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I agree! My BP & I have walked out of restaurants without paying (sm)

Posted By: Noisyland on 2007-03-05
In Reply to: Well that is kind of rude to let a baby continue to cry - and disturbe the mass and everyone there.

if the mgr. wouldn't ask the people with a screaming baby or out-of-control toddlers (running around & actually eating off of other people's plates! Gaaack!)to do something about it. At movie theaters, if people bring screamers in with them, we go out to the mgr. and ask for our money back. My mom raised 6 kids and went to church with all of them every Sunday. If anyone (including the infant-du-jour) made any noise, they were removed immediately. Older kids had to sit in the car (with H*-to-pay when we returned home!), and babies/toddlers sat with her outside 'til such time that they calmed down again. And weddings? Forget it! She never subjected any of her friends' weddings to small children or babies. And we were trained, at at APPROPRIATE age and ONE AT A TIME, how to behave in restaurants. We had to use our "indoor voices", keep our napkin in our lap & our elbows off the table, and eat with the correct forks, etc. And in fancy restaurants, we were trained beforehand that we were NOT allowed to even ASK for a hamburger. That alone prevents many restaurant-meltdown scenes!


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I think mom is getting walked all over.....nm
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been there, walked out and sm
didn't look back lady. There is help out there if you want it. What do you think domestic violence shelters are for? Why do you think these morons do this stuff? BECAUSE THEY GET AWAY WITH IT! If you stay, your son should be taken from you. I am not nswering you anymore. You obviously do not want out. some women just like drama!
oh and YOU have walked in her shoe(s)????....

How often does he get walked and for how long?

I watch a lot of Cesar Milan's shows.  One of the things that I always notice is when he has a dog like yours a big part of the problem is the dog is not getting out enough or for long enough time.  Not saying this is the case with you, but that's what I've observed on his show.


You have to start when you get his leash out and reach for the door.  Never let him run in front of you.  If you watch The Dog Whisperer, the dogs he's working with are always on a very short lead.  They never walk in front of him.   When your dog starts to get excited, make him sit and calm down.  Then put the leash on him.  Don't let him go out the door in front of you.  That's letting him be the pack leader and you need to be the  pack leader.  Hold him back and make him stop - as calmly as you can - and then walk out the door with him at the same time.  The same goes for the actual walk.  When he starts to pull on the leash, stop and make him sit down.  He'll figure out pretty fast that pulling is a bad thing.  At least this works when Cesar does it.


http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/tips/basics_masteringwalk.php


I'm walking in your shoes, but I walked further
There is only so much you can do. If she is a danger to herself or others, you can get an involuntary committment from a court to have her placed in a psych ward. It depends on your state how many witnesses you need and how far gone she is.

My dd stays with her dad (my ex) and I have had to cut off all ties. She finally got into a methadone program and got a job (which she quit when she got a garnishment on her paycheck for past-due child support) and is going to the local county health department where she was placed on a mood stabilizer. Every time I have talked with her over the past year, it seems she is worse than the time before. I don't think she is on the right meds. I have had to cut off all contact with her because I am raising her child and I just do not have the energy to be everything to everyone.

Like your child, my dd was depressed - I even saw it starting at about the age of 9 months. She was cycling in manic/hypomanic moods by the time she was 7 years old, only back then we didn't know what it was. We just thought she was high strung and spoiled. When she was 11, a close friend of hers from school committed suicide and she began self-mutilation. At the age of 14, she got kicked out of several psychologists offices because she lied and manipulated them. She lived on the streets in New Orleans at the age of 15 and it took us a year to find her. She finally came home with her boyfriend so she could get off the street and promptly got pregnant. She was "okay" while she was pregnant, but after the baby was born and the guy left, she got into drugs. OxyContin is her drug of choice. She chose that life including stealing her dad's credit cards and lots of other things I would be ashamed to post in public. She chose that over her child. I am now raising that child and I don't see things getting better even with all the "help" she is getting.

I'm sorry you are going through this, but one thing I do know is this: If you keep giving her money, a place to stay, food to eat, clothes to wear, she will NOT have any personal motivation to get better. She can sell the food and clothes for drugs. She can use the money for drugs. She will use you until you are all used up, and then what good will you be when she finds she really needs you for something important, like making different choices for her life? I wish you all the best. I know how heartbreaking this is for you. Funny thing is, I get okay with not having a relationship with her until I talk to her, then I fall apart for a few days and have to disconnect again to keep going ahead with my own life. So for me, I have to allow her to make her own choices even if it means that one day soon I could be attending her funeral.
I'll do it. I walked him last night
along with Sasha. He is not a big puller, a bit of a wanderer and sniffer, but he was happy to follow Sasha's lead and all of my gentle directions, which is fantastic! There is no need to give strong corrections to this dog. When we came to a corner and had to turn right and cross the street, I told Sasha, GEE (which means turn right in musher's terms), and she instantly turned right. To my surprise, Cedric instantly followed her. To me this means that he is very happy to have strong leadership and has no need to be a dominant dog (although as Cesar Milan says, if a dog feels a void in leadership, he will always try to take over and fill the position). So for this reason and the other training I have started and seen quick improvement, this is going to be a very easily trainable dog. Yay!
Shoulda walked over and said,"Here, honey. Let me
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wow? You're a whole lot nicer than I am. He finally got the hint when I walked right past sm
him and didn't glance his way once. I'm so bad, but who in the world wants to be intimate after typing on colonoscopies where a patient was not properly prepped?! OR on a patient whose genitalia is basically inside out and she's having every ectomy, otomy, and repair known to mankind?


Restaurants and

What is your absolute favorite chain restaurant to eat out at or order food on line from?


I order Memphic BBQ from Corky's sent to my house for holidays.


Maggianos when I am needing soul food


Melting Pot when I am feeling princessy


And Subway when I am on the road


Children in restaurants
Changing the subject here - Jennifer, you are so right. Children in nice restaurants acting out, with their parents ignoring them so they can enjoy THEIR meals, is one of my pet peeves. From the looks I observe on other people's faces, I would guess that a lot of people feel this way. When we go to Denny's, we expect this. However, when my husband takes me to a really nice restaurant for a relaxing meal, that is the last thing we want to see or hear!
My mom had 6 of us. Yes, we misbehaved in restaurants.
when she told us to behave, we knew the consequences if we didn't. If we were to young to know the consequences, we were removed.

One by one, as we grew old enough to learn, my parents would take ONE child at a time to a fancy restaurant and teach us that we had to behave, we had to keep our elbows off the table and not blow straws at the other diners, and that no, that restaurant did NOT have hamburgers.

You're taking this all WAY to personally, so my guess is that you're one of the EXCUSE-makers, and not one of the more considerate parents.
Disney area restaurants??
I'm going to Disney World with my family next week and would love to have some opinions on restaurants close or in the parks. A friend of mine told me about some restaurant where they "throw" food at you and the servers are kinda silly, but she couldn't remember the name of the place. I have an 8 y/o daughter and this is our first trip to Disney World, so would love to make it as fun as possible. Thanks for any suggestions!
I kept my kids in line at restaurants for
years with threatening them that there were table police and if they didn't behave they would have to go sit on the roof. One day my daughter, about 4 years old, asked the waitress about them. She laughed, went right along with it, and then brought her ice cream from the "table police" because she had been so good.
Too afraid of meat in restaurants now sm
Their meat may be old (sorry). If we do go, will only go to very busy place as even some bought at market are questionable. We have gift certificates which we appreciate as they are from busy places. Sometimes we have a "UFO" party. Unidentified freezer objects - if they're too old we throw them out. Buying light these days.Takes common sense, hopefully things will turn around in ཅ but for now I am being extremely careful and not loading up on meat either unless we intend to eat it soon. Perhaps I'm too cautious but things are rough right now for everyone, even the markets, restaurants, etc. I sure hope the turkeys are okay, even in good times we've gotten "bad ones" - have to open them up and be sure. Martha likes to brine hers in salt water - not a bad idea these days to check them out before it's too late the day of or the day before. Fresh is best - wish we had our own farm as some do.
Do you think some restaurants might recycle some food stuffs such as
Biscuits,chips and salsa ,rice or anything that comes back to the kitchen that looks untouched!!Have you ever noticed anything that may come to your table that looks like it may have been warmed over?We have !Hubby found a chip that someone had dippedin the salsa and it was in out basket!!We know this young fellow that worked at a restaurant and he said they recycled the rolls that were in the baskets!!Do yall think this could happen.
Atlantic Avenue has GREAT restaurants...
Also Park Slope - 7th Avenue and Flatbush - going towards Prospect Park - take a right and you'll be in Park Slope which also has great cafes and restaurants.  Prospect Park area also has the Brooklyn Museum and Japanese Gardens - both WONDERFUL PLACES to visit.  Enjoy!  NY is my home but I haven't lived there in over 30 years....
If you do WW, go to www.dwlz.com - all the points are there for food and restaurants.
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gift certificates for restaurants, car washes, etc.,
A nice pair of leather gloves? guys are tough to buy for !
I'd go with gift cards to restaurants. You can buy them in grocery stores or Walgreens
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People in public restaurants who find it perfectly acceptable
table after THEY are finished with their meal.  To heck with everyone else around them! Ewww, GROSSSS!
No fast food. Disgusting. Only locally owned restaurants.
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No fast food. DISgutsing. Only locally owned restaurants.
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She's paying for it
You can be sure she is paying for the extra attention. Also, the hospital likely insisted that all that security be provided, not because they are necessarly worried about Britney but about people trying to get near her. The last thing they want is for her to get harmed while she's in their institution.

Usually if there is a VIP patient, they don't keep the chart all in one place - they parse it out in 3 or more different locations under lock and key.

Britney has always gotten that kind of treatment - when she was in Mousekeeters, everyone had to leave the gym where she worked out when she came for her exercise. Britney is a little snot, always has been even as a young teenager - turns on the sweetness for the cameras. Millions of people have bought her act.

However, I do feel for her in her present situation and hope she can turn her life around now.
Me again, tell you what I did about paying a bill for a dog
like I said above, huge animal lover. I have 3 furkids but a friend of mine whose son is a druggie, was not seeing about his dog. The dog needed an operation for a growth on his foot. I paid over $1000.00 for that and now I buy my newly adopted doggie its medicine each month. I never give my friend money because want the money to go for the doggie, not drugs for her kid but you can believe I am seeing the doggie is comfy!
Okay, I don't mind paying
to make sure everything is in order! Thanks for all the advice!
...paying for it himself out of his PT job earnings. nm
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paying for college
I have two sons in college right now ...one out-of-state, one in a private university.  They both end up getting paid to go to school because they have so many scholorships.  Did the high school counselor help me find any....NO. We are in a small town and I got no help from the school or town. Neither one of my sons played any sports...but I will tell you what I found out...what is more important is that your child is involved in school and the community.  They don't care if they  have ever worked a day in their life...they want to know what they have done in school grade wise, and community wise. Even just ringing the bells for the Salvation Army at Chrismtas time will earn you a scholorship. I filled out over 56 scholorships for both my sons to go to school for free...you just have to learn as you go how to word answers on the scholorships.  We are not poor but we are not rich...but we made to much money to get any FAFSA help.
paying off bills
In our case, we refinanced through someone in our church who had a refinance company.  It included all our credit cards and no, we did not have to cut them up.  We still have them and DO NOT EVER USE THEM.  It also included paying off our cars.  The reason we had so much debt is because I wasn't able to get enough work at that time, now it is great and I can only say we pray and God has blessed us above measure, more than we deserve.
paying off bills
BTW we also pay an extra $100 each month on our mortgage.  Years ago someone told us to do that and were never able to until now.  Yes, I work hard, but we are doing great and even eat out once or twice a wk and sometimes more.  This friend in our church also agreed paying the extra $100 a month.  I have heard other fincance people on the Christian radio station saying the same thing, so it does make sense.  You pay the extra amount on the principal only.
paying bills
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Same here paying bills - NM
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I am not against paying for your child's
but I have no intention of doing that for my own children. There are so many kids out there who have everything handed to them. I believe it will teach my children the value of a dollar and the value of their education if they pay for it themselves or with scholarships and hard work. I do encourage them to keep their grades up and will encourage them to apply for scholarships, grants, etc. I think either parent should have to foot the bill for college. If they want to, great; if not, I don't believe the court system should get involved.
Wow if you & hubs are paying that much
in taxes and didn't qualify for stimulus check (because you make too much?), ya'll must be rakin' it in!! Don't think you deserve much sympathy either, right? I know you we're asking for it, but seems a little harsh to kick someone when they're down...
Paying down debt

It is getting harder to make ends meet because of all the straws in our bank account.  I have 17k in CC dept alone.  It is with 4 different CC companies.   One CC has $200, #2  has about 4K, #3 has about 2K, #4 has 10k.  The 10K one has a 15 % APR, the others I believe range from 24% to 29% APR.  My biggest monthly payment is my house and I owe only  $4700 on it and it has 6.3% APR.  I sold some things and am getting $5K and that will be enough to pay off my house.   I would love to finally, officialy own this house and get rid of that $350 monthly pmt,  but I wonder if I should not pay down on the CC because of the high interest rates.  Any opinions.  TIA. 


 


Paying Down Debt
I feel you, believe me.  First, Bravo to you for facing this.  That's the hardest part.  I think if you are so close to paying off your house, you wouldn't want to take out yet another loan against it.  Additionally, the interest rates aren't that great.  What is the total of payments you are making on your credit cards?    If you can slap that 5000.00 on your debt first on all of the higher interest ones perhaps paying some of them off.  That will free up extra money to put on the rest of your credit cards.  Then once the credit cards are paid off, you can then work on the mortgage (I WISH I had your mortgage..).  Also we work in an industry where it is easy to pick up extra work---have you thought of that just to get extra money to pay off the debt?  That's what I'm trying to do.  Things are just so bad right now.  Good luck, hope this helps...
Forgot to add - what about them paying
for their part of the cell phone bill as well as insurance on their vehicle?
You are not paying for a thing that does not benefit you, obviously.
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Remember you are paying him big bucks
My nephew is a mortgage broker and they make good money -- put in a lot of time but that 1 to 3% loan initiation fee can be quite steep.  It is not like they are doing a favor for you so speak up.  Go above his head ask to talk with a supervisor, anything.  Be nice about it but remember you are paying him a lot of money and so he is working for you and so speak up.  You don't have to be nasty but tell him your concerns and ask that you speak to his supervisor.   Good luck. 
Curious as to who is paying for the wedding?
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You are kidding about paying $2 more an hour??
I find most Americans, regardless of their race, creed, religion, etc., etc. wanting to work. I have never had to worry if I hire the Mexicans here in town to work, show them what and your job is done. I have a lady who cleans (black) and I usually have to make a list and even then she wants to sit down most of the time. Have used all but found get my work done with south of the border folks.
I'm paying for all those wives and kids...
They only claim one wife as a legal wife, so the others they marry are married in the church but not on paper, so they think they are getting by with polygamy. So what happens to all those wives with children? They go to the welfare office, since they are single moms ( no marriage certificate), they are eligible for Medicaid, my taxes to pay for their children, food stamps, on and on. That is fraud and they should be ashamed of themselves, since they know exactly what they are doing... where is their religion in all this? This is scheming.....they call it "bleeding the beast", meaning the government. Of course, they do not care that it is the taxpayer's dollar, because they consider themselves better than the "outside world", since they believe they are the chosen people anyway.
Oops, should have been paying off a debt
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insurance not paying for meds
Insurance said I had to be on Medicare before they would pay for Celebrex even with rheumatologist asking for exemption.
Plan on paying off my cards too sm
as soon as I get my settlement. Plan to tell them that I refuse to bankroll their bonuses, parties and whatnot anymore and they can put their credit you know where. I didn't get a bailout--all I got was higher interest rates.
And who said anything about them paying for their father's expenses?
Not me, for sure because I have more sense than that. I have told my husband we have separate accounts and he is not responsible for me if I were to die first. He does not have to pay my credit card accts, etc. because those were made before we even met. Lastly, let me just say this, if the father of those children WAS competent, he could then take his own father (the g'father) to court and he most probably would get THEIR share because he is NEXT of kin, not them. I do not think you have a leg to stand on in this matter. I have enough knowledge to know who comes first, etc. My father died owning about 1,000+ for a doctor's bill. I was next of kin, did I have to pay, NO. Where you got that sentence she and her brother??? guess you just pulled out of thin air.
See my post above about paying off the credit
Sure, banks need to make a profit just like everyone else. But businesses throughout the whole country have become so money-hungry that they continue to cheat their customers more and more, in the name of making more and more money for themselves. MTSO's cheat us in order to make more profit. Insurance companies cheat us by making us pay more and more, and in turn denying more and more of our healthcare costs. Food companies cheat us by not only charing more for their products, but also by putting less and less in the box or the wrapper. (Cereal: Used to be about 3/4 full, now it's more like 1/2 full. Granola bars: Remember when 1 granola bar was an actual snack? Or even breakfast? Now the wrapper is the same size, but the bar is a mere shadow of its former self.) The banks cheat us by raising the rates or charging for services that used to be free. Mine recently starting nicking my checking account for $35 as 'overdraft protection' when my account became low. Now get this: I never bounced a check. I never wrote checks for more than was in my account. There was always at LEAST $25 in my checking account. But they would decide it was too low, nick me for the $35, and then surprize! My account is then MINUS $10! So what do they do? They charge me again!

I'm considering doing away with the bank entirely, including checking, and only using a pre-paid debit card. Now if there were just a way for our MT paychecks to electronically go into a bank-free debit card, instead of into the bank, then VOILA! Bye-bye, bankie.
quit paying and see if he says something..then you'll know..nm
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not paying insurance for teens-I feel bad for you.SM..

Kids don't make enough today to do it all - including teen car insurance - and some parents  LIKE TO HELP...again, to each his/her own.  My children have been working full time for 10 years and I'm still wanting to help them with that car insurance because it's exhorbitant for young people even in their 20s....until 25 actually where I live -


oh well, one thing is we can all AGREE TO DISAGREE - LOL


I've been paying a lump sum for my taxes
and was starting to get scared that I'm doing it wrong. Actually, my husband was doing the taxes, and this year we're separated. I've just been an IC two years and an MT for a little over three. So is it okay to send it all in April? This will be my first year to write off an office space and such. So many other things were going on before that I had no time to really think this all through. Numbers and taxes and math are not my thing!
Good, does that mean I can stop paying taxes? - nm
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Hey, I'll join you if you're paying ;-)
And I was just stressing over paying $500 for rental car (I'm driving), hotel, and baseball tickets for a rinky-dink 3-day trip 250 miles down the road. Still have to spring for gas money and food, but I'm feeling a little better after reading your post LOL. Of course, I'm not going to Las Vegas...

Well, have fun anyhow!! :-)