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For the pet owners: Is pet insurance worth getting?

Posted By: JenniMT on 2008-08-21
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I know there are a lot of pet owners on the Gab board so I thought I would ask. I am wondering if pet insurance is worth getting? I have one 7-year-old kitty, a 2-year-old Pomeranian, and a 4-year-old chihuahua mix. Princess, my pom, broke her foot a couple of months ago by jumping about two feet to the concrete from my lap. I usually don't take her outside, and I think she just landed wrong. It cost me about $700 get her to the vet and have a splint put on and luckily it healed and she didn't need pins. I am really thinking about it because I know pets can get pretty expensive when you have to keep taking them to the vet. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me.


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The owners who are not responsible are ...sm
the problem. I would be mad too if I went out and was approached by a pit bull who growled at me, and I own a pitbull. He should be kept in his owners yard or home. No dog, pit or otherwise, should be allowed to roam around the neighborhood.
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Leave the TV or radio on for some noise.


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So am I missing anything? I just don't want her to freak out, but I think she will be ok with the MIL visits.


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That is true but the owners who hire them
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once again OWNERS, if only we could ask the cats, I think the response would be different, NM
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They are very sweet dogs... it's all about the owners
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To pit bull owners and defenders:

Two weeks ago in my city, an elderly demented man was found dead at home by his daughter's boyfriend when he returned home from work.  Autopsy confirmed that his death was caused by his daughter's and her boyfriend's 3 pit bulls. I'm sure this lady loved her dear father and believed the dogs were companions to him as he was home alone during the day.  


I just can't understand the loyalty to this breed.  Why take chances when the outcome can be deadly?  This woman will be blaming herself for the rest of her life. 


All dogs bite, but pit bulls don't stop until they have killed. 


Small dog owners Please Read my warning

Yesterday, a lady was driving down our hill with her little doxie in the front seat of the van. I don't think the dog was even a year old yet. Anyway, she sideswiped a telephone pole which put her out of control, her airbags went off, and she couldn't see with all that white powder flying around, and she wound up in a drainage ditch. When the airbags went off, they struck her dog and killed him. Although our neighbor is a nurse and tried CPR, the poor thing had broken ribs which probably punctured his lungs.


So, what I'm saying is if you're going to take your dog for rides, please put them in the back seat, preferably with doggie seat belts, not the front seat.  I could barely sleep last night over this.  I feel so bad for the poor dog. It didn't have to happen. The lady was so upset over it and feeling so guilty, it took us over 2 hours to get her calmed down.


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Business owners are usually private citizens
and as such have right of refusal - I sure did when we had our own business.  If you see a potential problem you want to get it back out that door pronto.  Maybe the owner knew his clientele would not stand for OJ sitting in the restaurant and being served, etc., and believe that is his choice, his call.  If he has other patrons of different races, religions, etc., can't see he would be concerned about a law suit.  This is not even a religious matter or sexual discrimination - which is protected by law - OJ is hated still by many - his problem. 
Yeah, poisoned by the owners, the sun and heat - sm
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It was the OWNERS' fault for allowing the dog to run loose.
The fact that you didn't see him and ran over him was an accident. That accident wouldn't have occurred if those people had been responsible dog owners and kept him in a securely fenced yard.
Dear Owners of Aggressive Pit Bull:
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The next time that sorry, un-neutered son-of-a-biotch comes anywhere near me, he's getting not just a warning squirt, he's getting the entire bottle in his face, maybe enough to close up his throat and kill him. I sure hope it does.
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applauding him for having done it. The restaurant he went to right after that was just around the corner and the owner there said he didn't have guts to not serve him.
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Carfax relies on owners of the cars to report problems

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OMG - but she's worth it!!! *S*
 
Yep, 24 hrs worth on TBS.
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My DD just did and we think it was worth it.

She still ached the first 2 days but after that she seemed to bouce back faster than if she hadn't taken it.


Well not everyone has the self-worth that you have sm
And sometimes we get so busy we forget that we matter too. It is not a matter of playing the victim.

By the way, you know where the devil lives, right? ;-)
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for what it is worth
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It's definitely been worth it for us...

We only have experience with Veterinary Pet Insurance (just go to Google and type in 'VPI' for their website), and we've been very happy with them.  It's more than paid for itself with our male Rottie who had bone cancer, and our little female Rottie who just recently had immune-mediated thrombocytopenia (!) of all things.  I guess if you're dog/cat never had any expensive illness or injury, it would'nt be worth it, but we're not that lucky. 


Our dogs are like our kids, so we will spend whatever is necessary on their vet care if they get sick or hurt.  Having the insurance gives me the peace of mind of knowing that no matter what the treatment costs, we will be reimbursed at least part of it, so that's what I like about it.  It doesn't pay for everything though.  It's not like an HMO where you just have a small co-pay.  LOL  You go to the vet you want, pay for services, then fax (or mail) the claim form and receipt and VPI mails you a check pretty quickly for part of the cost. 


We just pay for the policy once a year from out tax return, but you can make monthly payments if you want.  You can chose less coverage (lower cost) or more coverage (higher cost) and optional routine coverage for vaccines and stuff.  I think you can still get an online quote.  It is expensive if you want a policy on a senior animal, which is why I didn't have insurance for my senior dogs, but I don't think it would be that high for your 7 year old. 


My one regret is that I never had VPI insurance for my Siberian Husky, Wiley.  I spent so much on his vet care over the years with his chronic tooth issues and then cancer and joint disease.  I'll be paying off that credit card bill for (gulp) years...  Insurance would have saved me a fortune. 


which is definitely worth it IMO
We have rechargable battery packs for the Xbox 360 and used regular rechargable batteries for the Wii. Otherwise we would be spending a small fortune on battieres, not to mention the environmental cost of using disposables
Not worth $3 to me. I don't buy any of those
Paparazzi would go broke relying on me buying the magazines with their pics!

It was well worth it to me.
I went to a large university in a major city. I moved to the city and lived in an apartment (cheaper than living on campus at that time). I had grown up in a very small town, so everything in the city was new to me. I paid every cent of tuition and living expenses on my own. I worked on campus, so I spent 9 hours a day on campus either working or in class. When I came home, I studied every night from 6 to 10 p.m. I studied and worked every weekend and school break. It was hard work, the hardest 4 years I've ever been through in my entire life. I had a great job offer in my field even before I graduated, and I began work the day after final exams. In fact, I had to take a day off from work to attend my commencement. I worked at that job for 4 years and enjoyed it very much, but once I married and had children, I didn't want to be in an office anymore, so I changed direction and began work as an MT so that I could stay home and be available to my family. That was more than 20 years ago.

While I don't need my degree to be an MT, and while I don't make piles of money, my college education has enriched my life in so many ways. I had wonderful experiences, my mind opened to all sorts of possibilities. I met great friends, including my husband, who enrich my life to this day. And the feeling of accomplishment, of having made it through tough courses, paying for it myself, graduating with honors; that feeling of capability has stayed with me always. I never question what I'm able to do. That feeling of accomplishment made me a better mother, a better neighbor, a better employee, a better everything. You don't find that sort of thing in a classroom. It's not written on a degree hanging on a wall, you don't get a self-esteem bonus in your paycheck. But knowing that I am a capable person, able to set goals and work hard to achieve them is the priceless result of my college education.

That said, college is not for everyone. It's not a guarantee for a big paycheck. There are lots of kids who go to college simply because they want to get away from home, or because they are expected to go to college, or for a variety of reasons that have nothing to do with their future or a conscious thought of their personal development. And everyone should remember that colleges are in business and must make money, too. Of course, they market their programs and living arrangements, and sell their product to parents, who sometimes shell out every penny to kids who sleep through classes and party all the time. I don't think that sort of college experience has much value at all.

College isn't for everyone.

Oh, my! I'm rambling, and I really could go on and on. But my point is that college can be a wonderful experience, but it's no guarantee that life will be one big paycheck after another.
Sure he's worth more now. Think of all

the royalty money that will be flowing into the estate now. Amazon.com stated they had the biggest day in sales yesterday due to everyone buying up MJ's songs.


I haven't been on ebay yet but I'll bet that place is be-bopping with a bunch of sales not only for MJ for for FF.


When Elvis died, I had gotten a letter from the estate offering to SELL me one of his scarves at a very high price. Of course, I had to turn it down.


But you should enjoy yourself. It is not worth
it always putting up with evil people and not enjoying the holidays the way YOU deserve. I am nearly 50, and wasted 30 years or so before I realized that I do not have to be a part of this insanity. Even if it is just 1 person, its so not worth the time and good memories for you. We cut ties and never regretted it once. And my kids are grown now and have shared with me how grateful they are that we stopped doing the sick holiday visits, etc. We really bonded as our own family and are healthy mentally. Sometimes you do have to think of yourself first, though I know that can be hard. Merry Christmas to you.
Do you have any idea how much she is worth?
She is one of the richest women in entertainment. I was pretty shocked. They had a special on TV and showed her up there in the ranks of Christina, JLo, etcetera. They showed pics of her with her family. She has a ton of grandkids! She also has a house in Florida and flies via her jet to her tapings in California I think and has a yacht.
my advise (for whatever its worth)
dont raise him anymore, stop today. if it is something you dont want to do, then dont do it. if he doesnt want to be responsible for the bills, then let bill collectors call, whatever the case may be. find something for yourself. that is what i have had to do. sometimes i forget, but im much much better when i do. i take a walk in the morning all by myself. i rearrange the furniture (okay im weird) lol, he hates that, but i dont care, it makes me happy. we are not here to MAKE SURE they are happy. they can either be happy with the person you are inside or hit the pavement. i know you will make the right choices. also too, i had to stop talking to my family about him because at this point, they hate him, and want me to leave. i am an adult and i have to make my own choice, and i pray it works (and works functionally) for us.

btw, his mother has OCD, she cleaned his whole childhood. she has a hugely dysfunctional relationship with her mother, and did have with her daugher, who is an alcoholic. she is very selfish, and is just generally miserable. she is a christian, but is the kind that has all the right things to say, but doesnt act on any of them. analyzing her helps me to see why my husband is like he is.
Then it is worth a drive. I'm sure you will have a
xx
For me, it comes from not having anyone to teach you your worth when you are a kid (sm)
My husband was not nice even when we are dating. I had not been taught that I deserved to be treated with respect. Now you may say I am teaching my daughter the same thing - however, I'm not. I make sure that if she or my son see my husband treat me disrespectfully that I respond, in a respectful way to him that that is an inappropriate way for him to talk to me. I am still however, stuck with making a decision over what is better for the children. Sometimes these men who are bad husbands are not such bad fathers. It's a hard decision - not as easy as typing "just leave" on a message board.
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Is College Worth It?

As parents pack their youngsters off to college, they might ask themselves whether it's worth both the money they will spend and their children's time. Dr. Marty Nemko has researched that question in an article aptly titled "America's Most Over-rated Product: Higher Education (www.martynemko.com/articles/americas-most-overrated-product-higher-education_id1539)."


The U.S. Department of Education statistics show that 76 out of 100 students who graduate in the bottom 40 percent of their high school class do not graduate from college, even if they spend eight and a half years in college. That's even with colleges having dumbed down classes to accommodate such students. Only 23 percent of the 1.3 million students who took the ACT college entrance examinations in 2007 were prepared to do college-level study in math, English and science. Even though a majority of students are grossly under-prepared to do college-level work, each year colleges admit hundreds of thousands of such students.


While colleges have strong financial motives to admit unsuccessful students, for failing students the experience can be devastating. They often leave with their families, or themselves, having piled up thousands of dollars in debt. There is possibly trauma and poor self-esteem for having failed, and perhaps embarrassment for their families. Dr. Nemko says that worst of all is that few of these former college students, having spent thousands of dollars, wind up in a job that required a college education. It's not uncommon to find them driving a taxi, working at a restaurant or department store, performing some other job that they could have had as a high school graduate or dropout.


What about students who are prepared for college? First, only 40 percent of each year's 2 million freshmen graduate in four years; 45 percent never graduate at all. Often, having a college degree does not mean much. According to a 2006 Pew Charitable Trusts study, 50 percent of college seniors failed a test that required them to interpret a table about exercise and blood pressure, understand the arguments of newspaper editorials, and compare credit card offers. About 20 percent of college seniors did not have the quantitative skills to estimate if their car had enough gas to get to the gas station. According a recent National Assessment of Adult Literacy, the percentage of college graduates proficient in prose literacy has declined from 40 percent to 31 percent within the past decade. Employers report that many college graduates lack the basic skills of critical thinking, writing and problem-solving.


Colleges are in business. Students are a cost. Research is a profit center. When colleges boast about having this professor who has won a science award or that professor who has won the Nobel Prize, very often an undergraduate student will never be taught by that professor. It is a "bait and switch" tactic and very often your youngster will take classes not taught by a professor but taught in large classes by a graduate student. Faculty who bring in large grants are more highly valued than faculty who teach well. Teaching excellence is so often undervalued that the late Ernest Boyer, vice president for Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, quipped that, "Winning the campus teaching award is the kiss of death when it comes to tenure."


Parents and taxpayers cough up billions upon billions of dollars to the nation's colleges and universities. Colleges make money whether students learn or not, whether they graduate or not, and whether they get a good job after graduating or not. Colleges and universities engage in "bait and switch," confer fraudulent degrees and engage in other practices that would bring legal sanctions if done by any other business. There is little or no oversight of the nation's over 4,000 colleges and universities that enroll over 17 million students. There are some colleges, such as Grove City College and Hillsdale College, that do a fine job of undergraduate education. Useful information about what colleges are doing what can be found in the Delaware-based Intercollegiate Studies Institute's "Choosing the Right College" (http://isi.org/college_guide/choosing_right_college.html).


Me, too. It's just not worth all the drama.
nm
I'm not sure if this will work - but it might be worth

a try.  Does your husband pay the bills or does he give you money to pay them?  Make a household budget, including allowances for gas and groceries.  Either add in a little extra for the allowances to cover incidentals that might come up or present him with the receipt after he pays. 


Another thing I would definitely do -- you might want to consult with a divorce attorney.  Don't let hubs know that you're doing this because he'll try to hide money.  Your attorney will tell you what you would be entitled to.  Depending on what state you live in, you may even get spousal support for a short time.  You should be entitled to have 1/2 of everything you've accumulated during your marriage, including his retirement.  The debt you have accrued will also be shared between him and you.  When you're married, it's both of your debt regardless who charges it.  As for your children, you can discuss that with your attorney as well.  Let him know your child's concerns and fears. 


Only after you are informed by a good divorce attorney, can you decide what's best for you.  Don't sit in fear of what may or may not be.  Find out first and then decide.  Most consultations are free or relatively low cost.  If you do pay for the consultation, make sure to pay by cash so as not to leave a paper trail.  It would be better to make a cash withdrawal on your credit card, if you need to.  Get your ducks in a row before he has a chance to start picking them off.  Good luck and keep us posted!


For what it is worth, you are right on target sm
For one thing, this didn't come from the ex's mom, it came from the ex. You are 100% right in saying if she calls or comes to your home, you will not be rude to her or ignore her. Since you are included in things with the ex's mother, I doubt she is carrying any kind of a torch for your husband and her daughter. I think she is well over that, but thinks a lot of your husband and wants him to be her friend. It sounds like the mom takes people into her life as she finds them, which is a mature attitude...then again she is an adult and you and your husband are also adults. The ex is acting like she never graduated from high school! SUCH GAMES!

You handled it with much more grace than I could have. My hat is off to you.
Well, here's my two cents worth (sm)
I am sorry you are going through this. I would find it very hard to believe that both of your sisters would lie about this. I would be angry with my sister who first told me though also. If she didn't tell you back then when it really mattered, why bring it up now? Did you just seem to happy in your life? She should have told you way back then, and since she didn't, she shouold have just kept her mouth shut at this point. As for him, he has to be lying. Both of your sisters would not make something like this up, I don't think. I think the only hope is to tell him that you really do believe them and he needs to confess and tell you the truth. If it is something he did way back then but would never do now, he needs to say that. He needs to apologize to you. I think that is the only way you will be able to move ahead. If he is willing to fess up and if he tells you that he has not done this any more over the years and if you are happy with him, then I would forgive and forget. If he refuses to confess, I might believe he had more to hide than what you already know. I think you should go to a marriage counselor if he will not voluntarily admit what he did.
For what it is worth, the last place your son...
wants to work is a bank if he is having credit problems. I worked at a bank when my husband left his job to start a new business. We started to struggle financially, and over the course of a couple months, my performance reviews suffered for nonsense reasons, my kids were not allowed to visit me at work which was a common practice in this small town, and I was repeatedly asked to switch doctor and dental appointments at the last minute even when made at my routinely scheduled lunch break. Basically nitpicky stuff making me want to quit, so I obliged.

I worked in the trust department never touching any money and never bounced a check the entire time I worked there, yet I was profiled and not in a good way. I feel your son is better off out of an atmosphere like that no matter now frustrated he is. It took me a long time to get past how unfair their treatment of me was.

On the up side for me, I was able to gloat when a couple years later they hired someone who embezzeled $25,000 and with absolutely no imagination. Just transferred that money from the town's charitable accounts - like the Lions Club - to her own using their system. No one ever even checked...LOL.


The car isn't worth more even after putting in a
you might be able to call a local automobile salvage yard, auto recycling center, or junkyard place to see if they would come out, look at it, and see what they would be willing to pay you for the parts....


$2.06 in fort worth texas
Down from $2.15 last week.
It is worth the wait, but you could go for lunch and not
xx
I am in the same place but my time is worth as
x
ANY money is worth recycling for! -sm
With the cost of groceries what they are today, and aluminum cans getting 5 cents ea., it adds up pretty fast. Even if I only have 2 grocery-bags' full of cans, I take them to the recycler just before I go shopping, and then I have an extra $2-$5 in my wallet - the equivalent of several good coupons!
second that on condos. worth the extra $$$
we liked that a lot!!