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I started a soy menopause tablet

Posted By: Misha on 2008-01-05
In Reply to: The best is yet to come. sm - GoGranny

recently. I also changed jobs because I now have no tolerance for sitting at home doing one thing. With my new job I am constantly moving, working with other people, half men, half women, get to be outside in the sunshine, and we laugh and joke all day. I haven't faced the ugly week yet, but I'm hoping it will be better. For a while there I was alternating between just sleeping the day away or screaming in frustration.

My sister has PMDD and does great on Prozac, but the only thing I'm taking now is 1/2 a clonazapam at night to sleep and multivitamin with minerals and extra D and the soy menopause stuff. But I can't tell you how it's lifting my spirits to be doing physical stuff, even sitting and kneeling on the floor of a greenhouse pulling weeds or sweeping the floor, laughing and joking with other people. It's not good for me to be inside, working all alone.




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I just took a half a tablet at about 8:30
...just to see how that goes.  He said 1/2 or 1 tablet t.i.d. p.r.n.  My pulse was over 140 in his office today, which is what it was when the ambulance got here on Monday, and that is just NOT me.  He gave me enough for a few weeks and then I go back to see him. 
Do you use those tablet things in your toilets

Do you use those tablet things in your toilets?


If so, you may be damaging your toilet and voiding a warranty.


I didn't know that. The paperwork for my new toilets say the warranty is void if you use those things.


My plumber said it's better to never use anything that goes in the tank, that you should use something that clips on the bowl.


Haven't started shopping yet, but have started saving $$$
Don't have an awful lot yet, but both hubby and I are doing it (separate accounts) so we should have a good amount when we combine. My goal is to start shopping in September after my daughter's birthday and finish by Thanksgiving. That's my goal. I have never reached it! Maybe this year!
And FYI, the thread we are posting in right now was one I started, you started the earlier one. nm
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I haven't started yet, but have started my lists.
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I'm like you, I love Christmas but hate the commercialism of it. We were at Costco a while back looking for Halloween costumes and they already had their Christmas stuff out. They always make me feel like I'm already late on my shopping!

I may do a lot of online shopping this year. It's easier with little ones. My 2yo is more aware this year so taking him with me to buy his own presents is out. Darn!

It always seems that Halloween (my favorite) takes forever to get here, but once it's over, then the holiday rush is on.

Happy Holidays everyone!
I'm not in menopause, but (sm)
I have atypical migraines to where my speech goes wonky, I have paresthesias, my head spins, and I can't walk right. I have problems with them premenstrually as well. The thing that has helped me the most was the overall change in my diet. That might not be much help, but that is my personal experience. Medications didn't do much for me. Once in a while the caffeine makes migraines worse but it usually helps.

I hope you find relief soon.
menopause
All natural here too though I did try the usual OTC herbal remedies which didn't help. I finally went on Prozac just to have some sanity. Perimenopause if I recall lasted roughly 1-1/2 years before the periods stopped altogether.
menopause
It is clear that no one takes hormones for perimenopause symptoms. It seems pretty clear that the upset posters are taking antidepressants for their perimenopause.

So I don't even think this is a debate about natural menopause. I think this has become a debate about antidepressants, which I don't care to have.

The original question was to people who were going through natural menopause.
Menopause
I went through premature menopause (started going through it before age 35, am now 39), and I have not once taken replacement hormones.  I've only experienced mild hot flashes and only mild sweating on the back of my neck at night.  I'm not sure how long I was in perimenopause, as my diagnosis was made after my periods had completely stopped for 7 months...my first GYN refused to believe it was menopause at such a young age, but my new GYN ran every test imaginable to make sure it wasn't something worse, then did the "big test" and it came back showing I was in full menopause.  I starting having "problems" at around age 29 though (irregular periods, etc.).  I was actually happy because now I was free to make vacation plans without worrying about "mother nature" showing up unexpectedly.
menopause - and it's pleasures
I have been having my own personal summers now for 10 years ever since having a hysterectomy and removal of my ovaries (the dr wasn't supposed to remove them but he did - and the next patient got my bladder suspension - it was a big mess). Anyway - I tried some herbals from time to time - nothing really worked. I have been on estradiol injections every 2 weeks for the past 9 years - and this is the only thing that comes close to helping. It was nice in the winter - i would sleep with the heat off and especially when it was down in the teens, I could count on a goodnight's sleep with my room temperature sitting around 45-50 - and sleeping with as few clothes on as possible. I wish I had an answer for you - I would get out of MTing and sit back and enjoy my billions - but I don't think anyone has the answer. You might try some Ambien (the regular not the CR) it at least keeps you asleep - you just wake up with wet clothing and sheets in the mornings but you don't realize that you are sweating during the night. In fact, you won't even remember anything that you do or say after about 15 minutes after swallowing that little pill.
Male menopause

Is anyone's signifant other going though male menopause, mid life crisis (or whatever it is called).  If so, how old are they and what is it they're going through (or better yet what are you going through).  Mine is not bipolar or depressed (although he's making me depressed).  Just wondering what others are facing with their husbands.


This is me right now -


perimenopause/menopause

Anyone here go through the perimenopause/menopause without hormones.  No birth control pills or HRT?


Mostly, how long did the perimenopause last before the year without the period?


Dear Menopause...
Thank you for no hot flashes and no warning of your arrival. Thank you for the worst of this being a certain amount of brain fuzz, especially when I am tired. Thank you for not bothering me with heavy or irregular gifts from Mother Nature. Thank you for showing up just when I had run out of Tampax anyway. Most all, thank you for coming right in time for my 48th birthday and bringing the gift of keeping pretty panties pretty permanently.
HAHAHA- Wait until you hit menopause.SM

forgetfulness - returns in middle age to late middle age - happens to many/most w/menopause - you will become forgetful....*lolol*


and there is no escape unless, of course, you CHOOSE to take hormonal replacement therapy - which many have not and do not today due to the other very severe problems HRT causes...


YO - but a shout out to you - BEST OF LUCK IN YOUR MID 40s-50s......and 60s-70s w/that forgetfulness.  *roflmao* and it doesn't get better into your 80s and 90s either.  THINK ABOUT IT....*lol*


Your problem seems to be that you leave ABSOLUTELY no room for error, and it's all gonna come back and slap you in the face in a decade or two or three.  I promise this - I don't wish it on you.....but it's KARMA -


KARMA - very much like a kinahura (spelling is wrong but YOU know what I mean) equates to what goes around, comes back around, and bites you right on the face (or in the tuchas.......take your pick)......


 


 


            



 


 


Yes, especially if you're around that menopause time, too. This was
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To poster below on insomnia and menopause

Oprah will be a very informative show today on us women going through menopause.  Dr. Christine NOrthrup is the guest and she's wonderful - there'll be lots of good tips for eating right, controlling our hormones, sleeping well, etc.  It's all about the mind/body connection which I wholeheartedly believe in too.  Catch the show if you can.


I just read 2 books on menopause sm
Apparently once you miss your first period, it takes on average 4 years for the peri- and full-blown menopause to be completed. Some get through faster, some slower. I'm 50 and have only missed a single period so far, but the mood swings are horrendous already, as well as the increased bleeding. EEEK - this is not gonna be fun!

Google Dr Christiane Northrup; she's written extensively about the process.


Losing your sex drive with menopause is
part of the natural progression of our biology.
Way past menopause, surgical back in the
89s, but my hair loss mostly due to the thyroid problem. Know age can play a part but diagnosed as coming from the problem with hormones.
I've had thinning hair every since menopause...

It's not like it comes out in gobs but just is thinning out really bad, basically can't do a ponytail anymore.  My NP just said, yeah that's just the breaks with menopause and didn't want to do any testing.  I finally went to a dermatologist, who ran thyroid tests and also iron tests, because he said in his experience hair loss was often associated with low ferritin.  I know that I don't get much iron in my diet and took vitamins without iron since menopause, so switched to a vitamin with iron, seems to be a little better but maybe just my imagination... my ferritin was on the very low edge of normal, almost into low range.  My thyroid tests came back okay.


 


Also about docs prescribing certain meds,I do know some veternarians who got bonuses, prizes, etc. for presribing so much of certain drugs... like quite NICE prizes.  Wonder if this happens with doctors and prescribing certain drugs when they insist on a certain one...don't know but sometimes makes one wonder.


mine's been going through menopause his entire life nm
wal-mart...polaroid dvr...ebay...okay dokay
sounds like a menopause sneak attack
Your call on how to handle it, but it sounds hormonally motivated to me....the crying inappropriately about a child you are not raising kind of gives it away.
Depression/Menopause/Decreased Sex Drive
I was wondering if any has any suggestions for increasing a woman's sex drive. I have been on Wellbutrin and trazodone for years and now I am going through menopause on hormone replacement. (I am 47 and had an ovary removed last year which caused me to go into menopause.) The last few years my sex drive has decreased to almost nil. Any suggestions/information would be much appreciated.
My DD started at age 4, with sm
combo ballet and tap lessons, I think it was twice a week.  The teacher was great, very encouraging, and did not give them more than they could handle.  She loved practicing her steps at home.  And, my heart be still, the recitals were just, well, thrilling.  Adorable girls, in adorable outfits.  Flowers galore from all the parents.  It was so much fun for everyone.  Of course, there were missteps, but they were absolutely charming.  She continued until about 11, when she got interested in other things. 
I just started again...

I used to do some kind of activity every day a few years ago and then got away from it and the wait has just packed on.  So, I am back at it again.  I have several Walk Away the Pounds DVDs (if you can ignore Leslie's annoying commentary, they are great) and if it's nice like it was last week here in central PA, I walk about a mile or so.  One day last week, I did both. I want to get back into some light weights and also have a beginning yoga DVD.


Don't get me started :)
I have theories on the Jack/Claire connection too.
That was me until I started new job!
nm
OMG don't get me started!

Even my local newspaper gives me headaches.  They're suppose to have proofreaders and have supposedly won awards and such but they definitely didn't get it for spelling.  Maybe the ones giving them the awards can't spell either   LOL


For example one year during the basketball season they misspelled "guard" the entire year.  They would spell it "gaurd".  Typos are certainly acceptable once in a while, I even had a typo once (ha ha) but this is an ongoing thing and not just with my newspaper, I see it on ABCnews.com all the time. 


Why don't they Spellcheck?  It won't catch all errors but it'll certainly catch all the obviously mispelled ones! 


Oh don't even get me started.
Your story sounds sooooo much like mine. My husband and I married when his son was 5 or 6 and it was/has been a nightmare being his step-parent. I know my stepson was just a child when his parents divorced and he was probably hurting inside (his mom is a piece of work, that's for sure; she had little to no contact with him all these years).

I think my husband always felt sorry for his son because he was just like your husband--didn't discipline him. He always would justify why his son did something wrong or fix whatever it was himself so that his son didn't have to. His son called me horrible names (mostly when he was a teen), ignored me, said cruel things to me, destroyed things in our house, stole, started a fire from carelessness, and so on. He would lie to you without a second thought.

I had him in counseling for a while hoping it would help. I was at my wit's end. I knew we needed help. My husband never drove his son to the appointments, only I did. Husband never attended. It got to where my stepson was angry at ME for making him go, and eventually I gave up the fight and we stopped (it didn't seem to help anyway).

At one of the counseling appointments he told the counselor out right that *I* was the reason his parents divorced!!! HEllo! I didn't meet his dad until AFTER the divorce was final and his mother had already been re-married! I don't know what dream world he was living in, but it certainly wasn't reality!

Long story short, this kid hated me, and I didn't know how to deal with him. I had kids of my own with his dad and then had to protect them from my stepson because he would act out and hurt them if I wasn't careful.

This kid is now 18, dropped out of high school, and has been arrested. He doesn't get along with anyone, few friends, and still hates me. He still lives in our house and his father STILL protects him, treating him as a "buddy" instead of a parent.

I wish I had advice for you. My only real advice I suppose is NOT to have kids with your husband until you're sure you can make it work, or else you're in for a LOT of years of anguish. This is honestly the biggest issue my husband and I have--his son. It has caused me to run off to my parent's house a couple of times, huge screaming matches, my threatening to leave, and so on.

Lord knows I've tried with this kid, but without the husband's help, it's meaningless.

OH sigh......I could go on all night. Just, well, good luck.
So, I started

the new job today.  Drove to my new place of employment.  DH also worked today.  Got home to DH glaring at the ottoman that Bear ATE. 


Bear is not big on my working outside the house, apparently.  I wish duct tape came in dark brown ...


that's what started it all
I tried to explain to her that I couldn't get off for a shower up there - and reminded her of what I am up against in terms of money - get this - my gutter is duct taped to my house.  SIL accused me of making her cry and making her miserable.  Heck -  my daughter and I cry at commercials!.  I've been crying all morning because of the poster below's cat remembering my cats.  After he berated me in a way I don't think any son/daughter or in-law should to a mother I decided I needed an apology before I made any more contact with them.  I was even going to take my vacation when the baby came to help cook and clean and do whatever they needed and they knew that.  Not like I wasn't giving them everything I could.
The one that SS started.

FURTHERMORE (I should NOT have started . . .)
The cardiologists and hospitalists that took care of my mother quite appreciated that I knew her baseline EF, that she had chf, and could give a very detailed medical history to them and knew what they were talking about when my mother could not give them that info last summer . . . AND when I mentioned to my doc one time that I thought I had restless leg syndrome (which yea, I did) during my pregnancy he said, "how'd you hear about that already? Oh yea, I forgot you're an MT." So it just depends on who ya talk to.
That's what I started doing, too
I had 3 kids in school in various activities at any time of the school year and they were always selling stuff. I finally just started writing a check for $20 or whatever and sending it in. Much easier.
I started WW 4 weeks ago...

I actually NEVER cook.  My kids are picky eaters, and they both are picky about different things, so we eat mostly TV dinners. 


With WW, you can eat anything.  You calculate "points" based on calories, fiber, and fat grams.  You get a certain amount of points each day based on your weight.  You also get 35 cheat points per week.  If you are still hungry, you can earn points by exercising. 


In 4 weeks, I've lost 6.6 pounds and I haven't felt like I was dieting even once.  I wish I would have done their program years ago. 


If you do cook, you can go on their website and use E-Tools to calculate points.  You can enter your own recipe into the online calculator, and it will tell you how many points it is. 


Right now they have a special where you don't have to pay the initial start-up fee and you get free E-Tools for $40 a month.  That's what I'm doing now, and I plan to stay at it until I lose all the weight. 


Good luck with whichever program you decide.   


Just started Atkins
I started Atkins 2 weeks ago and have lost 9 lbs. Now before someone tries to burst my bubble I know it is mostly water weight. Is anyone else on here using atkins? By the way my starting weight is 390 I am 6ƈ''. Everyone have a great day.
Started to google but when I saw going here and going there
just decided not gonna read all that. First of all I think you and only you make your life happy or sad, good or bad. I do good for others and it comes back to me, always but I do because I want to, not have to. Life is in our hands and ours alone, not our husband, children, other family members.
I'm not the one who started the thread but
I posted a reply on another thread about infidelity. I told the poster that what she was doing was wrong, to take a cold shower and pray about what was doing.

Regina (yeah, she uses her name in her entire email address) emailed me about how wrong I was, don't have a conscience, and stuff.

I saw her name here on this thread.

I'm just telling her to STOP EMAILING ME.

My son started having migraines by 4..........sm
We didn't know that's what was going on at the time, but realized migraines were the problem. He played sports and these things would hit him out of the blue, sometimes brought on by being out in the bright light and just running a lot. We would put him in a dark dark room with no sounds. A cold pack really helped to shrink the vessels and would have to wait it out. An anti-inflammatory like Aleve might work better, but I would check with doc first because of her age. He's 20 now, but still gets one from time to time, mostly brought on by being out in the bright light for a long time, like when he's playing soccer or anything that keeps him outdoors in the light for long periods of time. Stress can bring them on also, even though there are docs out there that still say stress doesn't play a part.......yea, right!!! Obviously, they've never had a migraine. So sorry she's having to deal with this.
to each his/her own...started w/Lexmark 12 yrs ago

and different HP types, first was inkjet, deskjet, and now a laser of theirs (which I love and was very affordable but I chose no color this time as I only need black-white).


Like I said, to each his or her own regarding technical equipment; nobody's right and nobody's wrong.  Being online 12+ years, I simply prefer Hewlett Packard printers (only).  I would not buy their computer systems though.


Have a GREAT week! 


I just started watching B&B
ever since Constantine joined the cast. The writers seem to like these storylines. Something similar happened on Days of Our Lives.
Well, the publicity started before her
and just continues on an apparently nontalented made up Hollywood celebrity. Her grandfather married Zaa-Zaa Gabor and Elizabeth Taylor was married to her paternal uncle so the swirl continues, and to not know Paris I would think is just another person being kept too sheltered.
I have no problems at all getting started
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Melatonin - just started using (sm)
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Any new medications started?
Blood pressure meds can cause all kinds of weird things.

Effexor and others can cause some weird things too for some people. And so can getting off some medications, even if you tapered off at a rate that should have been reasonable.

I hope it doesn't take long before they track down some benign culprit that they can correct.

If it is anxiety, I learned a lot from relaxation training using biofeedback. It was very helpful, so even that can be overcome in a systematic way.
Hubba started also here on Gab
If she is on the other, did not know. Yes, I know the names above, not new to this board, see it frequently, way past schooling for this lady. Thanks anyway.
My mom told us when we started to ask - sm
I was 8 and my older brother 10. My other brother was 13 but he never sat in on these talks, presume he already knew. I remember sitting in the kitchen with her and her telling us how babies were made. I did not fully comprehend until I was about 10 but had the gist of things. I say if they are asking, tell them, it does not mean they are going to run out and try to do it, they are just curious. My 2 know that you have to have sex to make a baby, though they are still not too sure what that is (they are 7 and 9) I have explained in basics to them already though they don't quite grasp it yet, but in time they will understand just as I did. I am doing more the "period" talk now as my 9-year-old is wondering a lot about that.
Even if I started out small
do you think I would need all that legal stuff - licenses, health inspections? At first I was hoping to make money "under the table" so to speak. I don't want to be a large corporation because it would be just me baking so don't think I could handle that much.
No I havent started it yet.

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Just started a few months ago
And I love it. It's very easy to deal with, since you brush on such a tiny bit at a time. I start with the big brush, then use the middle one to go over where I need more coverage. If you have very dry skin, I can see where it might be a problem, but that's not me. I do try to avoid putting it on heavily where I have crow's feet around my eyes, because I think maybe it does make them more prominent.

And don't let that video scare you - they make it look like you'd be putting on 40 coats of this stuff or something. I just use the basic color, some of the warmth and then the mineral veil. I don't think you need anything more.

I started working around 6 a.m.
It's just about 8 now.  If it weren't my weekend to work, I would still be in bed, no doubt about it!  Not a morning person. Need my ZZZZZZZZs.