral beliefs are your business and your moral compass.
I feel there are a lot of women here
Who are bored and hitting a midlife crisis, and looking for justification in wanting to leave their spouses.

I've never seen such a myriad of complaints over such trivial nonsense in my life.

I'd love to see the other side of the coin, and what the spouses might have to say about the women to whom they are married.