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Its wise to stay away

Posted By: been there too on 2007-11-09
In Reply to: Am I over-reacting here?? - MT in MT

I had a C-section and had planned to stay at my mom's for a week or so to recuperate.  As soon as I got there, I put the baby in the cradle in the living room and started to put some things away in the bedroom.  I could hear my step-dad saying "get 'im, get 'im" to his dog....I went out there and he was actually encouraging his schnauzer to mess with the baby!  I came real close to braining him with a can of tomatoes over it.  I left and refused to bring the baby to their house as long as he was in it.  My mom, too, chose the step-dad over her kids.  Now he's dead and her relationship with her kids is rocky, and she regrets it.


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Heard sodding expensive.
very wise advice about how to go about
It keeps it from looking like a competition or disapproval, and more about the longterm effects of treating a child over-the-top and how they might interpret that as they are "damaged." A+ advice!
She may be able to work her way up job-wise
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What a wise looking face.
I'm sorry about your husband's death.  You must both miss him very much.
Wise ol' soul

I really do, especially around this time of year. But, I ws lucky to have him as long as i did.


And, Silver has always been a wise ol' soul. He is a great comfort. But, unfortunately Silver has cancer and is getting really thin.  So, I think he will be with my husband before too long.


That picture was taken a few years ago.


 


I like those words - very very wise
Going to remember that one.
What would you do - survival wise
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Wow, ya'll are so wise -- thanks

Appreciate any comments/advice.  Keep it up!  Thanks a lot.


Age wise, I am 10 years
older than DH.
You are wise and a very good person (sm)
Your daughter and granddaughter are very lucky to have you, especially your granddaughter.

Everything you said is true.

The best thing I ever did for my kids after divorce was never to say an unkind word about their father, never put them in the middle, and the parade of frogs was a definite no-no!

Your advice was excellent. You SHOULD write a book!! As many divorces as there are any more, you would think this issue would have more emphasis in some form of media.
Personality wise? I am probably most like Blanche! LOL
x
your grandmother=wise woman..saying comes from

Woman


was made from the rib of man, she was not created from his head-to top him, nor from his feet-to be stepped upon.


She was made from his side, to be equal to him; from beneath his arm-to be protected by him; near his heart-to be loved by him.


From The Talmud


Wise words, I second the rec. for the above post
Excellent points all.
I think that is a wise choice. So glad
you brought dad into this! It is just too much for one - I know because I was the only one.
Please forgive the double post. Wise NM
x
You sound like a very wise person and I a glad to that
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LOL- she sounds wise beyond her years. She's lucky to have you. nm
xx
A wise 1st grade teacher told us...
"If you won't believe that I was mean to your kids, I won't believe that you had dog food for dinner last night."
Wise words, bright side....
I had a mini-meltdown several months ago when the work pretty much dried up for awhile. My SO was so very supportive and reminded me that no matter what happened, even if we ended up living in a cardboard box, we would have each other and no one could take that away from us.

I'd always been extremely strong and independent before I met him, and would struggle through things alone and silently, always hiding behind the "everything is just fine" facade to everyone I knew.

It's so nice to have someone to love and trust and turn to for support when things get rough.

Knowing that someone is waiting right there to catch you if you start to fall off the edge is something no amount of money can buy.

Hang in there, backwardstypist...Things will work out for you and your DH.
what a wise, insightful and compassionate comment.
I wish you all the best and that you come out as a winner because you deserve it.
Percentage-wise, shoplifting is a more likely source of
I was horrified, what - a year ago? - to watch an episode of Oprah where three teenage girls AND THEIR MOTHERS were guests saying in front of God and the world that the girls engage in oral sex, how common it was, etc.

There was some point in this country when we decided that "shame" was bad (the oxymoronic suggestion being that we should be ashamed of shame!) - and nothing good has come out of this ridiculous 'progressive humanist' idea or its twin - the notion that outcomes should be the same for everyone regardless of their ability or effort.

Let's get the notion of shame back on stage - front and center. There ARE things that humans do that SHOULD make them feel shame and guilt. When we lose our ability to experience guilt, we have...let's see now, what do we have again? Oh yes, now I remember - we have Bernie Madoff and his $50 billion scam, television you can no longer watch with your children, teachers seducing their students, and a whole lot of other very unpleasant consequences.
Your aunt is a wise woman, and she is a strong person
for being a Pastor's wife. For some reason, Pastors seem to be the most difficult to understand about how to be sensitive to people, when it is their job to do so. No offense to pastors and to my husband. But when I loved him best when he delivered pizza and Sunday mornings I still feel put off. And those are the mornings I am probably the most up in arms about this control issue. I dont think that is what the Bible meant either. Thanks for your comment. Your aunt also sounds like she was a great example to women and men alike as the pastor's wife. :)
A wise old sage said: Beans, beans, are good for the heart ....
(you know the rest!) :)
Normally, this would be something I would try to stay out of, but (sm)
I would think if you called CPS and explained things just the way you did here, they might be able to do something to keep the aunt away, and parenting classes for the parents wouldn't hurt either.  I agree with the other poster who said if parents (or you) act first, anything the aunt did at a later time would be considered retaliation.  Handicapped parents many times can be the best parents, but it sounds like they do need some help with setting boundaries.
I think I would stay put if I were you. He knows where the
door is and can use it if he chooses.  Your first concern has to be your children and you should not have to find a place to live if he is the one who has the problem with you.  If there is no adultery involved here, don't rush into divorce.  Divorce is painful and can get nasty.  Sometimes just being away from each other can "calm the waters" and allow you to make a more objective decision. I speak from experience.  My husband and I divorced very hastily when we were very young after less than 2 years of marriage and then remarried, had 2 children, divorced very hastily again and then remarried again.  Had I just been a little less in a hurry I could have saved myself a hiney-load of money and a lot of heartache by just being away for a while and then making an objective decision.  Instead, I rushed into divorce and paid dearly. 
Stay away from CC....
If you have been having problems meeting the minimum payment on any CC, by all means don't go opening another credit card. Your credit report will be an absolute mess. I know it's 0% interest for one year, but read the fine print - there is usually a fee of some type, plus, can you pay it off in one year before the interest starts up? You never know what will happen in life and you may not be able to make the payments, the rate goes up, and you are in deep doo-doo.

Sallie Mae is high interest, your 401K is better. With 401K you are paying yourself back with interest. It's a no-brainer. No one gets your money but you. Is it possible to borrow again from a 401K if you already have a loan out? Having the money deducted automatically from your paycheck and put back into your 401K is the safest and smartest bet...as long as you have a job.

If you ABSOLUTELY have to have this other loan for $7,000 then the 401K should be your only choice. Can you do without the $7,000 and get back on track before getting deeper into debt - or at least until you pay off the existing credit card?

Why would you want to stay...
with someone who is, as you say, mean? If you are not happy, LEAVE! When you stay you are condoning his behavior. Some women want to be martyrs, others want to live a great life. There are great men out there; wallowing in self-pity does not get you one though.
Well, obviously we don't want to stay
somewhere where there's still a lot of damage. That's why I'm asking for personal experiences, and hopefully recently. We don't want to book a beach house and when we get there find out it's in the middle of a big mess.
stay vs go
First, I am so sorry for your situation...that being said, the kids will definitely pick up on the negative vibes between you and your husband. As far as your question goes, I think only you and your husband can know the answer to that one. Just be very aware of your kids and behavior changes, emotional lability, etc. Trust me when I say, they are not dumb...they will pick up on what's going on, no matter how hard you try to hide it (yes, I'm speaking from experience...). Good luck!
You definitely need to stay on top of this...
The kids who you think are least likely to commit suicide are the ones that actually do...that is not meant to scare you by any means...most kids find it easier to write down their feelings than actually expressing them face to face so the fact that he wrote this means something is bothering him...I think you should both talk to your pastor..good luck...(((HUGS)))...
I think you should just stay out of it.
It is just humiliating for kids when their parents act up or cause a scene.

The name of the game is fun. Your going into the game wanting your son's team to beat the other team because of YOUR issues with another parent is very immature and selfish.

Trust me, we've watched parents like you've described yourself (and others, in fairness) acting out and it is so unsportsman-like and completely immature.

Embarrassing for everyone.
To Done: STAY !
No husband is perfect, we are all human. Your husband has a lot of good qualities. Think of your children! I think you are spoiled and unthankful. Maybe he is right and is better than you. He loves you, why don't you; I think you are just bored.

If I don't have anywhere to go, I stay

in my jammies.  I usually get up and take the kids to school in jeans and my jammy shirt.  Then come home and put the jammy pants back on.  If I don't have anywhere to go, I don't get dressed until mid afternoon when I break for lunch.  I usually put something in the oven and hop in the shower.  Sometimes I just put clean jammies on, sometimes I get fully dressed.  Either way, my contacts go in and my hair gets done.  My husband likes me either way, as long as I'm clean.  I find I wear my jammies more in the winter and am more likely to get dressed in the summer, probably because kids are always coming and going in the summer.


At any rate, I tend to be more productive when I'm dressed, so I should probably try to do that every morning, but I'm just not a morning person.  Every year for Christmas, my mom gets me "work clothes" (jammies)!!!


Where we stay in NYC.
We stay at the Embassy Suites on North End Avenue right in the financial district.  It is walking distance to to the Village, China Town, Mulberry Street, etc.  It overlooks the Harbor and you can see the all the helicopters coming in and out.  My husband always goes to Battery Park to watch the helicopters.  It is not too inexpensive, but you do get free breakfast and there is a happy hour at 5:00 p.m. if you like to have a few drinks, which will really cost you in the city.  There is also a fantastic deli 1 block away that we always hit for a late night snack.  We go at least once per year, sometimes twice or 3 times.  We love it.
You really have to stay on top of the cards
I do a lot of card flipping with balance transfers but also calling and trying to negotiate new deals. I just switched one with a balance transfer at 3.9 for the life of balance and then talked them down to a purchase rate of 8.9 (it had been up in the high teens). I also talked a card I've had a while into a 2.9 for the life of a balance transfer instead of the 12 month offer they were having because there was a delay in the electronic transfer to the other company causing me a bit of inconvenience. That transfer was actually for a loan I had at a pretty high interest rate, so some loans can be put on cards too which I never knew. I find websites that list ALL the latest offers for all or most card companies and I'm always checking. Sometimes I call my cards and tell them I am thinking about switching unless they can give me a similar/better rate or deal. Often they will so as not to lose the business. I have saved a ton of money doing this - it is sort of like consolidating on your own. I can post the site if anyone is interested, don't have it handy right now. Oh..I also have automatic electronic payment setup to pay a certain amount each month from my checking so the payment is NEVER late. You are so right about that, that's where they get you! I just thought maybe some of this info may help someone, I hope so. My credit is very good now but had been a mess in the past.
Remind me to stay
away from that doctor!!!
Did he marry her so he could stay in the U.S.? nm
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I go there frequently and would not stay in
the Flamingo. It is right downtown but a very old place, the smoke when you go into the casino is terrible, not as classy as I like. It might be cheap but then you get what you pay for. I love the Mirage, stayed at Treasure Island, very nice also, favorite though is the Bellagio, more expensive than most on the strip. Love the buffet at the Luxor. MGM might be alright and at the end of most of the strip but I would think ok as far as a place to stay.
To make it stay that way
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Also if you stay away you are letting him win(sm)
As that seems to be his goal -I would not let him keep me from seeing the rest of my family. However, I also would not want my children exposed to his mouth, so if you cannot stay in a hotel,I would go and visit without your children, which I do sometimes as well. I see my family about twice a year, usually once by myself and once with the kids, at which time we stay in a hotel.
Need help with a dog that will NOT stay off furniture (sm)
We have a black lab in the house - had him since he was a puppy.  He was/is not allowed to be on the couch and other furniture but....he considers it a challenge.  If I am in my office, he will get on the couch and jumps down as soon as he hears me walking into the family room.  I don't know how to make him stay off.  He is a very smart dog and we challenge him in other ways with training.  One of my kids will be home for the holidays and has allergies.  The dog hair on everything is getting to me real quick!  He is 2 years old now.  Forget the dog bed - he looks at it and laughs!!   
Can help you on this, we stay at the Bellagio
and hear that is higher up on the scale of rates.
Do NOT stay just because of the age of your kids.
Being unhappy does affect your kids, whether you are abused or not.
3 yrs and 3 months. Stay over every other
xx
I'd try to stay calm, but (sm)
One thing I told my now-husband years ago was that I had to have honesty enough to know if he needed something from me that I was not giving, that he was not to go looking elsewhere for something without asking for it at home.

In this day and age, with STDs being they are, there is no excuse for adultery. It's not just thoughtless and hurtful, it's irresponsible with someone's life.

As far as being calm, I'm just not sure temper or tears works in a situation like that. I think many men "turn you off" when you get in that situation and nothing gets heard or accomplished, and something needs to get resolved with you guys PDQ.
Stay together for the children - yes or no? (sm)
Husband and I have been on the verge of divorce for years, trying to stay for kids.  But now we can't seem to stop arguing for more than a week at a time.  He is including me in none of the decision making and acts as though we are already divorced. I am worried about the effects divorce would have on my children, emotionally, financially.  But part of me is ready to just plunge into the unknown. I almost feel like I don't have a choice.  Would appreciate opinions and viewpoints either way.
me either. I'll stay right where i am!
xx
Stay away from Effexor --- Run from it!!!

A little background history:  I am married and had just had my third child 6 months before this.  I was juggling 1 PT office job, 1 PT MT job at home, and 1 per diem job in a clinic 2-3 days a week.  I felt overwhelmed dealing with my 3 jobs and my 3 kids, then ages 5, 2-1/2 and 6 months.  I went to my doctor and told her about my stress and the mood swings especially during my period.


I was started on Effexor 5 years ago this month.  At first, I was kind of afraid of it and didn't really notice any difference with it.  After taking it a week or 2, I decided to stop.  I just quit taking it cold turkey.  About 24 hours after my last dose, the problems started.  First the awful headache came and then the lightheadedness and vomiting.  I immediately took one and lied down for the rest of the evening.  I decided I would just stay on them until my next doctor's visit.  Several months later, when I saw my doctor again, she asked how it was going and I said fine.  I decided to stay on them, thinking I needed them.


After a couple of years of being on Effexor, I began to notice breakouts of acne on my face.  I'm not talking a few pimples around my period; I mean serious almost bullous-like breakouts on my face continuously.  Now I had never had acne in high school or after that until now.  I also gained about 50 pounds, probably partly my fault, but a lot of blogs I read also noted this.  But most concerning were the "brain tingles" I felt at odd times.  At any rate, after 5 years of being on it, I was ready to stop.  I began to realize that my problems couldn't be solved by a pill and that I needed to change myself and the way I dealt with stress (I'm not suggesting that's what you need to do).


Remembering the problem I had initially when I tried to stop the Effexor, I scheduled a visit with my doctor.  She gave me a taper and I started it.  At first, I was okay -- just taking it once a day every 2 days and then skipping a day.  But when I was supposed to take it just every other day, I noticed the same problems - headaches, lightheadedness, nausea, vomiting.  I called my doctor back and she suggested a slower taper again.  We tried with no success.  After much research on the internet, I asked my doctor to prescribe a single dose of Prozac to counteract the withdrawal effects.  After a lot of discussion, she agreed to do so. 


I took my last Effexor on December 18, 2007, and I will never, ever, ever take that medication again.  I also will never take another medication without fully knowing the side effects as well as the withdrawal process of it.  I strongly urge you to research any drug your doctor prescribes fully before beginning it.  I wish I had.  I only hope there are no long-term side effects of Effexor that have yet to be unveiled. 


I can stay up as late as I want to - I go to bed between around 1:30 a.m.
I hated going to be early when I was little. Now 40 years later I'm rebelling.
Don't stay angry, instead get EVEN.
been there, done that. no need to be in a hurry, either. if you take months or even years to get even, you have just that much more time to come up with something truly memorable.

or, you can do something swift and simple, like blocking their emails on your pc as spam.