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Just read where a 42-year-old woman was mauled and killed by her own 2 pit bulls sm

Posted By: me on 2007-10-04
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in FL near Jacksonville. Then the dogs turned on her son  who was also bit in the throat but luckily will survive.  Then the dogs turned on the sherrif's dept before they were both shot and killed. THANK GOD. I hate these dogs. I'm sorry. When my brother was walking home from fishing years ago pits attacked him and he's never been the same. Thankfully he survived.  When you go to the FL news website you see tons of pit bull owners sticking up for this breed and saying how they are great dogs. if they are so great why are they banned in multiple counties across the nation? No other type of dog is banned? Neighbors, cousins all say that she was a very loving owner who even slept with the dogs. No neglect, nothing. There were people saying that they leave their pits alone with their young children, as young as 3 years old! How ignorant can you be?


Tons of FL residents are calling of the extinction of this breed and I think that's a great idea.  You cannot trust a pit bull PERIOD.  There is something in their brains that can TICK at any time - this was quoted by a vet who specializes in dog care.  So tell me, why do people take chances with this kind of dog? I'm so angry right now!!!!!!




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Pit Bulls, please read this!
I love dogs, and I don't really have an opinion about pits, because I never owned one. But, please everyone, read what happened in my town a few days ago. This lady was mauled by hers. Its at Greensburgdailynews.com. I was so scared after reading the details of this, and wonder what made him do this unspeakable thing!!
I read about a 6yo that killed his classmate
I know this doesn't pertain to you because some kid killed his father after he saw his father committing violence, but I just thought this was interesting article. It's called Why little kids kill. I just cannot fatham anyone at 6 years old doing that. What happened to young innocense....

If I were you and the family seems non-challant I would definitely talk to a police officer and state your concerns. Especially in today's day and age - nothing surprises me.

http://life.familyeducation.com/early-learning/violence/36442.html


55-year old woman has birthday sex with 12-year old

DAYTON - Gloria Murphy gave children celebrating her 55th birthday alcohol and then had sex with a 12-year-old boy at the party on Thursday, Jan. 29, according to police.


The boy got into Murphy’s bed at 5440 Rawlings Drive, where the married woman had sex with her adolescent neighbor, according to police and Montgomery County prosecutors. 


Two of the children at the party ran home at about 6 a.m. Jan. 30 and told a parent they saw the boy and woman having sex, according to 911 audio.


The parent then called police at about 6:15 a.m., according to a police report and 911 audio.


Murphy did not force the boy to have sex, but since he is younger than 13, it is considered rape, Lt. Patrick Welsh said. No other children were involved in the sexual encounter, but some other children at the party consumed alcohol, according to police.


what does a 15 year old boy read sm
I need to buy a book for a 15 year old boy .  I took the tagged off our tree at church.   My 18 year daughter suggested Catcher in the Rye (her favorite) .  Do you have any suggestions?
My 14-year-old son loves to read too...his SM

favorites are:


Harry Potter series


Eragon series


Lord of the Ring series


Chronicles of Narnia


Series of Unfortunate Events


Alex Rider series


Left Behind Series


...there are many other series, but I can't think of them off the top of my head.


Chickadee


Let's get to know pit bulls...sm
A lot of people on here I am sure do not own a pit bull. It is hard to know the breed when you aren't around them on a day to day basis. I would just like to share some traits of pit bulls.

Pits are robust. They are active and love to play. They are a smart breed of dog too. I guess you could say they are roughnecks. They will do anything to please their owners and want to be a big ole lap dog. Oh yeah they will and mine does (all 70 pounds) climb up in your lap wanting to be nurtured. LOL.

If I had to describe their personality I would say first of all contrary to all the media hype and hysteria of pits, the dogfighting community (by the way I do not condone dogfighting) did not breed pit bulls to be human aggressive. They wanted a dog they could work with in the fighting arena and not have to worry about these dogs attacking them or other people watching this sport. (which is unscrupulous but just trying to explain this is how they were bred). A lot of pit bulls are so happy on meeting owners friends they don't even know; that some people who get them worry they won't make a good guard dog because some happily greet strangers. The protective instinct a pit has usually won't surface until they are about a year old. I would say they want to be the center of attention. They are very self confident dogs.

I have to say pits can be funny. One reason is pits have some of the most expressive faces.

Sometimes though you may have a perfectly nice pup which will grow up to be mean because he was encouraged to be mean. Raised to be mean.

If pit bulls could choose their owners instead of the other way around then I would say a pit would choose an owner with high spirits and a joy of living. Good owners of pits are able to handle their dogs.

A pits character traits seem to be contradictory in that they are strong but sensitive; rowdy but gentle; outgoing but devoted; easily fired up but highly trainable; mischevious but sensible; energetic yet serene; peaceful but always alert. All these describe the pit bull.
How do you feel about pit bulls?
A year ago we adopted this amazingly sweet puppy from an animal rescue. Was told he was a golden retriever mix, they thought with Aussie. As he grew we just did not see the Aussie and in trying to figure out his breed, through the vet and some research found out is part pit. He is a lovely, sweet, gentle dog.

Here is the problem. Ohio has strict restrictions regarding pits; you have to carry extra liability, fenced yard, keep them in a pen, etc. Any incidents and the dog is destroyed. My dog is never outside unattended. If we aren't with him, he is tied. When loose we are always right there, and he listens well. He loves our cat and has never shown any aggression towards other people or animals. You should see him with kids and babies. Would melt your heart. My neighbor's Sheltie is meaner than my sweet baby, having bitten my kids several times, and they let him roam loose.

Now a representative Yates in Ohio is proposing a bill that all pit bulls or those suspected of being pit bulls be taken and euthanized. If this bill passes, the dog warden would have the right to issue a warrant and come and take your dog if it is suspected of being a pit. You can read about the law here:

http://www.animallawcoalition.com/breed-bans/article/524

Breed specific legislation is so amazingly stupid and closed minded. Any dog is capable of being vicious, it is just a matter of responsible ownership.
Unfortunately, pit bulls, dobermans
and german sheps have bad reputations but you must remember that it is not the dog itself who is bad - the owners make the dog that way. I have always owned dobermans and german sheps who were the sweetest dogs and got along with kids well. I never cropped my dobemans ears or tail and all dogs went to obedience school. It's a shame that these dogs have bad reputations just because of irresponsible owners. I equate it to children...you treat them bad and they will live up to that reputation.
abused pit bulls

Again I refer to the web site I have posted which gives statistics regarding pit bull ownership by criminals.  I don't think it would be a leap of logic to suggest that if they are the #1 most abused dogs, it is because they are the #1 breed of dog owned by criminals.  Of course I am not suggesting that you or blondie are criminals, but I would hope that you could at least admit that a large percentage of pit bulls are owned by those involved in drugs and other crimes, with the purpose of attacking and/or intimidating  others in their criminal circle. 


There are countless other breeds capable of providing the same companionship and loyalty and unconditional love as a pit bull, but without the strength and aggression to kill human beings. 


Did you read on the web site about the 24-year-old woman who was killed in her own bed by her 2 pit bulls she had raised since puppyhood?  Nobody knows what happened, but these were her two babies, and yet then turned on her and killed her.  It is believed that she could have had a seizure, as she was epileptic.  Why would a dog perceive their master lying in bed having a seizure (if indeed that is what happened) as a threat, and why would they kill her?  What set them off?  Ask yourself THAT question. 


If pit bulls were the only loyal dog or the only loving dog available to own, I could maybe understand the risk all you owners are taking.  But that is just not the case.  There are so many other breeds with which you can form that same bond, without the terrible risks.


Pit bulls are very prone to allergies.
From a little research I did, have you tried a high quality lamb kibble yet? That's what most of the sites are recommending for pit bulls. This is one site, but it is down at the bottom of the page.

http://www.mprgroup.net/recommendations2.html

There are other antihistamines that are used for dogs besides Benadryl (never use one with a decongestant, of course). Tavist is one I've used. You may find a 12-hour or 24-hour one more beneficial, but do check with your vet for dosing. We actually got an air cleaner for Misha at one point, though her problems didn't turn out to be allergies.
We have a city ordinance about pit bulls
You have to provide proof of $100,000 insurance to have it; it cannot roam free; and anyone has the right to kill it if they feel they are under attack. If your pit is found running free, it is put down.

Pits do not have to be used for fighting to be aggressive. It is part of their nature - far more aggressive than other dogs.

Yes, I've had plenty of up close and personal experiences with pits that were friendly but that has nothing to do with their underlying aggressive nature.

Dangerous animal.
I had only heard negative about pit bulls
until I heard Rachael Ray talk about hers. With a personality like hers how can she have a bad dog? I do have a new respect for them now, but I agree that I would want to do some research on their "family". I personally prefer tiny little dogs that don't shed. Do pit bulls shed? I posted below that we had a boxer and the shedding was unbelievable but that is not the reason we no longer have her.
I don't know, this post down below has me thinking. What are your thoughts, woman to woman. sm
If your spouse came to you and said he was having an affair, would you be more upset if it was with a male or female? For me, definitely a female!  If it were male then I would think that it had absolutely nothing to do with me and everything to do with him. I would be devastated if he were with another woman. Another poster below said she would be more upset if he were found with a male.  What about you?
it just about killed me ;)
actually I just ran out of $. Keep it up - it is a fantastic way to exercise. Be careful not to let the instructor/yoursel push you too hard.
I almost killed my cat with tunafish!

Go figure that one out!  He was a Maine Coon cat...just HUGE with a huge appetite and I ran out of food, so I grabbed a can of tuna until I could get to the store.  That night I woke up to SCREAMING like I have never heard an animal scream before and his whole body was spasming.  Oh it was the most horrible thing I had ever witnessed!  I called an emergency vet clinic who took him in right away.  He had a complete blockage of his urethra and couldn't pee...he was a heartbeat away from blowing his bladder and dying.  They had to catheterize him and the bag was full of bloody urine and he spent 3 days in the hospital.  I was a wreck but he was ultimately fine.  Holy crap did that vet bill nearly cripple me!  ICU for a cat...why oh why do I keep on with these friggin' animals?! 


You never know what will cause something to go wrong with these things.  Never blame yourself...ever.  We are all doing the best we can with what we have.



I once had a dream that my dog got killed - sm
and a week later to the day, she did. And it happened exactly like in my dream.
not the ones who end up being killed or prostitutes - sm
no, they don't always come back, there would be no missing persons if that was the case.
Yes, she most definitely killed her...I have no doubts...
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If her dogs killed my cats
I would probably just tar and feather her, that seems like a good remedy for me.
Yesterday's headlines killed me.
"Dr. Melfi quits treating Tony Soprano to start treating Paris Hilton!"

Too funny.

She said on The View that "Paris called and needed me so I had to make all my time available for Paris and her family!"

How not to get killed?!?!?! How about leave the idi0t!!!
I am very independent and I don't care if I have to go get a one bedroom apartment so my two small kids and I can have a place to go. I would not live in fear of my life over anything! I would figure it all out once I got a restraining order and filed a divorce! Wow, I could say a lot, but I am going to keep my comments to myself. That is what I would do. You asked for advice, there you have it!
My youngest step son was killed ........ sm
in a motorcycle accident and was almost decapitated. The mortician did a very good job with him, but there was still some evidence of the trauma he suffered. His mother chose to have an open casket because I doubt she could have dealt with it any other way. It was a very hard funeral, and hard for me as I had not seen him in quite some time and it was hard seeing him lying in a casket, but I think, hard as it was, it did help bring closure for me and for his family. I think it is a very personal decision that only the family can make at a time like this.
Kinda like asking if OJ killed Nicole or not NM
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Or they want to raise them so they can be killed in a senseless war!!
Not that I think it is good to kill fetuses either ... but why don't these people see their lack of logic!

And as far as the stem cells and embryos ... why don't they fight to stop allowing people to fertilize and freeze them to begin with (or more than they will surely use)?!!
nah -- we killed too many brain cells

snorting the crack OUR parents didn't teach us about!


Geesh -- why always so quick to blame the parents?  This kid is 14 years old and knew better than to do this.  She chose to do it anyway, just like so many others before her time chose to get up knocked up, strung out on drugs, become an alcoholic, etc. 


Yes, the kid screwed up, but that's what kids do.  Didn't you ever have a friend who stole a car in high school or got caught cheating and ended up expelled?  It's not the end of the world, but spreading it all over the media could very well push this kid over the edge and cause her to hurt herself.  She obviously is looking for attention or affection.  This is certainly not going to help her.


Her name was Meredith Emerson, and it was just last January that she was killed.
I know the story very well, and even hiked in memory of her a few weeks after she was killed. Her murder caused great grief along the entire 2100+ miles of the trail, and all of us who love the trail know full well what can happen out there.

The trail community is very difficult to explain to people who haven't experienced it. Yes, people have been killed on the Appalachian Trail, probably about a dozen or so in the over 70 years that the trail has been open. Given the thousands who walk all or part of the trail each year, it is statistically safer on the trail than in "civilization". You are correct, however, that hikers are more in danger than the people who pick them up. The most dangerous places on the trail are at the trailheads and near roads where people pretend to help hikers and then do harm. That is why I pick up hikers, because they are more afraid of me than I am of them. Also, there's quite a bit of communication that goes up and down the trail, and we do keep track of people as they travel. It's very likely that when I pick someone up near the trail, I've heard about their trip. In hiker slang, people who help hikers are called trail angels. It's a different situation. It's not 100% safe, but I choose not to cower at home. I hike the A.T. and other trails, usually with friends, sometimes alone. I tell my family, that if harm should come to me, either through accident or evil, they should remember that I go into the woods because I love it, and should I die there, they should remember that I loved it too much to stay away.

The Appalachian Trail is not the lawless, dangerous passageway that so many people think it is. More times than I can count, I've been asked about the dangers of the trail. Usually I just shrug and smile. It's not worth the argument, because I can't change the minds of people who don't know. On the other hand, I don't want to change minds. If I did, there'd be traffic jams on the trail, and it wouldn't be fun anymore.
Women with restraining orders are killed by their abuser
Don't get a false sense of security. There have been good advances in the past 20 years but it's still a man's world.

Stay in contact with your friends and family and make sure to give a few of them a code word. Something like the sky is blue or I really want chinese food and they will know to call the police if you are in trouble. Do what you need to do to protect yourself. Do not count on the police. I was attacked in my home 2 hours after leaving the courthouse. I even called 911 when I got home because I was scared. They were on their way but he got there faster.
I was young and nieve and had a newborn I was thinking about. I wish someone would have told me not to go home. Please don't be nieve like I was and trust the system and that piece of paper. It's hard to imagine your home isn't safe or that someone is going to be 100x more aggressive then you have ever seen them be.
I would move and change your numbers and make sure if you work outside your home you alert EVERYONE including the receptionist and your boss/manager and security.
If she doesn't care about the fact that her dog killed your 2 cats
I don't understand why you are so afraid of offending her??!!! I don't know how much time has passed, but I would have been rip roaring FURIOUS at her, SIL or not, that she allowed her dog to do that not once but twice. She sounds pretty self-centered and uncaring to me.
UNC Student Killed, now WBC protestors plan to picket
I live in NC and the news of the murdered student body president (out of respect will not list her name here) has upset all of us in this area, of all religions and non-religious as well.  The WBC is a radical group calling themselves "Christians" who plan to protest at UNC during the memorial service for this beloved young woman.  The group is listed as a "hate group" but call themselves Christians and wear shirts and bear signs saying "God hates you" and God hates colleges, etc.  Their website proclaims "thank God another college student is dead."  This is so horrible and unspeakable.  For those who are not Christian, please do not believe for one moment that this represents common Christian viewpoints.  It definitely does not. The vast majority of Christians are horrified at what these people believe and proclaim. 
woman to woman talk sm

This has nothing to do with being a christian, it has more to do with group dynamics. I have to deal with it all the time with 6 women in an in-law situation. They are narrow-minded Bible-thumping bigots.I happen to be of another "denomination" and I do attend every function of theirs, weddings, funerals, all of it, receive their communion. I have had my parents die, lost my younger sister and many things happen where they could have reciprocated, yet they will not "step foot" in my church. So where is all their faith, they certainly are not practicing the do unto others. I can relate, it is a horrible way to live. Thank God, I had psychology courses and know about group dynamics, I am in the middle of a herd mentality. I could go on forever, they even have "interventions" when someone in their family wants to marry or date someone not from their denomination. They are awful. I know your pain! It's not your imagination, they hide behind their cohesive "numbers game," one speaks and all the others agree in unison. No one has a chance against this mob. It's tough to be your own person, lots of tears. And guys think it's all in our heads - NOT!  Hang in, perhaps you'll have a Divine Intervention somehow.


 


 


 


 


 


 


Kangaroo. cat woman or wonder woman?
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you got mighty lucky because boric acid is poisonous and could have killed them
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Obviously you've never had a family member killed by a drunk driver.
Long ago? Time has nothing to do with it. The man has an alcohol problem and left the scene of a homicide. Sounds like you're ok with that. I'm not. It speaks volumes about his character.
I disagree. Women have gotten killed by not moving or changing their phone numbers.
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Young lady killed here in Georgia, Appalachian trail hiker
and she was enjoying going out about 2 years ago, killed on a mountain here by man posing as hiker. She was a young, vibrant lady in her 20s, he was in his 60s. I think I am getting this right when I say he used her police baton she carried for protection, wrestled it away from her and killed her with it. Is not the trail you hike on known for lot of crimes? This murder happened on that same trail where you give rides to strangers. This man was well known to other hikers there as he hung out on the trail lots of times.
Bigger issue - a 16 year old living withi a 29 year old and liability
Are you still not responsible for him until he is 18, how can he tell you where he will live?  Unless he emancipates himself and he does something wrong, can they go against you since you are his mother and legally responsible for him?  I worry more about him living with a 29 year old sister rather than returning a house key to me that is a bigger issue.
My 14-year-old is going to be a mother-in-law (so funny) if you google it and 11-year-old daughter
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Won $2,000 on slot machine on New Year's Eve. What a way to start the year. nm
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Set my budget a year in advance, save all year and
nm
If I don't read before I go to sleep I can't fall asleep. I will read sm
until I begin to fall asleep. They say reading relaxes you fully and it works wonders for me.

I used to suffer from insomnia, but not since I've been doing this - about 5 years now.

Plus, I've grown so much and have gained wisdom by doing so. I enjoy Christian books and reading the Bible.
What a difference a year makes! Last year, sm
we had the same problem.  Fines everywhere for watering.
Paid $60,000 on principal last year and this year
planning on another $30,000 after my taxes paid for the year. We are getting our house paid down very quickly.
A 17-year-old would have the same goals as a 20 year old (sm)
Only the 20 year old is hopefully more responsible and based on what you say about his character, would be a better choice than someone her own age.
I have a 9-year-old son that sounds just like your 10 year old...
Lately he has been so negative about everything...trying to make him have a good summer and whenever I take him somewhere, he is just a brat when we get home...I think they are called tweens at this age...not quite teenagers but have the attitude like one---LOL
We skipped it entirely last year, and THIS year?

This 40-year-old got dumped for a 30-year-old
http://www.gqmagazine.co.uk/CoolNewStuff/Photos.aspx?StoryID=53859
This year will be our 35th year
The first couple years it was literally 5 or 6 times a day every day (more on the weekends). Over time it gradually slowed down (once a day) and over the past few years its been 2 or 3 times a week. Not sure that is average or not. There were times were I felt it was too much and him not enough, then there were times where I wanted it more and he didn't. Guess everyone goes through a phase. I guess because of how long we've been together, now it's just comfortable - nothing exciting about it. Just a routine. I have to make it exciting in my mind and pretend I'm someone else.

I don't know what it is, but you are correct...after awhile the lust and infatuation wears off and you get in a routine. I guess for us it was that we really didn't know each other when we married (we dated for 3 weeks then eloped). Once I got to know him it was too late. Now 35 years later it is just comfort (and amazingly we never once used birth control and never had any kids). My mom still tells me she's amazed at the frequency of our encounters that not even once did I even have a "close call" with getting pregnant.

But 35 years once or twice a week and 3 or 4 times on weekends. Not sure if that is normal.
No, definitely not -- if this had been a woman - sm
asking you the same question would you have thought twice about it? He was a rep of the store asking if you found what you were looking for, since it happened to be a bra, I think he phrased it correctly, but then again he did not take into account a person who would take a question the wrong way. He has learned the hard way never to question a lady about her underwear that is for sure. You need to learn to let things roll off your back. If he had leered at you and said, hey lady you find a bra for those nice **** of yours, then yeah, that would be harrassment and not good customer service. Learn to chill some and not worry so much.
I know of a woman who actually did this
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what do you get for the woman who has everything?...sm

Spend some time together.


Give each little young lady a handmade card/voucher that she can cash in to spend time with you one-on-one, whether it be at the hair salon, lunch, walking in the park, just doing regular shopping stuff, going to a play or just sitting, talking, having a cup of tea and looking through family albums....It's the special time that'll be cherished. 


Oh, and 50-ish is not old.....I know 70 to 85-yo young ladies who can run circles around me with their enthusiasm, drive, ambition and joy for life.   Cat 


   


did you NOT see that 95 y/o woman who

graduated college last year?  She was all over the news, GOD BLESS HER!!  Had all her wits about her......just old looking is all....


Education doesn't stop until we die - so by all means 40+ is still young in that many change career directions many times in ones' life...